Slow drones need slow moving fire platforms to be able to shoot them down. Use an appropriate tool for a problem at hand.

You take me back to my childhood in the war, I remember seeing a Spitfire go low over me and I could wave to the pilot and he waved back. Mind you, I was terrified because I thought it was a German. I remember running with my Dolly pram. I quite often saw doodlebugs particularly the first ones before they put a what was basically a jet engine on the back. We used to crouch down by a wall until you heard the bang of it exploding and then you knew that for moment you were safe to continue. My childhood experiences are why I feel so sad for the Ukrainians, I know what they’re going through.

If the Spitfire had been similar to this thing Britain would have lost the war.

maybe do some more research before you call it a "spitfire-style 1914 airplane"

V1s were shot down by Spitfires, Mosquitoes, Tempests, but not Hurricanes.

'Spitfire style planes' lol , by the Sun's logic almost every light GA aircraft is Spitfire style.

The Ukrainians have lost fighter jets shooting down drones, partially due to the performance mismatch. The stall speed of a Mig 29 is faster than a drone can fly. That can make intercepting the drone hard. The Yak 52 is much closer in performance envelope. They need to figure out an add on sensor system to help find the drones though. Something like a FLIR camera or that small radar system the USA is adding to our SHORAD-M striker variants.

This guy talks some rubbish. This is a great training aircraft and can fly slow enough to shoot down drones. First flew in 1976 and still used now.

There are 3 types of drones. _THREE TYPES._ There are unarmed recon drones, armed recon drones, and armed attack drones. This is so important because a recon drone can have limited attack ability. This means that 2/3rds of military spec drones can kill you. This is why the Ukraine front line is currently almost WW1 era and why old WW2 planes need to hunt down drones in the first place. This is why Ukraine is trying to find low cost kinetic anti-aircraft weapons that use machine guns to defeat cheap DJI systems instead of million dollar missiles.

Cmon ... I play games all day and people at the sun calling yak 52 a spitfire style aircraft? 👁️👄👁️ It didn't even shoot the drone

This guy saying the Yak-52 is from WW1 is insane.....

Ukraine is the global example of morality and humanity. We need their example more than ever before.

It's an unarmed radial-engine post-ww2 trainer that has nothing to do with the Spitfire except for having a propeller.

You may not want a "sniper" in an aircraft but an "air-gunner" as they are not the same skill set. My late father was particularly effective in the back seat of a Lancaster but pretty hopeless with a rifle.

What an insult to the Spitfires, this flying crate barely stays in the air. Fire the one who made the title.

Drone on drone combat can’t be far away.

this isnt even close to a spitfire

He's an Air Marshall? Clearly knows little about props - the Yak 52 is a trainer, great power to weight ratio and most definitely not of the WW1ilk.

A lot of countries use propellor planes nowadays. Especially for asymmetric warfare, e.g. fighting guerilla fighters. Fighting drones is just a novel task for these planes.

Spitfire-style? Rude...

Spot on. Good to hear the Air Marshal's assessment. I have flown a number of fighters, and believe me, it is hard to hit a target with a gun mounted to an airplane. Even harder when it is flying. And the drones are small. And plenty of them. Continue to innovate, we cannot shape a future without having a proper cost-effective defence against drones.

I've been wondering when The Ukraine would start using WW2 fighter like planes to shoot down drones.

It is definitely not WW1 style and is definitely not a Spitfire “style” plane. You’d think as journos you’d do your research but… I guess not 🤣🤦‍♂️

This makes a lot of sense. Jets overtake slow-moving drones too quickly, but propeller driven planes have more time to acquire them.

I must admit, I did not expect a high quality report of this level from the Sun. So there goes my prejudgments....

The YAK52 is NOT a Spitfire-style aircraft. Not even close. A basic trainer. Nothing wrong with that - trainers are essential. But definitely not in the same class as a Spitfire.

This is not a Spitfire type aircraft. It is most comparable to either the Harvard or the American version the Texan. Both were WW2 trainer aircraft.

Literally...

Those are nothing like Spitfires, other than both have propellers.

WHAT?!? A Yak52 is nothing like a Spitfire.

"of". Blown out *OF* the sky.

Wow......never thought this day would come

Wonderful story from Bagwell. Thank you .

YAK 52 has been used as a handy aerobatic aircraft. Not in the same league a Extra's, but not as expensive either. The 'tipping' of the V1 actually caused the internal Gyro to topple, and the poor thing no longer knew which way was up, never mind change its course, so gravity took over pilotage.

I was thinking this a couple of weeks ago,something like an AN2 Colt armed with PKM machine guns,AN2 has great legs and the right speed, maybe not a great gun platform for air to air but they are plentiful

History doesn't exactly repeat itself, but it's surprising how much it rhymes.

Cost and effectiveness. If a drone is cheap and effective, brilliant. If a drone is costly and effective, that too is good; for the droner (no so for the dronee ...) I used to think about training marksmen to knock down drones ... why not just recruit duck-hunters and other such? (That would indeed be win/win, no?)

I wonder if a falconry could be hired to introduce a flock of golden-eagles trained specifically to hunt drones in exchange for food.

A Well presented historical contex!

You need a slow plane to shoot down a slow drone...as my grandmother used to say

Guess World War II era planes still have some use.

Hi Folks, His mention of fighters flipping V1 rockets is not really accurate. There was not contact. The air pressure change from a fighter's wing close to the V1 wing would set it off course.

The only thing humiliating here is Ukraine doesn't have enough modern war planes, so they have to resort to WW2 planes. Anyone with half-a-brain would expect that a big plane with machine guns is capable of shooting down small drones with no protection against machine gun fire

In which The Sun vividly illustrates the Circle of Life.

ww1 style planes had the double wing stack style...lol..i agree with the title of this video...they do look more like spitfires...

WWII spitfire style Except it's a trainer designed in 1976, great research team there.

Wouldn't it be easier to just make dones that hunt drones

Wouldn't it be more of a Yak 'style' aircraft than a Spitfire 'style'?

He sure loves that word "relatively"

“Spitfire style” bruh the Yak 52 has literally nothing in common with a Spitfire except that it has wings and a prop

Almost everyday the Ukrainians leave me open mouthed with their ingenuity

Put 21st century avionics and AGM's on any WW2 fighter and you get formidable scouting and CAS attack aircraft.

War, war never changes

Comparing the Yak-52 to a Spitfire is like comparing a VW Beetle to a Maserati. The Spit exceeded 400 mph, fast enough to catch up with a V1 Buzz Bomb and flip it with its metal constructed wing. The Hurricane, older and slower, with a mostly fabric covered wing and fuselage, couldn't go fast enough for that trick and the wing definitely wasn't strong enough to flip a V1's wing.

These aircraft are like Chipmunks not high performance WW2 fighters!

My father was both a champion wing shot ( shotgun ) and rifle and machine gun. Ended becoming command of first nz WW2 sniper squad!

Drones have greatly change the worth/value of tanks in battle from here on out.

Spitfire-style planes? How stupid are the people that work at your company?

The aircraft has fuel and oil systems permitting inverted flight for as long as two minutes. The engine drives a two-bladed counter-clockwise rotating, variable pitch, wood and fiberglass laminate propeller. At 998 kg (2,200 lb) empty weight, the Yak-52 is responsive and very capable as an aerobatic aircraft. 🇺🇦😎👍🏼

"There's basically only 2 types of drone, taking pictures or long range kamikaze"

Did you notice how many times he said liturgy? More than 401 times.

War Birds never die. We are seeing a full circle.

Spot on

Not dumb, using slow maneuvering aircraft is an excellent idea. wonder if there a few Argentinian IA-58 Pucara available.

Very knowledgeable Gentleman! Thank you Sir!

Human snipers sound pretty awkward in the air I think. It might be better to use autonomous machines that can adjust their aim based on the inputs from various sensors.

the only thing "spitfire style" about that slow moving trainer is it has a propeller and wings and a tail

You provided a good summary of the evolution of flight in WWI. In the case of drones in Ukr keep suggesting adding a rope/wire "tail", approximately like a kite tail. Then the "attacking" drones flies above and in front of the target, letting the tail tangle in the props. An/or add hooks to "trip"/unbalance the enemy drone.

Anti Aircraft was famously moved for cities to the coast to combat V1s. The then recently US produced proximity fuse helped. The allied aircraft would then fly in zones beyond the Anti Aircraft fence. "Kent became known as "Bomb Alley"". This was known as layered defence. Of course ground attack & spotters for launch sites were also utilized.

That looks nothing like a spitfire! it looks more like stuka.

thats crazy

"They went back in time" Israeli soldiers: "hold my beer" ** roll out the trebuchet **

How hilariously desperate and ineffective.

The YAK isn't a spitfire style aircraft. It's not as fast. It doesn't have guns and it's over 30 years younger. The spitfire was a high performance interceptor. The YAK is a popular trainer. If ya don't wanna sound stupid, just say that Ukraine is using modified Romanian trainer aircraft to engage Russian drones.

This is actually a very effective way to combat slow flying drones. faster aircraft will stall trying to slow down to chase them

has nothing in common with a spitfire other than they are both propeller driven airplanes, as far as I can see.

OV-10 with a 30mm cannon in a belly turret. The 30mm cannon can employ airburst ammunition, so it doesn't even have to be that close. A single sortie by an aircraft of this type can knock down dozens of drones.

Man, we've really only brushed the surface of what drone warfare is going to be. We haven't seen a piece of equipment upset the balance of warfare like this since like the invention of smart bombs - and at 1/400th the price.

If I was in World War Two, they'd call me Spitfire!

The only problem with this story, which is what it is, is that these drones fly slower than the aircraft they claim to be using. As far as the quadcopters, this is a joke right ?

Sooo many experts here 😂

HAY MAN WAR IS WAR ! TIME DOESN'T MATTER , WINNING ! WINNING MATTER'S !😊

Maybe Ukraine could get some Warthogs to join in the fun.

There's a squadron of about ten YAK-52 aircraft that base themselves on an airstrip in the township you can see in my channel header image. They do tight formation aerobatics on many days over the summer, mostly directly above the beaches and often with smoke trails to really jazz things up.

Wooden planes gonna be maken a comeback eh

Credit where credit is due. Most V1's were shot down by Hawker Tempests, which could catch a V1 in level flight.

At the risk of showing my age, what you are seeing is a poor mans AC130. Initiated in Vietnam aboard an old WWII era two motor cargo plane

You do, what you’ve got to do. Whatever works is better than nothing.

This is very cool of the UAF!!!!!! Chinese version of the YAK-52, the CJ-6 was armed with two 7.62 machine guns. Now, that was probably only effective for primary and initial cadet "Introduction to Aerial Weapons" training to demonstrate the concept of "Aiming Lead" and to show Cadets. In practice, without a full stabilised targeting computer with a HUD display. It is actually very difficult to hit another aerial target!

Prop engine World War 2 era planes... I am so reminded of Dusters / Light Fighters air unit from Advanced Wars Days of Ruin / Dark Conflict.

It makes absolute sense to use Yak 52 or similar aircraft to intercept drones in areas far from the front. And mind you, those trainers are brilliant for the task, because of their performance envelope. They are not slow, but they CAN fly slowly. And let's be real, there is no necessity for dogfight capabilities, as drones won't do any fancy manoeuvring, nor will they be able to shoot back. (adding such capabilities would make the drones much more expensive and heavy) Also, trainers are rather forgiving, meaning you don't need flight aces to operate them and most pilots are already familiar with its performance and operating procedures. This may also be something that the NATO partners should look into... It wouldn't be so difficult (and rather costeffective) to refit Cessna 172 or Beech Bonanza or Baron with light machine guns or even .50 Cals. A step up from piston-engines would be turboprop trainers like the Orlik or PC-9. Or counter-insurgency aircraft like Embraer's Tucano. This way Ukraine could more cost effectively maintain a wider and tighter defensive rings around critical infrastructure.

No the Yak isn’t rudimentary, it’s a superlative piece of aviation excellence. It’s not a “basic” trainer, you setup to a yak, then move onto to trainer jets, or jets

if it can stop a first gen cruise missile then a pissy little drone shouldnt be a issue and bullets are cheaper than rockets.

Might be an usefull role for SAAB 105 trainer/light attack craft to fullfill?.

There's so much progress in terms of drones & Mini boats and the robot mine dropper during this war it's crazy. The Ukrainian people are pretty innovative.

Ah yes that’s where the real experts gather. At the Sun KZfaq channel. Good Lord

I think we all know what is really humiliating about this video and it's title

Send in the mosquitos!

Spitfire style planes ??? The only thing they have in common with the Spitfire is that they are a low wing mono plane, thats where any simularity ends !!!

Some irony in what’s old is new