Ultimate RV Electrical System Protection⚡️ - Hughes Autoformer & Power Watchdog

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Ultimate RV Electrical System Protection⚡️ - Hughes Autoformer & Power Watchdog

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It's time to start Phase 2 of our RV Battery & Electrical Upgrade Project by installing the ultimate protection for our RV's electrical system: A Hughes Autoformer & Power Watchdog.
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@roydavis2242 5 жыл бұрын

I use a plug-in surge protector for a specific reason. As soon as I get to a site, I plug it in to check the power before we do anything else. That way, if there is an issue, I go right back to the office to ask for a different site. I then repeat the process. I have found a Mom & Pop place where several sites had an issue. They had been doing their rewiring.

@RVwithTito 5 жыл бұрын

Nice! That really is the ultimate setup. Pretty cool how the dog lights up white and red, but I think the app should bark at you when there's a problem.

@RVgeeks 5 жыл бұрын

🐶😂 Love it, Brian! We're going to have to pass that along to Hughes as a suggestion for the next update of the app!

@RVgeeks 5 жыл бұрын

How about the sound of a Chihuahua yapping for low voltage, and a big Rottweiler barking for high voltage? 😂

@RVwithTito 5 жыл бұрын

@@RVgeeks Woof woof!! Just ordered a 30A surge protector with the code. Thanks!

@RVwithTito 5 жыл бұрын

@@RVgeeks Big WOOFs only...like the dog on the device :)

@sivispacemparabellum5077 5 жыл бұрын

You guys are like the Mr. Roger's of you tube. Everyone is welcome to your neighborhood and you are always educating. Keep up the great work!!!!!!!!

@RVgeeks 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much! 😊

@jeffsteele1295 8 ай бұрын

Yes I have had the autoformer for years also the watchdog w/EPO , bluethooth works great .

@raven7068 5 жыл бұрын

Wow I like that Watch Dog with the Bluetooth feature, I say about 7 months ago maybe I bought me a surge protector would have got this one if I knew about it. You guys did exactly what I want to do. I want to install my portable surge protector inside my cubby instead of having it hanging outside at the post. Thanks for the great video I saved it in my collection of your other great videos lol. 👍😉

@RVgeeks 5 жыл бұрын

Well, even without getting a Power Watchdog, Adelino... you can certainly get the necessary connections to move your current surge protector inside! And if that surge protector ever fails... you can get a Watchdog! 😉

@TheMcMillanExpress 5 жыл бұрын

That is the (excuse my language) the most badass surge protector I’ve ever seen! Thanks as always for all of your packed full of information videos. We continue to learn so much from you guys.

@RVgeeks 5 жыл бұрын

Language excused! 😁 Thanks so much!

@RVgeeks 4 жыл бұрын

It’s also the best!

@Dadcam_Can 5 жыл бұрын

Guys, no job is too big or too challenging for you. Another awesome and informative video added to your vast repertoire on KZfaq.

@DavidLGood 5 жыл бұрын

Already have my Hughes Autoformer... and my Power Watchdog showed up a few minutes ago! Thanks for the informative videos. Always appreciate all the effort that goes into making these videos.

@RVgeeks 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks, David! We bet you're gonna love your Watchdog!

@DavidLGood 5 жыл бұрын

@@RVgeeks - The ability to see the WATTS used in real time is worth the entire price to me. Sure, I could go around the rig plugging in individual meters on various devices to find out use... but to be able to simply walk around the rig and turn things on and off to troubleshoot a power-hungry device that might not be so easy to put an individual meter on (and monitor it from the comfort of your chair) is worth it to me. Got it plugged in a few minutes ago and am happy with everything thus far.

@RVgeeks 5 жыл бұрын

Awesome! We might have to make a follow-up video from our chair! 👍😄

@alanpetersen4615 3 жыл бұрын

Thank You for the very educational video. I purchased both a surge protector, then afterwards, an Autoformer. Only by logical evaluation that I would hook up the Autoformer, then the Surge Protector. Now my power into the RV travels from the RV Power Pedestal, to the Autoformer, then to the Surge Protector, and then on to the RV power panel. Your video verified my assumptions, because I had no clear direction from any other source, but this video.

@RVgeeks 3 жыл бұрын

Fantastic Alan! You’ll love this setup. It’s the ultimate!

@alanpetersen4615 3 жыл бұрын

@@RVgeeks The only concern that I have, is that I originally ordered a "Progressive Industries EMSHW50C Surge protector, and will now have to pair with the Hughes Autoformer 50 amp unit. Perhaps I should send the Progressive Industries EMSHW50C surge protector back, and purchase the HUGHES PWD50-EPO-H Hard wire version to pair with the Hughes Autoformer. What do you think?

@RVgeeks 3 жыл бұрын

Alan Petersen If you ordered the progressive unit, and haven’t used it yet, and can still send it back, the Hughes Power Watchdog outdoes it in every way, and should be less expensive, especially with the discount code we arranged. We used to have a similar unit to the progressive ourselves, but now that we have a Power Watchdog, we would never consider going back.

@gbressler 5 жыл бұрын

I have a Power Watchdog 50 amp EPO and love it! I recommend it to everyone but a lot of people are stuck on the Progressive device that I built into my last camper. I prefer the Hughes device.

@gbressler 5 жыл бұрын

It's also a nice pedistal light at night.

@RVgeeks 5 жыл бұрын

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@goodxrvn2053 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for posting this! Took advantage of your discount code and ordered up this setup. Thanks again.

@gonebyrv9748 5 жыл бұрын

Very nice video (as always). I have used the Autoformer on several occasions and it has saved us from poor power in a couple of CGs. Unfortunately, or fortunately, I use the Progressive Industries unit and it just won't die. If it did, I would definitely take a look at this new unit from Hughes. I really like a lot of the features you described.

@WILDEBILL308 5 жыл бұрын

Great video and a good job explaining how and why you did your installation. I may be upgrading to a Autoformer as I have had low/fluctuating power in a couple parks on this trip.(North East) My surgegard has protected me but it can't do anything about low power. Many places in this part of the world are older and don't have the infrastructure to support modern coaches.

@BrianGant1000 5 жыл бұрын

Bookmarked! We're switching rigs in the near future...so, will be waiting to get any more power management electronics until we know what we have to work with.

@RVgeeks 5 жыл бұрын

Congrats on your upcoming new rig! 😊

@private1750 4 жыл бұрын

I was on the fence about this product but I saw your video and trust your opinion so I purchased it and your promo code still works a year later!! Safe travels!!

@RVgeeks 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Daniel! You’re going to love your Hughes! 👍

@sgtevmckay 5 жыл бұрын

Many thanks again. Look forward to Future vids. Really looking forward to seeing what ya do to upgrade your system next.

@vdubing01 3 жыл бұрын

Very nice! Best video on the watchdog surge protector. Just ordered one.

@RVgeeks 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! You're gonna love it!

@nickb4207 5 жыл бұрын

Monday I ordered a 30 amp Watch Dog with EPO to replace a melted Progressive EMS. Wish I had the 10% off code then! Great video as always!

@mstikdragon2736 5 жыл бұрын

Nick Bowman you know progressive industries have life warranty on their equipment?

@SillyPutty3700 5 жыл бұрын

As a master electrician with 35 years of experience I can tell you that adding that "modular" plug in your compartment is just one more place for a fire to start.

@RVgeeks 5 жыл бұрын

Hi Jonathan. With due props and respect to your expertise and experience, we’re aware that a plug is of course not as robust a transmitter of power as a solid, unbroken cable. However there are a couple of reasons we’re comfortable that this very useful mod is within our comfort zone when it comes to safety. First is the very high quality of the components. Hughes gear (including the plugs) is top notch, so we’re not depending on cheaply made parts. Second is the fact that this is a semi-permanent installation, only unplugged in the rare/unlikely event of the need for a repair to one of the units, or to access the rear panel for further mods. If this were a connection that would be being plugged and unplugged on a routine basis, we’d have greater concern that the VERY tight, solid connections we now have would be loosened over time from repeated/frequent plugging and unplugging.

@joethecomputerguy1 5 жыл бұрын

That's a sweet setup. Hope my Surgeguard lasts a long long time but if and when it needs replacing I know what I'd replace it with. Been ok without the Autoformer so far but I'm in Cali now and some of the parks seem sketch so I may be in the market for one soon. At least the Surgeguard will shut me down if voltage drops too much to prevent damage. Not optimal but better than nothing protecting me.

@RVgeeks 5 жыл бұрын

Hi Joe! We were happy enough with our old surge protector for a long time, but now that we've upgraded, there's no going back! 😁

@joeyhartemink900 5 жыл бұрын

Another amazing video. 👍👍

@loseerich493 4 жыл бұрын

Best video I've seen on a totally rad product!

@mbmike29 5 жыл бұрын

I *just* ordered the progressive industries hard wired kit yesterday. I wish I would've seen this before then - I love the bluetooth option, I would've went with this unit and saved some money.

@RVgeeks 5 жыл бұрын

Sorry about the timing Mike. Maybe they have a liberal return policy for unopened packages? 😉 Seriously, if you ordered from Amazon, it's no problem.

@alanpetersen4615 3 жыл бұрын

I have an experience which I would like to share. Once upon a time, I installed a 30 amp power plug on the side of my house, to be used for my "Older " RV pad. I didn't think that it would be wired up any differently then a 220V dryer plug, but found out differently after I powered it up, and hooked up the RV. Without the protection of a surge protector, or Autoformer, I powered up the 30 amp pedestal on the side of my house, then plugged in the 30 amp cord from my RV. I immediately herd a popping sound, and saw smoke floating from several appliances. I found that I burned up my Microwave, the electric fireplace, and my 120V to 12V Converter, all because I wired up the pedestal wrong. If I would have used a surge protector, it would have saved all of my appliances, but as it was, it cost me several thousand dollars to replace everything. Therefore, I have a personal testament of the value of a surge protector, and Autoformer. My new RV, has approximately $10,000.00 in Victron Energy solar equipment, which I want to protect. I am going to invest in the surge protector, and Autoformer as described in this video to protect my investment. Thank You

@RVgeeks 3 жыл бұрын

Alan Petersen Oh, so sorry to hear about your experience, Alan. We’ve heard stories like this before, and it’s awful to have something like that happen. We know you’ll have a great experience with Hughes protecting your new rig. Safe travels.

@OurJourneyInMyles 5 жыл бұрын

Been using the Hughes Autoformer since your original video was made, and prompted me to get with the program. Since you are "plugged into the Autoformer Company" so to speak, have they EVER come up with a weatherproof cover for the unit when you have it sitting outside by the pedestal? I was talking to the company President at a rally a ways back, and he said they were thinking about doing that. I even offered to be his test guinea pig. We house our autoformer & Progressive EMS in a large Rubbermaid Tub, which gets the job done, but looks a little wonky! Our Dutch Star DOES NOT have as large of a power bay as your rig.

@RVgeeks 5 жыл бұрын

Sorry, but they don't have a weatherproof autoformer model, and we're not aware of current plans to make one. The Watchdogs are weatherproof though.

@fberger54 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Guys, always enjoy your videos. Happy Trails.

@Assassin1959 5 жыл бұрын

Great video as always!!! I just bought the 50 Amps Watchdog and maybe later I'll see if I can do the rest of your set up. Thanks guy!!!

@RVgeeks 5 жыл бұрын

Excellent! Great to hear.

@danterry6328 5 жыл бұрын

Always a joy to watch your DIY stuff. So you’ve made all these upgrades on the power system, are you satisfied with outcome. And would it be worth the cost?

@RVgeeks 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Dan! As far as the power protection, we're absolutely thrilled with the outcome. But this is the ultimate setup. If someone wants to get the most bang for the buck, as opposed to having it all, the Power Watchdog alone is an amazing value, being less expensive than competitive products, while providing far more features. The autoformer is the most expensive piece, and the only thing you'd be missing without it is the voltage boosting capability. The cord reel is maybe our favorite piece of gear on the whole RV! We love the battery system, but it's a big investment, and may not fit everyone's RVing style. We love it though.

@kurtcleveland8581 5 жыл бұрын

Great video. I am in the planning stages of going full time. Looking at Newmar/Tiffin, in the process I have followed a lot of the information on upgrades and protection. I could never understand why people were plugging protection devices into an external pedestal? It just seems so much more logical and cleaner to build the protection into the coach. Great video and I will definitely be looking into these products.

@jameshodgins1937 5 жыл бұрын

Nice presentation.

@trike-hauler 4 жыл бұрын

With power watchdog Bluetooth app How far away from the watchdog will the signal still reach your phone - to get the voltage & amperage readings

@RVgeeks 4 жыл бұрын

Like other Bluetooth devices, it’s a bit range limited. We’ve never tested, but would say that all throughout the RV and around a typical campsite works fine.

@LivinLifeinDrive 5 жыл бұрын

How crazy! I literally was watching your other video last night. I was wondering if yal used just the autoformer or both. Would you recommend us getting one or the other when first starting out?

@RVgeeks 5 жыл бұрын

Awesome coincidence! If you want to start out with the best bang for the buck, we can't recommend the Power Watchdog highly enough. It provides all the protection, while only missing the ability to boost low voltage, all for a price well below competitors that it far outperforms. We'd start with that, knowing you can always add an autoformer later if you want to.

@miketrabun9352 Жыл бұрын

Any reason why you didn't (or couldn't) use the hardwired model of the Power Watchdog to replace your previous hardwired surge protector? Love all your videos. Thanks for the great work!

@RVgeeks Жыл бұрын

Hi Mike! Great question! We decided to make the setup more modular by going with the plug-in model, but we absolutely could have gone the hardwired route again. Same effect from a great product either way. Love that Hughes offers the choice.

@danross9853 3 жыл бұрын

Well Boys just got off the phone with Hughes and I'm going to setup my 2018 MA 4553 just like yours. Will be great to monitor via bluetooth on my phone. Have you ever had to replace a module in either the Volt Booster or Power Watchdog ? Thanks once again from a fellow Newmar Owner.

@RVgeeks 3 жыл бұрын

That’s awesome, Dan! You will love it! And no, we’ve never had the slightest issue with either of our Hughes units. Awesome products, but knowing a module can be replaced if needed is great additional peace of mind.

@MrJrusselltx 5 жыл бұрын

Great system, but why not put it AFTER the transfer switch so that it protects from the generator as the source, not just the pedestal?

@RVgeeks 5 жыл бұрын

That's a neat idea, Jim. But since the generator is a known, reliable source of steady power, protection from it isn't the kind of issue we all get when we hook up to various park pedestals. But we hadn't thought of it, and will consider a mod based on that, although at first glance, we're thinking that the boosting part of the equation might be less desirable there, as it might mask a slow failure of the generator.

@rjw8316 2 жыл бұрын

Please explain the purpose and/or need to have surge protection from the Autoformer and the Watchdog? I thought that surge protection should not be daisy chained together. The reason I am interested is that I would like to install the Huges Autoformer in my RV in place of my built-in surge protector as I do not have the space to have both. Thanks for your video.

@RVgeeks 2 жыл бұрын

Hey RJW. Primarily, it's because you can't get all the features in one unit. The Watchdog with EPO will automatically cut power at high/low voltage settings... but the Autoformer won't. While the Autoformer will boost low voltage to protect electronics and high-inductance appliences like our air conditioners and residential fridge, which the Watchdog doesn't. Don't know of any specific issue with having the surge protectors in line with one another (Hughes has never indicated it was a problem), so we have ours wired with the Autoformer first in line (closest to the pedestal) so it can boost the power if it's low. Then the Watchdog next, so if the voltage exceeds/drops below the Autoformer threshold, the Watchdog can protect us. If you use JUST the Autoformer, you'll lose the cut-off at high or low voltage. If you only have room for one device... we'd opt for the PowerWatchdog w/EPO (lots of great features and protections), unless you have a specific scenario where you already know you're going to be exposed to low voltage (it's less common). Hope that helps!

@rjw8316 2 жыл бұрын

@@RVgeeks Thanks for the quick reply. It really helps. I have asked Huges for their input on daisy chain surge protectors. Ill let you know their response.

@rjw8316 2 жыл бұрын

@@RVgeeks HI, well, Hughes never got back to me, too busy I guess, so upon further investigation I found that another RV'er had the same question some time back and did get a response from Hughes here it is... "I recently read about this very concern, so I emailed both PI and Hughes (since I had no idea). Hughes replied back saying it was a non-issue. (He also explained MOVs briefly.) From what I can tell by researching the subject, most/all contexts of "don't daisy-chain surge protectors" are about power-strips. I think power-strips tend to be referred to as surge protectors in many discussions. Since power-strips can only support a limited amount of current, there are valid reasons to not daisy-chain them."

@RVgeeks 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for the update! Glad to know that our recollection that what we are doing is optimal and causes no issue as far as Hughes is concerned is awesome.

@RobFomenko 5 жыл бұрын

Not sure why Hughs didn't incorporate this into the autoformer. Since it has almost the same features should be just a simple thing to do, except now they can charge more when you have to buy 2 instead of 1. I have read that autoformers will be soon illegal in RV parks here in the US, due to a change in the electrical code. Wonder if you plan to continue to use them or remove it.... nah don't answer I would keep it too...

@RVgeeks 5 жыл бұрын

The guidelines about electrical code changes are just that..... guidelines. They are not law, as the NEC has no regulatory power, and the changes are under appeal anyway.

@TheArtofRVing 5 жыл бұрын

Love your video.............It is so informative..........thanks..

@bobt1931 4 жыл бұрын

Curious if you had any concerns with the number of plugs being used. Plugged connections can be the source of high heat generation if there is any looseness or issues with an individual connector. I am thinking of doing the same thing that you have done, but have a little bit of concern adding all the connections into the power source.

@RVgeeks 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Bob! You’re right that plugs can be a source of heat, or poor connections. But it’s primarily the plugging and unplugging of them that’s the problem. Very solid, high-quality plugs (which these are), that are left plugged in all the time, aren’t an issue. We almost never have any reason to remove any of these components, since they simply work and don’t need to be touched, so we have never had any problem at all with our set up. We suggest that as long as you’re planning to do the same thing, and leave the components plugged in the vast majority of the time, you should have nothing to worry about.

@timf6916 5 жыл бұрын

Nice, just ordered one. It better be good Hehehehe

@RVgeeks 5 жыл бұрын

No worries! You’re gonna love it. Very cool tech.

@settinger14 3 жыл бұрын

Does the autoformer only apply to power coming in from the pedestal, and not from power coming from the generator?

@RVgeeks 3 жыл бұрын

The way we have ours installed, yes. It’s only inline with shore power. In theory, you could wire it differently so that it boosted either shore or genny power. But since our generator puts out a rock solid, inverter stabilized 120V, we didn’t have a need for that.

@adammelchert 3 жыл бұрын

Isn't the second unit redundant? Hughes has another option to add to the autoformer if u just like the bluetooth monitoring.

@RVgeeks 3 жыл бұрын

There is some redundancy, but the autoformer doesn’t offer high and low voltage cut out. It boosts low voltage as needed, which of course be Power Watchdog doesn’t. We’re also not seeing where they offer Bluetooth as part of an autoformer. Maybe we’re missing it?

@adammelchert 2 жыл бұрын

@@RVgeeks I called hughes and apparently the autoformer protects from low voltage and extremely high voltage only. A moderately high voltage event will trigger your power watchdog to cut the power. When asked why no integrated solution, apparently "the engineer who thought that was a good idea left us years ago"

@eplumer 4 жыл бұрын

Hi guys, have you seen the NEC changes that will likely ban use of autotransformers in RV parks?

@RVgeeks 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Edward. We’re aware of the NEC situation, but they actually act in an advisory capacity and have no regulatory authority. It’s up to local municipalities to regulate codes and it’s unlikely there will be any sudden widespread change. There’s also a challenge being put forward, so it may not stand anyway.

@eplumer 4 жыл бұрын

Interesting, thank you for the follow up

@WilHershberger 5 жыл бұрын

Very nice. Doesn't the new Autoformer have the same surge protection as the watchdog? Why would you use both? Thank you,

@RVgeeks 5 жыл бұрын

Hi Wil! Both have a substantial 4,800 joules of protection. While there is some redundancy of features, the reason we've added the Watchdog is for the bluetooth alerts and the EPO (Emergency Power Off). As we said, it's pretty ultimate protection. If we were recommending one vs the other vs both, when cost is taken into consideration, the Power Watchdog alone is a pretty amazing piece of gear for the money, less expensive than competitors that have a lot fewer features and specs. Without the autoformer, you don't get the voltage boosting ability of course, but all the other protective features are still available in the Watchdog.

@WilHershberger 5 жыл бұрын

@@RVgeeks Thank you. Makes perfect sense.

@MICMEGEE 3 жыл бұрын

I just ordered and received our Hughes Autoformer and Watchdog. We have a 2003 DutchStar that does not have a cord real so I going to install it a little different. My question is does the autoformer get hot? Great video as always.

@RVgeeks 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Mike! We hope you love your Autoformer & Watchdog as much as we love ours! Our Autoformer hasn't ever gotten to a temperature that we'd call "hot", but it does get fairly warm... more so, the worse the incoming voltage is. Our electrical compartment is fairly well filled, but our Autoformer has space on all sides, because Hughes recommends installing it so it has some air/space around it to help it keep cooler. So plan your location accordingly. Hope this helps!

@MICMEGEE 3 жыл бұрын

@@RVgeeks Thanks for your quick reply and it does help. I didn't find anything on spacing around the autoformer so I shot a email to Hughes Autoformers Thanks again.

@ruffieification 2 жыл бұрын

Can I use a 30 to 50 adapter with the Hughes 50 amp autoformer? And 50 amp EPO? I fully realize when doing so I limit myself to 3600watts. Some campgrounds we go to only have 30 amp service. My worry is will the auto transformer not work due to only having 1 hot wire coming in. Same with the EPO, so I usually disconnect the 2 devices so I don’t have any problems when I do this. I have a Hughes 50 amp Autoformer and EPO and love it. I would love to be able to leave it on all the time especially when I get stuck on 30 amp only service.

@RVgeeks 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Marvin! We are in the same situation you are, with a 50 amp RV, and quite often plugged into 30 amp service. You can and should absolutely keep your Hughes units plugged in all the time. It will protect you, and work perfectly. We never unplug ours. The way the 30 amp dog bone is wired, it provides power to both legs, and everything will work great with Hughes protecting your entire rig properly.

@russellbrock7929 3 жыл бұрын

Can you plug your 50amp system into 30amp pedestal with a dogbone adapter? THX

@RVgeeks 3 жыл бұрын

You sure can!! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rbyJdciamqi-nas.html

@lesterwroblewski9863 4 жыл бұрын

If the autoformer is first in line, is the watchdog needed as the autoformer should boost low voltage and take care of spikes?

@RVgeeks 4 жыл бұрын

Great question Lester! The Power Watchdog protects us from very low voltage situations, where the power is even too low for the autoformer to boost it, and very high voltage, where it will cut power altogether. You don't HAVE to have both, but it's the ultimate protection to have both.

@billb6121 5 жыл бұрын

Like your video. Is there any options for power protection after the auto transfer switch for the generator? Guess you need two surge protectors?

@RVgeeks 5 жыл бұрын

Hi Bill. You could wire the surge protector in between the transfer switch and the RV. But that shouldn’t be needed, as the generator is a very stable and reliable source of power.

@Yanmarman1 4 жыл бұрын

Hey guys, didn't know where to post this but I have a 2000 Newmar 3865 Dutch star with almost 200,000 miles on it and love it big time. My question is My living room slide out lights have quit working, they worked but all of a sudden they just quit for no rhym or reason. My manuals show some wiring diagrams but I am unable to find any fuse or wire that blew or came disconnected. Everything else works fine just those lights and I have already checked the switches and there is no power going to switches. What should I do? Thought of calling Newmar and seeing what they might say but I've never called them and I'm sure they could care less with a little guy like me. Any ideas? Thanks

@RVgeeks 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Yanmarman! Wow! 200,000 miles? That's great!!! We hope Newmar built 'em as good in '05!! 😉 Not sure exactly where to suggest you begin on this lighting issue. It's possible it's a fuse... RV manufacturers (Newmar's no exception) seem to like heto sprinkle them all over the RV, without any seeming rhyme or reason! Our 12V living room lights are controlled by a fuse block in the cabinet over our toilet. But we have fuses in the very front driver's-side compartment (mostly chassis-related).... and more behind a black plastic panel in our electrical bay (where the power cord comes in). Plus random, individual, inline ones in some odd places. If you're not seeing power at the switches (not 100% sure Newmar doesn't switch the GROUND wire, so check for continuity with a good ground to see if that's the case or not), you're going to need to find your way "upstream" toward the battery to find out where the failure is. If it's not a fuse... it could also be a bad ground wire... again, on our coach, the ground wires for the "house" electrical loads (like lights) come together at the fuse block in the toilet-room cabinet... not sure if yours would be the same. It's ALSO possible, since the lights are in the slide, that the wire has been compromised/shorted somewhere in the transition between the frame/body and the slide. There could be a pinch point in one of the runs of cable coming up through the slide. Sorry we can't be more specific on this one, but let us know how you make out... or if you have any other questions. We may be able to help you sleuth this out! (although a call to Newmar never hurts... we've always found them to be VERY helpful, and they could be able to point you to something that solves your problem right away! Besides... the worst they can do is say "Nope... can't help ya!" LOL!)

@Yanmarman1 4 жыл бұрын

@@RVgeeks Thank you so much. I will start with calling Newmar just in case they have had this issue before and have a quick fix.

@TWC6724 4 жыл бұрын

Does the portable surge version protect the line and load side like the Surgerguard 34951? Trying to decide between the two.

@RVgeeks 4 жыл бұрын

It does, plus has higher surge protection at a considerably lower price. Nicer interface too. 😊

@bobt1931 4 жыл бұрын

Quick question. I installed the internal hard wire kit today along with my 50A Surge Protector all mounted within the electrical compartment. I have been considering the Autoformer as well. I noticed in the video that your electrical compartment is pretty tight and am wondering if you have any cooling issue with the Autoformer or the Surge Protector? Not sure if fans would be needed if I put it all components in my electrical compartment, but yours is about the same size so curious on your findings to date.

@RVgeeks 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Bob! We do indeed have a lot of stuff packed into our little electrical compartment! But the autoformer, power watch dog, and even the solar controller being in there don’t put off enough heat to cause a problem. We’ve never noticed it being especially hot in there, and have never had any problem with any of the components. If you have something else in there that generates a lot of heat, or you notice it getting especially warm in there, you may have a different situation. But we have no special cooling, and everything works great!

@bobt1931 4 жыл бұрын

@@RVgeeks Thanks for the information.

@ChasingOurSunshine 4 жыл бұрын

Do you need a Power Watchdog with a Hughes Autoformers RV220-50-SP Voltage Booster/Surge 50 Amp

@RVgeeks 4 жыл бұрын

Good question. Technically? No. But it depends on what you are looking to protect your RV from (and whether or not you want to be able to view data about your power usage). The Autoformer provides surge protection and, of course, ensures that the voltage is boosted when possible. But it doesn't offer over/under-voltage protection OR the Bluetooth link to view power status, etc. The Power Watchdog with Auto Shutoff (they offer a model WITHOUT the Auto Shutoff, but we think it's important to have) gives you surge protection, under/over-voltage shutoff, and the Bluetooth data feed. So you can use either one alone... but using the two together (like we do) gives you the most protection from all conditions. We have the Autoformer inline before the Watchdog... so if incoming voltage is low, the Autoformer can boost it. If the incoming voltage goes above/below the bounds of the Autoformer's capabilities, it shuts off it's boost and then the Watchdog can react to the incoming power as appropriate. Hope this helps!

@ChasingOurSunshine 4 жыл бұрын

RVgeeks Thanks you so much and that’s what we were thinking and like the ability to monitor it through the Bluetooth. Do you have issues with the power watchdog losing Bluetooth connection a lot?

@RVgeeks 4 жыл бұрын

We generally just let the power watchdog do its job, and don’t check it that much. But whenever we do, we don’t ever recall the Bluetooth having the slightest problem connecting and staying connected from anywhere in or around the RV.

@ChasingOurSunshine 4 жыл бұрын

RVgeeks- 👋 We bought the Surge-guard & are brand new to KZfaq. Are we allowed to reference your video? And are how do we link to it as we have believed in your advice and recommendations for all our research into buying our RV and heading to full time over the past two years ...please respond to Chasingrvsunshine@gmail.com with a response if possible. We don’t wish to infringe on your privacy. Respectfully Joel & Deb

@RVgeeks 4 жыл бұрын

We set all of our videos to be embeddable, so they can be embedded into any website, and the links can be shared anywhere. Thanks so much! Safe travels - Peter & John

@greggcollins4215 5 жыл бұрын

Is heat buildup in the power bay from all these components a problem? Is it vented? A Master Electrician told us in a Electricians class that electric motors can tolerate without damage 10% over voltage but only 5% under voltage. Maybe it should shut off sooner than a drop to 104 volts.

@RVgeeks 5 жыл бұрын

Hi Gregg. We haven't had any issues with heat build-up in that compartment... and it is NOT vented. The Autoformer stops boosting below 104 volts, but keep in mind that at 104 volts, the Autoformer is boosting by 10%, so your devices/appliances are seeing closer to 114 volts (which is right at the floor of the 5% under voltage a motor can tolerate). The fact that it stops boosting below 104 is why we also have the PowerWatchdog installed downstream from the Autoformer... since once the Autoformer stops boosting, the PowerWatchdog would then see the 104V incoming power and would then cut power to protect all onboard equipment.

@dr.winner2516 5 жыл бұрын

Does the autoformer do anything if the voltage is too high?

@RVgeeks 5 жыл бұрын

No. It simply stops boosting. That's one of the benefits of also using the Power Watchdog (besides all the other features) the EPO function will cut power if it's too high.

@dr.winner2516 5 жыл бұрын

@@RVgeeks Now I get it

@falcon7350 5 жыл бұрын

God the relay in that thing would have to go , sounds like a lost cost EVSS for a EV back in the 90s 3:23 , what do they have in it 500amp GE 3 pole relay?, i would take that apart as soon as i got it and install a better relay for the good that has less sound!, PS not sure how well the texting well work for most like my self as my RV does not have internet all the time for the unit to send out messages

@RVgeeks 5 жыл бұрын

The sound is down in the basement or out at the pedestal, and generally only happens once when you plug in, and once when you disconnect. It's not as loud as it sounds in the video, and really no problem.

@RVgeeks 5 жыл бұрын

Oh, and as for the "texting"... the Power Watchdog doesn't "text" your phone. It's only a bluetooth connection sending an app notification and only works when you are within range (basically in and around the RV). There is a third-party device from rvwhisper.com that makes the connection between the Power Watchdog and the internet so you can receive alerts when you are not onboard... but it does require that your RV have a steady internet connection.

@carpenterfamily6198 5 жыл бұрын

Those watch did alerts and EPO, how fast are they ? Meaning does it respond to very fast & short spikes / dips ? I guess I could check their site.

@RVgeeks 5 жыл бұрын

The alerts happen instantly, but as far as the number of milliseconds response time, we'd have to defer to Hughes for that info.

@eclarkmx 5 жыл бұрын

I have a question for you that is probably unrelated... The cable exits your bus using some sort of a grommet that looks like a great solution can you give me information? My Thor Challenger has a hole with a cap but it's a pain to work with.

@RVgeeks 5 жыл бұрын

Hi Ellis! Unfortunately, that's a factory set-up (and a very good one) from Newmar, and we're not aware of any easy way to retrofit it. Some other manufacturers have similar cord outlets, but not all of them.

@eclarkmx 5 жыл бұрын

I really appreciate you took the time to answer my question. Have a great weekend!

@Chief351L Жыл бұрын

How is the Watchdog any better than the original Southwire hardwire setup?! You lost me when you uninstalled the Southwire for the WatchDog.

@RVgeeks Жыл бұрын

Check the features and specs. The Southwire doesn’t hold a candle to the Power Watchdog. Bluetooth, power reporting, EPO, higher spike & surge protection… and it costs less. Not even close in comparison.

@Assassin1959 5 жыл бұрын

Is there a good way to secure the external power watchdog?

@RVgeeks 5 жыл бұрын

Hi Hector! Yes. There is a steel ring on it designed to allow it to be locked to the pedestal.

@Trishpage312 5 жыл бұрын

Is this only for shore power?

@RVgeeks 5 жыл бұрын

It would also protect you when plugged into an external generator.

@rja12 5 жыл бұрын

Let's see...if I buy the autoformer direct from Hughes ($719) and use the RVGEEKS 10% discount I'll pay $647. Or if I go to Amazon I can get it for $569. Hmmm...that's a tough choice. ;)

@RVgeeks 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the heads up Rod. Last time we checked, the less-expensive ones on Amazon were the old model, but now they're the same: amzn.to/2MZCh50 We'll update the post.

@rja12 5 жыл бұрын

@@RVgeeks just found an even better deal on the 50 amp autoformer. $490 (free ship) with 15% coupon code "SUMMER15" @ Gander Outdoors. I believe that it's the latest version and I just grabbed one.

@maoss40 5 жыл бұрын

Wow that voice is unreal, sounds like TV commercial voice

@fredtew4162 5 жыл бұрын

Please sell me you old stuff mainly surge protector disabled and can't get one thanks

@ziddi2603 5 жыл бұрын

Looks like John and Peter got More Free stuff to put on their coach!

@RVgeeks 5 жыл бұрын

We do get some things at no cost, but we only feature the products that we find to be exceptional in our videos. We're not out for free stuff, and turn down far more than we accept for testing. Manufacturers must agree that we will only recommend their products if we find them to be real benefits to RVing.

@lanksterprice 5 жыл бұрын

Plan on spending $1000 bucks for a 50amp and $450 for 30amp...

@robertgarbe6348 5 жыл бұрын

The autotransformer will be banned in 2020, in NEC updates. Look at Mike Sokol’s stuff

@RVgeeks 5 жыл бұрын

It is only a proposed change.

@robertgarbe6348 5 жыл бұрын

Proposed or not, it would be nice to mention the issues, or was this censored by Hughes? Hmmm.

@RVgeeks 5 жыл бұрын

The back story on this is simple. The owner of a company that makes electrical gear for RV parks is trying to get a rule passed that will force parks to buy his products. It’s a self-serving mission that has nothing going for it but some press that’s scaring people. Hughes censored nothing. We’re just not fear-mongers.

@robertgarbe6348 5 жыл бұрын

Gotcha. I wonder why Mike Sokol seems to have a different view. I believe he is unbiased and very knowledgeable. Kinda confusing.