If you enjoyed the video, make sure to show some love with a like and sub, if you haven't already! Really helps, especially during the summer slump! Much love to you all and brew something tasty! Cheers

The stages of buying a coffee grinder : Before buying: Step 1- FOMO After buying: Step 1 - Denial Step 2 - Anger Step 3 - Bargaining Step 4 - Regret Step 5 - Acceptance

This would make a great flowchart. Have the user select the different preferences and have it spit out 1 to 3 grinders as a recommendation. Thanks for all this info Lance!

Thank you for making a "neutral" video, one that doesn't increase the FOMO, but makes one reflect on what is ones personal need before finding a grinder. Excellent work of both you and your team 👍

Love this video!! I'll be sharing this with anyone looking to buy a grinder in the future. I've followed your grinder advice two times already and it hasn't failed me, so thank you for doing this video🙏🏻

This video came at just the right time! Our Sage/Breville machine with built in grinder has died. My husband then tried tinkering with our backup grinder, a Rancilio Rocky, decided to do the wiring while it was plugged in (?!) and caused a literal explosion. It got burnt inside. Husband survived with just a mild electric shock. Anyway... now we are shopping for a grinder. A frustrating unplanned expense, with endless choices and every machine has a flaw. I am really glad of this video (and of your previous honest feedback on the Niche, as I am also someone who enjoys funky, fruity speciality coffee as well as the chocolatey basic dark roast vibe). Hoping to make a grinder choice soon...

One of my best lessons was buying THE BEST GRINDER I CAN AFFORD, and then focusing heavily on the coffee itself. This approach was well worth it for me. And the one I always preach: WATER!!!! Don't skimp on this. You'll be surprised by how good your grinder actually is!

i got a turin sk40 a few months ago and i love it. first electric grinder I've owned. I'm not looking for a replacement but i cant stop watching these videos hahahahaha

I have a Kingrinder K6 and can't be happier. It does what it's supposed to do grinding for espresso, moka pot, french press and melitta/v60 being able to dial in nicely on every method.

Grand vid! Very informative, just what I needed. Great energy btw

recently went from a JMAX to a DF83. holy moly not having to hand grind light roast single origin is so nice.

Given my very limited budget, I bought a Fellow Opus about a month ago. I'm VERY happy with it. I'm new to espresso so still experimenting and it seems up to the job. The Opus and a V60 means I can finally make consistently delicious coffee at home. The plastic body doesn't bother me as long as the working parts are decent quality. So far so good at a very good price. Maybe after the kids finish college I'll look at something higher end but at this point its hard to imagine needing to.

Nice video as always, Lance. Thank you for taking the time to make and post it for us. I like to learn things for myself and compare them and happen to be in a situation where I needed (well, subjectively) an electric grinder for a short period of time before a move so I picked up an esp. It has been a great opportunity to compare it to my hand grinders C2 and K6. It really blows my mind how much value the K6 offers. It is almost always on sale for $100 and at half the price of the esp it has slightly better adjustability and a better flavor profile (for me). Now, I am not sure why I prefer the espresso from the K6 and even the modified C2 but I do. I mean functionally. I understand why I preferer them taste wise. You could say it is the burr size, I guess, but the C2 has a similar sized burr to the encore. Maybe it is the rpms or the speed at which the coffee is ground. I will say that it seems like the esp is making the most fines. The K6 produces the fluffiest and least clumpy coffee of the three and I feel that I can grind finer with it before choking the machine. Regardless, the K6 gives me the most balanced cup of the three. It tends to bring out brightness in coffees that the others don't. (I like a more medium-dark roast espresso focused blend.) Anyway, point being. I always heard people say how much value a hand grinder offers, and I guess I took mine for granted. There is nothing wrong with my esp but the K6 is a much, much better value in terms of making a good cup of coffee (espresso in my case). The esp is slightly more convenient though, but not really much faster. All of that said, what I have learned is that my next grinder will be stepless. Right now, if I want to go from a 25 second shot to a 27 second shot I need to adjust by dose. With my particular coffee about 3/10s of a gram of coffee needs to be added or subtracted. Because if I adjust by one click on the esp it is going to be more like a 29 second shot. Just an example. And I have also learned that that one or two-seconds difference make be the difference between a coffee I like and I coffee I love. Not really a coffee I like and one I don't though. I guess I am getting to the point where I want to make coffee slightly more enjoyable, or get the most out of it, rather than making a decent cup. Or something like that. Just my ramblings. Thank you again for the video. I enjoyed.

Just what I was looking for. Thanks buddy!

Great video, very informative! I think the most impactful advice (for me anyway) was to increase the budget for the grinder over spending on the espresso machine. Thank you! 😃

note re. handgrinder: i just got shipped a medium roast bean, super compact little shi..thing. my j-max, which imo is an great purchase with awesome value, found its master, or rather i did. i weigh about 88kg @ 1.84m (me not tiny) and those beans, i means those beans.... i had to take breaks, or rather was forced to, simply due to the insane amount of brute force that was required to grind them. tldr; if you're into specific beans/roasts, check how well a hand grinder /you can handle that. i kid you not.

Im perfectly happy with my Eureka Mignon Single dose, just exactly what i need, maybe not not perfect to some, but im happy with my purchase... straight to the end game (at least for me) from day 1 rather than experimenting with cheaper ones and then ending up hopping on another grinder.

Really helpful man. Considering opening a cafe and this is valuable info for my initial considerations. Thank you!

I preorderd the baratza sette before it was released. I used it with my la pavoni and then flair. It broke just out of warranty. They said they could fix it and just pay shipping or they can send the motor to me for free. They sent the motor and directed me to a video to change it. It was such a breeze. I was so impressed by their support that I bought the updated bartza sette 270wi and moved the old one to the office. Great company and the motor/drive looks like the uss enterprise!😅

Excellent. Thank you Lance. 🙏🏻

amazing video! now i think sort of know what is meant by traditional espresso - which is dark roast and with its nuances supressed by the heavy roasting.. really good to learn from a real pro

super idea for approaching this! helpful!

I find it amazing that Lance has sub 200k followers on YT when he's been putting out such awesome content for this long. I'm following you since your first video and loving your style and the wealth of knowledge that you are sharing. I hope that you will continue!

After having made these decisions multiple times my new takeaway: get a hand grinder for pourover and a dedicated electric espresso grinder. That way you have two devices dialed in at all times. Hand grinding is underrated imho.

I already found my perfect grinder. I’m still going to watch this till the end.

my experience so far suggests that for budget and mid baratza is the way to go. 'just works' and they were designed to be repaired. i went through 2 fellow ode2s and got the impression it really didnt like being taken apart (wobble sounds change as you take it apart and reassemble...). niche zero is also great for traditional espresso hit and get great results. fancier "clarity" grinders is a whole other thing.

Kudos to Lance for reporting grinder burr separation to compare grinder performance. An actual number for microns per adjustment mark allows a real comparison, df83 has 10.4 microns/mark, a Rancilio Rocky 11.1, and so on. Makes me wonder again why stepless is so important for espresso grinders when some stepped have 10 micron steps, and a 0.001" burr misalignment represents a 25.4 micron fluctuation in actual burr separation.

Excellent in depth information for us coffee nerds ❤ Thank You so much Lance for your time and geekiness info👌🇿🇦

One thing I'll look for in my next Grinder... messiness! Have a barratza encore I upgraded with the M2 burr. Love the grind but grounds live in that chute and come out at random intervals into my counter.

I have the 64 Grinder the 3 version and so far works well and is easy to clean . As my home is in Bali the price was low 360 US . In my opinion, this is a great value. (great for espresso)

Love my Niche Zero. Could not be happier.

Good coffee first, next good grinder. I have been using a Flair 58 with the Arco. I got a Titus Espresso grinder earlier this year and got a Brevelle infusor on Prime day and the spent more on different baskets and tamper--Great espresso

I cannot overstate the importance of a grinder in the setup. I have a v60 kit and a manual grinder that cost about twice as much or more than the v60 kit but when i started out it was using my dads old $50 burr grinder and stepping up to the manual was a HUGE difference. The coffee went straight from a muddy, terrible cup of coffee to a truly delicious cup of coffee that i feel like i can actually do small changes and notice a big impact.

Hi Lance! Just discovered you a couple of weeks ago, Burr Daddy, and I love everything you do here. Sending love from Canada 🇨🇦 ❤! I’ve tried grinding coffee with my dry carafe on the Vitamix and the coffee had no taste, as if I had just plainly soaked the beans in hot water. I’m starting a little manual grinder collection and just bought SSP burrs for my Ode Gen 1. I’m afraid I may develop GAS... 😄

Uncanny timing, have been looking for an upgrade to replace my smart grinder pro to suit my Breville dual boiler 🤩

Lance, as I expected I enjoyed this video and learned a lot from it and was comfortable with it even though I had already made up my mind and bought my grinder. your previous videos plus other peoples reviews helped me to make up my mind, and for that I think you. if you are curious, my choice, which fit my requirements very well, is the Eureka Oro single-dose. again, thanks. -Toby

What do you think about something like the gaggia mdf, moded to be stepless and upgraded with new burrs

Thanks for this! I have a KitchenAid grinder and have no idea how these are better than that. Trying to learn as much as I can!

great review, i agree about the quality hand grinder bit, as I dug deeper into the espresso game(I blame you lol), I snagged a JX Pro on ebay for 80 best offer, my thought process was it took me longer to dial in the BBE grinder and I knew that once i dialed in the hand grinder the adjustments were a lot better and tastewise was not even in the same ballpark.. also longevity , i believe some say the JX series lasts for 20,000 + uses

Excellent, thank you.

You are awesome sir. So knowledgeable and v charismatic. Starting to think about upgrading my Sage smart grinder for single dose espresso in the 3-500 range.

Great video as always @LanceHedrick still pondering between x54 and the eureka oro stark. Not sure if 65mm burrs are better for home use than 54mm???

Nearly a year into owning my Eureka and they’ve probably got me for life. You will eventually need to clean your grinder and it’s one screw to get to the burr set. Makes beautiful espresso and does well with AeroPress but it’s probably not the best for that

Thanks for all that info in such a short amount of time... fast talking but really clear even for me (no native speaker)... I have the blessing to live in Boquete (Panama) and tried all those flavors you described without knowing where they all came from😂... but this video helps a lot to keep track of them!

Thx Lance. I’m shopping around for a grinder for a relative for Christmas

I'm a beginner but I've had a cheap espresso machine for 9 years (Delonghi 310). I've had a Dualit Burr grinder but it doesn't grind fine enough to 'dial in' an espresso grind. Having listened to tons of reviews it seems the Baratza Encore ESP would be a good step up for me. So far (!!!) I don't have a refined coffee palate but I hope that may change with a better grinder.

I would love a video about your top 5 grinders with ideal burr set for filter, espresso, and for both methods. So 3 lists, regardless of price, and based on the enjoyment you derive from drinking coffee from these grinders.

Awaiting the Sculptor 078S to compare to my conicals. 95% espresso for me, then French Press or Cold Brew. Will roast a couple pounds beans to just barely out of yellowing, and grind them all through it to hurry up the seasoning. Maybe then I’ll have something decent to try my hand at pour over. Might order another (very similar) grinder in the meantime though.

Got a Eureka Filtro which I replaced the burrs with the espresso ones. It's an amazing entry electric coffee grinder that I paired with my Bambino but my only huge gripe is the dial. It's small and really hard to dial with so if you go the Eureka route bare that in mind.

Hey Lance would you agree that a "plasma generator deionizer" currently being added to some grinders is a must have or is a good reason to upgrade a grinder. What will they think of next

Please remember this: the #1 obstacle consumers face when setting their budget for grinders is not whether they are willing to spend 1grand on their passion and their hobby, but it is the judgement they face from family and friends. Do you see what I mean, you are speaking to people who are listening to you and totally have been convinced on the value of investment in coffee gear, but the #1 obstacle that they are facing, and therefore you are facing, is convincing their family and friends as well. If you do not do this, then you are isolating people from their family and friends who do not support them in their hobby because they are not convinced. Sure, if they taste it, they may easily be convinced, but that is only if they have the same high level of passion for coffee. This is why I was so so excited that I was able to justify my purchase of the x-pro to my family. You may say, "well we will just focus on those who are passionate about coffee as a hobby and those who have family and friends that support that hobby, thanks." But what I am pointing out is the obstacle that needs to be addresses in order to expand, and grow the hobby and specialty coffee industry so that farmers and buyer and roasters can do more.

Hey Lance! Everybody always talks about filter vs espresso. But what about those of us who mostly do Esspro “French press”? We love espresso also but the press pot is 80% of what we do. Don’t mind a little grit. I tend toward medium roasts and do like it when the sweetness of the bean comes out. Right now I’m doing Guatemalan coffees but love beans from different origins. Would you recommend a grinder for us? We have a very old 15 + years [?] Rocky Rancillo and have never replaced the burrs. Or maybe recommend a burrs set? Not worried about noise or aesthetics of grinder but am most concerned about really good flavor.

You should release your own grinder man you know a enough about these things to make it happen and achieve success

Great video, very imformative! Would recommend throwing in pics and title recommendations throughout the video or sublinks in description

Please lance , make a turkish coffee vid. You're such a detail oriented creator i really enjoy

love your vids, and eyeing my very own Zerno Z1, much thanks to the praise you lavished on it. I would have liked in this video to have your grouping of grinder options per price bracket on camera for a few seconds, but i understand what you were going for (more in the instructional education style rather than specific recommendations)

@lanceHedrick What coffee grinder would you recommend specifically for getting the most flavor out of espresso on a 700-1000 dollar budget?

I have a niche zero for a couple of years, so I'm watching this video to understand why I need to change it

Just waiting on my Weber HG1 to arrive. A tad excited

What grinder would you suggest to buy to upgrade from the breville smart grinder pro. Mostly for espresso and under 1000 $. Thank you

Waiting for my Sculptor 078s - can't wait!

What would be your best picks for espresso only, thick body profile, in the 300-500$ range?

Personalized grinder recommendations based on all those criteria would be a great high-tier patreon reward :D

Next to my 3 handgrinders, i've spent 160 euros for a refurbished "like new" Baratza Sette 30 which i love. For the amount i paid, i am losing on material quality, but i got easiness and good enough grind quality.

great overview of different factors, and the way you'd narrow down to a good grinder for the particular individual! i wish you could have put up the picture of some of these grinders when you referenced them (just a screen-in-screen) so we could get more familiar with the names plus attributes of the diff ones. i got the little K2 initially for filter coffee and it's both nice to use and fast. espresso took a while. so i later got the izpresso's epresso grinder and man is the build quality nice!! magnetic cup is clutch. one of my fav features on it. the fold down handle is interesting, too, like it would make good sense for travel. but honestly if traveling i'd grab the K2 and just take a bit longer grinding. having a manual is FANTASTIC if you travel around a bit, or visit friends or family with bare kitchens. (last time i visited my mom in fl, suddenly she didn't have even an electric grinder. wtf??? we ALWAYS had one. so here was me and some beans and no way to coffee them. then i grabbed a grinder from the grocery store (yeah, i know) to do in a pinch and this was THE worst one i have EVER used in my life. powder and boulders. a damn disgrace. returned and got a diff model and that was ok for what it was. NOW, i can bring the K2, and for SURE have no coffee issues relying on other peoples beans, grinders/or not, or brewing methods. basically i do a metal basket filter on a mug and do a cheater french press which is honestly SO easy to clean up that i stopped bothering with the french press. immersion is immersion. lol) i keep coming back to the niche, tho as the grinder i want to save up for. aesthetics for sure. but then the sound is hella quiet compared to that get-plane barazza. and it seems to do filter and espresso reasonably well. the wild card on grinders, i think, is RELIABILITY. and customer support through this, and making things right. so many companies these days do not back their product and so you'd be out the money. *EASY REPAIR would be another. or even upgrade.* it's nice if things are accessible and there are parts available. then you don't have to worry as much about longevity. so, *the gaggia seems to be that, for espresso machines. i wonder what the pick would be for grinders?* you know, so if you picked up one used or even broken, that you could fix it (and not need to be an engineer, just have some decent skills and the inclination to.)

I think you brought up most of the issues for consideration that I know of. Simply throwing money at a grinder will not get one a better grinder if you are not taking into consideration the points you bring up. For example, I live right next to where a Sette would get serviced yet reliability is important to me - I do not want down time. I like my workstation clean with minimal effort, so how much mess a grinder produces matters to me. The same issues are important to me in an espresso machine. I do not want time consuming maintenance procedures.

So I have a varia hand grinder and I really do hate it - it’s a fight with some beans (had it 2 years), I’m open to suggestions for a step up. Is the 1zpresso K max easier to grind or should I just grab the varia vs3? I’m just a pour over guy that makes 3-4 cups a day

Hey Lance. A vote here for the Eureka Mignon Filtro at $200 for both Filter and Espresso. Good video !

I don't know for other country, bur in France you can get a lot of mazzer super jolly for around 150$ , I got one and i'm super happy about it

I'm listening to this video with Bowers & Wilkins headphones while sipping Yemeni coffee and staring at a color calibrated screen. I'm here to add to my goodie room.... 😋

I have a barateza virtuoso + . It’s great but I am looking to step up for espresso and I’m not sure what budget it’s worth going to. If I’m gonna be under $300 am I better sticking with this? What machine would be a step up

i really really appreciate how you chose your words and points while explaining your thoughts on grinder price ranges. people seriously need to stop worrying about consumerism so much. yes, we're all pretentious to some degree, no we do not all have the same living situations and budget.

Saw a knob grinder in the background would love your thoughts backed the Kickstarter and have never used it. sitting in my cupboard

Did you get your hands on mxcool Aries, if so what are your thoughts on it?

I have a (nice) dedicated espresso grinder. For drip (v60 & moccamaster), I’m using a Baratza Encore with upgraded burrs. What’s the ‘best’ electric grinder for drip?

which according to you is the best coffee machine ? please respond...!!

My starter grinder is at the low end of the budget tier. My endgame grinder... is in the middle of the budget tier.

This was a great video! Just as an idea, it would be great having a 64mm master class since it is the most common burr size! Cheers!

Great video…I’m shopping for a home grinder, it’s for espresso, my budget is not more than $1000, what do you recommend? I saw the La Marzocco Pico just came out, is it any good? I just bought a La Marzocco Linea Mini the Nordic edition

I have j-max, and love it, it does produce very chocolaty espresso.

I wanted to ask this community for help! Here is my preference, and I would love to hear your grinder suggestions: 1. Budget - Mid-High; quality of the burred coffee beans is my priority, so a uniform particle size 2. Automatic preferably 3. Method - Espresso for Life

Great video. As always watching yours or Asser's videos, i want to buy one 😅😅😂

I got DF64P ordered from Singapore, standard italmill burrs, pre aligned by the seller. I can't imagine better grinder for beginner espresso enthusiast.

Good reasons to by a new grinder Lance... or you bought coffee for your espresso machine and cant seem to grind fine enough to prevent every shot being a turbo shot ... some of my coffee providers roast the coffee on the limit to be espresso suitable for the mass home brewers(specialty coffee). Meaning you need a grinder that can grind specialty coffee fine enough to keep the shots between 25-35 seconds = expensive grinder. Please enlighten me if I am off on my perception :-)

What do you think about the la marzocco lux d by mazzer grinder?

I really liked your video, it's well done for a newbie and mid-tier coffee consumer. The only surprise in your video as a Canadian is that you spelled "flavour" as a commonwealth country and not an American who spell it flavor. Daddy Hoffman would like "flavour."

fantastic video, made me think about hand grinders again, I am the 50/50 person you mentioned lol...

Difficult to be precise on recommendation, got it. Flowchart-like guide would have still been nice. I am about 80-90% Espresso and 10-20% filter. I like thick and chocolaty espresso, and tea'ish filter. With some good recommendations I got a DF64p and a K-Ultra. Happy setup for me. I guess that's mid-tear.

The most important feature for me in a grinder is the quality of the coffee output and the absence of lumps. Of course, it is important not to keep coffee inside the grind. I don't care about things like sound and body material. Considering these things, what model is the best grinder that you can suggest for me under 1000 dollars?

I have my perfect grinder, but this makes me want to shop for another one.

Anyone here have some advice for me? I need a grinder that will only do 2 light roast espressos every day on a rocket giotto. I dont want features beside maybe anti clump, just a on/off button. I want to spend under $1600. I have a zerno on order for my office but it wont be here for a very long time. What grinder should I get for the house? My eureka made rocket fausto is pretty but the grind is poor and the dosing buttons are terrible. Thanks for any advice!

you sir, how dare you, how dare you be such a Legend. lol thanks for this epic video. i have an Ode 2 and i just ordered a Comandante that supposedly does the range but im psyched to finally have an off-grid grinder. the Ode and the Comandante were close to the same price. im excited to see how it goes 👏🏻❤️

have you ever or would you ever do a video(s) about specialty Turkish coffee? i got the comandante for my new Turkish pot im gonna try, but also for home spro in the future.

Love this! I see that EK43 casually hanging out in the background, when are we getting a walk through for that luxury workhorse?

Always good to repeat that the grinder matters more than the machine/brewer. Sad to see reddit posts showing $3K espresso machines with $300 grinders.

Feed me a fish and feed me for the night. Teach me to fish and feed me for a lifetime... This is what you just did Lance.... Thank you! We will have great coffee for a lifetime! Slainte' be well! ✌️

this goes together with the grinder hype video

Hi Lance, question: It has been a long time since I have seen you in the same room as a Mazzer grinder (I have had the mini for 7 years now). Has time passed Mazzer by?

Wow that’s what I am look for

Whats better than my breville barista express grinder? But not to expensive?