Oh hey wingidon. I was the Flowergirl that game, who was ET'ed. Evils got absolutely stomped that game LOL. There was a Clockmaker 5, a seamstress AND a good harlot. Evils had no chance

You probably dont give a shit but if you're bored like me during the covid times then you can stream all the latest movies and series on InstaFlixxer. Have been binge watching with my brother for the last couple of weeks =)

@Darius Ricky Yup, I have been watching on instaflixxer for months myself =)

What should you do in that situation if you're the storyteller? He's already dead, and even if you can execute a dead player (can you?), doing so would have ended the day and let evil win (thereby rewarding him for breaking the rules). I don't see how you could have punished him for not being mad in that situation, but letting him get away with it feels wrong.

@@fatstingray He didn't break any rules. You don't have to be mad about anything, ever. You choose whether or not to engage with the mechanic, and the storyteller chooses whether or not to enforce the potential consequences. With regards to whether or not dead players can get executed. Yes, they absolutely can. in fact, sometimes it's a necessity (see the Zombuul in Bad Moon Rising).

Makes sense. I guess “breaking the rules,” wasn’t the right way to put it. It still feels like a loophole to me, though. Seems kind of not in the spirit of “madness” (I state confidently despite having no experience or idea what I’m talking about). It seems the reason a storyteller wouldn’t give consequences in that situation is just because they can’t. Backing the storyteller into a corner where any possible consequences given would decide the game, and the storyteller shouldn’t be deciding the game. It’s not an active decision to make the game more interesting, it’s a forced decision made because there’s no other choice besides ruining the game significantly. “Getting away with it based on a technicality,” perhaps. I don’t know, maybe I’m just spouting a bunch of bologna, all I know is that it doesn’t sit well with me/doesn’t feel quite right. Not a big deal, the end result would have probably been the same either way and the players enjoyed it (which is what matters), but I think it would bug me if I was the storyteller in a similar situation.

@@fatstingray I get you. But the thing to keep in mind is that breaking madness and not being executed comes with its own, arguably harsher, punishment. It makes you look like a liar. It erodes your legitimacy in a game where you absolutely need to be trusted, especially in the later stages. But perhaps the more relevant point is that Caley and Rich were effectively being punished by me not executing Rich for breaking madness. They tried to force an easy win with the Cerenovus' ability and I effectively decided that they'd squandered it by trying to cheese the game.

Yes but I don’t think it really mattered in the grand scheme of things. Linnet didn’t seem to know what was going on for most of the time anyway

The role the Pit-Hag chooses must be not-in-play for the player to turn into it. However, there wouldn't be much value turning a minion into an evil minion into a Klutz - if the Evil Klutz were to choose an evil player when they died, then the Evil Team would lose. You might want an Evil Klutz if a Fang Gu is getting set to jump to an Outsider and the Evil Klutz is a mostly believed player, however the evil team wouldn't get much value from the Klutz's ability. - Evin

@@BloodontheClocktower Ahh... there is a loss condition but no win condition. I've been watching BOTC vids for a year now, and still learning stuff. Fascinating game.

Same night he dies

@@alfonsoabraham2370 Thank you. I have got another one. If the Imp kills himself a minion is chosen by the storyteller to be the next Imp right? That minion loses its ability.

@@dhjtdfjz Correct, because it is no longer that minion. It is now The Imp.

@@bennburns nice thx

if you asked, 'Is there a vortox in play?' the answer would always be no, the better question is, 'Am I the Artist?'

Yes that is more direct but my question is: if there is a Vortox in game the answer at my question would be right. So you use a similar tactics as in Labyrinth the movie with the two dogs one lie the other jot

Good question but i think is notnpublic :( TTS is our only hope. It would be fun to have a phone app xD

I doubt I can link here so just type "Github Bra1n Blood on the Clocktower Town Square" into google. You'll find it :) (Ope, he must've posted that while I was still watching :P)

Board Game Rundown There is nothing preventing you from telling as many people as you want that you are mad. Nor should there be. Admitting to madness is basically just saying you value your information more than your life. If the ST doesn’t hear you, that shouldn’t be your fault. Otherwise no one would be allowed to have any conversations without the ST present. The whole point of the side conversations is to share any info you want without letting everyone know. That includes the ST.

@@GG-dt5hh That's a valid thought. But after the many many hours I have watched and researched the game I believe that every time this happens it ruins the experience that is happening inside the game. Saying that there is a rule in a game that you don't have to follow is just saying that there is no rule. I just also believe that the storyteller should know everything that is possible to know in the game. If someone wants to come out as mad to someone and then tell the storyteller that they did so, leaving everything up to them, then that seems fine to me. But to hide information regarding a rule from the person controlling the rules is in bad spirits to me.

@@BoardGameRundown Hi dude, Ben here, the guy running this game. We don't allow people to break madness when the Storyteller isn't around. Or, perhaps more accurately, if you do that, it still counts as breaking madness. Now, obviously, this relies on player honesty to some degree, and we have the pleasure of being able to pick from a pool of very mature and honest players for the stream. That's not to say that STs will run it that way. BOTC has the very D&D-esque pleasure of having different GMs with slightly different ways of doing things, but (and I'm sure you'll agree with me here) I'd advocate that all STs treat madness in the same way that we do. I can certainly assure you that no-one in this video (or indeed any of our streams) is breaking madness when the ST isn't around.

Hi, Ben. Loving the content and game. I remember a time on stream that someone said that they went up to town square really quick and told whoever was in there that they were mad before everyone else (including the ST) joined. Everyone had a laugh about it at the end of the game, so it doesn't really matter. You guys are all clearly good friends. I'm just saying I've seen things happen. More to the point though, I'm glad to see that in general it is frowned upon like I was thinking :)

@@BoardGameRundown Yeah, it definitely happened a lot more in early playtesting, before the general consensus developed that it was more fun to enforce it at all times.

And basically told Richie to barber swap. Handed evil the win on a platter. Not really fair to. The good team when they deduced it out correctly.