Ukraine's Armoured Front: An Update

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As the war in Ukraine continues, we take a look at recent developments and the use of armour and other weapons systems on both sides, including the use of Western AFVs donated to the Ukrainian Army.
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00:00 | Intro
00:19 | Recap
02:14 | Western & Russian Armour
12:21 | Artillery & Air Force
16:50 | Conclusion
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@postcollapse1170 7 ай бұрын

Kudos that the Tank Museum uses real combat footage despite youtubes guidlines.

@gruffelo6945 7 ай бұрын

youtubes guidelines are shitty

@felldin 7 ай бұрын

Daring, indeed!

@dosenkohl564 7 ай бұрын

They allready used combat footage from ww2. What is new about that? They show and explain how destructive devices work, to use an US law word. So weapons of war. Only Warships are bigger than tanks.

@Skorpychan 7 ай бұрын

They're crowdfunded, and have an established webstore. They don't need to have a monetized channel so much, since it's just advertising for the museum itself.

@kristofferjohansson3768 7 ай бұрын

Giving us some nice turret tossing contestants.

@crapphone7744 7 ай бұрын

It never ceases to amaze me that in the year2023, General Mud still commands the battlefield.

@Ninebellsandalliswell 7 ай бұрын

Good for you mate :)

@MetapeterUndMetagreta 7 ай бұрын

yeah, they could use hovercrafts...

@Ninebellsandalliswell 7 ай бұрын

@@MetapeterUndMetagreta Interesting!

@sparkyfromel 7 ай бұрын

Wehrmacht general ....amazing how cold Russia it is in winter , who would have guessed ! Nato adviser .... mines , naahh , nobody use those things anymore

@abas656thegodemperor9 7 ай бұрын

@@MetapeterUndMetagretathe hovercrafts that do actually exist are even more vulnerable,so unless hovercraft tech has a breakthrough, its unlikely they'll be used for land vehicles.

@adfab5344 7 ай бұрын

Problem is that they are armoured for other tanks but only 5 % of losses are to other tanks. Plunging artillery, drones & ATGM (possibly after being immobilised via mines) seem to be the main threat.

@brianjones2899 7 ай бұрын

Exactly. Any side needs tanks if they can get in play, but in this war it is rare that they get the opportunity.

@SuperIv7 7 ай бұрын

That's been the case for the last century, nothing new here. Tanks do not fight tanks, that's not the idea, there are much better specialized anti-tank weapons, from helicopters to ATGM's.

@bryangrote8781 7 ай бұрын

I've read many reports on tank losses from WW2 and a few from other conflicts as well. In WW2 enemy tanks were only about 15-20% of the targets engaged by their own tanks regardless of whether the source of the reports were Allied or German. Artillery, mines, and infantry carried weapons each caused a similar percentage of tank losses in that conflict vs other tanks and far more collectively. This has been true in nearly every other conflict that I've read about. As to aircraft, they were responsible for only 4-8% of losses in WW2 regardless of theater or or side and were responsible for a far smaller percentage of tank losses than initially believed. This has also been true in every conflict since WW2 as well, even during the Gulf War in 1991 after precision guided weapons were used in large numbers. I think it's likely with the addition of drones this percentage will climb up vs prior conflicts once those statistics are known, but may once again be lower than initially believed. Regardless of source enemy tanks have been a less common source of tanks lost in every conflict I've read about and this one will be no different.

@benjones4365 7 ай бұрын

@@SuperIv7 Most of the average man out there, believes the image of Tank on Tank battles, they are very rare indeed, not even Kursk, where the majority of Tanks were not knocked out by other Tanks. The only Tank on Tank battle that I can think of was the Battle of 73 Easting.

@TheRelativy 7 ай бұрын

This is why T-55 is still very useful tank despite west laugh about it. It can still destory anythink other than MBT and survive hits from everything that is not dedicated anti tank weapon. If they would be equipped with more modern optics it is almost a perferct solution for this war. Cheap, easy accesible, less resource hungy, and also mobile, protected sufficiently and poses enough firepower.

@Tuck-Shop 7 ай бұрын

You can either advance quickly through minefields and defences or minimise losses. Not both.

@nickcharles1284 7 ай бұрын

Ukraine can do neither. If you go slowly through minefields, Russian artillery - which has been meticulously mapped out just for this reason - will come to bear and take a terrible toll. Which is what has happened, over and over and over,

@Tuck-Shop 7 ай бұрын

@@nickcharles1284 [EDIT: Removed unnecessary barb for intro.] Counter arty, drone strikes, interrupting logistics etc eliminates Russian arty. And Ukraine are doing a good job. Takes time though so it seems slow. This minimises losses. The second option. Going through a minefield without taking care of arty is the first option. Faster, lots of dead. Ukraine can, and is minimising losses by striking arty with precision strikes, hitting ammo dumps with HIMARS or cruise missiles. Nerfing the arty before the Ukrainians even move forwards. Hence delays. And those strikes have happened so much it's not even worth mentioning on daily updates anymore. Nice try though. Just for the final twist of the proverbial knife let's quote you. "will come to bear and take a terrible toll" Will? ... When? Even you admit it hasn't happened yet and the offensive is currently ongoing. Lines of defences have already been breached. When? You are waiting for something yet to happen.

@cerberus2373 7 ай бұрын

@@Tuck-Shop my brother in christ its been nearly four months and they havent even reached the first line of defences.

@deixtra 7 ай бұрын

@@cerberus2373the first lines of defense have been passed for a month or two now in key areas. Give them more gear and they will do it in a day. At this point the west is just making fun of them by not providing more. "Boo hoo this will anger our buttslut putin" "

@derPetunientopf 7 ай бұрын

@@cerberus2373 False. By Russian definition they are just about over the first line and by Ukrainian definition they are just over the second one.

@yesiamarussianbot3076 7 ай бұрын

Calling that Challenger damaged, is like calling the Ukrainian offensive a success.

@ebperformance8436 7 ай бұрын

Or calling a T-14 a real tank? We already seen a T-14 get knocked out of a parade! Russian parades are like land mines to a T-14, Russian parades exposes a T-14s propaganda, plot armor. The T-14 was finally recovered….but it was hard! The tank recovering vehicle had trouble removing the T-14 off the parade roads….the T-14 crew made it out alive, and probably awarded with a Extended stay at Club Gulag. Question? Do T-14s come with the option to disconnect the final drive…..to move the parade shy T-14 off the road? Or maybe the Incompetent, tank crew forgot to bring the tool to do it? You would think a tool like that is kept in the tank.

@yesiamarussianbot3076 7 ай бұрын

@@ebperformance8436 I wouldn't know, I served on a Leopard 2A6. Also I don't see what a T14 has anything to do with my remark.

@ebperformance8436 7 ай бұрын

@@yesiamarussianbot3076 with so many Russian bots, it’s hard to tell these days….your KZfaq name is a tell tell sign, you’re a Russian bot….If you’re not a Russian bot….then you’re a liar’ based on your name’ No matter how you slice it….I either call BS on the Validity of your story, or you’re name. Soooo….Which one is it? The subject on this video is tank related? Is it not? Ok then! A leopard 2 is a superior tank….compared to the T-14’ Do you agree? Or disagree? let’s see where this goes.

@yesiamarussianbot3076 7 ай бұрын

@@ebperformance8436 The subject of the video is tank related but it's about the Challenger, not the T14 Armata. To be sure the T14 hasn't been at the front lines although the propaganda videos would like people believe otherwise, also the T14 seems to have many problems in its development. I think it's hilarious that people think that when someone disagrees with them they are a Russian bot. I actually used that as my Themtube name for a long time. If you don't know what a beakie is, well that's on you

@user-te4rk1td9j 6 ай бұрын

@@ebperformance8436 Everyone is a Russian bot if you don't agree lol. Also most YT names got butchered (like mine) after some update.

@bobandrew8884 7 ай бұрын

‘severely damaged’ that a euphemism for being blown to bits? edit to add the Challenger 2 is indestructable we all have to agree

@AKUJIVALDO 7 ай бұрын

Nothing is indestructible, except time lol

@heinedenmark 7 ай бұрын

Artillery, still King of Battle

@anthonykaiser974 7 ай бұрын

Come rain, snow, sleet or hail, Field Artillery will always deliver the "hate mail."

@NicolasAlexanderOtto 19 сағат бұрын

Brilliant video! Looking forward to the next update! Thanks for this and the last one!

@ph6560 7 ай бұрын

Quite nice to see the gentleman do these kind of analysis as well. *_Really hope to see more of this._*

@SMGJohn 7 ай бұрын

Just turn on BBC and you will never run out of content.

@SMGJohn 7 ай бұрын

@@karmakazi101 Greetings King of Obvious

@anthonyhowrard526 7 ай бұрын

he talked about human wave tactics I think He is confused about the mostly fictional Enemy at the Gates. hoorah!

@PavewayJDAM 7 ай бұрын

This war is fascinating in how technology has almost unknowingly shifted warfare. $1000 drones wiping out whole squads with hand grenades. FPV drones flying into open tank hatches killing the crew.

@alexbowman7582 7 ай бұрын

If you can believe the propaganda apparently the World’s first use of autonomous drones.

@DrLoverLover 7 ай бұрын

fell for the propaganda ?

@phil-jc8hp 7 ай бұрын

The lancert is actually 100,000$l

@solaireastora5394 7 ай бұрын

@@DrLoverLoverhello Ivan

@moistwienor4572 7 ай бұрын

@@DrLoverLoverwhat do you mean propaganda? Theres endless clips of Ukrainian drones with hand grenades and explosive charges terrorizing russian soldiers who can barely fight back against a such a target.

@viandengalacticspaceyards5135 7 ай бұрын

The Americans might have the most gear, but nobody beats the Brits at calm level-headed commentary. Thanks to the Tank Museum. It's refreshing.

@saratov99 7 ай бұрын

Unless you don't have loicense for that.

@a3b36a04 7 ай бұрын

It gets even better when they showcase freshly received Western equipment for Ukrainian offensive with a full screen "Start praying ORCS!!!" caption while talking about their "meat wave" assaults on Russian lines.

@aymonfoxc1442 7 ай бұрын

True but you can't talk the enemy to death... Well, not very easily and not very quickly 😂

@RiteKnight 7 ай бұрын

@@aymonfoxc1442 It's got less to do with beating the Russians with words and more to do with keeping Western populations at home compliant and supportive.

@babaganoush6106 7 ай бұрын

it is. wish our politicians were as level headed; prepared to listen to our armed forces and give them what they want.

@marioshobbyhq 7 ай бұрын

I like how "a British challenger 2 has been reported as severely damaged" was being said while the background scene shown a blacked out smoking wreck with dislodged turret of that tank. Love British humour.

@44johnburton 7 ай бұрын

Only worst than some that are still in storage

@skepticalbadger 7 ай бұрын

It likely was burned out and should be chalked up as destroyed, but the turret isn't dislodged. That's how it's supposed to look!

@pestomystic 7 ай бұрын

@skepticalbadger that's a cope friend. Very obvious that the turret is hanging too far over the hull. 2/2 on turret pops for the chally 2.

@ratatatatata5290 7 ай бұрын

@@skepticalbadgerchallenger 2 still uses 2 stage ammunition & can’t even be unloaded / re-packed once it’s in the breach. Challenger has no blowout panels and instead “fire resistant” ammunition containers within the hull. Sadly challenger has been left in the past & is IMO a very subpar tank with a doctrine that will not shine in a very fast paced conflict like UA vs. RU. Mobility & Crew protection must be key.

@thehumus8688 7 ай бұрын

its like monthy python Black knight. *only torso and head left This is only flesh wound

@hellshigh9895 7 ай бұрын

Love the fact you could buy the 1 to 35 model of the Ukrainian M1A1 before they actually got there

@siy1580 7 ай бұрын

And models of them have been made of them well before they where even considered

@alangordon3283 7 ай бұрын

@@siy1580there’s models of many fictitious things . So what is the point from the pair of you .

@dominuslogik484 7 ай бұрын

@@alangordon3283 I think its because they find it funny to be able to buy a model of something that was fictional when it was made but is no longer fictional now. there is a level of Irony to it

@markwilliams2620 7 ай бұрын

@@alangordon3283 Oh Alan, who tinkled in your porridge?

@PitchBlackYeti 7 ай бұрын

CAPITALISM BABY!

@Stuka87 7 ай бұрын

Thank you for this more detailed update. The news reports very generalized current events.

@rgriffinRETIRED_SHEEPDOG 7 ай бұрын

That was an excellent update. Thank you.

@ljoe7038 7 ай бұрын

I dont understand,what's the problem? Ukrainians received their guns, they need just to go there and reconquer territories and then each of them receives ten russian untermensches as slaves and money and glory and european citizenship and do on, they mist just go there , ruzzians are "stupid cowards with poor genetics with stupid leaders and dont deserve to live" - this is what you were t told many years , is it no true? Ukrainians , you must just go there , is it so really hard to understand?

@Br1cht 3 ай бұрын

Didn’t age well though.

@guy4698 7 ай бұрын

great info

@rosstisbury1626 7 ай бұрын

dont forget the FAB500 and now 1500kg warhead model gliderkit bombs

@kyledabearsfan 7 ай бұрын

The drone/artillery relationship has seemed to be the biggest threat by any side so far. Super cheap and replaceable, swarm tactics. It's quite terrifying.

@tylerclayton6081 6 ай бұрын

It’s not if you can gain air supremacy. But Ukraine and Russia and equally matched so neither one is powerful enough to gain any advantage over the other in the air or on the ground or sea. Which is quite sad for Russia considering that their Navy and airforce are 10 times larger than Ukraine’s and supposedly more modern as well. The only modern equipment Ukraine has comes from the west and even that is sent in very low numbers

@davidgoodnow269 5 ай бұрын

Drone detection is the highest immediate priority for everyone not currently under fire, I am sure. The issue is that while humans can be trained to be superb at drone detection as long as their senses are undamaged, (A) war is very hard on the senses, and (B) a decision has blatantly been made that information and materials for training to detect drones will not be distributed. Since all equipment for augmenting natural human senses is quite inexpensive and legal to buy and own anywhere in the world but requires a trained human user to use, what can you do? An EM rifle sells for €12,000, or can be built by anyone with access to HAM radio guides and equipment for 1/10th that, with a 5 km reach. Not enough to bag true top-shelf reconnaissance and surveillance drones; those you need either a high-energy laser or similar battlefield directed-energy weapon, or creative use of directional electromagnetic-frequency broadcast equipment and a real disrespect for the way things are supposed to be used, plus creativity. Artillery with no fire direction is no danger.

@marvwatkins7029 7 ай бұрын

These updates are great TM. Keep them coming!

@marcelogonzalez8547 7 ай бұрын

Also, the carrusel discussion that we see time and again becomes moot when you realize that both the Challenger and Leopard 2 both stow ammunition in the hull. Only the M1 Abrams has the full compliment of ammunition stored in a separated compartment with blow-out pannels.

@piotrd.4850 7 ай бұрын

Yes-no. Challenger and Leopard 2 carry primary warload in isolated magazines and additional round in the hull. Since T_64 in Soviet tanks, crew sits ON the primary ammo storage and is surrounded by secondary ones. Placement of autoloader carousel wasn't bad for the time but has it's consequences.

@marcelogonzalez8547 7 ай бұрын

You must be confused by how soviet tanks store extra ammo and mixing it up with how western tanks do, wich is actually different from tank to tank, and generalizing it, the same mistake the presenter of the video made, as he also generalized how western tanks stow ammunition too. Both the Leopard 2 and Challenger 2 have different ways of stowing ammunition each, and neither is as you describe. The Leopard 2 has 2 main ammunition storages, on in the turret bustle with blowout pannels, the only one completely isolated from the crew, and one of even higher capacity in the front left hull next to the driver without any blowout pannels. The Challenger 2 uses 2 part ammunition and only the projectile parts are stored in the turret bustle with no blowout pannels, and the propellent charges are stowed entirely in the crew compartment mainly around the back turret floor without any separation from the crew and next to the driver in the front left of the hull. @@piotrd.4850

@Alan.livingston 7 ай бұрын

With the Russian attack choppers, they did move to pretty much exclusively lobbing rockets, but more recently there is a bit of footage of them using atgw from max range to engage vehicles trapped in lanes through minefields and whatnot. Seems that they have found their niche on the defensive.

@markus717 7 ай бұрын

Right. Luckily the F-16's with good AA missiles can eliminate that threat to Ukrainian armour.

@DrLoverLover 7 ай бұрын

@@markus717 🤣

@paulking7019 7 ай бұрын

There could be as few as twenty five KA 52s total left now. This in part is due to recent use of longer range laser guided MANPADS that have been used to great effect against russias attack helicopter fleet. ⌛🍿😎🍿

@mcal27 7 ай бұрын

@@paulking7019 well let’s see your proof to back that.. but even if it were the case, they have Mil-28 and mi-35 both being adapted to handle the new Vikhr ATGM’s that (so far) lets them engage out of range of western manpads

@mcal27 7 ай бұрын

@@markus717 yeah once the pilots have learnt English, then finish flight training, then hedge hopped their way to where the KH-52’s are as it’s the only way to dodge the Mig-31/Su-35/S-400/Pantsir defences in their 1982 vintage F-16A’s..

@Archer89201 7 ай бұрын

Although the western MBTs have excellent armor and firepower , a major problem is that artillery and atgms can still kill them and mines immobilize them the same. Also damaged tanks have to be sent all the way to Poland for repairs for Leopard 2s and maybe all the way ti Britain for Challengers, M1A2s maybe in western Europe. Also lately the Russians have been hitting targets successfully beyond hundred kilometers of tge frontline with Tornado-S and Iskanders spotting them it drones that seems to indicate shortage of air defense systems or gaps in the coverage. They hit trains and the Kharkov tank plant multiple times this week

@gl3411 7 ай бұрын

Imagine you are being sent in Robotyne area now, chances to survive around 20%. RIP

@BCase56 7 ай бұрын

love the level headed commentary on the current goings with relevant history

@tedteddington6223 7 ай бұрын

Level headed? Listen more carefully... He talks about Leopard 1's being donated to Ukraine, with no qualification about their condition or capabilities. He then talks about T55's and talks about their state, conditions and capabilities. Is that level? His commentary ''style'' though, was level headed.

@rousseautyl15 4 ай бұрын

@@tedteddington6223he did say the Leo 1s were being adapted to modern standards prior to being sent

@wrxs1781 7 ай бұрын

A war of attrition, hard tp predict the outcome. Also the video was much enjoyed for its news of the conflict and modern day warfare.

@nickcharles1284 7 ай бұрын

It is easy to predict: name a war of attrition that was won the the smallest country with the least soldiers and equipment and 1/100th the economic industrial base. Spoilers: none. Zero.

@AWMJoeyjoejoe 7 ай бұрын

@@nickcharles1284Vietnam and Afghanistan (both times)

@astrolabe88 7 ай бұрын

I don't know if this video is a reupload or this gentleman doesn't read the news, but the Ukrainian counter-offensive started 3 month ago. I know the anglos are very invested in this war, but it is important to stay objective and leave the copium to nafo twitter accounts

@raulduke6105 7 ай бұрын

Excellent!

@danbendix1398 7 ай бұрын

Imagine the amazement of our WWI and WWII forefathers if they learned we can guide artillery rounds directly into a specific target (tank, machine gun nest, bridge, etc).

@bernhardlangers778 7 ай бұрын

You may want to Google "Fritz X". Yes, it is a glide vehicle, but still darn impressive for that time.

@hippoace 7 ай бұрын

and strapping mortar rounds to flying drones...

@573gwills3 7 ай бұрын

Schrödinger’s summer offensive! If Ukraine loses they can say they lost the fight because you changed the result by measuring it!

@pinkyfull 7 ай бұрын

9:10 whole true for Abrams and Leo 2 (though leo 2 and abrams both have hull stowage that doesnt have blowout panels) the challenger notably does not. On fact there is a video of a chally 2 burnt out in ukraine that clearly shows it had a fatal ammo explosion within the turret. Now due to the way in which it was stowed the crew did get out. But dont imagine that there arent flaws in western mbt design.

@Br1cht 3 ай бұрын

Only a bigot would say that about the Western Wunderwaffen!!! They transcend the Law of physics don’t you know?

@theromanorder 7 ай бұрын

Please do more tank doctrine videos

@stephenwarhurst6615 7 ай бұрын

Hope this War ends soon

@jabezhane 7 ай бұрын

Cut the funding today and it will be over by next Friday.

@kristoffer3000 7 ай бұрын

Tell NATO that, they won't listen but y'know... Stoltenberg (head of NATO) even admitted they made this war inevitable and were pushing for it

@Zarcondeegrissom 7 ай бұрын

russia could just go home, that would end it. lol.

@jabezhane 7 ай бұрын

@@Zarcondeegrissom Yeah more to it than that.

@Tiberium_Tiger 7 ай бұрын

(((They))) want a regime change in Russia so they can exploit and strip mine it just like (((they’re))) doing to the USA as we speak

@yesterdiegazza817 7 ай бұрын

Very Informative and technical. Thank you Sir

@LayronPK 7 ай бұрын

You know, as we here say it: if you think the offensive is too slow - you can always come here and show yourself how it should be done!

@gaptaxi 7 ай бұрын

Look at Gulf War 1, months and months of Artillery and Air Force Bombing before the heavy units moved in, just a pity the US didn´t provide F-16 last year?

@julius7539 7 ай бұрын

I mean, it has been slow, but that is part of their plan. They have decided against high-risk operations so that they can minimize their casualties while bleeding the Russians dry over time. And it's working. All one has to do is look at the daily losses for each side to see how well the Ukrainians are doing. They are on the offensive but the Russians are the ones taking more casualties.

@interpl6089 7 ай бұрын

You should surrender, Kievan elites are just throwing you into the meat grinder while buying expensive houses in Spain and elsewhere.

@jm9371 7 ай бұрын

Well timed, awesome update!

@feedyourmind6713 7 ай бұрын

Well done. It's new warfare, which require learning curves.

@aidancreager4095 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for using real footage

@heinrichzerbe 7 ай бұрын

I thoroughly enjoyed this video. Informative without trying to be sensational.

@terencemorgan4506 7 ай бұрын

This could be a modern version of WW1, Year 1918: War of attrition on Western Front is clearly going on, Germany throws all it’s resources attempting a final breakthrough offensive during spring and summer of 1918 and fails. Afterwards, a weakened German army gets ground down into a slow retreat back to Germany resulting in the Armistice day in November. The only question is whether Ukraine can organize another offensive attempt?

@peterwait641 7 ай бұрын

Did you you hear about the CR3 suspension scandal, a number of the new MK 3 units with upgraded low friction internals were fitted and gassed up with excess thread pitch clearance in the cylinder which would have risk of failure ! KPI's before safety .

@thewayofbiutze3899 6 ай бұрын

Unfortunately, the analyses regarding the Russian tank production capacity do not reflect the realities. Russian military production numbers surpass NATO's total production in every aspect. This is an unexpected development, and the Ukrainian army is paying a heavy price for this mistake. Just looking at the monthly production of T90M tanks reveals the severity of the situation.

@davydatwood3158 7 ай бұрын

If anyone on KZfaq knows the reality of returning 60 year old tanks to servicability, it will be the Tank Museum!

@Les537 7 ай бұрын

It allows the 60 year old conscripts to return to their youth.

@bryangrote8781 7 ай бұрын

It's unfortunate that the way things are going the Tank Museum may end up having most of the surviving tanks. They certainly have more tanks than the British Army.

@lzappa9109 7 ай бұрын

11/10! Every time. Thank you for all the effort.

@teejay8899 7 ай бұрын

outstanding.

@grooverchan1600 7 ай бұрын

Just started a project about this for my EPQ. PERFECT TIMING!

@MrWadstw 7 ай бұрын

Splendid presentation and well delivered ,most informative and interesting analysis

@mcbain434444 7 ай бұрын

the challenger 2 sure did'nt vent its ammo unless you count the turret ring

@Wladislav 7 ай бұрын

Very insightful, thank you.

@rinkadink66 7 ай бұрын

very interesting..thank you..

@kennogawa6638 7 ай бұрын

Drone Wars have changed tank warfare.

@kez0o9 7 ай бұрын

I think this conflict is the one which will be remembered as when drones came into there own on the battlefield. Just wondering when they will have a fully autonomous hunter/killer version ? I would say that could be reality within @10years

@jumi9342 7 ай бұрын

Nothing changed the battlefield as much as advancements in reconnaissance and communication

@laxikaksi 7 ай бұрын

Drones in co-operation with mobile artillery have to a degree taken over the role tanks used to have in positional warfare.

@Doomer1984 7 ай бұрын

@@kez0o9there is some evidence that some of the drones were self guided

@kiele218 7 ай бұрын

@@kez0o9 Ты удивишься, но они уже лет 5 как есть

@MPenzlin 7 ай бұрын

best part: as 12:32 the stihl chain saw for "close quarter combat"

@banditdelta7172 7 ай бұрын

Thumbnail maker props to you

@jasonmartin1668 7 ай бұрын

As always,, educational, professional and extremely well done !!

@wessexdruid7598 7 ай бұрын

You can take the officer out of the cavalry, but...

@ORSOBIANCO11 7 ай бұрын

Excellent analysis as usual.

@laxikaksi 7 ай бұрын

In positional warfare, the combination of drones and mobile artillery have to a large degree taken over the role previously played by tanks. Drones are more difficult to detect and if shot down don’t cause any loss of human lives, while mobile artillery now has longer range, equal or better accuracy and is just as mobile as tanks.

@justinmcculloch7644 7 ай бұрын

shodingers summer offensive is one of the best ways to summarize what ive seen of the war

@Ubique2927 7 ай бұрын

Tactics need to change. It always needed to change and they have always changed.

@truthsRsung 7 ай бұрын

Do you mean resolving problems at a table instead of turning places we grow food into toxic wastelands?

@AWMJoeyjoejoe 7 ай бұрын

@@truthsRsungThat's up to the Russians. Only they have the power to end the war tomorrow

@johnnysex3230 7 ай бұрын

Человеческие волны солдат срочников, лол, а как же штрафники Бахмута, сражающиеся лопатами?

@RobFeldkamp 7 ай бұрын

I believe the chieftain, not long ago, said something to the effect that the likelyhood of the TOP flying of a T-tank due to the carousel is largely overblown. Af a round in an Abrams stowage gets hit the game is euqaly over.

@martinbabl1635 7 ай бұрын

I am not sure that you can call that tank burning at the end as severely damaged. Its burnt out, only good as cover.

@black_triton9264 7 ай бұрын

I appreciate that this video is only lightly biased with very, very little politicization. A museum shouldn't descend into that 👍 But, as "Cold Warriors" we know that the UA hasn't broken through to anything. Since 4 June (120 days ago), all they managed to do is secure a foothold in the Security Zone (identify enemy main axis, delay ops, combat out posts, local c/atks, attrit the en before they reach the main defensice positions MDP, etc, etc).That's the name we were taught. Apparently, the Soviets/Russians call it the Destruction Zone. Which i think we can now say is a truer description of their doctrinal activities in this zone. Seeing that UA has committed what was supposed to be 3rd echelon exploitation forces - like the 82nd Air Aslt Bde with their Challenger tanks - for battles in the security/destruction zone instead of Rommeling througha gap in the last defensive line - would strongly indicate that this offensive is over. In fact, it culminated long ago. 15 km advance in one tiny area "Bradley Square". With another 85 km still to go in order to reach Sea of Azov objectives... According to the rhythm of operations, the UA should expect a strong backhand blow. Let's see when, where and, indeed, if it happens.

@Doomer1984 7 ай бұрын

Quite agree I suspect the Russians are quite satisfied bleeding Ukraine white on its defence. I think it's too late in the year for a major assault. A slow steady creep is my guess

@lugerun 7 ай бұрын

But with the help of T55s (slovenian M55S) or equally outdated leo1s they will be able to break through 😂

@mikewingert5521 7 ай бұрын

As a former soldier; 24 years, i have nothing but praise for Ukraine. It’s a slogging match and no mistake.

@Ben1159a 7 ай бұрын

Same here, 12 year vet of the US military and nothing but respect for Ukraine.

@Orcawhale1 7 ай бұрын

As a former armchair general of 30 years, i must agree with the soldier above. It's a slogging match, no doubt.

@leonidjoseph5483 7 ай бұрын

Good thing that the woke europe and us will fight till the last ukranian. At least russia is not running unlike some from afganistan, vietnam, laos, combodia, iran with tail between the legs

@stc3145 7 ай бұрын

Ukraine second poorest country in Europe doing alone what some believe Nato as a whole would struggle with

@1337flite 7 ай бұрын

It's hard for anyone with the slightest bit of military experience or knowledge not to admire the Ukrainians as a people and their armed forces. They've done extremely well - magnificently - despite western governments who seem to be want them to have to fight the hardest, dumbest way. Slava Ukraini!!! 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦

@raygrant2439 7 ай бұрын

Thank you, very informative.

@NickWard-bz4jo 7 ай бұрын

Excellent service 👏 More of this, please 🙏

@thiscouldntblowmore 7 ай бұрын

Also, Challenger and Leopard will cook off just the same tossing the turret as T-72/80/90/64 with autoloader, they do not have these "venting" panels, only M1 Abrams has and maybe lelerc, but unsure about that and its not even present at the conflict area. Also there is already videos and pictures of both Leo and Challengers that have had catastrophic ammo explosions in "ukraine".

@MusicScala 7 ай бұрын

I dont understand the premise of this video, the counterattack is already fully going and even already coming to an end in a month or two. Its just that there arent any substantial advances made, because of the immense fortifications built by russia. And as said in the video, nothing is not being noticed on the battlefield. That makes it quite difficult to muster a suprise attack

@Archer89201 7 ай бұрын

They said they would reach Sea of Azov by October, its October already and there is still combat going on near Robotyne that way the starting point. I knew things were bad when they started making excuses for the failed attacks as simple probes.

@Blackcloud_Garage 7 ай бұрын

Really enjoy these analyses video’s.

@simon-pierrelussier2775 7 ай бұрын

5:46 the problem with Challenger 2 is likely going to be the vulnerable tracks and the lightly armored chassis.

@drew1427 7 ай бұрын

Being that we've already seen a challenger 2s turret pop I'd say theyre better then nothing but theyre certainly no superweapon.

@user-qv1vl8bn2m 7 ай бұрын

@@NeilHawkins-zq7bm the challenger ran into mines and the crew had time to bail, no different to many many T-tanks throughout this war The challenger 2 has no blowout panels, stores ammunition everywhere and is 2-piece so the gun cannot be unloaded in battle, not to mention it's around 70-tons which is extremely heavy sinking it into the ground and breaking bridges other tanks wouldn't It's pretty subpar in reality and is only kept around because we can't afford to replace them Ideally we'd have gotten rid of them by now but the ever dwindling budget says no

@DeeEight 7 ай бұрын

The Leopard 1s offer something similar in performance to the new US Army M10s. The 105mm L7 gun is still perfectly good at killing T-72s and older, and the HESH rounds they offer are much more useful for softer armored vehicles and bunkers/fortifications and that's liable to be the majority of what they're shooting, as pointed out, there have been very few MBT vs MBT engagements.

@ruinerblodsinn6648 7 ай бұрын

Has there been even one documented tank battle in this war? I haven’t seen any video

@Mthammere2010 7 ай бұрын

@@ruinerblodsinn6648look up Weeb Union and Red Effect. I'm sure you can find more.

@DeeEight 7 ай бұрын

@@ruinerblodsinn6648 yes, video emerging last week of a leopard 2 mauling a pair of Russian tanks.

@ruinerblodsinn6648 7 ай бұрын

@@DeeEight links please

@interpl6089 7 ай бұрын

And if Lancet touches it, it's toast. It's got practically no armor and mine protection...

@elliottsw 7 ай бұрын

Growing up near Dorchester I've always been proud that the Chally 2 has never been taken out by enemy action, now I'm even *more* proud that one *was* taken out but the crew all survived. It did its job perfectly.

@alphana7055 7 ай бұрын

Getting destroyed is its job?😂

@AWMJoeyjoejoe 7 ай бұрын

@@alphana7055Keeping the crew alive you melon.

@user-bf3dv7hu7c 7 ай бұрын

It’s just strange that you have such a double standards, if there were 100 challengers hit and all crew were fine, your logic could be accepted, but first challenger went to fire line and was hit immediately by kornet, directly in the front plate with big angle and still it was enough to get tank destroyed, so what are you proud about ? Maybe there is a video where crew went out unharmed, but I didn’t see it, or it just what Ukrainians told you ?

@AWMJoeyjoejoe 7 ай бұрын

@@user-bf3dv7hu7cYou just blindly believe everything Kiselyov tells you, don't you.

@user-bf3dv7hu7c 7 ай бұрын

@@AWMJoeyjoejoe Actually I’m not watching tv for 8 years and was supporting Navalnyi, participating demonstrations. But I was serving in army and have many mates on the frontline in 200 brigade of Northern Fleet in Artemovsk ( Ukrainians named it after Bakhmut ) so I have all news from first lips, let’s say. Yes, there are problems in Russian army, but they are way far from what you’ve been told in Ukrainian propaganda and western media, by the way send hello to mister Arestovich, we love his show, always keeps us in shape of good and funny mood.)

@whya2ndaccount 7 ай бұрын

I'm not sure the RAC has enough vehicles to consider a SQN's worth to be "surplus".

@darrencorrigan8505 7 ай бұрын

Thanks, Tank Museum.

@iatsd 7 ай бұрын

Lots unsaid that should have been said. For example, the fact that the *reason* the Ukrainains will have to be careful with their Challenger ammunition is because the UK simply doesn't make it any more and there's no more to be had beyond existing stocks held by the UK and Jordan.

@ianleary5780 7 ай бұрын

From what I've read, electronics store poorly. So the more modern tanks in storage that the Russians would want to use may be in tolerable shape mechanically but not so much so in terms of their electronics. Older tanks in storage won't have electronics to age poorly, but several decades of winters in the open might have ruined them mechanically. I wonder how some of these machines would have fared in storage if they had been parked in sheds to keep the worst of the weather off them.

@ThePurplePassage 7 ай бұрын

There's also the factor of parts embezzlement by Russian officials - the tanks that see the greater number of exports are more likely to have had more demand for spare parts, resulting in cannibalisation for personal profit

@procrastinator41 7 ай бұрын

Good Point 💰

@highjumpstudios2384 7 ай бұрын

Yeah but sheds cost money and I already used the funding I received to buy sheet metal to provide kickbacks for my supply officers.

@ianleary5780 7 ай бұрын

@@ThePurplePassage Absolutely. We'll probably never know how much that has affected readiness.

@ljoe7038 7 ай бұрын

@ficklefingeroffate 7 ай бұрын

Excellent content from Mr. Copson.

@totallymady42069 7 ай бұрын

Well this was a pleasant surprise

@j.f.fisher5318 7 ай бұрын

I've been saying since spring this wasn't going to be fast. The brilliant successes last year were only possible because of Russian incompetence around Kharkiv and the untenable position in Kherson. I haven't expected Ukraine to reach the Sea of Azov. It would take a Russian collapse and expecting that is like expecting to win the lottery as one's retirement plan.

@Zarcondeegrissom 7 ай бұрын

also, a lot of stuff never happened that was discussed last year, like training for F16's for one. so much political feet dragging.

@altratronic 7 ай бұрын

The Ukrainian plan in the south is to destroy as much Russian men and materiel as possible, especially including Russian logistics systems, before committing enough forces for a big push to Azov.

@adamesd3699 7 ай бұрын

Also the Russians were severely low on troop numbers in 2022. Putin basically relied on bluff to win the war in the first few days. The army he sent in Feb 2022 was far too small and under-supplied to win the war if Ukraine fought back, especially as the West flooded Ukraine with weapons, ammo, money, reconnaissance & intelligence, etc. He apparently thought Zelensky would panic when he saw a few hundred tanks and missiles coming at him, and either surrender or run for his life. He probably thought “I’m ex-KGB and he’s an ex-TV comedian, this will be quick!” Obviously that’s not how things turned out. In 2023 the Russians are taking the war much more seriously and are doing better. This is a recurring theme in Russian history. They tend to do badly in the first few months of wars and then begin to get their act together after a year or so. This seems to be happening in 2023 and will probably be much more apparent in 2024. I actually believe Russia will outright win the war in 2024 or early 2025.

@tehgerbil 7 ай бұрын

Yeah you're pretty much right. Russia fumbled the start of this conflict, and then sorted itself out (honestly surprised how quickly they did that, considering the rampant corruption) and has conducted itself pretty successfully since. Without massive commitment (and quality training) we can't expect what is basically a heavily armed militia to remove Russia from its position.

@ryanyoder2694 7 ай бұрын

Russia also had barely mobilized during the offensive last year. Now they have a numerical advantage that only grows more and more.

@Talex-jb8bp 7 ай бұрын

The war currently reminds me of the battles on the western front of World War I because the tanks didn’t have much influence on the battles of World War I either they had some, but it was mainly artillery there, too

@gaptaxi 7 ай бұрын

At first it cleared the German trenches, later they knew how to knock them out, they were a great Propaganda tool for the British, but the reality was quite different, look up Beutepanzer.

@bryangrote8781 7 ай бұрын

I agree. Artillery (and machine gun fire) made it nearly impossible for troops to advance across open ground. Without the tank the troops would never have been able to leave the trenches, but the tanks alone could not win the fight. It took a long time to make tanks effective through new tactics and combined arms. Modern ISR and precision targeting have made tanks less effective and artillery is still doing the biggest job. The same assets making tanks more vulnerable are also making artillery, and everything else for that matter, more vulnerable as well however. Perhaps manned platforms of any kind are becoming obsolete or perhaps more effective counters to drones and missiles will be devised and the trend will go partially back to manned platforms again. There is always a counter to everything. Interesting times.

@bro_dBow 7 ай бұрын

I have seen a report that the south towards Chimea is less subject to mud in the rainy season, is this correct?

@fungunsun1 7 ай бұрын

Yes

@radekmajcher7431 7 ай бұрын

Not if a dam got blown up

@stuartbailey9287 7 ай бұрын

@@radekmajcher7431 Northern part of the Crimea gets so little rain that it is very close to being classed as a desert. Most of the water which turned it into good agricultural land came via canal from the Dnipier river. Following dam being blown up Crimea is not getting that water and so slowly turning back into semi-desert. Not sure if this will have any effect on tanks apart from all the extra dust but its really bad for farming.

@joebidome1445 7 ай бұрын

What about the indirect fire role of tanks? And changes in armor tactics?

@gaptaxi 7 ай бұрын

The 105mm rifled and 120mm can do it very well, the NATO smoothbore 120mm has an extreme range of about 8 Kilometres compared to the 14 Kilometers of the Challanger 2? I am not sure if it is very import as the Ukrainians are already wreaking havoc with drones and Smart 155mm Artillery rounds like Excalibur. But, I think Leo1 will be more usefull than the Leo2 for that very reason, mobile artillery.

@ncormontagne 7 ай бұрын

I think the T-55s case of tanks taking dust and needing to be rebuilt is likely to be the case for the Belgian Leopards. We haven't used them in a while and let them rot in a storage. So, I'm not sure that they're combat ready, even with hefty upgrades

@maxmagnus777 7 ай бұрын

Well the real question should be "are T-55's needed now, today"? If they are needed then they will be upgraded. Who would use them? What role would they be used for? If they are needed as fire support or for militia's they will be sent because those units can adopt them fast and get a lot of practice using them before T-90's replace them.

@Shoelessjoe78 7 ай бұрын

Given a choice you take the leopard every day of the week and twice in Sunday over a T55

@maxmagnus777 7 ай бұрын

@@Shoelessjoe78 Leopard ones were not maintained. It is a piece of junk. There are no spare parts. T-55 were maintained and were kept well. Choose again...

@gaptaxi 7 ай бұрын

The Danes are sending their Leo1A2´s, they have been is use until quite recently. Their rifled 105mm guns can be used very easily as mobile Artillery, much more versatile in fact than Leo2 or even Abrams 120mm smoothbore guns. The Belgian Leopards have always been held in warehouse buildings with the intension of being sold on, most Russian T-55 and T-72 tanks were in fields let to rot. Big, very big difference.

@maxmagnus777 7 ай бұрын

@@gaptaxi most doesn't mean all. I've seen some preserved machinery. You put it deep into oil, split some parts if you have to. It can stay the same for 100 years. I've seen videos of Russians just removing the outer layers of rusted metal from T-72's and replacing a part here or there. Those get restored fast. The problematic T-72's from the start of this war were DPR and LNR tanks. Those were captured from Ukraine in 2015. 4-500 of them. Those were in worst shape. As for the survivability of Leo1 as mobile artillery, well there was already a lot of it in the field. It gets blown away every single day. It vastly inferior to real artillery. If you send them in battle as tanks, they have thinner armor than BMP's. They are outdated. There are videos of T-72's surviving 8 hits and still going. Leo-1 is a laughing stock at this point.

@ritchie799 7 ай бұрын

A brilliant overview and excellent information about the current supply of MBT's. Thank you Chris for your outstanding videos.

@operaatio5117 7 ай бұрын

Well hello!

@jackd1582 7 ай бұрын

Missing info on winged fab 500 and 1500 s AND chopprr ta tics longrange guided sniping

@tedzehnder961 7 ай бұрын

There seems to be too much maneuvering during daylight hours.Tanks out in the open make big targets so ease of observation is another reason for a lot of tanks being taken out other than mines.I hope that Ukraine finds a way to make forward placement of tanks in the dark less dangerous and more of a surprise so they can get the maximum effect from them.

@Ganiscol 7 ай бұрын

A couple weeks ago I saw an interview with a Leopard 2 crew and they specifically mentioned that they use this tank primarily between dusk and dawn due to its excellent night fighting abilities and to protect it from death from above. But that does nothing to mitigate the extremely extensive minefields they have to overcome...

@deixtra 7 ай бұрын

Doesnt matter if its day or night. Infact drones see you better at night... only part of day a tad less dangerious is dusk or dawn

@interpl6089 7 ай бұрын

There are Thermals equipped KA-52s and Mi-28s hovering in the dark...

@blackbird-25 7 ай бұрын

the footage I saw of the challenger being struck was clearly an atgm in the mid RHS. the explosive plume was horizontal. later footage appeared to show the turret displaced and the commanders hatch missing. indicating a possible internal explosion which the crew would not have survived. it is the policy of the RF forces to destroy damaged equipment with follow up strikes so it's not clear from the footage if the tank had already been vacated by the crew. the challenger takes its place alongside Abrams leopard 2s and merkavas that have been destroyed by, probably. kornet atgms I must push back against the general tenor here, the Ukrainian offensive has been a catastrophic failure incurring losses of men and equipment on a scale we can't imagine. As far as I know they have not breached the first defensive line but have suffered this disaster in the forward defensive zone that is actually intended to yield, which it mostly hasn't

@garynew9637 7 ай бұрын

Ukraine is dead in the water. Western idiots governments are either ignoring this or simply don't care.

@lugerun 7 ай бұрын

Mainstream media already acknowledged the offensive failed while only yielding high losses for the afu. Even more hilarious is the 'russia running out of chips (or insert anything else)' myth still getting repeated while also mentioning the ever increasing amount of lancets.

@blaisep112 7 ай бұрын

Oh, and please do not forget about that the AFU is doing its counter offensive without air superiority.

@Dan_TheCatman 7 ай бұрын

INCREDIBLE quality in your videos as always

@domino2560 7 ай бұрын

LMAO

@ljoe7038 7 ай бұрын

@kaymish6178 7 ай бұрын

I think next generation tank upgrades are going to end up with a number of short range radars to compliment active protection systems and help target acquisition. especially any anti drone systems they get equipped with.

@Zarcondeegrissom 7 ай бұрын

or a combination of stuff via "combined arms" yeah.

@Mugdorna 7 ай бұрын

T-80BVM had this. It was too dangerous to be used with friendly infantry nearby. The single prototype was knocked out months sgo.

@v4skunk739 7 ай бұрын

@@MugdornaThere are hundreds of new T-80BVM. They were built / upgraded like 4 years ago.

@davidgoodnow269 5 ай бұрын

"Australian cardboard drones."

@kylespainhower7936 7 ай бұрын

Looks like someone made a video after watching BBC

@adrianjorgensen3750 7 ай бұрын

Everyone keep up the pressure on your governments to keeping the supplies flowing to Ukraine 🇺🇦

@mattw785 7 ай бұрын

Great video. Well researched from the SME.

@duncanself5111 7 ай бұрын

Summer offensive? They must mean 2024 because its now autumn

@samoldfield5220 7 ай бұрын

It was called the Spring offensive when western journalists started crapping on about it in February.

@inisipisTV 7 ай бұрын

Hence, the title Schrödinger’s offensive.

@duncanself5111 7 ай бұрын

@@petert2481 I wasn't being critical, it was merely an observation

@samoldfield5220 7 ай бұрын

@@petert2481 I was being critical.

@ifv2089 7 ай бұрын

How many lepords Ukraine lost so far?

@jordanreeseyre 7 ай бұрын

Clarification: NATO tanks with blow-out panels for ammunition explosions include the Abrams & Leopard 2. Challenger 2 stores all (& Leopard 2 stores some) of its ammunition in armoured bins in the hull, so both tanks are capable & have in the past dislodged their turrets in ammunition explosions.

@cubeh8331 7 ай бұрын

Really like this new guy.

@monatrhaugen9187 7 ай бұрын

What was the first tank that had a fire control system?

@gaptaxi 7 ай бұрын

Chieftain in the 1970´s, I was using the new Laser sight about 1976, I was faster with the .50 Browning to be honest, come a long way since then. The German`s might have an impressive KZfaq Video with a Maßkrug full of beer, but our gun was stabilised just as well.

@ZS-rw4qq 7 ай бұрын

0:01 Nearing its first decade * There, I fixed this for you

@sichere 7 ай бұрын

The Western tanks supplied to Ukraine are not being deployed in a way that they would be if in NATO as they do not have air supremacy. I thought the Tanks supplied to Ukraine were protected by Chobham armour not Dorchester and the T14 Armarta has only been filmed on a training sortie well inside Russia but reported as Ukraine

@gaptaxi 7 ай бұрын

Chobham was the earlier version on Challenger 1 IIRC? The UK offered Chobham and Dorchester to the UK to use them on Abrams. What are Allies for? ;)

@interpl6089 7 ай бұрын

Armata was in Ukraine tested in indirect fire, it was later moved from the line.

@sichere 7 ай бұрын

@@interpl6089 Nope

@davidgoodnow269 5 ай бұрын

It could be both; if the new 125 mm gun is as-claimed it could be well inside Russia and firing field-test missions across the border.