What about the Reese Goose Box? Lippert approved the use of the Goose Box without voiding the warranty.

It all comes down to was your fifth wheel frame built on a Monday or Friday.

Fantastic! Thanks for pointing out the pro's and con's of a fifth wheel hitch and gooseneck hitch conversion. I'm going to re-think what I was going to do!!

Having pulled the same RV with a Fifth Wheel Hitch and then as Gooseneck my preference is definitely for the Gooseneck, it pulls about the same in my opinion and I didn’t have anything in my bed to get in the way. If money wasn’t an object (it is) I would just have a travel trailer built to my specifications by one of the horse trailer manufacturers. They are far better built than anything built by the RV manufacturers and come with a Gooseneck Hitch already not to mention heavier axles and tires.

one of the disadvantages of 5th wheel hitch is of course the higher mounting point which will add leverage to side forces and definitely have an impact on truck stability, while a gooseneck transfer that force at the frame level and eliminate crosswind effects on the truck, contrary to what you stated

I love the Anderson Ultimate Hitch. Can un-bolt it in a minute and the 65lb pyramid comes right off. Never go back to a traditional 5th wheel hitch. They now make an aluminum alloy option weighs about 30lbs.

So refreshing to hear you teaching again. I’ve watched a lot of other people lately and they are so annoying to listen to because they don’t know what they are talking about or how to say it in less than 30 minutes. Thanks for all the info.

Awesome videos to keep me entertained and informed while pulling all nighters on the farm

Thanks for this informative video. I just decided to go with a B&W turnover ball and Anderson Ultimate Hitch system. I always learn so much from you.

Thanks for answering many of my Questions!!

Very informative, thanks for the detail along with the pros and cons of each!

Lots of good information in this video but you missed two main points for not using gooseneck hitch. First any ball type hitch voids all warranty on every camper and second you have to have safety chains attached to frame (not just to pin box like most do) when using gooseneck which will require cutting into body of camper and voiding warranty

I love learning about things like this. So glad I went with the 5th wheel hitch.

I just recently started looking at your videos, I have learned a lot of information watching your videos. Keep up the great work keeping us informed.

I adapted mine. Love how it tows. No chucking.

Thank you, this was the information I was looking for!

Took me a while to get to this video lol. Great job. I have the Anderson Hitch that attaches to rails in the bed of my F350. For me it’s the ultimate solution. Hitching is easy and the ride is fantastic. Although my model is steel and not aluminum it’s very light and easy to take in and out of the truck. Once again thanks for another great job.

Gen y Torsion flex goose neck hitch looks like a great upgrade

Hitch it is! Makes more sense in allot of ways. Thanks so much.

Thank you for talking me out of converting to gooseneck! Much appreciated!

am in agreement with you especially with more and more trailers being built with aluminum structural units. a hitch like the b&w companion hitch provides all the pitch and yaw needed for uneven or unlevel roads.

I feel like I need to pay you to come over and help me buy a fifth wheel when I'm ready to. I really appreciate everything you're posting you're amazing and very very helpful.

Thank you for the clarification. My ignorance has led me to believe that gooseneck and fifth-wheel are interchangeable.

Thanks for taking the time to make this. Great combination of layman + technical.

I tow a 41 foot 15k pound that i bought a goose neck pin box for and have had 0 problems in 5 years. Flip the ball over and pick up sheet rock with out rails to deal with or a 5th wheel to take out.

Love your videos Thanks for verifying on the hitch styles.

Thank you for the good analysis. I have pulled my Open Range Lite 5th wheel about 12,000 miles through the Midwest and West without incident. Open Range offers a factory gooseneck option on their light weight units. You did not mention three additional differences to the gooseneck system. 1) As a ball hitch it requires safety chains. 2) The ball cannot be seen from the driver’s seat in most trucks. (Requiring a spotter to assist hookup). 3) Because the latch is at the bottom of the hitch near the ball, it is almost impossible to reach over the pickup side or from the rear of the truck.(I carry a two-step ladder for that purpose.) In spite of this, I am glad I went with the gooseneck hitch and I would do it again.

Not exactly the content I was thinking it would be based on the title, but still informative. I expected a direct comparison of trailers designed as a 5th wheel setup vs trailers designed as a gooseneck setup.

I have the Anderson Aluminum version to pull my 36ft 5th wheel. It pulls great and smooth. And the ball is high so you can look out the back window to hook up.

You have been more than helpful. Thank you!

I'm learning so much! Thanks.

Another great video. I did not know any of this stuff. Thanks a bunch

Thanks for the video. Very helpful.

I am learning so much from your videos. Thank you.

Appreciate the video, I am going with the PullRite SuperGlide for my 2014 Ram 3500 Mega Cab. I wanted the clear bed when not pulling, but I don't want to give up the extra safety/stability of a 5th wheel set up. Thank you so much!

Some good tips thanks for your time and input

Thank you...great job and very informative!

Great videos - we learned a lot about RV trailers and about choosing a truck - we subscribed and look forward to watching more. Thanks for the information!!

Thank you for explaining the difference. Also the warranty issues.

I’ve never (20+ yrs) used a gooseneck hitch and was thinking about converting. I’ll stick with what I’m running thanks to your advice.

Great coverage right off the bat. Thanks for the info without a lengthy unnecessary intro.

Great advice Bro!....Much appreciated 👍

very good thank you for helping me make up my mind.

I though that highway looked familiar. Glad to see CC represented. I'll have to swing in.

We just purchased our first fifth wheel and an Anderson hitch. Ill know this summer if Im still as happy with this setup as a standard fifth wheel hitch.

Your videos are always informative and useful.

Thanks for a informative video. The Ultimate Connection by Andersen is a great bonus insofar as weight is concerned. Coming in at about 40 lbs is a far cry from the 250 lb of the Pullrite SuperGlide. Also, the hitch's lighter weight affords you more cargo poundage, which is helpful with dealing with pin weights, remembering that pin weights are part of the tow vehicle's cargo weight. My 6.7L F250 PS, with the Pullrite SuperGlide, weighs in at 8400# with fuel, me & and the wife. That only leaves 1600# before hitting hit the max GVWR of 10K. The additional 200# gives me some fudge room for pin weight. ...unless, of course, I am missing something.

Thank you for the information. I learned a lot.

You nailed the question! You might get more space in the bed of the truck and less weight because of it but the less stress and more stability of the 5th wheel outweighs the "benefits" of a gooseneck at least with a box van behind and above you compared to animals!

If a trailer is going to fall apart from being converted to a gooseneck clearly they don't know how to build a trailer. I've been running a gooseneck on my camper for many years and have never had a problem. There's no way I would ever put that big fifth wheel plate in the back of any of my trucks.

TL;DR Fifth wheel: Smoother ride, better on road Gooseneck: better articulation, rougher ride, better off road. Also can carry heavier trailers.

Thank you for this informative video. I appreciate your concerns related to stress on the trailer frame when the contact/tow point is essentially moved a foot or more away from the trailer's design point - the standard 5th wheel kingpin. That concern disappears, it seems to me, when using something like the Andersen system where the connection point is elevated to the trailer's normal kingpin attach point, keeping stresses as expected in the original trailer design. With the obvious other advantages of the Andersen system, I don't see why that would be the connection setup of choice.

Great information!

Good Stuff,Great Tips😄👍🏿

ty, informative and helpful. Looking at a 5th wheel setup.

I bought a camper with a goose neck adapter and love how easy it is to pull and back.

Open Range has been putting out a Light series of 5th wheel for about 5 years now. It actually comes as a modified gooseneck. It is I believe the only true gooseneck 5er on the market. It is an amazing tow and works perfectly for those of us with a flatbed. You just have to swap out the round tube adapter with a BX1 coupler or similar and you are on the road

Good info, thanks.

Good information thank you

Another very informative video. Thank you. Could you do one about the different 5th wheel hitches? I'm confused with all the options and sliding options, etc. Thanks again.

as always your well informed Thank you for the information

The burning question I have always had on this is not, which hitch; I have always asked, WHY?, as in, why did RV manufacturers choose to adopt the 5th wheel as the standard for RV's instead of the goose neck? I have never heard an answer to this question that is supported by anything. I am not asking about converting to a goose neck from a 5th wheel, I am asking why they chose to use a 5th wheel as the standard in the first place. In my opinion, a goose neck is a simpler system, and much more efficient use of truck bed space, and precisely the reason I think it is superior. I have never towed a 5th wheel, but I have towed thousands of goose neck trailers. Goose necks just work, every time, all the time, so I never understood why? The stresses a goose neck induce on the trailer frame was engineered out of existence years ago and I am certain they could do the same on a RV frame as they do on 48' horse trailers with changing rooms and/or sleeping quarters. For this reason, I have never heard an answer that makes any real sense to, why do RV manufacturers design to a 5th wheel instead of designing to a goose neck. I've been asking this question for over 20 years, so I hope you have one. Thanks

Great video... very informative 😀👍

Thank you for your video, it help me big time

Great INFO. As a retired engineer I can see where the gooseneck will create a much larger bending moment into the trailer. The stresses will be in the same area but more from the gooseneck connection. It seems that the biggest reason I have heard for a gooseneck has been to provide more cargo space in the bed of the truck. I'm not so sure the Anderson Fifth Wheel Hitch does any more for you in that area unless it can be easily removed when not pulling your trailer.

One year later switches to Goose-neck. Looking hard at going to a Goose-neck setup when I get my Fifth Wheel.

Had a gooseneck adapter on a fifth wheel. Chucking was BAD. Determined that the four bolts holding the adapter to the king pin were not tight. After tightening, chucking was reduced, not eliminating. Upgraded to the Andersen Ultimate. Chucking GONE. Finally determined that the gooseneck adapter itself has slop causing movement (chucking). With the Andersen, there is no slop.

This info rock's was really helpful thank you.

I use a few pieces of 1×4 decking boards and throw down a 3/4 inch 4 × 8 sheet of plywood down so I sits above my 5th wheel rails and it works great. The advantage of that is you can throw anything in the bed of the truck and never worry that something is going to mess up your bed or paint in your bed. Plywood lasts about 3 years here in Ohio before you need to replace it. Least that works for me

Can you show how to work with, hook up, a5th wheel with a standard, or Anderson, 5th wheel product? Or if you have, I can't find it on your site? Thank you.

Awesome informational educational video experience Y'alls

Helpful information, saved me from an error

Thanks..very educational explained everything I was confused about these options.

I think there is some validity in terms of how it effects the truck. This video really hits everything on the trailer side. What are your two cents on how the tow point can effect your towing experience between a gooseneck with its connection point at the bottom of the bed and closer to the axle vs. a fifth wheel hitch that elevates the mounting point almost two feet higher?

What is you thoughts on The B&W turnover ball with the companion fithwheel adapter ? i have one and have pulled both gooseneck and Fifth wheel and it pulls great . whats your thoughts ?

Great video. I did not even know there was a difference between the two

BTBRV: I solved this prob for myself by having a goose neck that would hook up to my 5th wheel rails in the bed. Just swap out Hitches on the rails. I KNOW that was old school.

I made an investment on a new 2017 F350 lariat ultimate! you are an amazing person who shares your un biased thoughts on so many subjects!

Since our truck already had a gooseneck hitch in the box when we bought our new 34' 5th wheel trailer a few years ago, we asked if a gooseneck adapter would void the new trailer warranty; the dealer called Jayco and they said the warranty would be fine. So, we ordered the trailer and the dealer installed the Mumby adapter on the trailer (we're in Canada), and it's never given us a single bit of problem, and it pulls like a dream. It takes 10 seconds to take the ball out of the truck box and replace it with a plug that keeps debris out, and then I can use the full truck box, and there's not a big hitch taking up space in my garage. There's also a set of heavy duty brackets on either side of the adapter, going from down by where the hitch meets the ball, up to by where the king pin box disappears up under the trailer nose; these form a super strong triangle on each side and take away any additional stress on the frame introduced with the lower connection point of a gooseneck. If we ever get another 5er, I'd to this set-up again in a heartbeat.

Glad I didn't get the gooseneck setup now went with fifthwheel

I mostly see goosenecks on horse trailers and the like, since people drag them through the fields and creeks and whatnot. It would be cool if you could pull a pin on your 5th wheel plate to allow lateral movement, so you have that option at low speed if you're going down remote places.

I like my trailer saver with air bags

thank you

The solution I have used for many years is to leave the hitch assembly hanging on the trailer, when ur ready to disconnect just pull the four pins on the rails, raise the trailer and put the pins back in the hitch! With a little practice this will be easy, problem solved!

Holy crap this was filmed in Corpus specicially in the bluff. I go there because im friends with the owners sons in their bodyshop that they aquired. At that rv shop! Wow. Small world.

First off, thank you for taking the time to make this video and giving us a better idea of each system. I’m curious though as to what qualifications you have that you feel support your claims on the potential damage a gooseneck might be causing? We can all guess and say it sort of makes sense. But if you aren’t an engineer who’s done extensive testing on these exact systems you probably shouldn’t be tossing around misinformation as if you know what you’re talking about. To the point of another comment here… if a gooseneck increases the likelihood of a catastrophic frame failure, they likely wouldn’t be able to make and sell them.

It would have been nice for this newbie to see just a picture of the hookup done with the gooseneck. For now I'll have to take your word on how stresses would be applied, since I don't have a mental image to test:) Thanks for the info!

Reese "Goose Box" is an air ride pin box replacement that converts to gooseneck. It doesnt void the warranty either. They cost the same as an OEM trailer package 5thwheel hitch for New Dodges. Cheaper to buy a goose box than a good 5th wheel hitch then adding air ride to pin box doubles cost.

Great video, I noticed that you mentioned the Anderson hitch set up, can you expand on that thought process a little. Considering going to that system. Thanks

A single point mount hitch is probably the best. It is a fifth wheel hitch but it can be put in the truck or taken out of the truck in just minutes. This leaves the bed of the truck empty when you’re not towing the fifth wheel.

I will respectfully disagree with your opinion on the Reese Goose Box. The Goose Box is the only application that Lippert Co. approves as an O.E.M. application and it DOES NOT void the warranty. Your statement "if there is frame damage and it's determined that the Goose Box was the cause, it will void your warranty" is the same as saying if there is frame damage and it is determined the 5th wheel pin box was the cause it will void the warranty. I spoke with Lippert representatives prior to purchasing my Goose Box and there is no fine print excluding it's application in the warranty. Furthermore, the reason Lippert approves the Goose Box application is because it is engineered NOT to alter the stress points at the wing mounts on the trailer. I certainly agree that the use of goose neck adapters will void the warranty and most importantly are not safe. However, proper goose neck applications typically have higher tow ratings specific to the hitch than 5th wheel applications because they have less moving parts and are more stable. Obviously the vehicle tow rating should be observed primarily for safety reasons. In regards to expense, it is negligible. When you consider the cost of a 5th wheel hitch for a truck rated high enough to tow a 30+ ft. camper, the cost would be very close to the cost of an under bed goose neck hitch and the Goose Box for the camper combined. I have a B&W under bed hitch setup with a Goose Box on a 42 ft. camper and it tows like a dream. I am a life long RV enthusiast just like most of the people reading or writing on this post. Regardless of opinions about tow ratings, stress points, warranties, frame damage or any other elements of this video. If for the sake of debating we say that all categories that are associated with a number or a warranty between 5th wheel and Goose Neck towing are the same. There is one thing that I am confident that most would agree upon. If anyone towing a camper that has truly EXPERIENCED the difference between towing with a 5th wheel hitch setup and a Goose Ball/Goose Box set up you will never own another 5th wheel hitch again. Unless you never use the bed of your truck and leave the 5th wheel hitch in it permanently, or you are 25 years old and love unhooking the multiple pin attachment points and lifting the multiple heavy and awkward pieces in and out of your truck there is no comparison. The ease of hitching/unhitching, turning around what probably amounts to a 3 or 4 pound hitch ball to completely free the bed of your truck of any obstruction, and the lack of hitch noise and binding would make a believer out of anyone that tows on a regular basis.

Need to look at the Reese Goose Box 5th-Wheel-to-Gooseneck Air Ride Coupler It takes things to a different level things as far as angles for the trailer being attached. But it frees ur bed up. You put the ball in the bed of your truck in the hole and simple drop your trailer on same as if you was on standard 5th wheel king pin set up.

I have had a slider hitch but really like my Anderson

That was very good information for newbies pulling 5th wheels. I believe goose necks are ok for equipment type trailers but not for livable trailers

Great video! Thx! I subscribed just off this vid.

What's your opinion on the automated Safety Hitch setup, so that I can utilize my truck for other load carrying....

Your stress accesment is absolutely correct. Listen up people.

This : "What about the Reese Goose Box? Lippert approved the use of the Goose Box without voiding the warranty." They are expensive at + $1000, but i have spoken with owners and they are awesome. Of course I happen to have a Leland trailer which DOES NOT approve to use the Reese Goose Box.

The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act protects the consumer against manufacturers voiding warranties for branded modifications. Lippert would have to prove in court beyond a reasonable doubt that the gooseneck adapter contributed to a failure to deny a claim.

JD, I appreciate your expertise. Would you do another video with a standard fifth wheel hitch, a gooseneck adapter, and then a Reese gooseneck pin box. I believe people need a visual to understand exactly your point you are making. Love your channel and you are the best.