@Yugesh Patnaik those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it - Churchill (and a few others before)

@Yugesh Patnaik what do Ukrainians should understand?!! Conflict? This is the war against Ukraine and those bastards are not separatists, they are Russians and their collaborators! Give J&K to Pakistan, you, piss maker!

@@chingizsalla in this video Ukrainians are bombing separatist areas,killing people over 5000 died since 20014. these areas have wanted top be separate for a long time, and do not want to be part of kyiv they used to also be part of Russia and have been separate in the past, it's not some integral part of Ukraine, and Ukraine giving up this area is not an issue, they could do this and go on their way and beg junker to make the right decisions for their independent Ukraine, u literally just saw the truth of the situation and closed your eyes to it, these separatist areas should be recognized and when they became separate no one had died Ukraine however started shelling and killing

Yugesh Patnaik look how the russians are treating the "beother nation" now... they haven't learned anything, they still like authoritarianism and reflexively believe that they're the good guys and whoever the government says are bad are the bad guys.

@Yugesh Patnaik Tell it to terrorussian s.

Trying to appeal to people's commonsense is more like it. I doubt many Russians or Ukrainians actually watch VICE, not that they have something against the content, but there are many outlets that provide up-to-date coverage in their languages. Nope, Westerners are the majority on these videos, which is why 100% of the comments are in English.

thay get payd

конечно, и бабушкам заплатили, чтоб они поплакали на камеру. Кто будет помогать этим людям? Ответ. Никто....

Why you all talking about Russia? ДНР is not a Russia :D And tell me, who destroy this buildings? I like Vice news because its really news, not a fucking propaganda like a CNN,BBC, Russia today

Ден Манулов Pro-Russians and Separatists are almost the same thing.

compared to the trauma the locals were going through, his was nothing.

@@jambo308 emphasis on "compared to". He can't possibly experience what they're going through, he isn't two people, his suffering happened and was real, was it as bad as the man who's family was killed or the man who was ambushed? No, but getting beaten by a gang who you know can kill you is something, it's not nothing alone, it's only nothing if you compare it to the worst of the worst, there's no point! If that's how we thought about these things, then the only Ukrainian who could complain is the ukranian whos suffered the most.

@@GettinJiggyWithGenghis you're going into a war torn enviroment, with people living in it day to day, what happened to Simon for a week certainly isn't comparable to the daily life of a citizen and if you want to make it into a measurement contest feel free however the original comment was more directed toward the "Western journalist guest into 3rd world and media parades them as a hero when something wrong happens" critique, be more feely.

@@jambo308 what happened to the citizens isn't comparable to the people in hell, and that's why we don't compare traumas, it's totally useless.

@@GettinJiggyWithGenghis "it's totally useless" says the person debating in a youtube comment section with me.

now we know :(

@@nikolayew 😓

@@nikolayew Sloviansk making the headlines again today 03 July '22

So sad, How it has played out. Its the everyday people like this who die and suffer for the greed of the powerful.

I've watched Simon for some time without ever knowing about his abduction or this backstory My already high regard for Simon has increased substantially.

I was thinking what was she eating?!!! I hope there some kind people who can help her!!!

shes obviously a fighter being by herself for 30 years and can "take care of herself" but holy shit i am bawling my eyes out

The thousands of 18-25 year old that died, didn't?

Vlad B Yes but those guys wanted to go in a war the civilians didnt do nothing

Yes, but if they didn't, those people would of starved. Its only sad that there is a camera in her face? Click the "like" button few extra times for YOUR support.

And she was thankfull for wather 😢😢

agree

From your lips to God's ears. Unfortunately in a civil war the innocents are the first to die.

I too agree

ru really that ignorant! why do you think that lady needs to get around that rubble!

123rmillan I know it was the Ukrainian Army that shelled Sloviansk... But the Separatists used these poor people as meat shields...

That's there houses too you dumb ass. There citizens fighting for there freedom.

Orangeman51001 No the Ukrainian government toke an advantage and decided to bomb civilians. When there was ceasefire they were bombing the Russians. That's why the Russians were fighting back

***** these are 'culturally' Russians, most of them are citizens of Ukraine, with little exclusions for volunteers. Sadly Russia does not interfere, as formally its Ukrainian internal affair, and all Russia could do is wait, like USSR did in 1941, because otherwise Russia/USSR would be called an aggressor and could be treated accordingly. Actually nothing would happen if American owners of Ukrainian pseudoelite did not let them do what they are doing now. Its nonsense for any non African or South-Asian country nowadays, but it fucking happens in the middle of Europe, and everyone feels ok about it.

Салдат со свастикой . Вам нравится фашизм ?

Nobody listened

Correction: the overthrown government did not shoot the protesters. That's why they, you know, got overthrown. The current gov't DID turn a blind eye and had the police stand down/not intervene when protesters in Odessa were burned and gassed by yet-to-be-prosecuted far-right extremists. Neither is the current government open to any type of discussion about federalization. Just politics.

human151 or held a referendum, it worked for Crimea.

***** good job at regurgitating russian propaganda.

human151 wOOt

why i love vice. its incredible to see how many moronic people out there believe any other media than the one that shows you true pictures, without any context or a conspiracy, it just shows you what's happening, and yet people still defend their "rights" which come from - woop woop - either RT or CNN. its sad.

Haha, and you're not a troll?

Macorian we got a troll here ^

Luke Gardiner anyone who disagrees with you and who’s first language isn’t English is a Russian or Chinese super spy here to deceive you lol keep dreaming 😂

Jaime Stardust Oh shit here’s one.

There are a lot of real people, too. I am not a troll, just someone who wants to see what is going on. Ostrovsky, in spite of the attacks on him here by various people on both sides, is, I think, a very honest guy, and pretty brave. He was threatened with death, beaten up multiple times, but remains a reporter. There is a model for a war journalist.

Есть перевод. Смотрим, и читаем ваши комментарии.

Although the trolls still arrive.

Great point with all the misinformation being spread by Putin.

***** what misinformation? Vice news shows a devastation of eastern Ukraine by ukranian army as well as Russian TV does

***** But this video shows city, which was bombed by Ukrainian army, and poor people, who absolutely didn't deserve it, and still their houses were destroyed, and their beloved were killed, just because Poroshenko wanted to gain political points and end it all fast, instead of long talks and negotiations. What misinformation was refuted? Common Ukrainian soldiers aren't all evil nazi, and there are good guys and bad guys as everywhere? We knew it. Still, they are bombing their own citizens. How they think, this people will live with them in one country after?

***** nuh mexico doesnt have power to invade but russia doest but i bet Putin is scared i Bet he is/on and if u do support mexico be ready to invade US or your a lier/or should i say couch warrior?

Luked Guilt SAME GOES TO ME TOO 😂🙌

Украинская армия - это банда убийц и насильников!

@@user-qo5hz1dq6x Украинская Армия это Герои Украины !А ты Фашист как и твой путин

4 years later and Donetsk is nowhere near falling.

@@gmk746 nor they have reached Kiev lol

This comment is interesting

If you do understand what you've said, please explain how Putin did it.

Encouraging the uprising which is little more than a powerplay for him and domestic Russian politics.

KMA Freddie, "encouraging the uprising"? Do you suggest to surrender and be murdered without resistance, "quickly and painlessly"? *Never*.

В сра.ло Дур.каине 😂

Зачем сбивать сатуи? Поставье новую - Порошенко (если есть за что), а Ленина оставьте для истории. В Европе тоже все исторические статую Ломают?

Александр Мельников Co tam pierdzielisz? Nic nie kumam z tej cyrylicy mutantów z Syberii...xD

gotmituns Ломайте свои статуи. В коммунизме нет ничего плохого, просто его у нас исказили и извратили.

JC WEBB YES THEY WILL BE

You left out the paid part. Paid Putin trolls in 3,2,1..................

Because they have a different opinion makes him a troll? I've seen american trolls and not even ONE russian troll.

Meh Gusta Ok man, whatever you say.

Meh Gusta The russian rhetoric itself it ass backwards. Nazi's and junta handing out water and bread. Real fucking nazis...More then the seperatists had for them.

AH FUCK!

former communist countries must suck to live in with all the war and corruption

zachary159 Thy Latin america countries, aka, future communist countries!

What revolution? This is a civil war you nutcase.

Get out of here fashion police.

I think he looks fine with those jeans

He actually looks really good

Nah those jeans are too skinny.. If shit goes down you aint runnin away fast enough lol

Akhtem Er u sick perve.

wantafanta01 The water has been so muddied by the media. I do not even know who is telling the truth any more. So I will leave that up to the people there in the stink. But I will continue to pray for all involved.

Да какая тут неразбериха, все понятно! США в Сирии не смогло свергнуть правительство, а тут получилось. У России с Европой большой товарооборот, вот и решили его прервать, которая хочет в Европу. Senator McCain в 2013 году пригрозил России, что она скоро дорого заплатит за своё непослушание (не отдали Snowden), я это прекрасно помню! А помните под каким предлогом хотели ввести войска НАТО в Сирию? Под предлогом применения химического оружия! И тут опять вмешалась Россия и сирийское химическое оружие уничтожили!

wantafanta01 "the pro-russian rebels werent blindly firing artillery at area's they know has a civilian population..." because they are hiding among them.

Cycle of violence continues.

Funny is...thats all because of parasite gods, so even if intentions of your are right and wise...conclusion shows how much more you have to learn.

Ones that are alive probably not are not feeling very good about Russia unleashing so much suffering on their people but at least it has become very clear they are on the right side of history now.

Дырявым слава!!!

Героям Слава!

💪💪💪💪💪

Слава потомкам предателей и карателей! Украинские полицаи самые полицайские в мире!

and the paid upvotes begin

Piezipx maybe Kremlin ran out of Money :D

The war began a while ago, and the rebels haven't made one single territorial gain since the Ukrainian Army counterattack. gg.

Sphynra the rebels dont want to make territorial ganes, they just want to live in peace in the area that THEY control and not be burned alive by the right sector like their comrades in Odessa!

***** trust me, I would love to. And soon I will.

ditto though i`ll also add it always gets me how those soldiers chuckle when asked how the population reacted

... that would be the government forced upon a nation after a "democratic revolution". The existing government of Ukraine.

but why bomb i am sure foot soldier confrontation would've been better if war was the only ultimatum they had at their disposal

Bullshit. You can't rush a fortified town with infantry unless you're prepared to lose loads of them. Besides; if you try, the damage would be much worse. Thing about soldiers is that they don't really want to die any more than anyone else, so if you start throwing them away, they'll mutiny. It's well documented that the (pro) Russians used to hide their mortar positions inside the city, so the Ukrainians either had to just sit still and get blown up or shoot back to show them that they couldn't count on human shields. In the end the rebs had to abandon the city; not because they were bombed out of it, but because it got surrounded.

Nkakzola Africano From the humanitarian point of view, it would be best to put all ambitions aside and all weapons down, for either side. But they fight and use all kinds of weapon, the bombs are just less predictable and leave more noticeable marks.

Snagabott very true I hear your justification of things but come on man those old people had despair written on their faces. Good enough they lost the city but yes they got shelled which ultimately led to them being surrounded and they had to abandon it if they wanted to survive. My biggest concern is what happened to other options was this the only option? why has it come so easy to mankind to resort to violence as a method of instilling control or power?

***** Right like RT said, a retreat is really a small victory. I guess the Ukrainian army should make the pro-Russians retreat into the black sea.....then by your logic the rebels will have won.

LOL.

Andrew MRQ I guess, I have no experience with them personally. I think that they have a shit load more confidence than before though.

Well they are soldiers after all. Soldiers that are forced to kill people and watch people getting killed. Humour will be used so that nobody goes mental.

The soldier means: there's a lot of citizens here who still favour the separatists, but now that we're here, what else can they say?

And then Kiev and Lvov.

Alexej Macheriakov Crimea has nukes? lol

Alexej Macheriakov Crimea couldn't even stop Russia from slowly taking it over. I mean a few APCs and they just slowly rolled into town. Schlieffen Plan it was not. The Navy just fucking stood around with their dicks in their hands. I'm sure if anyone with a box of ammunition comes to Crimea they'll suck the dick of the new overlord without question.

Crimea has voted to be part of Russia multiple times, once after the dissolution of the Soviet Union and now. It's a Russian peninsula in terms of people, culture and language, that was occupied by Ukraine. There would be no reason to resist Russian military presence (which has been there for hundreds of years since it became part of the empire).

IlyZor Cool story bro. Voting to be a part of a dictatorship after their tanks have already illegally seized control isn't exactly a "free election". But it's what you Russians think an election means. Pointing a gun at you and saying "vote for Russia or I don't know, maybe my finger will slip" isn't democracy and the vote is meaningless. And that Russian military presence was there under a lease, the Russians paid to have their presence there. The same could be said for Cuba and the United States, so I guess the US can take over Cuba.

***** you're right, my parents told me the very same happened in Chechnya, the old russian women would stay quiet, be fed, taken care of, and left a place to sleep in. As soon as the Russians found the group they would completely back stab the people who kept them alive.

***** those are the same citizens who were helping the pro-russians and calling these soldiers fascist

yeah for instance, why do they all wear those stripped shirts?

That is entirely true - Ukrainians in the beginnings of ww2 butchered Polish population in then eastern Poland lwow(lviv today) areas today Ukraine. This included women and children. Putin used this (exactly this) to invade Ukraine.

Most of them are hastily recruited. So they're not what you would call.. professional yet.

Kremlin tool

The only reason Civilian areas are bombed is because the cowardly tactic of seperatists is to hide within Civilian Areas. They can shoot indiscriminately at the army, but if the army tries to shoot back at Anti-aircraft missiles that have been taking down planes they will have casualties. This is the face of modern warfare.

Yeah, dude! Iraq and Afghanistan are good examples - to make whole country free and rich it is just needed to kill those who do not agree or those who just lived near those who do not agree. Go go Ukraine, you will be free like Iraq soon!

Karbafoz Aga " Iraq and Afghanistan are good examples". Not really sure how you compare Ukraine with Iraq and Afghanistan. I dont claim I'm informed on the politics and the history between Ukraine->Russian tensions. I'm not even fully opposed to a referendum. However, the annexation of Crimea cost ukraine in the hundreds of billions worth of deposits of resources within the Ukraine seas. I think that such a referendum should happen through democracy and not gunpoint. Just the perspective of an outsider. And I wasnt even addressing the right of civilians to overthrow their government. I was only specifically addressing the 10000000x claims that Ukrainians are murderers. I'll tell you what. How about the seperatists leave the city and shoot at them from a big park/forest outside the city. Watch how fast they get obliterated by air support. 100% of them would die in 30 seconds. No wonder civilians get hurt in the crossfire. Its because the shooters are hiding amongst civilians making it impossible to return fire without casualties. This is what is crazy to me. RT (Russia Today), blasts the world with these propaganda stories about Ukrainians being murderers with there are civilian casualties and I'm left thinking. Are people really this stupid? How can they possibly return fire without hurting people. From an outsider its hard for me to not side with Ukraine because all the pro-russian sentiment coming out is completely nuts. I'm not American, I'm from Australia. I feel for the (pro-russian), ukrainians in this area that dont want to live under the Ukrainian regime, but i dont agree with doing it at gunpoint.

Jeremy Orchard 1. If you would look on the beginning of this branch, it was Derpy Slendy who compared situation with Iraq/Afghanistan and my comment was mostly for him. 2. How about to not blockade and shelling cities but start negotiations instead? Separatism in this region started when Kiev denied any negotiations with Dnetsk/Lugansk and started to use army and strange para-military units like "Azov" e.t.c.. 3. There is a lot of propaganda from both sides. I am using very simple criteria to identify a murderer - who shots and kills innocents is a murderer. On the video above you sees ruined buildings with civilians. Who shelled them? This journalist is able to film the basement where he was kept by separatists. This is terrible. Will Russian journalists be able to film something like this? No, because they were killed by Ukrainian government forces - already 5 deaths.

Karbafoz Aga And what about a plane full of people shot down by AA guns from these fortified position. Are you saying that its okay for the seperatists to hide amongst civilians and shoot down planes? Reality is, the people should be kicking the seperatists out of their houses and streets and voting to not allow them to setup entrenched positions within their homes. If people allow the military in their homes to fight from a hidden position, they certainly dont DESERVE to be hit by bombs, but they cant really call it murder. Its not murder, its a casualty of war that they got themselves involved in. Again, i feel for these people though, because if they have it shitty form their government I can see why they are calling for the referendum. I dont oppose their political position. But I am diametrically opposed to them calling it murder when from all intents and purposes it seems the majority of the residents open their homes to militant seperatists with open arms. and are allowing war to by run from their homes.

I mean... His men died the day before at the age of 19-20, because they've made the decision to fight for their country, give up everything. And this old man complains - there is not enough supplies, on the first day of deoccupation. In this case, old man is being very disrespectful.

Russia and the former soviet states have been struggling with population decline. Therefore, the population is older.

plus everyone younger is fighting for the separatist or Ukraine

Well, I would think the people currently there are older cause all younger peoples (especially with families fled). While older people, such as the 90 year old women we see cannot mainly due to there age. Or further more, they feel the need to stay cause it's there home, and where would they go.

Ahmed theLion you are a genius really :) **sarcasm** simply most of the young people left. because its harder for elders to leave.

angga mussafi because..american propaganda

because...african propaganda

angga mussafi because..canadian propaganda

Crab people , Crap people....

enoz2 Hello, is this the Krusty Krab?

wake up moron '

Yup one day some guy and his buddies oust the government the next day another group of guys are going to oust you. Once the system and standard of respect collapses it all turns to shit.

You guys are idiots. I am pretty damn sure your country was also founded on a rebellion of some sort.

part of the problem was that. and part of the problem was them mortaring. near civilian location and expecting ukraine army filled with conscripts not to fire back. it's like hamas firing rockets at Israel and expecting them not to fire back. not that i agree with Israel or anything. i dont. but if hamas wants to be a real country and get upset about loses. then it needs to move those rockets underground firing location not fire from the middle of the city

MsTokies yeah, it's sad to hear about civilians dying because some soldiers are too scared to move away from their homes. If it's an occupation and their guerrillas I could understand but this was them just shooting from the town and if the Ukrainians ever fired back it was because they were fascists. Stupid yet hard to argue logic.

Christian Gallegos the people the police where stupid. seriously stupid. but it was propaganda. they where told they made so much money they couldnt keep told that the other parts of ukraine where not worth as much as they where. told that there would be great reward to go become russia. but russia doesnt give a shit about them. they need ukraine yes. they need E ukraine. but they want to rule it with the burden of people having a say. same for the EU for that matter. the sad part is no one knows how much ukraine is worth because everyone has been stealing from it for so long. the side effect of the austerity might be figuring out how much ukraine actually makes.

MsTokies they are a middle ground with the EU and the RF, and they do hold three major oil pipelines connecting Russia with Europe. In my opinion they should join the EU, without them they will be threatened by Russia, again, and with Russia they'll become a puppet with some other Russian power hungry president like Putin. Let's hope Ukraine chooses the lesser of two evils.

Christian Gallegos true there are no good guys in this. i hope they get that Crimea oil field back