Thank you very much, Clark!

LOL the first time it was WAY too heavy for me, I'll admit. I cut it WAY down the second time around and updated my Google doc to reflect the changes. Ya live and ya learn!

Not necessary to use The Lord’s name in vain. He is The Lamb Of God. He was sacrificed to offer you and me salvation. He is risen from the grave and He is alive. Praise the name of Jesus.

@@JMH-jj6we That does not upset me when people use my name for emphasis (in vain) as i said before love and compassion, please try to not judge others for me - that is my job, and that i love you regardless ;)

Lol, I know but I can't take my eyes off the zipper.

thank you :) ..and awesome! glad it was helpful!

Thanks! Haha I bet!! … I'd say it's more of backpacking, though, which is a little more intense than "camping" in my eyes… nowadays camping comes with a cooler, running water and an air mattress lol! Not carrying everything and only what you need to survive and being SOL if you don't have something… ok, ok maybe not that extreme since there is a village and all, but you know what I mean! Backpacking is serious business mister! ;p lol

YES! Definitely, pack light!

tonR8 thanks!! :)

You're welcome!! Oh yay, that will probably be great weather! Thanks for the suggestions. I will definitely check those out! I'm always looking for a way to make my pack lighter and I definitely wouldn't mind having more food options :)

You're welcome! :) ...and see about going with a third party! I am supposed to make a second video on more info for Havasu Falls, but that's definitely an option if you can't get a permit.

We did finally decide to go with a third party since we found out that the lodge is already booked till end of November 2017 !! I kept trying to call the number for campground booking but they never seem to pick up so in the end we gave up going by ourselves. Again, thank you for this video. I saw plenty of other videos on youtube for Havasu falls but it turned out to be just a bunch of people posting video of themselves looking cool at Havasu falls lol.

Rash N they have a website now that you can easily use to book. I was on the phone for 7 hours straight and no one answered. the next day I found the website and booked.

The Hiking Tejano thank you!

Thanks! …and you know what, I've never used my taser (thankfully/luckily), but I've always had the suspicion that it won't really do much anyway so thanks for the advice! I will probably just get a stronger spray for next time or something, I've heard wasp spray is super gnarly lol.

manickone aw thanks! Glad I could help :)

Thank you for the compliment! I appreciate it :) ... To be honest I am not sure that dogs are allowed, I know that it says on their website that you can not have dogs in the lodge so I want to say I don't think they'll be able to stay at the campgrounds either (I think this is mainly because they have their own that roam freely in the village and they can be very aggressive, I've seen that first hand) so you may want to contact the tribe to verify. IF you do/can take him, definitely get him quality hiking boots!! Carry plenty of water for him and maybe a hands-free leash. I would only take your dog if he's experienced and can hike 20+ miles over a course of 2 days with ease. I would also take something for protection because as I mentioned, their dogs can be aggressive! As far as trip length I would say 3 days is plenty. We did 3 nights and 4 days and, personally, I would not do a trip longer than that. If you don't take the helicopter you're looking at a 10-mile hike one way. The hike is 8 miles to the village from the trailhead and then an additional 2 miles from there to get to the campgrounds. Not including the mileage to get to the different waterfalls (Mooney, Beaver, etc.) I went in the middle of July. It was very hot but it wasn't unbearable given you're pretty much wet all day, it was at night that I struggled mostly because I do not like sleeping when I'm hot; it felt like I was in a furnace. I would say May and even beginning of June would probably be your best bet. Anything after that and through August is going to be blazing! You're welcome! Happy to help :)

dee comas I said in a comment how funny it was hearing how to make a packing list; then talking about MREs. Brings back the MCT 29 grass days ! Lol . RAh

I’m bringing my black lab I went up 5 years ago and driving up their today

Thank ya! and you're welcome!! ... Yes, it is easy to follow. There isn't really a 'trail' in some spots, but the hike pretty much leads you to where you need to go, hard to explain, but I wouldn't worry about that at all :)

Glad it was helpful! Yes, it's two miles one way, so four miles round trip. There is a cafe in the village where I believe they do sell greasy food, lol, but I have no idea on their hours so maybe ask when you arrive. The prices of the cafe I'm not sure of either because I didn't eat there, but the convenience store and the Sinyella store are a little pricey, but not terrible - a small box of watermelon ran $8 bucks, but trust me - once you're there you don't even care about the prices! lol.

Thank you Itzavious!!! I really appreciate the response time.thank you again!!!yea your right I probably won't mind the prices.lol!!! I'm from flagstaff;az.ive been wanting to check out havasu falls for the longest.hoping to make trip out there before it starts getting cold this year.and I will post to your page on my trip if I make out there to let you know how it was for me.thanks again lady!!🤘🏽🤘🏽whoop whoop!!! To you from this Juggalo.late✌🏽✌🏽

Check out my other video, there's some tips there :)

Awesome! The helicopter is separate and is optional. You can take it into the village and hike 2 miles down to the campgrounds or you can hike the full 10 miles. You can take the helicopter out of the canyon back up to the trailhead, too. We decided to take it on our way out of the canyon because we had already done the hike in and didn't feel the need to see it again, plus on the way back you'll slowly be ascending and then have to ascend the switchbacks at the very end, which is a lot tougher after you've been hiking 20+ miles already throughout the trip!

Thank you! I bought a cheap one off Amazon and although it worked fine on the trip, it was basically useless after and I believe that is because I used all of the energy from it being wall charged and not the actual solar panel aspect. In all truth, solar chargers are really only meant for emergency purposes or long-term trips. It will still work, of course, but if I were to go camping again I would probably just take a good quality battery pack or two. Here's a great article that lists some of the best battery packs: thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-usb-battery-packs/ They also have an article on solar panel battery packs if you're dead set on getting one of those: thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-portable-solar-battery-pack/

Thank you for the links and thoughts. Seeing your video got me pondering solar options to keep everything topped off but after exploring those links I am back to thinking a hearty USB battery pack will do the trick. I will be charging a couple of Sony Action cams with remotes to document the trip. If you haven't checked out the new action cams from Sony and you do much outdoor stuff they are pretty sweet. If you did pick one up just make sure you get it with the optional remote so you can see what you are recording right on your wrist. We just got back from 4 days of riding dirt bikes in Death Valley and footage is super bueno (video will be posted soon). Linky share back to check out the Sony: www.sony.com/electronics/actioncam/fdr-x3000-body-kit Have a kick ass week!

Solar chargers are shit! On a sunny day in El Paso TX (similar solar index to arizona. My 1amp us b solar charger only puts out about 0.3amp. the solar panel it's about the size and weight of an ipad. Your backpack would need to be full of solar panels to maintain your gadgets. Pre-charged external batteries are much more efficient unless you want to live in the dessert.

you're welcome! All of the heli details are in my other video which is linked in the description :)

Thanks! :) ... In May and up that North temps will definitely vary from day to day, so it's hard to say, but I think it's safe to say that you'll be looking at around 70 degrees with a drop/raise in either direction (it can literally be 61 degrees one day and then 71 the next), lows probably in the 30's.

Awesome thanks!

Briseida Garcia Thank you! They no longer allow day hiking to Havasupai so yes, you will need a permit to camp for at least one night; or you can stay at the lodge. I personally recommend staying a minimum of two nights. This will allow you to hike in and out of the canyon (that's 20 miles alone) and time to see the falls without overly exerting yourself.

Thank you! And that sounds awesome! You guys are going to have a blast!! As far as I'm concerned there are no age restrictions so you all should be good to go :)

The first time I went I took a hiking shoe, but the second time I saved the weight of carrying a second pair and did the entire trip in my Columbia Drainmaker shoes. You'll need a water shoe of some sort anyway so my advice is to double and get one that can be used for hiking as well. If you don't plan on going in the water at all, then I may have a different answer.

Rosie hernandez check out my other video! It’s a Q&A and answers all of those questions and more.

I hiked in my Columbia Drainmaker water shoes and had no problems! You don't need any fancy hiking shoes for this trip (IMO). My friend wore some old sneakers and did just fine. It's not an intense hike, just long so most importantly just make sure they just have good traction, are comfortable and size up!

No clue! I imagine there might be outlets in some of the buildings, like the little cafe, but I didn't go inside so I can't say and not sure if they would allow it. Best thing to do is to just take a good quality compact battery pack.

Love that idea! That's what we did and it worked great! Before anything, though, make sure the helicopter is flying tourists on the day you plan on heading out. The helicopters don't fly on certain days because they're reserved for the natives to use for shipments, etc. So be sure to check the schedule or call them. Once that is figured out I would say everything else is pretty easy. We decided to play it safe and actually headed up to the village around 10pm the night before to get in line, and there were already people there, BUT there's no sign-up sheet until around 8/9am I believe. We had major issues with people freaking out because some people had been waiting since the night before, some since 2 am and some had just gotten there. There was a lot of hostile energy because everyone had to be somewhere, but the helicopter can only fly for so long and it was a matter of who gets to go first. We ended up having to create a sign up sheet ourselves to keep things calm (which the tribe did not end up honoring so that sucked). It can be a tough situation, but my best advice is to literally sit your butt right by the helicopter pad entrance gate (there should be a little metal desk) as that is where they will put the sign-up sheet when it comes. How early you want to get there is up to you, but like I mentioned we went up the night before and people trickled in all night and morning - soon enough there was easily over a 100 people in line. Once we put our names down around 9am (I think) we waited for about 2 hours. Natives get to go first if they need to so that was mostly the hold-up. The helicopter was $80 when we went, $90 if you use a card, so I would just be sure to have a $100 in cash on you for the heli just in case prices change or their credit card machine isn't working or whatever have you. They put all of your belongings either in the "trunk" or in the big ass net the helicopter carries so keep anything you'd be afraid to lose on you in a small bag. Should be fine, but our stuff didn't go on the same helicopter as us. They put everyone's stuff in a big pile and then load up little by little so we had to wait for our bags at the hilltop for a while. If we would have known we would have had at least grabbed our car keys so we could sit in the air conditioning. lol. Sorry this is so long!! Hope it helps :)

Hi! No worries! I really appreciate all the details. We are flying back Sunday so when I checked they do run Sun, Mon, Thurs, and Fri. Yikes...we weren't planning to head over there the night before, would you say that helped being there that early? Like was there a line at least to be able to sign up your names by that time? I was told they dont give out the sign in sheet until around 9 AM but to get there early anyway. I actually called Airwest basically asking if our stuff is going to be with us and he said 40 lbs and when i tried asking if it's 40 lbs per person or 40 lbs total, he sounded confused. So I didn't really get an answer. How long did you guys wait for the stuff to get there? Thank you for all your help!

Ok, cool! Given that the sign-up sheet is ultimately first come-first serve it's probably not necessary for you to go the night before. Although, if people have been there overnight and waiting and you try to sign up before them, they might have something to say to you, but I mean what can you do, ya know. That's the issue we were running into. I don't know, it's really a tricky situation. If it was me and I was going again I would just head up superr early that morning, make sure I sit by the table when I get there (because people will crowd it) and would just enjoy our last night at camp. That's my honest opinion. It might be a long day of waiting if you're not first on the list, but at least you're not hiking 10 miles. On a side note, we went with a group that organized our trip so there were a TON of people there for that event, there could be fewer people there when you go, who knows. All in all, don't worry girl!! You guys will have SO much fun and this will be the least of your worries. Relax and just let it unfold. You will all get out of there eventually haha! It would be 40 lbs per person. We waited less than an hour for our bags for sure. It wasn't terribly long, but a wait nonetheless. You're welcome!

The hike from the hilltop to the village is 8 miles, the hike from the village to the campgrounds is 2 miles, for a total of 10 miles. I believe it took us about 5-6 hours, but we stopped a few times to take our packs off and eat. I would say the campground was full, but it didn't feel crowded. I think that ultimately depends on where you choose to set up. If you use hammocks and choose a spot that is full of trees you'll probably get more people wanting to use the trees, too, obviously. We used a tent so we picked a spot where you could really only fit one group of people. We had someone next to us, but it didn't feel intrusive because there was a tree in between us and no space for a group on the other side. I did notice the farther back you go (towards Mooney) the fewer people were there. They all seemed to congregate or set up camp near the horse stables/water spring, which makes sense to be close, but we didn't mind the short walk for some added solitude.

Awesome! Thanks for the insight :)

Hi Marnix! It definitely does NOT cost 1000 euros per person to go to Havasupai. It is around 100 euros per person (add 25 for each additional day) if you are able to get a permit, which is very hard to do. I recommend you go with a third party. Third parties essentially purchase all of the permits available for a given weekend and then sell them to people as part of a package. It will be about double the cost, but well worth it! I will list some affordable ones here for you: www.granogi.com/book-your-trip www.retreatintolife.com/events/havasupai/ www.wildernessbadass.com/ As far as packing, it is as expensive or as cheap as you want it to be. There are several things I would consider "must have's" such as a good quality backpack, hiking shoes, tent or hammock, etc., but everything else is totally up to you on what you want to bring. If you don't have ANY backpacking gear and need to buy everything for the first time it can get a little pricey. No problem! I'm happy to help and I hope it translates well for you!

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Thanks! Depends on your experience, but I would say at least 1 to 2 months in advance. I slowly started putting everything together so I could see what I was missing, what I needed to buy, etc. If you have the time no sense in rushing it - that will also allow you time to play with the weight of your pack to get it down to the most minimal weight possible.

Thank you! I'm good to go with gear, I did a section hike on the Pacific Crest Trail in April and have backpacked the AT and most of Europe. Getting in pack shape now for this one. Who and when did you talk to about permits, where did you fly into? I'll be flying out of either Baltimore or Philadelphia. All your generous help is much appreciated.

Awesome! Then this should be a breeze for you. I live in Arizona so we drove up to Supai. If you're flying I would recommend flying into Flagstaff (FLG airport). You'll still need to drive to Supai no matter where you fly into so it will cut down your drive by at least 2 hours. Permits are extremely hard to get and go on sale in February, you can call periodically and sometimes they'll have cancellations, or you can try to find people who have extra permits. Otherwise, I recommend you try going with a third party.

Plan A was calling as soon as possible in February, but I'd love to have a plan B. What third party options are there? Also, how crowed is it in late April/early May? FYI, congratulations on your skydive! I use to be a Smoke Jumper/Wildlands Firefighter, 83 jumps was my limit. Sorry for all the questions, but this has been on the bucket list for a long time and trying to do it right.

Good luck! You might be able to get through with persistence. Just depends, but April/May is the most popular time to go. The description on my other Havasupai video has all of the third party info. Thanks! It's super fun!

I used granogi.com last year, but you can search Facebook, Meetup or Eventbrite, too, to see if anyone else is doing a trip down there. I've seen quite a few different ones before.

Unfortunately, no. They don't allow day hiking and it's not recommended because you'd be hiking 20+ miles in one day. You could technically work around the system and take the helicopter into the canyon in the morning and hike out at night, but you would still need a permit to be on their land, which isn't easily acquired. It's just not a good idea overall haha. Too strenuous.

There's a natural spring. You can drink from it if you want, but I would take purification tablets or a filter. Better safe than sorry!

You need a permit to camp there, which you pick up at the village office. If you booked your trip through the Havasupai tribe's website then I imagine what you paid for should include your permits.

itzavious awesome thanks!! I can't wait for my trip!

You'll definitely have a blast! I'm going again in June and can't wait either :)

itzavious I'll be there July 7-11

Hi! I used one I got off Amazon and it while it was fine on the trip, it was useless after and I think that's because the energy we used was from it being wall charged and not the actual solar component. I recommend just taking a good battery pack or two instead. Here's an article that might be helpful in choosing one: thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-usb-battery-packs/

Pooptacular! There's porta potties at the hilltop (at least when we went there were), but if you can't hold it and are prairie doggin, just dig a hole somewhere... or better yet, go in a plastic bag and take it with you so you can flush/toss it in the village (that's what I think you're supposed to do). Totes up to you what you want to do with your night soil!

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I actually don't remember. Definitely stay away from cotton - TBH, just go commando if you're comfortable enough lol

Joshua Price no dog vomit lol he was just licking the blanket and grossed me out! Didn't know he was doing it until I watched the vid back. Such a weirdo. Yuck!

Depending on where you set up, a short walk. There are (I think 5) scattered throughout the grounds.

THANK YOU!

It would depend on your dogs' fitness level, but I'm pretty sure dogs aren't allowed. You can call them to confirm.

lol... he was licking my blanket and I didn't know he was doing it!! Totally grossed me out so I covered him. And needless to say, I had to do laundry once I watched this video back lol.

Actually... Nope!

Yeah, agreed. I updated my doc with items I didn't take the 2nd round. More experienced or 'minimalist' type folks will probably be good with taking less, but it's a good starting place, then can widdle from there :)

Yeah definitely! well I just didn't want to carry too much weight, that last part on the way out is brutal! But I think you have a solid list and some great suggestions about clothing and shoes! I wish I had taken Chaco's because we hiked all the way to the confluence and even though you are crossing several stream, the hike down had some boulder jumping so I recommend shoes with good grip!

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itzavious, and yet it looks so exotic! I'm definitely interested!

Unfortunately, you need a permit to hike to havasu falls so you won't be able to just go and camp in a sleeping bag. If you can't get a permit or find someone else to join (and I'm not sure how you would do that, FB maybe?) then I would look into going with a 3rd party such as granogi.com... or you can also search Facebook, Meetup, Eventbrite, etc. to see if anyone else is hosting a trip down there.

Well, you wouldn't be very smart if you decided to fill it up at the beginning of your hike.

What do you need help with? lol

There is definitely animal abuse down there, it's been going on for many many years. I personally did not see any physical abuse take place, but I did see emaciated, over-worked horses that were loaded with tons of stuff! It was absolutely heartbreaking. I took video and pictures for "evidence" and really only started learning about what was going on during/shortly after my trip. I also refused to use any of the pack animals when I went out of sheer principal and carried my belongings the entire way, it was tough, so I can't imagine what the horses and donkeys are put through. I think people will continue to go to Supai despite the abuse, but I at least hope they will have the decency to not use the pack animals.

Dogs are not allowed.

itzavious what why? I have a ESA license for him. He's a certified dog

itzavious are there ways around this? I can't go if he can't.

I'm not sure why I just know that they aren't. You would need to ask the Tribe if they can make an accommodation, but my guess is that it's too much of a liability - they have village dogs that roam freely and are very aggressive. I have a dog and would ~never~ bring him for that reason alone. I've personally seen their dogs fighting and it's terrifying.

@@lanavikalanai3977 I wouldn't take a child or a dog. It's a grueling journey. Have you ever hiked 20miles with your dog? I'm less worried about clearance (which I'm sure you can get) than I am about the dog.

LoL yes! The blonde has since been removed from my hair. doh. ;p

lol, now that the blonde is gone........ on to more videos!

All about the money??? Now I KNOW you're not referring to me so I'm just going to let that one be.

It is what it is, as the population grows more and more people are going to find out about it regardless... PLUS, mother nature is for everyone to enjoy :)