TESTED: Monstrum Tactical 6-24x50mm G3 Budget FFP Scope

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TESTED: Monstrum Tactical 6-24x50mm G3 Budget FFP Scope

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@theokrueger6286 Жыл бұрын

I own a couple Monstrum scopes and have not been disappointed (yet). I am a total budget buyer and refuse to pay for over priced firearms, equipment, components, gear, etc. Monstrum is a great buy.

@rrudydedogg3779 5 жыл бұрын

The lens cover with the honeycomb is called a "kill flash" and it prevents light reflecting off the lens which could reveal your presence and location.

5 жыл бұрын

Also good complement to a sunshade. Shooting into the sun sucks...

@crashfields14 4 жыл бұрын

Also good for predator hunting.

@katana258 4 жыл бұрын

man these ass wipes know shit

@dominusvitas 4 жыл бұрын

It is military born sunshade

@one-of-us9939 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you sir.

@sonnyburnett2417 5 жыл бұрын

It's a bit frustrating to see experienced shooters not realize their scope base is loose when their groups start doing weird things (it's such a common issue). If your factory rifle comes with a scope base, you're going to need to remove it, degrease the screws and screw holes, and then loctite things back in place. If not, count on it ruining a range trip.

@commonsense5709 Жыл бұрын

Sure helps to add a rubbish scope with a canted reticle into the mix to fix the accuracy problems. These guys were A+ credible in my book up until this Monstrum Tactical promo. This brand is one of the worst if bit THE WORST scopes that money can possibly buy from a company with a very bad history that really dick's you around come warranty time.

@rickycasas7429 7 ай бұрын

@commonsense5709 have you tried one

@cw2a 6 ай бұрын

I have 4. Dont expect them to be as good as my Leupolds but for $$ paid I am NOTHING BUT HAPPY! Also I HAVE HAD to deal with there warrenty/ CS and IT WAS AS ANYONE WOULD EXPECT! ZERO ISSUES.

@garrytalley8009 5 ай бұрын

Some people don't get loose rings so long as they torque the screws to the proper torque. I used to Lock Tite but since seeing a good long-range shooter say he never had issues so long as they were torqued to spec, I have got a torque wrench and followed his advice and like he said I have had zero issues. It makes life easier when it comes time that you may want to use a different set up with new rings as well as optics. If it makes someone feel better by all means use Lock Tite. I used to but don't anymore, but I do make sure everything is torqued to spec.

@Mike-xi4zt 4 ай бұрын

@garrytalley8009 those screws will eventually work loose torqued or un torqued. The torqued ones stay tight on guns that are never shot or used in the field. Been there and done all of that crap.

@Sharky762 5 жыл бұрын

I'd certainly love a long term upgrade video!

@commonsense5709 Жыл бұрын

It will never happen. The scope won't even last a year of normal usage on anything other than a 22LR or bb gun. Good luck cashing in their so called lifetime warranty. Cone warranty time they will give you all kinds of vs excuses not to warranty it. You'll find out the hard way.

@garrytalley8009 5 ай бұрын

@@commonsense5709How would you know? I think you are assuming. One would hope that you never need to go to a warranty issue. Most honorable warranties come with overpriced scopes that the price covers much more than any returns they may get. Sure, they are made better, but not thdy are overpriced for what they are anyway.

@scottessman9605 16 күн бұрын

I've got 2. Both on .308s. Bolt and AR. Great deal. Two years old.

@WestDesertShooter 5 жыл бұрын

This was a great video Gavin, seemed a bit more relaxed with an organic conversation which was great for this video. I really like that you found a percentage for how far off the adjustment increments were it was a genuine review of an affordable option. Thanks for sharing!

@Ultimatereloader 5 жыл бұрын

West Desert Shooter Thanks Logan! You’ve been ROCKING it lately- we need to shoot together soon!

@travissteele6238 9 ай бұрын

@Ultimatereloader Hello I was wondering you know anything about monstrum tactical 5-25x50 riflescopes

@mobilegamersunite 10 ай бұрын

4 years later, the G3 is amazing value! 👏

@DEllis24RIP Жыл бұрын

I just sent mine back .. The scope got black spots on the inside of the reticles .. Monstrum Tactical said send it back no problem. I'm very impressed with there scopes.

@commonsense5709 Жыл бұрын

You're incredibly lucky unlike most others who try to get Monstrum Tactical to actually honor their own warranty.

@CraYzJake1 5 жыл бұрын

Add another vote for continuing updates.

@Kesrick 5 жыл бұрын

I have two Monstrums, one is the 4-16x50 FFP and I am quite happy with them for my use. BTW - The "vent shade" is called a Killflash. It is used to kill sunlight glint off smooth glass which would give away your position or get the attention of your prey.

@rfcdgaf 4 жыл бұрын

Or in USMC terms, 2 pieces of tape with a rectangle cut out of it lmao

@TeensierPython 4 жыл бұрын

They also do that in the army. It’s a field expedient method of hiding scope reflections. Kill flash is just a better way.

@patrickwaddell3685 4 жыл бұрын

Thomas Schell 4:39 on the video almost lost me. How can you trust someone’s opinion that isn’t a subject matter expert. Glad you caught that too!

@AM-dc7pv 4 жыл бұрын

@@patrickwaddell3685 Granted, while this industry isn't very esoteric, not all users/etc would probably know what a ARD is. As per trusting opinions though, very easily as far as trust in that they'd given me their own *'opinion'* but if I'm looking for "answers" and rather, answers that I could quote someone on and use per se for precision long range shooting [for work] or manhunting with, you're right. I'd probably look for a more scientific or primary source, experienced shooter or a SME. In any which case, however, I highly doubt that there's anybody in the audience looking to go Bob Lee Swagger in the sandbox with this glass.

@jenky1044 4 жыл бұрын

@Thomas Schell I own 2 also. 6-24x50 - G2 3-12x42 - G2 And I like them both. My next one is gonna be the 4-14x44 - G3

@jontee3437 5 жыл бұрын

This video right here is what scope reviews should modeled after. There needs to be long term scope evaluations with tracking info and error info recorded and presented. Sure there can be initial impressions but 1200 rounds and thorough testing will give people much better information then just opening the box, spouting the bs info sheet from the company, and shooting three groups at 50 yards then saying, well some people will like this scope and some people wont.

@commonsense5709 Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't even bother wasting 100 rounds of ammo on this scope. The damn reticle is canted and I'm very surprised there's no mention of even considering sending it back for a replacement. It's also very rare to see a long term scope review from reviewers who don't actually use the scopes on their own guns who only make KZfaq videos. Monstrum Tactical scopes aren't even worth mounting on your own gun.

@bradroland2545 Жыл бұрын

i had to roll out after you didnt know what a anti reflection device was

@PatriotPaulUSA 4 жыл бұрын

Really thorough review. If you go up a little bit into the 500-1000 range you can get dead perfect tracking as shown by Athelon and Primary Arms and a handful of others. I just ordered a Arken Optics EP4 6-24X50 FFP MIL with Zero Stop - 34mm Tube for 599.99 They Gaurantee Precision Tracking as well as give a lifetime No BS warranty. They have excellent reviews on the googletube. There are a few others but not many, It takes some hardcore searching but there are a few before jumping into the Nightforce, Stiener, US.Optics etc. You know the 2,3,4000.00 scopes that are beyond reach for many of us.

@ruthlessone3k 4 жыл бұрын

I had a gen 1 or gen 2 and had to send it back. The features were great, and the glass was good considering the price, but it just wouldn't hold zero.

@DeltaD80 5 жыл бұрын

There is 4 versions. All the features that you mentioned. Its GH. Very similar to the G3 It fits between the G2 And G3. It has the brass insert as well. IMO for best price on Monstrum product I suggest getting subscribed to their Email and being patient. I picked my GH with upgrade rings for $170.

@MutarFuqueer 4 жыл бұрын

I typically tend to by Nikon scopes for long range shooting, and they have been great! I decided to try a Monstrum 6x24-50mm for my T/C LRR .243 and I was really impressed! Was it 100% as good as the Nikon? No, but for the money, I was amazed with the quality and what comes with it! I would recommend it, especially for somebody just getting into long range shooting if they are trying to decide if it's right for them or not.

@jesusisalive3227 4 жыл бұрын

If you want another Nikon you better get one, they are not going to be making scopes any longer.

@commonsense5709 Жыл бұрын

Why even consider buying a Nikon when they no longer honor their lifetime warranty? Just as bad as buying a Monstrum Tactical come warranty time you will find out the hard way.

@tom.northshore Жыл бұрын

I've been looking at this scope for my Ruger American (.243 Win). This may just be the perfect one for it after reading this comment, thank you!

@wahuuka1 5 жыл бұрын

The honeycomb insert is a kill flash. It keeps light from reflecting off your glass which could give away your position to someone opposite your muzzle.

@Ultimatereloader 5 жыл бұрын

Not something most people need then, I don't thing the military uses this scope :)

@macgyver5108 5 жыл бұрын

@@Ultimatereloader not just for hunting people, keeps other critters from seeing you too...

@rdsii64 4 жыл бұрын

With reference to tracking errors, I would like to see how this scopes compares to other scopes in its price range. Primary arms has some optics in this price range, as well as some other brands. I would love to see a head to head tracking test.

@djdrack4681 Жыл бұрын

I agree. I was initially looking at something like 6-18x50 or 6-24x50 but realizing that 6x isn't great at close range I started looking at 3-18 or 4-18/24. The prices rapidly jump past 500 and even 750 (2022), and so a reliable scope that can be worked around the error margin is one thing if its sub-300$

@commonsense5709 Жыл бұрын

Arken 4-16x50 SH4 is under $300 and has a 100% tracking guarantee and they even send you a prepaid return shipping label if you ever need to use their lifetime warranty so you won't be out of pocket for return shipping. Perfect tracking and easy to set zero stop are Arken's strong point. The EP5 has nicer Japanese ED glass and the hew lightweight EPL4 models are worth checking out too. The SH4 6-24x50 is the only model I wouldn't recommend due to mediocre glass in thus model and recommend the EP models instead.

@thetuckers5156 3 жыл бұрын

I take it we didn’t get enough comments to see another video. I did end up building this scope because of this video, and I absolutely love it for my application. I’m interested in what happened 1 year later!!!

@commonsense5709 Жыл бұрын

Lucky if it even lasted 1 year later.

@thetuckers5156 Жыл бұрын

@@commonsense5709 two years running and it still shoots. Although I use it hunting pigs and deer. So only 500 rounds a year max?.?.

@commonsense5709 Жыл бұрын

The center dot is really huge it must cover up the entire pig at 200 yards.

@ErikS308 5 жыл бұрын

You can negate the tracking error by using the reticle for your holds. Just run the load data through iStrelok and match your reticle to one on their list.

@Ultimatereloader 5 жыл бұрын

That's one thing I'm going to incorporate into future testing- validate reticle holdover accuracy. Kind of like box test....

@marvinywong 5 жыл бұрын

Definitely would follow a long term upgrade series! 👍👍👍

@scottbeverly188 4 жыл бұрын

Updates please and thanks for this video. Not everyone can afford the high dollar scopes and this video gives us options with realistic expectations.

@commonsense5709 Жыл бұрын

Arkens are a much better alternative.

@hardybirch3630 4 жыл бұрын

This is really helpful and informative for the everyday range shooter with or without budget constraints. Thanks and please plan more videos like this.

@poulo69 5 жыл бұрын

The discrepancy in the turrets can be accounted for in your ballistic app. I use iStrelok and you have the option to tell it exactly what the click value is.

@Ultimatereloader 5 жыл бұрын

Good to know. But you can't correct the misaligned reticle. :(

@ajinvista 2 жыл бұрын

Have a Gen 2 and about 2k+ rounds on a 16in Bushmaster XM15E2S . I love my Monstrum and glad I went with it instead of spending hundreds more for the same thing from other name brands. Has held zero since first rounds, glass is great for the price point, sure a $1500+ scope will have a little better glass but for a good budget build this scope is excellent.

@TexasTrained 4 жыл бұрын

ya need to check out the ARKEN scope. when you get a chance. I have 1-8 Monstrum scope and its nice

@mastodon24 5 ай бұрын

I stumbled across this optic on eBay. Looked for reviews on KZfaq and happened across your channel. Subscribed within the first 1/4th. Solid presentation

@mathetes7759 5 ай бұрын

I put a Monstrum S330P 3X Prism Scope on a .300 Blackout on an AR platform, I loved it! I sold the AR & the optic went with it, but I'm getting another one!

@Belbivdevoe 5 жыл бұрын

Should have bought an SWFA..that is a copy of the primary arms.. at least primary has a good warranty track record

@Ultimatereloader 5 жыл бұрын

This channel is all about showing as many products as possible, we'll put SWFA on the list.

@macgyver5108 5 жыл бұрын

@@Ultimatereloader SWFA is LIGHT YEARS ahead of monstrum scopes. Flawless tracking (even better than nightforce) at a ridiculously low price point and Japanese glass, they should cost more like $1k instead of $299.

@commonsense5709 Жыл бұрын

@@macgyver5108 Can't put the Japan made SWFA SS scopes in the same category as Chinese Monstrum Tactical scopes they are in opposite sides of the spectrum in regards to sheer quality durability reliability and absolute value for the money.

@stevemelton4128 3 жыл бұрын

6.5 Creedmoor is an awesome round. I love mine. And also shot placement is key.

@SVTsupercharged 4 жыл бұрын

I'm using the First focal plane 350 dollar scope with German made glass from Arken Optics. It's an amazing scope, someone needs to do a video on it.

@commonsense5709 Жыл бұрын

At least Arheb gas a 100% tracking guarantee and actually honors their own warranty unlike Monstrum Tactical.

@COPPERMOUNTAINCOINS. 5 жыл бұрын

I bought a scope at gander outdoors , it was a cheapo one I bought in a pinch it cost 80 some odd dollars after tax and I put it on my deer gun ( savage 308) I took it out back and sighted it in at 150 yards it was shooting a quarter inch. group so I called it good, I've had that scope now for about 10 years, it's only got knocked out of alignment once ( when it fell off my 4 wheeler) and has helped me take deer every year out to 250 yards and I shoot it every month, 18x18 inch targets out to 400 yards ( my eyesight is going to pot) but that cheapo scope has kept serving me well.

@paulgrogan8032 3 жыл бұрын

I was really intrigued by this scope and it's affordable capability. But I spent another hundee for the diamondback 4x16x42 ffp based on the vortex's pyramid style m.o.a. retical and have not been dissapointed.

@lucass4758 5 жыл бұрын

Love to see your long term update. I’d let Eric know to potentially mentally prepare for a barrel burn down. I just lost mine at 1,800 rounds. Waiting on a replacement from Patriot Valley Arms now.

@ericpeterson2538 5 жыл бұрын

i'm ready for it, already been researching new barrels. did you replace with factory or aftermarket?

@lucass4758 5 жыл бұрын

Eric Peterson aftermarket from Patriot Valley Arms, they makes pre-fits for the Ruger Americans. Approximate 14-16 week lead time though because they are a smaller shop and do more than barrels. They turn out some really nice equipment. The barrel will arrive to me “finished” and threaded 5/8x24 for $525....all I’ll need to do is spin it onto the action and use the Go/No-Go gauges, and torque down the barrel nut

@davidwagoner2631 5 жыл бұрын

You can program the correction into Strelok Pro. You can tell it exactly how far each click moves the recticle

@Ultimatereloader 5 жыл бұрын

But you can't correct for mis-aligned reticle :(

@davidwagoner2631 5 жыл бұрын

@@Ultimatereloader I agree. While I like the locking turrets on this scope I think spending a little bit more and getting the Midas Tac like you have is a better option. Keep up the good work!

@Rowrin 2 жыл бұрын

I had a fixed 3x prism from monstrum break once... The internal piece of glass where the etched reticle broke loose from it's internal housing and now just rattles inside the scope body. It's impossible to use as zero will shift with every shot like 40 minutes or w/e the full range of adjustment of the scope was. This happened when shooting the mighty-strong recoiling 5.7x28... /s Ever since then I've stayed away from their products lol.

@commonsense5709 Жыл бұрын

I bet they really dicked you around with why they WON'T HONOR THEIR OWN WARRANTY. None of their scopes are meant to last. Only idiots buy Monstrum Tactical brand scopes. I was one of them till I personally got burnt TWICE they won't honor their own warranty on their own cheap defective Chinese crap.

@commonsense5709 Жыл бұрын

At least Arken sells heavy duty cheap Chinese crap and actually honors their own warranty and sends you a prepaid return shipping label for warranty.

@bstarkey54 5 жыл бұрын

Would love to see long term updates on this rifle. Thanks for the ones you have done. Great info.

@Ultimatereloader 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Brian!

@BlAcKVeNuM911 10 ай бұрын

How has this optic held up? Was about to drop ~$800 on a 5-25x56 strike eagle... but this has me intrigued for an AR10.. @@Ultimatereloader

@wvXvxvXvw 4 жыл бұрын

My budget build rifle is a PSA AR10. It has this Monstrum 6-24 G3, a knock off Atlas bipod and a 20" 6.5 Creedmoor barrel. It's capable of putting 3 rounds touching at 200 yards if I do my part. I also have an 18" 308 upper that I use on it when I'm out of 6.5 rounds. I shoot whatever I can find cheap out of it. Lately its been Wolf steel($7 a box) and Aguila brass($10 a box). That upper has a 3-12x42 Monstrum on it with a Magpul bipod. It is good for 1.5" groups at 100 yards. For the Creedmoor setup I have about $1,000 in the gun. That's the scope, bipod and complete AR10. I can't complain about that.

@Pioneer1776 5 жыл бұрын

Yes make a full makeover of the rifle and what or why you changed parts

@douglasbattjes3991 3 жыл бұрын

The honey comb is also to cut down on the glint from the scope, someone is looking for you they won't get your reflection back. And have the similar scope , made my own zero stops for mine, always returns to 0 on elevation

@webmandman Жыл бұрын

Dude I learned something very important here and that's the key take away from having an error margin. As long as the error margin is consistent one can compensate and work with it. Plus I now know how to test for that error margin. Awesome video! Thank you!

@garrytalley8009 5 ай бұрын

That may be nice to know but seriously are you that good at math to be able to compensate on the fly? Much easier with true adjustments and using tables. Just being truthful about it. Personally, I own one of these scopes and don't shoot the super long-range stuff and only have shots to 250 yards at my farm where I hunt. Great you learned something. Me too. A long-range shooter may be better to get out the pocketbook for something else they can use an app for. One can get that for as little as $100 more.

@twissted1277 5 жыл бұрын

Impressive is a Reiter Tactical scope from Vetor Optics. The Glass is HD and uses a 35mm tube!

@Ultimatereloader 5 жыл бұрын

Interesting, will take a look!

@user-nf3th4sy2q 5 жыл бұрын

@@Ultimatereloader скажите, как избежать подделки при покупке такого прицела ?

@scarter176 4 жыл бұрын

Those are fairly big errors on windage and elevation. Did you visit with Monstrum about it ?

@commonsense5709 Жыл бұрын

Monstrum Tactical won't even honor their own warranty so why bother?

@usa5865 4 жыл бұрын

You absolutely don't need more magnification you need clear glass and accurate adjustments. I shoot at 1000+ regularly and over 15x actually hurts you because it magnifies mirage. Im not knocking monstrum, I have no experience with them but i personally own 2 athlon optics the talos and the ares. Ones 270 bucks the other is 900. Both are ffp, super clear with no chromatic shift and the tracking is absolutley spot on and repeatable. The ares is a 4.5-27x50 over 300 yards i max it at 12x for clarity. For bullseye grouping at short range i crank it up. The talos is 4-14x44 and plenty for 1k. Spend you money on clarity not magnification

@commonsense5709 Жыл бұрын

Spend your money on reliability from companies that actually honors their own warranty. Unfortunately Monstrum Tactical already stuck out TWICE sucking around with me not honoring their own warranty.

@golfmike304 4 жыл бұрын

Definitely want to see a long term video. Love that set up.

@338bigguns 5 жыл бұрын

Good video guyz. This scope is exactly the same as a Vector sold by Dvor. I have 2 8x32x50's. Comes with the same goodies that your Monstrum. Same retical to. Their original was priced at around 489 then reduced down to under 250.

@johndunn6529 5 жыл бұрын

I would like to see another long term update. I just purchased the rifle and I"m in the process of buying the scope. Please do an update on this rifle and scope.

@commonsense5709 Жыл бұрын

Do yourself a favor and stay away from Monstrum Tactical. Don't find out the hard way you got ripped off.

@tcmoney1321 5 жыл бұрын

definitely would like a long term update. I bought one in 308 and would like to see more!!

@commonsense5709 Жыл бұрын

It'll never happen. Lucky if the scope even lasts a year of normal usage. They wouldn't run such a POS scope on their own rifle no way. Good luck with their warranty they will just BS you why they won't honor their own warranty.

@MarlyGnar 4 жыл бұрын

Got the 1-6x24 G3 in the mail today, put it on a 7.62x39 AK pattern rifle, zeroed and held after aprx. 200 rnds! I'd say impressive for a $200 optic. Very feature full, hopefully stays zeroed!

@commonsense5709 Жыл бұрын

Hope it stays zeroed.

@terrylynne8208 4 жыл бұрын

Tip for getting your scope exactly level if on any rail if it’s flat and the scope bottom also is flat. No levels needed. Get out of your toolbox auto type,likely in your garage tool box. Use all the blade# you need to just be able to slide the blades in between the rail and scope. Bingo done.. Leave it until you snug a coupe of screws on the scope rings. Putting a level on the Ele cap/turret is not always flat 100%. To set reticle I use The Plumb bob, and you can do a tracking test,with that Bob string.

@blackout9814 5 жыл бұрын

yes plz on rifle update

@lonniehall9006 Жыл бұрын

That honey comb cover, keeps the lenses from giving a flash out to people and game you are hunting.

@usmcmma 4 жыл бұрын

How does this compare to the Athlon Argos BTR? I picked one up on sale for 279.99 and aside from the eye relief and mushy turrents I LOVE it. It Competes with my Vortex PST gen 1 and beats my diamondback tactical hands down. I have a cheap savage axis that needs glass!

@commonsense5709 Жыл бұрын

At least the Athlon is going to be reliable compared to the Monstrum Tactical and Athlon won't give you any BS if it ever comes to having to use their warranty. Monstrum is already known to not honor their own warranty.

@usmcmma Жыл бұрын

@@commonsense5709 Thanks, I'll stick to trying to find a second gen 1 BTR.

@arl0xen551 4 жыл бұрын

Excellent video, excellent rapport with your co-host. Clicked on the video because of Amazon pushing monstrom so hard, I had to know what you thought of the brand, and if you were thorough or a shill. I had figured Monstrom was purely an airsoft/ bottom end product. After watching the video, I decided I need to be subscribed and notified. Oh, please continue to update this post.

@commonsense5709 Жыл бұрын

Monstrum Tactical may be better served for airsoft or 22LR or bb guns. They aren't built for reliability.

@sgt5310 5 жыл бұрын

Long term update please!

@rdsattube 5 жыл бұрын

Would like to see a follow up review. Always interested in less expensive solutions and curious to know if the correcting the deficits of a budget rifle like this wind up costing as much as just buying greater quality up front.

@lucass4758 5 жыл бұрын

Depending on your application most of the “deficits” of this rifle are DIY cost-free fixes. Loctiting/torquing down the scope base, sand out the barrel channel to keep the stock from touching the barrel...and play with the trigger/trigger spring. This rifle also benefits from the use of a cheek riser with MOST scope setups. After doing those things I was consistently shooting 1/2 MOA out to 700 yards with factory Hornady ammo. And got down to consistent 0.3-0.35 MOA with my handloads. Lost my barrel at 1,800 rounds so I’m hoping my new Replacement barrel from Patriot Valley Arms will shoot as good(but I’m expecting it will be better)

@commonsense5709 Жыл бұрын

Add an unreliable scope prone to breakage from a BS company that won't even honor their own warranty into the mix then you got a real winner here.

@mattyolo 3 жыл бұрын

Falcon M18+ FFP also a great budget option. Shot it out to 1600yrds on my .308 with great results

@kentrumm1385 5 жыл бұрын

I would suggest the tall target test for scope level and tracking. Bryan Litz has a great video online at NSSF.

@Ultimatereloader 5 жыл бұрын

Cool- thanks for the tip- I'll check that out!

@charlesmckinley29 5 жыл бұрын

Yes I would like to see a long term update with cost of upgrades. I would also like to hear if he would go budget again or get a rifle with some of the upgrades he added. Thanks

@MrRebTyree 5 жыл бұрын

Great video, I would also like to see a long term update on the rifle and scope combination! Scope is impressive at this price point. The only major concern is the reticle alignment. I would be curious if the manufacturer would correct the issue with the scope. Awesome video as always! Keep us updated on this rifle and scope combination.

@commonsense5709 Жыл бұрын

There won't be a long term update since this scope definitely won't hold up. Might be ok for a 22LR or bb gun though.

@Mark_Spivey 5 жыл бұрын

Great video! I would really like to see a review and evolution of the rifle. Thanks for all the effort.

@jerrymcmackin1867 4 жыл бұрын

Love to see another update. Especially since I just purchased this rifle based on your opinion.

@countryboysteve 2 жыл бұрын

I have owned one of these gen 2 scopes for nearly 3 years now. With better than 1000rds down range behind a .223 rem 700 adl. I can say that there are things I like and things I hate. Likes 1. It looks great 2. Feels solid 3. Turrets track well 4. The ffp reticle is fine with clear markings and consistent increments. 5. Zoom is smooth and field of view is good. Bad. 1. It is HEAVY I didn't realize just how much it would bother me but it is nearly twice the weight of my vortex of similar spec 2. The illuminator died on the 3 push and monstrum told me tuff stuff they weren't going to do anything. 3. Low light is about the same as a buckmaster or prostaff scope. I can shoot a solid 45 mins longer with the vortex 4. Although the turrets track and return well they aren't exact. Just like these guys found 1 click is more like 1.2clicks. I have gotten used to it and consistently shoot out to 500 yards. But the adjustment is significantly different on this scope vs others. 5. The finish has begun to peel. Not totally it's fault but I hate to see that fde finish disappear. 6. The gradient or haze at higher magnification is as bad or worse than the 59.00 pinty scope on my air rifle. Anything above 18 and it really starts to lack if light isn't right. 7. Probably my biggest complain other than weight is the eye box/relief. You have to be dead on exact with this thing. If you don't have good technique you will after using it. Of the dozen scopes I own from 40.00-500.00 this one by far hands down has the smallest margin of error so bad that I have yet to let someone shoot it that didn't have to do the fish around in circles trying to see through it. 1/4 "to the side and the whole picture is gone.

@commonsense5709 Жыл бұрын

Ahh first hand experience of their bullcrap warranty. Yep they make all kinds of BS excuses NOT to honor their own warranty.

@LiquidColourDesignBallycarry 3 жыл бұрын

Just to confirm please as I think it was slight inaccuracy in communication when shooting a test for scope alignment and tracking. After shooting center you go up 5 then go left 5 you would need to go right 10 then down 10 then left 10 then up 5 then right five to be back on center? Just checking as wrong information can be bad!

@raquaro1 8 ай бұрын

Are you still using this scope 4 years later? Curious about its durability. Good review. Thorough!

@christopherwarner2210 4 жыл бұрын

I'd love to see more on the Ruger Go Wild! Since the 1st video i went out and bought one and the more info and ideas i get the better! Thanks guys! Keep up the good work your videos are great, and very helpful!

@delete300 4 жыл бұрын

Buddy I saw the video today, driving 2hrs to pick one up tomorrow!

@axelec 2 жыл бұрын

I have access to a flag pole that works great for the vertical setting. How handy..Cheers

@GibsonLP2010 5 жыл бұрын

Gavin.... During the intro is you shooting a gun with a add on cheek riser pad on the stock. Which one is it and do you like it? Does it stay put?

@Ultimatereloader 5 жыл бұрын

That's Eric, not me! :)

@TheLesporter 3 ай бұрын

The plumb bob will be pointed towards the sky if you installed it south of the equator, wouldn't it? 🤣

@brandonwoods2985 4 жыл бұрын

Your video reviews are very scientific and precise and of incredible quality. I appreciate your work and I can see why you would make a fantastic reloader and machinist.

@justa3v619 5 жыл бұрын

I have the 4-16x50 ffp on my budget 224 valk and so far its been awesome. Tracks like its should holds zero and super clear for the price I actually got mine an open box for 119$ Ive only used it out to 600yds but so far so good love it for the price. But if I were to spend the full 229$ that im finding them for Id rather opt for the 4-14x primary arms ffp

@joearledge Ай бұрын

4:55 you guys seriously don't know what a kill-flash/ anti-reflection device (ARD) is...??? How long have you been shooting??

@davidunderwood3605 5 жыл бұрын

Some of your error percentages could have been in your reticle allignment as this can deffantly multiply as yardage is increased.

@commonsense5709 Жыл бұрын

Scope with canted reticle belongs in the trash after Monstrum Tactical won't honor their own warranty.

@repentant 9 ай бұрын

The honey comb is to keep from giving away your position to quarry, or enemies. It reduces glint.

@SteveChishamSr Жыл бұрын

I am happy with the 7mm Rem Mag. I would use either one

@TerraFirmaX 4 жыл бұрын

yes on the long term update

@francoisabrie6425 5 жыл бұрын

Like your test and review was awesome. Can you test a Leapers UTG 8x32x56

@commonsense5709 Жыл бұрын

Have a couple of them and they held up fine over the years but their glass gets milky past 24x. The Vector Sentinel has much better glass for a lot cheaper ($160).

@eddierector4014 5 жыл бұрын

A full story absolutely

@walmartbrand630 7 ай бұрын

the honey comb is called a "Kill Flash" it stops glinting. More of a tactical/military accessory. Very nice it comes with it though.

@rdsii64 3 жыл бұрын

I know this is an old video. With that said, I believe some of your better ballistic applications allow you to input your scopes tracking error. Since the tracking error of this scope is consistent and repeatable, the right ballistic application makes this a non issue. It just so happens that I'm looking for scope that doesn't cost a kings ransom and has features I can actually use. This one may fit the bill.

@commonsense5709 Жыл бұрын

Better off buying an Arken. Preferably the EP lines.

@stinkbaitdawelder2964 4 жыл бұрын

15% error = 85% right. Spend an extra 50$ and buy a SWFA? I am curious though, I would be willing to pick one up for a little savage axis 270 I won last year.

@evadevries2952 4 жыл бұрын

SWFA all day

@commonsense5709 Жыл бұрын

There's absolutely no comparison a POS cheap Chinese scope vs already proven Japan made scope. This is a very laughable question. Comparing a SWFA scope that will probably never ever need to be sent in for warranty.

@edwardknoff6186 3 жыл бұрын

I bought this scope and it is everything they say it is. I only wish they would provide Torque Values for mounting the rings, as well as the scope rings.

@jeffjefferson2676 3 жыл бұрын

The tracking not really being spot on was a bit of a disappointment, while i thought this was really the way to go for the money. Maybe they will come up with a version 4 that does fix everything. That would be really interesting. Im keeping this scope in mind. Maybe its something i would want to get. Greetings, Jeff

@commonsense5709 Жыл бұрын

Biggest concern is Monstrum Tactical aren't built to last and their company has a very terrible history of not honoring their warranty.

@Dfour 3 жыл бұрын

Box test is pretty cool

@bstanley6146 5 жыл бұрын

Please run a long term update for this scope and rifle.

@commonsense5709 Жыл бұрын

Rifle is probably still working while the Monstrum scope is already in the trash a long time ago.

@sorry...nowbased 3 жыл бұрын

I have the G2 version of this scope on a .308 MVP and love the combo. It's the most accurate budget setup I have. I harvested a whitetail last fall with it. The doe was starting to bolt and light was fading quick. I would absolutely trust it taking big game at longer ranges.

@m.od.3116 Жыл бұрын

I was thinking of this same scope for same set up except my 308 mvp lc. Ita the one on the mdt chassis. How is it still holding.up?

@sorry...nowbased Жыл бұрын

@@m.od.3116 just harvested a buck and doe with it this fall/winter. Still holding at around .75 MOA when I do my part. I like it for the winter season because I really don't care if it gets snow and ice on it or gets banged around in and out of the tree stand

@tonydowd8566 5 жыл бұрын

This was a fun video to watch. Great info.

@Ultimatereloader 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Tony!

@ricdiamondhandsflair7208 4 жыл бұрын

Love the info. I would like to see a long term update. 👍

@brendanmarriott661 3 жыл бұрын

Just spend 50 more bucks and get an SWFA

@Hill_Billy_Without_A_Hill 5 жыл бұрын

Primary Arms is worth a look too.

@Ultimatereloader 5 жыл бұрын

Yes, lots of people saying that :)

@terrylynne8208 4 жыл бұрын

I won’t use a 2nd focal plane mildot dot,on max power is the only way it’s on. As you know FFP are same all the power ranges.

@hotspur4237 2 жыл бұрын

I bought a G2 a few years ago. I sighted in the winter time late in the day facing northwest. Naturally, it was hard to see. Fast forward to warmer weather and longer days. I put a shade on the scope. The sun wasn’t low, and it was still hard to see. What the…? The chromatic aberration was terrible. The scope had a large yellow fringe. I replaced it with a Primary Arms 4-14x44 ffp that was much clearer. I will say the company was good to work with though. I lost one of the turret caps somehow. I contacted the company to purchase one. They sent a replacement which arrived in a few days. No charge.

@henrymaccus Жыл бұрын

This was 3 years ago. I would not be surprised if Monstrum fixed their tracking issue. They seem to be pretty good folks.

@ronaldcoleman1323 5 жыл бұрын

Great show guys. Thank you.

@Ultimatereloader 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ronald!

@kevinkorsund1844 5 жыл бұрын

I would like to see the long term upgrade vid.

@wildlandoutdoors51 5 жыл бұрын

Would zero stop shims like those used for the swfa ss scopes work for this optic? Im sure you could make some if they would.

@Ultimatereloader 5 жыл бұрын

No idea :)

@wildlandoutdoors51 5 жыл бұрын

@@Ultimatereloader sounds like a test is in order :)

@commonsense5709 Жыл бұрын

3 years later comes Arken to the rescue. There's absolutely no point in buying from such a shady brand that sells inferior substandard Chinese scopes with extremely poor QC who won't even honor their own warranty.

@commonsense5709 Жыл бұрын

You are comparing one of the best performing well proven rugged reliable budget Japan made SWFA SS scopes to one of if not the worst Chinese scopes you can possibly buy. Only an Arken would be more of a fair comparison Chinese vs Japanese.

@kevinbeasley1615 3 жыл бұрын

I really would like to see an update on it

@commonsense5709 Жыл бұрын

They aren't dumb enough to actually use the scope on their own rifles.

@pauli2559 3 жыл бұрын

I would like to see updates. I have two son's that could learn how to improve their rifles and learn how changes can be learning how to problem solve.