Ok, thanks!

Thanks :)

Thanks you :)

I connected a Sega MS to mine 😂

I’d do the NES, Sega Genesis, Super NED, Atari 800XL, and Apple IIc+ with my Power Mac 8500, and later with my Power Mac G3 tower. Annoyed me when Apple killed support for video in/out with OS X.

Yes, but for many years I thought that drives from this era were affected too. Because all my IBM drives from the early 2000s died. In hindsight, I probably killed them with insufficient cooling

How about VARTA batteries? ;)

@@Epictronics1 VARTA Assault and Batteries.

Probably one of the last before they started with the G rating?

It is among the last that uses IBM's designation (i.e. 603). Apple skipped the 604 and used the 7xx series for their next generation, and called it G3.

​​@@bikkiikun The PowerMac 7600, 8500, 8600, 9500, and 9600, all used 604 CPUs, as well as the derivative clones. Apple did not skip it. The 604 descendant in the 620 was however not adopted by Apple.

@@Dan-TechAndMusic : Thanks for the clarification, I really missed those. For me, the 604e is the CPU that runs beasts like IBM's F50 (used in old Full Flight Simulators).

Cool, I didn't know this, thanks

I think peoples' hesitation with this method is that they imagine it's pulling the pad lead. But SMD electrolytics have a very thin terminal lead interface. When you push down and twist, you're breaking that slender lead away from the pad lead which has very little mechanical resistance. I agree this is the way to go.

Absolutely. I used to abhor the idea, but I've lost more compromised pads due to caps that didn't want to let go with heat, than those that I've just twisted off. If you lose a pad when twisting the cap off, it wasn't attached to the substrate anymore anyway, and a repair was inevitable. May as well make life easy on yourself. PS., if there's glue, *definitely* pull the cap off first. Fighting thermals AND adhesive is a sure way to damage the PCB with heat.

pro tip. If IPA doesn't work, try Windex to clean the heads

Just use tweezer solder.

@@kapilsds7 "just". That's another tool your need to buy

@@Nukle0n With that "tool" that cost me around $25 completely removed my anxiety with two leg smd components.

Well, it was a five-hour drive one way. So, I had to put some effort into it :)

Thanks! Always happy to bring out the C64 :)

This still holds true. My recently replaced iMac took a fraction of the deskspace required by my PC. It was less upgradeable and more expensive. And yet the user experience compared to my Windows 11 PC was worth the extra cost.

I think the 225 was available in beige (platinum?)

Thanks!

Thanks for the feedback! I'll keep learning and improving

I would agree! :)

I believe the 5400/5500 were not crippled like the 52xx/53xx, but some Australian 5500 did not come with L2 cache... My 5320 was fully loaded but massively hobbled...

Thanks!

Thanks!

Why would a digital camera need an analogue capture card to transfer the video?

Thanks. That was my plan B! Two CR2032s and a diod :)

Since I can’t edit for some reason, I forgot to add that the expansion header on the video input was for an optional cable/satellite TV decoder or MPEG decoder module. I remember that from the adverts but I never saw it actually released - but given neither would have been useful in New Zealand it may have been released elsewhere. I still have the original software bundle somewhere, and I also had many hours playing myst.

Thanks!

I remember seeing ads for the Model that was advertised in Australia. I distinctly remembered daydreaming of having one because it had a TV remote

Yeah, I've had a few of them fail :)

Thanks for sharing. Interesting, how come you had pre-production testing models?

@@Epictronics1 We were doing compatibility testing of software on them, before they got released.

@@darkwinter7395 cool :)

Thanks :)

That might come in handy, Thanks!

I was lucky :)

Yeah, that was a misstake :/ Thanks

Thanks :) Luckily this one seems quite well preserved.

Ok, I think this turned out pretty good. It takes less than a minute to replace that CR2032. It doesn't really matter if it turns out to need regular replacing. The clock isn't critical on a vintage machine like this

It's a looker for sure!

I can't find any info on Google but I think the 225 was rebadged in some countries as "the educator" or something similar

lol

Thanks!

I'll keep looking for an RS/6000 :)

Absolutely. Unfortunately, they also melt RAM slots and edge connectors

​@@Epictronics1, there's another way. Come to the dark side...

Thanks! Luckily the ST is still reasonably priced. Get a new case now, before they get to expensive to make any sense :)

It seems to have held up quite well, but I don't know if the black plastic case or how it was stored

Thanks for noticing! I'll check the board thoroughly before the final wash

I hope you'll find one!

Yeah, I noticed the handle after I had already pulled the board lol

Thanks. I found a datasheet with through hole Nichicon GL series but not SMD. M could be capacitance tolerance

Thanks! Yeah, maybe, Apple was testing the market with these machines

I think you're on the right track, but it's more like they had an existing agreement with Matsushita to supply SCSI drives. They had been using them for quite a while, integrated since the first PowerPC multimedia machines, and externally with the old Apple CD 300, e.g. As such, Matsushita had a platform they just kept incrementing on to provide faster transports, but were otherwise largely unchanged. You can see they had OEM options that different vendors would pick from. With or without audio jack and volume control, different bezel colors (standard issue beige, black, Compaq Pink...), IDE / MKE / SCSI interfaces, even a short experiment with a different faceplate design with the 4x drives that had a spring-loaded flap in front that the tray pushed down as it exited, and digital volume control buttons. OTOH, HDD manufacturers had been selling almost entirely IDE to the consumer market for a while by this point. I bet that Matsushita charged more or less equivalent rates however you wanted to customize your order, where HDDs were far cheaper if you went with IDE. Thus... IDE HDD, SCSI CD-ROM.

Thanks. The spindle is made of regular plastic and covered with rubberized paint. Maybe a rubberized sticker cut to size would be a good fix. If there is such a thing

I'll check, thanks!

@@Epictronics1 installing beos on a tam is the video where he shows the apple external video connector

true

well done :)

No, ATAPI was available on drives as far back as 4x drives, and I believe I actually have ONE bizarre Matsushita 2x (!) drive with an IDE interface. (Not to be confused with the common MKE 40-pin interface, but this drive has honest to gosh M/S/CS jumpers, and "IDE" pressed into the top shell.) By this point, with 24x CD-ROM drives and GB HDDs, SCSI was on the way out. HDD vendors were reluctant to offer SCSI models, except in their performance-oriented lines made for servers and workstations. There were still some optical drives available though. This IDE/SCSI combo was just an artifact of its era, as economies of scale dictated that IDE had thoroughly won on the desktop.... but we hadn't quite gotten to SATA yet.

@@nickwallette6201 Ok but why is the optical drive SCSI and the HDD IDE then? This isn't about SATA, that wouldn't be for another decade from this.

@@Nukle0n No, this machine wouldn't have existed in the same timeline as SATA. That was just for completeness sake. No correlation intended. I posted elsewhere on this, but TLDR: Matsushita was quite willing to work with integrators to customize drives. I'm guessing they had long since developed the SCSI controller cores, and updating the drive from 4x -> 8x -> 16x -> 24x was an incremental process that didn't require from-scratch redesign, so they just kept reusing the modules they had already engineered. So the question would've been, why NOT offer SCSI? The work was already done. But HDD manufacturers had been transitioning more to IDE for the consumer market, and to get a SCSI version of a HDD cost considerably more. I never had a peek behind the curtain re: OEM agreements with Quantum, et al, but I worked as a product guy at a computer store at that time, and went to some trouble comparing distributors to find reasonable pricing on SCSI variants. It was ALWAYS harder to find, more expensive, and varied more than the IDE equivalents. I would imagine Apple could've gotten them if they wanted them badly enough, but it almost certainly would've come at a premium that made it more economical to just add an IDE controller on the logic board instead. So you could then argue, "if the HDD was biased toward IDE, and the CD-ROM could have been anything, why not go all the way in with IDE instead?" Well, performance suffers when you put two devices on the same IDE channel -- at least, if those two devices will ever be accessed at the same time, like when installing software from CD -- so they would've probably wanted a dedicated channel. Ergo, two IDE controllers -- even if it's on one chip, it's still two connectors and all the requisite board routing. So, if you could flip a coin between IDE and SCSI for that second channel, there isn't much advantage to one over the other. Except, Apple had an existing ecosystem to support. I don't remember if this had a back-panel SCSI connector, but if it did, that's probably the tie-splitting vote. If not, then it was probably just down to "we always use SCSI for the CD drive, and it doesn't cost more, so why not?" There ya go. My theory on why the IDE/SCSI combo.

Ok, I think I'll play a couple of games to test it. If it misbehaves, I'll recap it. Thanks

Yeah, I concur. I have had zero issues with caps on Matsushita/Panasonic drives -- floppy or CD. I've recapped a couple CD drives that were not working well, and it ... kinda ... saved one of them. I suspect that drive is tired and the caps were just gone enough to push usability over the edge. Most of them have worked fine as-is. Teac and Sony are another matter ... (PS -- the tray motor is indeed soldered to the PCB, but it's a total pushover to unsolder and resolder. Don't let that stop you. Just clean it reasonably well with wick and you'll have zero problems getting it apart and back together again. I've done it a dozen times if I've done it once.) (PS/2 -- the spindle is NBD. That happens a lot. Just wipe it clean with IPA-soaked paper towel until it comes back clean. It'll be fine.)

@@nickwallette6201 Ok, great! I'll leave both drives alone for now and move on to saving something that needs saving today :)

I wonder why they didn't go with an IDE CD-ROM drive too? that would have saved Apple some more money while they were waiting for Steve

Yeah, these are not the best drives for sure. I'll probably keep the "death star" in this machine

i must have been lucky with them

@@2xtreem4u Well, some of them still work, Five of my Quantum drives are to noisy to use. I only have one Quantum drive that is still silent. 3 of my drives are completely dead. Compared to other brands this is pretty bad :)

@@Epictronics1 all of my quantum fireballs talked a lot but worked without problem

@@Epictronics1 i have a 250MB Quantum ProDrive but i don't know if it works because i don't have SCSI

That is a Mac TV. Very cool machine too

@@Epictronics1 oh it's different? I thought it was the same

Thanks!

@@Epictronics1 thanks

Same here! I grew up with a bread-bin :)

According to Wikipedia the 5500 in Japan was the 250. That being said, It now seems all three 5500s were probably designed to work worldwide

Thanks. Hmm two PCI slots... Voodoo SLI? :D

@@Epictronics1 I think that the main problem would be getting the GIMO slot to work. The GIMO slot is basically a VGA-in and out port that can be switched by some pins in the slot. There have been cables for the PC compatibility card for sale on eBay on multiple occasions but i have never sen anyone attempt that mod and it smells of ActionRetro-jank. You could replace the modem with a ethernet adapter to get the PCI free. The dual-slot PCI riser might need a case mod to actually fit although people seem to have fit it without cutting anything.

@@Epictronics1 I have looked a bit more closely and searched the web, where i saw the dual-slot mod. I cannot find it anymore online. The only blurry image i have seems to show a different color 2-slot PCI-riser card than from the 6500. The 6500/6400 PCI riser seems to be shaped differently as well. In the end it is most likely a more involved mod than i thought.

We'll get there. I just saved up for a preheater!

@@Epictronics1 Oh! Awesome! That's going to help a lot!

If I only had a BK-0010!

Yes it is. I noticed while recording, but my S-video cable was broken. I ordered a new DIN plug for it and will try it when the cable is repaired

I missed it! Thanks

I think you may be right. I ones bought two NOS VIC 20s from the northern UK. The plastics were still like new! My guess is that plastics age well in humid and cold storage. The electronics however, probably prefer dry storage

Maybe, but it's just borrowed days regardless. The plastics will succumb, and caps have their own processes for decay even if left sealed and unused in good environmental conditions. They might or might not "wake up" with a little use. IMO, if you can recap, you should. Not only does it stave off the potential for corrosive leakage, but it negates a lot of potential misbehavior and difficult troubleshooting. I've restored SO many computers and power supplies by just going straight ahead with a recap, sight-unseen, and rarely have I had any trouble at all. Mine would be the most boring YT channel ever -- "Guy buys computer, and after recapping and cleaning it, it just works -- episode 42".

@@nickwallette6201 Haha, I have a few of those videos on my channel! lol. My take on the recap debate is, sure, it's probably good to recap most vintage boards. However, if and while I recap a non-leaking machine some other machines are corroding away in storage from leaky caps. It makes more sense to move quickly and leave working and non-leaking caps alone. Cost has also been an issue lately. Some caps nowadays are 10€/$! each

I don't really see the benefit in this case. I couldn't use the rework station because the pads are too close to the edge connector and the SIMM slots

I can't imagine how paste would be easier to apply by hand in tight spaces than just dabbing the iron with a piece of solder wire. If you were going to use hot air, sure. But that was ruled out early in the video on account of nearby plastic.

I think it is. I'm glad it still works!

Safety caps are inside a metal can on this one. Let's hope they are some other brand!

Very strange indeed!

Quite possibly ROMs since this board doesn't have a ROM slot. I'll check when I open up the machine next time

I don't have a printer! :/

@Epictronics1 are you in the USA? If so, I have a spare that I’d be willing to donate.

@@Epictronics1 You can get an ender 3 KE for like $250 USD. I'm pretty sure it can do TPU. Don't get anything less than a KE. The SE has had issues. The KE seems a lot more reliable. It's basically a plug and print printer. And you could always get a prusa. I have 2 prusas and they are wonderful machines. But they are a lot more expensive. I think the MK4 kit was like $800 not including the color module (MMU3).

anyway......... lol

Don't even need your own printer, jlcpcb and pcbway offer 3d printing services.

I ran out of time. I think you are right, I have the same issue with another Apple display. I may have a fix for it though

@@Epictronics1 it always breaks on the point with most stress and really hard to get those plastic sprung cheaply made cut-out buttons back to a working state without the breaking again. Hope you find a solution.

YT had some issues when this video went live. I couldn't see the first two minutes :/

@@Epictronics1 It seems that *now* it offers me the option to watch it in Full HD 🤷

In what way is this clickbait?

@@Epictronics1 the thumbnail is titled "the Mac that can do Commodore" and "no emulation!". I was waiting for a very interesting and exotic second processor card in there, but it's just a TV capture card. Totally boring and wouldn't have watched the video without that misleading thumb.

@@thenickdude Unfortunately, I don't think there is such a thing. I'd love to make a video about it if it does