Lolz

😂

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@@yfelwulf cool. Nobody was discussing any M1 Abrams? Go home russian troll, you are drunk (no surprise there)

@@yfelwulf ok Putler's pet.

Eastern European things

It's called battlefield inoculation, making training as realistic as possible. But he was pushing it a bit!

And he got the gun caught up in his own gear. Total friggin idiot. Two hand on the weapon when firing. FFS, he needs retraining himself.

Teaching war, making men tough can't really be done in a pilates class.

​@mirandahotspring4019 who tf handing 1 hand when your enemy literally infront of you?

Training is irrelevant when it comes to force disparity. No amount of training will save soldiers from FPV drones or land mines.

​@thelwulfofnorhymbraland2333 I don't know how you figure that out. Mines and drones can't occupy territory, so they are limited. The last I checked the object of war was to occupy territory. 😂

@@AethelwulfOfNordHymbraLand2333 people survive those mines and drones, guess you don't want the training to save them? xD

🇷🇺 🇷🇺 🇷🇺

How do you avoid being detected and targeted by FPV drones striking troops at 80mph?

I just like how the Sun has blurred out the Swastikas painted on the turrets by the Ukranians for this video.

Yes and don't drive through a ditch where there are reeds, it's a tank NOT a ship ;)

@@dellawrence4323The blurring was done to cover up the unit number. If I had my way, Russian trolls like your self would be banned from KZfaq.

Hard to do when all of Ukraine is low lying!

Avoid low lying areas, you say? That's pretty much the entire Ukraine. I think you're right 😂

This is camera stunt, they move them faster.

@@stevem2323And you know this how?

@@Assimilator1 Basic logic and knowledge based on what i saw until now about them.

😂

@@TheB1nary What's so funny? They are right.

@@Stigstigster Its a russian troll. They smile when they hear something that is negative for Ukraine.

it's just tall grass, no one will look around if they are under fire, and visibility in the tank is limited, I think it was too heavy for this terrain, just like the German tigers during World War II, they had a problem with this land, when it was wet after the winter, and the fact that the C2 is old does not matter, much older tanks are fighting there

Even the Brits didn't have any real good use for this Challenger Behemoth. So that's why they got rid of them by donating them to the Ukrainians. Very generous of the Brits I'm sure but they are as obsolete as battleships. That's why the Ukrainian Army has focused on the Bradley, the "little old tank that could". The Ukrainians are not fighting the war as per "western tactics" because this war is very different from previous conflicts.

Dw, if it did happen they wouldn’t have posted the vid on KZfaq.

Was thinking the same. Dude was holding a rifle by one hand and basically dangling it while holding down the trigger. Seems dangerous. Unnecessarily dangerous.

Ukraine is at war, no serving cups of tea in Ukraine duting live fire....their at war realism is everything

Why bother building dragon's teeth? Overhyped western tanks can't cross a field. They only win in jingoistic western propaganda.

i do like the "this is the problem the challenger 2 has" and then like another challenger 2 just doesnt get stuck xD the problem is they treat em like the t series of tanks which are much lighter

Or was the slow speed deliberate to get stuck so they could practice recovery technique?

@@davidgee1451 nah the driver was just an idiot.. hell the entire crew were stupid

Is Mr. Hewes some extremely rich 25 year old? Does he come from old money? Or does his dad or grandpa own the operation? Also, Ted is a cool tabk dog.

@@KirkHermary Not really, his dad started collecting military vehicles when they were worth scrap and he decided to restore one of them - a rare beach recovery vehicle. Fitter Matt (a friend of his) documented this and Mr. Hewes was able to turn that into a business restoring old military vehicles, then he started a KZfaq channel to increase his reach. His is lucky in a sense that his dad owns a farm with lots of outbuildings he can uses, but he's not rich or made of money. And neither is his dad, he's just an average if eccentric British farmer.

@@ckm-mkc If i'm not wrong then i think they're also being funded by a museum now

Yeah. I remember him. He came through our town when all the rioting was on (The Tories put up anti-tank pillars on Westminster Bridge (they are still there), fearing a civil war)!

@ckm-mkc thanks for the intel!

if its tracks are not on hard ground it becomes a 60 ton boat in the mud with a 1000 HP engine that cannot help.

They have to be careful in the spring thaw. That recovery tank knew what to do.

In Minnesota we say "stay out of the rhubarb"

sometimes i wonder if the Ukrainians remember anything theyve been taught?

Not bulrushes , that was the remains of a corn field after harvesting

It should be standard that they are training with engineering vehicles and tows and what not, that is standard for armoured warfare

50% of bridges in Ukraine are impassable for 50 ton vehicles. especially in rural areas. Western tanks spent more time breaking down on the road than fighting. this is the reason why the t64, t72 , t80 and t90 only weigh 38-46 tons. while challenge 2 weighs 75 tons.

@@carkawalakhatulistiwa There is no way you are talking about Western tanks breaking down when the T-14 Armata broke down during a parade and uses the old SLA.16 engine used in the Tiger 2 during WW2

so much of technology still not able to hold onto an inch of land, you need to change your leader zelensky, he is a failure

maybe its not yet been told its spreading democracy

Yes, any tank gets stuck. But one is in a quagmire and the other is in a children's sandbox

At least you get stuck in the best soil in the world. Black earth!

Yeah, any tank can get stuck. But I'd assume the Russian type tanks, which are like 15-20 tons lighter, probably can cross slightly more difficult terrain before they get stuck, just because of the physics of ground pressure. Its all tradeoffs with tanks.

This is training so the crew are there to learn. Hopefully they learn from this so it doesn’t happen on the battle field.

@@Buttmunch284it wont make a difference

The crew is getting their experience here. Everybody says tanks should drive fast over these muddy spots, but how fast, exactly? One can only find out by going too slow.

I also think it was deliberate, to prove a point and to train the guys. I think Britain is getting good feedback from an active battle-zone for its equipment without risking britt. lives. If they are smart they will take note and improve

There is no safe.. drones are far more deadly for a tank

I think the ruzzians are busy with the paperwork for checking in, in hell.

imagine being 40km away and getting sniped by a cheap drone or artillery round

Owh you believe this ?

@@blacksheep7874sure

commander/driver is responsible for picking which route is best for the tank

Isn't the turret supposed to be facing backwards when attempting this?

@@toxicdoguk why would that make any difference, shall i open my sunroof when going through some mud in my car

if you don't know you, you don't know simple. 😂

It was probably done deliberately as part of the training exercise.

The Suns Jerome Starkey Cope Posts.

That's why I gave it a thumbs down.

@@JZsBFF 👍🏻 Sun Propaganda Misinformation and conspiracy theories

Cause it is not a real Leopard. That's what happens when you imitate but don't duplicate true power

​@@user-wh1dm6bc9kу вас танки либо для городского боя, либо парадные. Гусеничная система и сами танки не предназначены для ведения боевых действий не настабильном грунте. Со второй мировой прошло почти столетие, а вы ничему не научились, поэтому будете биты.

@@user-wh1dm6bc9k It's a Challenger 2 not a Leopard. It's straight from the UK army just with previous generation reactive armour.

@@user-wh1dm6bc9k we don't need a child tank we know what we want and will stick with it, it's the only tank to be unbeaten while in the hands of it's maker. So yes not a weak and pitiful leopard.

I am assuming that the detractors of the Challenger would prefer a lightweight ruzzian tank...

You would would think the lesser armored Leopard 1 tank would be a boon to Ukraine due to it's light weight,agility, high forward and reverse speeds, and great optics and fire control. The best thing about it is it can get around better in snow and muddy conditions.

Really, the Challenger should be able to cope with the conditions. It may have coped fine in the desert, but it was actually designed to combat the Warsaw Pact and its "battleground" would have been central and eastern Europe.

​@@chrisaskin6144yes, in mainland Germany, where bridges and roads are designed for western tanks, not the mud and bridges in Ukraine.

Before the ukrainian counteroffensive all western tanks where gamechangers!! But after meeting with the real world "western tanks are not build for bad road" and drive very good on paved road!! 🤣🤣 Maybe thats the reason when the leopards get destroyed the americans say that their tanks must not be used in "dangerous zones"!!!! So maybe better keep all that heavy metal and send it by mail to the Crimean beach!! So you are sure it will arrived!! Better stop this killing!! Or why you not let the people from crimea luhansk and donbass not voting for what they want!? And if you really want the ukrainian governement wins, they have volunteer brigades!!! So buy a ticket and go look to this war!! I give you on a paper!! "One month and you are back home crying about nightmarries or dead"!! Believe me the west is a joke!! Look around and tell me what you see!! We are less like one percent from what grandfathers fought in the same type of war 110 years ago!! And thats exact the reason why the ukrainians fight to hard! Because the Russians and ukrainians they had the same "WAY OF LIFE"!! And as a 52 years old belgium guy and married for years with my Russian wife, so yes, i understand little more their way of life! We westners we must stop thinking other countries must live like we live!! It is their problem! And if we not sponsered this war it was over after max 2-3 months even after 14 days if Boris johnson not went to Turkey! And yes!! ukraine get (back) a pro russia governement!! But now it is a pro western!! so maybe it was not so bad to split after 8 years fighting for donbass!!

Underpowered? Its the fastest tank in the world on rough ground so its not underpowered at all😂 not fastest on roads

so much of technology still not able to hold onto an inch of land, you need to change your leader zelensky, he is a failure

Truly idiotic

Really dangerous and could easily have gone horribly wrong.

How would it gone wrong they were simulating being under heavy contact so they would have drilled it multiple times so that they are not going to put there heads up also they are training drills they have been in the war since beginning maybe 10 years!

@@NotaSheopleIt would have gone wrong if the weapon had discharged when the DS had it pointed DIRECTLY AT the recruits in the trench doing the training. He didn't have full control of the muzzle because he was waving the gun around with one hand.

В России пословица - танки грязи не боятся.

Судя по всему, дроны им тоже не страшны.

@@ricky_pigeon вот дранов все боятся🤣

Not for a good crew and driver!

For some more than others, and don't talk like you don't know it.

look at the earthy fields, it all turns into mud after rain. Think for one second, where you wanna drive if you get stuck everywhere😂

Correct... but also... not correct... Yes most tanks would of got stuck in that... But the C2 IS too heavy. C3 is 5 tons lighter (without additional armour) and has a much more powerful engine for this exact reason.

Situational awareness needs a bit of assistance.

so much of technology still not able to hold onto an inch of land, you need to change your leader zelensky, he is a failure

Our tanks have always been good but its our tank crews that make our tanks stand out. You are 100% right he shouldn't have even tried to drive through that. This is also the reason we don't send tanks out alone.

Yeah, except this is a training ground. They drive into the mud to practice retrieval.

No they do it with Western journalists around so they can say this doesn't work we need better equipment

@@natdizzle4259 Do better or Tsar Puny will send you to Ukraine.

😂😂😂just one detail, this made lower presurre on ground than wheels on cm² area , I think y 're from this great Africa engineer right 😆

Sometimes there are mines and you can not go around. So you have to learn to read the mud before you decide to drive in.

I think more likely they drove in to get stuck on purpose… if they don’t practice getting unstuck how will they know what do on the real battlefield?

@@SJ-pb6jx That sir is a very good point.

​@@SJ-pb6jx😂😂in east T tank just use log

only 1200 hp is indeed underpowered for a heavy tank like this. the leopard 2 has 1500 hp.

So how it should be used if this type of terraine is everywhere in Ukraine?

This tank is not underpowered Chieftain had only 550HP when they first came out, it was a shambles, they should have chosen their ground better!

I reckon that was on purpose, training to remove the tank's if it happens in a battle situation perhaps.

@@gaptaxi compared to other tanks in this weight class it´s underpowered.

The sun,"major news company" 😂

They also said the Challenger 2's are what we have until the Challenger 3's come, the Challenger 2's are becoming the Challenger 3's via upgrade, we're not getting more, we're getting less (afaik not all are being upgraded).

Challenger 2 has the same turret as 1

I mean it definitely has blasted a russian force

Что хорошо русскому- неприятелю смерть. Русская земля всех примет, кого не увезли на кладбище. Время покажет, прав ди автор

@FuriousFire898 I mean, it stopped Russian Artillery round. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Lots of questions. What condition are they in. How much spares and ammo is there. Can new parts and ammo be made quickly. How much will it cost and would that money be better spent elsewhere. Etc etc.

arent they challenger 1?!?

Apparently they are in fairly good condtion and yes they are Challenger 1 however they apparently can be quickly upgraded and sent to Ukraine.

@@hallojutuhb9071 Apparently they are in fairly good condtion and yes they are Challenger 1 however they apparently can be quickly upgraded and sent to Ukraine.

The British, please explain: Do you really want to go to war with Russia? I hope you understand that your games may end up with someone on the planet's hand falling on the red button (and not necessarily in Russia). Mathematically, only people in the USA, Russia, China, Australia and Africa and in some places in South America will be able to survive from large countries. Britain, like most European countries, will burn down completely due to the high population density and the power of nuclear weapons. Of course, the western part of Russia will suffer, but Siberian cities will survive. Why are you bringing the apocalypse closer?

Most tanks in Ukraine are not taken out in tank on tank combat. Artillery, mines, FPV-drones, ATGMs and so on.

@@Fuhrerjehova Yes, I'm speaking about general armor design on a larger scale, as he refers to at the beginning of the report, not just this specific conflict.

It peeves me too. The content is decent enough, so why the lies? More clicks, I guess, but it does seem dishonest.

@@olatronok facts 80% of Ukraine is still under Ukraine control Russia is now spending trillions in a war with just Ukraine when ww2 cost 4 trillion ouch

They don't use them at the front anymore. Crews don't like them as much as the leopards and Abrams as the power to weight ratio is lower. Eastern European tankers like high mobility. Challenger is the wrong tank for this conflict

Which was basically the same gun and fire control system as late model Chieftain!

@@FrontSideBus correct!

why dont we send them our chieftans we got in storage then?@@FrontSideBus

@@Ickie71 There are barely enough spares to keep Challenger 2 operational, never mind a load of Chieftains that were sold off to farmers 30 years ago and which no new spares have been made since. The best thing would be to get the 400 Jordanian Challenger 1's that have recently been withdrawn from service.

ive just read about that too yeah i totally agree with you im sure our jordanian "friend" wont argue too much about this once approached eh?@@FrontSideBus

Compared to the WW2 tanks Ruzzia is using, it is.

Russia is not using WW2 tanks. Why lie? Cant you make a genuine observation?@@JC130676

@@o3tg2w35t Did their brillant tanks already arrive in Kiev?

Don't go thinking Ukraine is patchwork of green fields like most of England. There are large expanses of marsh and boggy moorland like in the video. Looks as if Challenger will have to wait for Summer before it sees action proper!

Funny you should say that..... Cause American tanks did drive _out_ of the ocean in WW2! Course, those were 30-35 ton Shermans, not 64+ ton MBTs.... But yes, you are right. Modern MBTs have limitations, soft, muddy terrain, is definitely one of them.

@@dposcuro Yes the Sherman 'Funnies' developed by one Major-General Sir Percy Hobart. Except the Americans ignored instructions and dropped their amphibious DD Shermans too far off the beach and they sank in the bigger swells or were just carried down the landing sites in the currents off Omahq.

​@@windymiller6908до лета их не останется в живых😅

@@_mexvod Right on man! 😉

Thats the problem, these guys are used to tanks that are half the weight, it's understandable they get stuck where a Russian tank would not. But Russian tanks also get destroyed a lot easier because they are half the weight, so take your pick of problems.

Many bridges are not designed to weigh more than 50-60 tons.

Because their trash engines can’t move more weight

@@nickbreen287 FVP drone doesn't care what kind of frontal armor you have, everything is destroyed easily. and the T90 is not much weaker in defense than Western tanks

Russian tanks are made for real world warfare and solving problems! 😅 Challenger II is advertising piece for computer tank games or game console, which in the real world was easily destroyed in the first real war it faced and gets stranded in the mud or breaks down due to its weaknesses!

Западные производители и западные комментаторы понятия не имеют что такое танк )))

to stop someone getting to its underbelly?

@@dave20thmay no it's lower, provides a smaller target

That's not Hull down mate , that's belly down in soft ground, too boggy, not the tanks fault, that is controlled by input from the Commander and driver, if in doubt, get out, check.

Offends the Muslim viewers

A crew on a training exercise who need to learn recovery drills?

Really.? In combat they would have been a sitting duck. Better to learn not to get stuck in the first place. @@BigVeez

​@@BigVeezThat would be one expensive training course.

@@capmultser It doesn't really work like that. "Make sure everything goes to plan" is not a contingency strategy.

In frontline you will not drive on the grass because off milions off mines so what would be point off training

Flat Battery Issues due Cold Weather though. Only good in Deserts

Yea why train in the same type of terrain that your going to fight in! LOL that's Ukraine!

Ttouble is there's lots of similar terrain in Ukraine

It doesn’t weigh 70 tons That’s the bridge classification Not the weight of a CR

@@jameslynch7826 With the extra armour it weights more than 70 tons and they added it!!!

actually it was awful and full of errors, challenger 2 isnt underpowered at all. Any tank would get stuck going into that ditch, thats poor driving and commanding. Plenty of exercises in similiar conditions and the challenger has never had an issue with being too heavy.

what freedom? we dont have any. we cant even call ourselves a democracy anymore. what world are you living in?

so much of technology still not able to hold onto an inch of land, you need to change your leader zelensky, he is a failure

foolish statement ??

​@@nouka72 Tell me, how tasty are the boots in your country?

We don't value freedom. The lockdown proved that.

Keyboard tank crews :-) A few of us have the knowledge.

I've served in warthunder, warthunder mobile, and World of Tanks on both platforms, too. I have also served in world of battleships on both ps4, mobile, and pc. I've seen things man. Things you wouldn't believe. When matchmaking goes fubar and you're in a t1 bucket against a stacked team of t6's, you'll know what real combat is, son.

The Leopards don't. The Chally is heavier but has a weaker engine (1200 hp vs. 1500 hp). It's a disadvantage that's been known for decades but nothing has been done to fix that.

i mean nearly all tanks have recovery vehicles

It's mud season in Ukraine

Тебе нужно получать профессорскую зарплату за такие знания. Буду голосовать чтобы тебя сделали министром обороны Украины.

In the age of drones any tank is.

I think they'll just keep the remaining Challengers for making videos like this one away from the front. How many shells do they even have? Very few I imagine.

It's funny to see how some will just say anything to cope.

actually the challenger 2 isnt under powered, did you not watch the video? a challenger 2 weighs like 60 tons, so that challenger 2 which pulled the other one out the mud? that engine was dealing with 120 tons its not underpowered.

It’s not installed on them…

Challenger, Abrams and probably Leopard was stripped back to stop the armour technology getting into enemy hands

Challengers have never been seen even near the frontline, yet ukrainians have already lost 7 out of 14, lmao. All you need to know about how horrible this tanks are.

Британские танки хороши когда используются для войны с арабами в коричневых тапочках. Как только пошла война с Россией, выяснилось что британские танки просто смешны. Главная характеристика танка это их количество.

Why bother building dragon's teeth? Overhyped western tanks can't cross a field. They only win in jingoistic western propaganda. The "Excellent" tanks weren't built for a real war - just for regime change, sorry "democracy" spreading in poor countries which pose no threat. Your tanks don't even have anti-personnel shrapnel ammunition. They are duds.

@@MrMursilok at least they don't throw their turrets 200 metres in the air when an enemy looks at them :))))

so much of technology still not able to hold onto an inch of land, you need to change your leader zelensky, he is a failure

He literally said "Leopard 2"

No at 0:49 he said first leopard 1... a "modern" mbt from the sixties...

There are leopard 1 modernized versions you bot

@@tobi2233 shut up kid... when I was in the army we had leopard 1 and I know that in today's battlefield is almost useless especially with the 105mm cannon and 70mm front armour Even with mexas additional armour it's still too vulnerable...

But they won the war in Ukraine twice already, in World of Tanks that is...

Surely, the pressure the tank exerts on the ground matters more than the absolute weight of the tank? Pressure = Force (the "weight" of the tank) divided by track area in contact with the ground I've noticed Russian armoured vehicles tend to have quite narrow tracks, so, for an equivalent weight and assuming a similar length of track in contact with the ground, will exert more pressure and, therefore, sink deeper into mud. If, as you say, the T72 is half the weight, it probably exerts less pressure, so will have an advantage in deep mud. The Scorpion light tank (I thought the UK had donated its entire stock to Ukraine?) is reputed to exert less ground pressure than a soldier. There are stories of soldiers jumping off Scorpions and sinking deep into mud the Scorpion itself drove straight over.

With the ground in question here, any tank would get stuck, including much lighter ones like T-72 etc. The reason is partly to do with ground pressure but mainly to do with the mud being extremely soft and, more importantly, deep enough to make the hull bottom out, regardless of the vehicle weight. Unless a tank is effectively on stilts, to the point that the hull doesn't bottom out before the ground becomes firm enough, it would get stuck there... I watched a T-84 in Poland litterally dissappear under water in a ditch after the chally went through it... why because the driver slowed down and didn't fully commit because of the depth of the mud and water... Training is key and thats the time to make mistakes and learn as to not repeat it again... 1st rule: Avoid ... 2nd rule: If you must then momentum is key, go hard or get stuck

polish soldiers also did some exercise on 6th march when they crossed their mates on a vehicle

?Don’t recall anything about challengers being pulled out of Ukraine and the Russians have lost thousands of tanks since the beginning of the war.

@@ThemagpieBird734 it’s funny you say they’ve lost thousands they have, but Ukraine has lost near enough all its soviet tanks t64 are none existing t72 a handful left, t80 again minimum or near enough none in stock, meanwhile russia might have lost tanks but it’s still pumping out brand new tanks everyday, new t72b3 new t80bvm new t90m’s I can go on and on and on, meanwhile Ukraine is using the last of its western equipment, russia has lost 10% of its t90’s since the start, Ukraine has lost 15% of its abrams in 1 week? 80 odd leopards 50+ have been destroyed or some captured

Хорошо, что они хорошо горят на полях Окраины ,как и абрамсы

The Abrams was destroyed from the air, not by a tank.

@@johnnyenglish583few Abrams was destroyed in first week of using in battle.

@@dmitryogorodnikov699 yes, but not by a tank. It was hit from the top on the blowout panels of the ammunition storage. If you're saying this was done by a ruSSian tank then it must have been a lucky shot from one of the famous ruSSian flying turrets ;)