Umpire allows pitcher to warm up so manager gets upset, a breakdown

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@scullystie4389
@scullystie4389 Ай бұрын
Umpire: Who did you mean to bring out? Manager: 42
@jeremydyar7566
@jeremydyar7566 Ай бұрын
Lol
@dayndusek
@dayndusek Ай бұрын
😂
@magus3553
@magus3553 Ай бұрын
Underrated joke.
@matthewsawczyn6592
@matthewsawczyn6592 Ай бұрын
Honest question: if the numbers didn’t matter for one game, why do we even have them?
@javiervaldes7596
@javiervaldes7596 Ай бұрын
@@matthewsawczyn6592its a tradition. The number means Jackie Robinson. What type of question is that?
@MessOfThings
@MessOfThings Ай бұрын
The politest way to insult someone. "you're better than that"
@cleganebowldog6626
@cleganebowldog6626 Ай бұрын
I wonder if any MLB manager has said that to Angel Hernandez?
@claude122
@claude122 Ай бұрын
@@cleganebowldog6626i bet aaron boone said it lol its his favorite insult all the time
@kevinstull8552
@kevinstull8552 Ай бұрын
​@@cleganebowldog6626Probably not. None of the managers know that Angel will never ever be better at umpiring the game.
@GutsFreedom
@GutsFreedom Ай бұрын
Worse would be, "I thought you were better than that!!"
@alfonzo9289
@alfonzo9289 Ай бұрын
This is facts 😂😂
@Sneatt
@Sneatt Ай бұрын
I always die laughing when I hear 2 dudes arguing in the same voice. 😂😂😂
@derekholmes4792
@derekholmes4792 Ай бұрын
Goat
@jemo9389
@jemo9389 Ай бұрын
I dont even watch baseball I just love these skits
@motorcycleboy9000
@motorcycleboy9000 Ай бұрын
My inner monologue every day 😇👿
@torreyblair8361
@torreyblair8361 16 күн бұрын
Jomboy 101
@adamjett7947
@adamjett7947 Ай бұрын
The overlapping lip reading is a phenomenal addition. Kudos to Jomboy and the editing team
@Tragic_Magic23
@Tragic_Magic23 Ай бұрын
I was going to say this, but you said it for me. Definitely unique and is an awesome portrayal of what these arguments sound like on the field.
@koolaidsalad
@koolaidsalad Ай бұрын
Could be wrong but I’m pretty sure Jomboy does all the editing for these breakdowns
@MrCloud-ob7sh
@MrCloud-ob7sh Ай бұрын
Been doing it for years on hundreds of videos.
@jammerzz
@jammerzz 27 күн бұрын
i came here for the lip reading
@abdullahipad7664
@abdullahipad7664 Ай бұрын
"The lefty reliever is like ahh...leftist" 🤣
@notNajimi
@notNajimi Ай бұрын
Sooo does that mean when you use your secondary right hander you’re putting in the alt-right?
@jaythemartiann
@jaythemartiann Ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@ExpedientFalcon
@ExpedientFalcon Ай бұрын
"Spraying sunflower seeds" has got to go on the MLB manager bingo card now.
@jamespatton9806
@jamespatton9806 Ай бұрын
Feels like a weird rule that you have to signal what handedness the relief pitcher has and if you call the wrong one then you're just goosed
@DaVinci_Diesel
@DaVinci_Diesel Ай бұрын
Yeah that nuance is beyond ridiculous
@yammie75
@yammie75 Ай бұрын
Why is it weird? When you have two relievers warming and are different-handed, you need to signal which reliever you want coming in. Raising the hand of the handedness of reliever you want to come in seems like a simple thing, no? Sure does to me. How else are you going to signal which one to come in? Telepathy?
@stevebabiak6997
@stevebabiak6997 Ай бұрын
@@yammie75- umm I guess there isn’t a phone connected to the bullpen that could be used to inform the bullpen as to which pitcher is to come into the game. Then the hand raising theatrics aren’t needed.
@orenmk1973
@orenmk1973 Ай бұрын
I think it is because the other team needs to know so they can choose a different batter if they want based on the “hand” of the pitcher
@dinklebob1
@dinklebob1 Ай бұрын
​@@yammie75The issue isn't with the method of the call, but rather that it can't be retracted after the fact. Furthermore, it seems weird that the umps are involved at all. If the manager says he wants the lefty and the wrong dude comes out to the mound that seems like a communication issue on the same team which the umps shouldn't really care about at all. Is there some arcane trickery that can be done by signaling righty and a lefty comes out?
@emilioedj
@emilioedj Ай бұрын
Laz handle it well. Explained his point and didnt throw out the manager until he came out a 2nd time and started screaming in his face lmao 😂
@Zeelidox
@Zeelidox Ай бұрын
Yeah, lots of other umps as soon as he said bullshit would get their feelings hurt and throw him out, rare case of the ump being right
@tw1nn319
@tw1nn319 Ай бұрын
@@Zeelidox "rare" lol 96% of calls are right, but sure, its "rare"
@larryridgeway1057
@larryridgeway1057 Ай бұрын
@@tw1nn319 96% might be a tad high for Laz. He might be better than Angel, but that bar really isn't that high.
@tw1nn319
@tw1nn319 Ай бұрын
@@larryridgeway1057 he said rare case of umps being right, not of laz being right, laz is probably right ~90% of the time
@larryridgeway1057
@larryridgeway1057 Ай бұрын
@@tw1nn319 Thank you for helping prove my point that 96% is too high for Laz.
@SchizoAction
@SchizoAction Ай бұрын
Laz shoulda told Skip that they had to wait for him to finish throwing his tantrum first. 😂😂
@Gabberz123
@Gabberz123 Ай бұрын
I wouldn't have been able to start the timer on time if someone was screaming in my face either.
@ArtieLovesPancakes143
@ArtieLovesPancakes143 Ай бұрын
It’s actually supposed to be done upstairs by the Field Timing Coordinator (pitch clock operator) so that the umpire can continue to try to settle down the manager.
@willpina
@willpina Ай бұрын
2 things of notice: The ump let the manager vent and didn't throw him out because he knew that he had a point. Also the manager for the Marlins is a lame duck, he could reasonably have a f-it attitude and not care, but he is still fired up about managing this team.
@aduncaroo
@aduncaroo Ай бұрын
Agree with both of these and love it
@Giants83
@Giants83 Ай бұрын
Skip is a good manager. I live in Florida and this franchise is a joke. Once Skip goes elsewhere he will be successful.
@VioletDeliriums
@VioletDeliriums Ай бұрын
whatever.
@DixonCider954
@DixonCider954 Ай бұрын
As a Marlins fan I took it as Skip letting out his frustration from the Marlins and their failures this season.
@Shazprime
@Shazprime Ай бұрын
Yeah I felt exactly the same way they're literally one game ahead of CWS and Colorado.. ​@DixonCider954
@TheHopperUK
@TheHopperUK Ай бұрын
Laz probably would have started the timer if Skip wasn't screaming right in his face, for heaven's sake
@jordanlazo7468
@jordanlazo7468 Ай бұрын
So they don't have other ump on the field ? Or better yet, new york?
@CharlesFreck
@CharlesFreck Ай бұрын
@@jordanlazo7468 New York is purely reviews. They're not actively involved. And the other umps don't have the authority to start the clock. It's not their job. All decisions on the field are at the umpires discretion. Umpire was being nice today, decided to let them correct the mistake and have a couple warm up pitches. That's the umpires discretion. They can do that. It's in the rulebook that the umpire is the final call and overrides everything else. They always, no matter what, have discretion. No rule in the book is above the umpire.
@ArtieLovesPancakes143
@ArtieLovesPancakes143 Ай бұрын
@@CharlesFreckthe Field Timing Coordinator (pitch clock operator) upstairs is responsible for starting the clock for timing issues. While the umpires ultimately have control of game time issues, the clock should have been started by the FTC up on the press box.
@CharlesFreck
@CharlesFreck Ай бұрын
@ArtieLovesPancakes143 yeah, pretty sure I saw your comment somewhere else. Interesting stuff, never once heard that role mentioned anywhere before. Good to know. I imagine in this case though, the umpire had told them not to start the clock yet, and they were waiting to hear from him
@ArtieLovesPancakes143
@ArtieLovesPancakes143 Ай бұрын
@@CharlesFreck possibly, but we are taught the relief pitcher calling rules, as well as starting the clock once the correct player steps on to the warning track. IMO the FTC may have gotten caught up in the confusion of the moment and not started the clock right away. Human error, lord knows I’ve made mistakes before so it definitely happens. I’ve made a couple timing mistakes along my journey so all you can do is learn from them and not make the same mistakes again.
@hesgrant
@hesgrant Ай бұрын
The overlapping arguing voices are just so impressive every time
@g_mason8867
@g_mason8867 Ай бұрын
Not really
@SithScribe21
@SithScribe21 Ай бұрын
5:54 is it weird to anyone else that there’s a guy in a Texas WS shirt and a guy in a Dodgers jersey in this one shot of the Giants at the Marlins? Lol 😆
@wickedsickfunkyfreshroller2037
@wickedsickfunkyfreshroller2037 Ай бұрын
Nice catch lol
@jal-kx6tm
@jal-kx6tm Ай бұрын
lol the dodgers fan probably goes to giants games just to boo them.
@oldhickory4686
@oldhickory4686 Ай бұрын
Bob Melvin was calling the whole League out of that bullpen...
@jquigssmith
@jquigssmith Ай бұрын
Came here to say that! People on vacation maybe catching a game? I'd probably do it too in my Padre gear
@AidanWR
@AidanWR Ай бұрын
Nope. I see people wearing shirts from other teams at stadiums all the time. Some people just go to watch baseball, even if they have no stake in the current game
@titanictoneloc
@titanictoneloc Ай бұрын
For context, “the reliever” in question is Camilo Doval who was an All Star and the NL Saves Leader last season, might add to Skip’s chagrin in those whole situation. I will also add Camilo leads the majors in pitch clock violations, so he didn’t need to worry, he was gonna do it to himself eventually.
@winonafrog
@winonafrog Ай бұрын
Sick. Love the sidearm and he’s fine as hell 😅
@MrSyltphademus
@MrSyltphademus Ай бұрын
Marlins manager: "No no no! You called for the righty! You've got to bring the righty in!" Also Marlins manager: "He shouldn't even be out there!"
@Dana-wq5tp
@Dana-wq5tp Ай бұрын
Also Marlins Manager: "Why the F did I ever agree to manage this shit team?!!"
@TinKnight
@TinKnight Ай бұрын
Not what happened. The Giants manager is the one that told the umps that wasn't the pitcher he wanted, that he wanted Doval (whom he hadn't even started warming up). Marlins were mad bc the Giants were gaming the system, using the time while the 1st RP was coming out & going back to warm up Doval & chilling the Marlins who had been rallying. I think the Marlins mgr screwed himself by being petulant. If he'd more calmly insisted that Doval have fewer warm-up pitches due to gaming the system, he probably would've gotten what he wanted (since Laz limited him to 5 pitches instead of the usual 8).
@MrDunloMusic
@MrDunloMusic Ай бұрын
Marlins manager was absurd in the whole exchange. His only legitimate point was the clock not starting when the guy hit the warning track, but it likely got missed because of the spectacle he created.
@AbnormalPecker
@AbnormalPecker Ай бұрын
I had no idea the manager's hand signal for pitcher was a binding official indicator....Crazy.
@sfan2767
@sfan2767 Ай бұрын
It isn't binding. The pitcher entering the game is whoever the manager tells the umpire; but if for some reason that hasn't happened yet the 1B/2B umpires hold the reliever on the outfield grass until the home plate umpire confirms to let him in the game.
@roylandrum863
@roylandrum863 Ай бұрын
Very similar to when Gabe Kapler made a 2nd mound visit in an inning and was forced to change pitchers, though the Phillies didn't have a pitcher warming up at all. They let the reliever warm up fully on the mound, as if there was an injury and Snitker got ejected immediately for complaining about it.
@UOUPv2
@UOUPv2 Ай бұрын
This kind of pisses me off. I actually like when people get sneaky with the rules and bend them to their will but warm up pitches aren't just for fun. It's literally for safety. I think it's dumb to try and rush a pitcher like that.
@dumpygirl6736
@dumpygirl6736 Ай бұрын
@@UOUPv2 Its almost as if Managers should know the rules
@roylandrum863
@roylandrum863 Ай бұрын
@@UOUPv2 I agree, but there should be some penalty to the manager/team that screwed up. That way the opposing manager doesn’t get ejected for complaining. Maybe automatic walk for first batter up after the pitcher fully warms up
@1UpBebop
@1UpBebop Ай бұрын
@@dumpygirl6736 It's almost like a pitchers career shouldn't be ruined because a manager had a brain fart. "And here we see Randy Johnson absolutely shred every ligament in his arm as it's just dangling on the field, all because his manager forgot Rule 17.C Subsection D which gave him no warm up pitches. Shame, he had a bright future." It's simple. Manager fuck up = ball or walk. Don't put a player's career in jeopardy.
@dutchbosoxfan8919
@dutchbosoxfan8919 Ай бұрын
@@UOUPv2Especially since injuries have been up for the last couple of years (and the players union blaming it on the pitch clock).
@eman610
@eman610 Ай бұрын
5:53 "This is such a weird...." My eyes dart at Dodger fan in full get-up @ Giants/Marlins game.
@glucosaminecondroitan9135
@glucosaminecondroitan9135 Ай бұрын
There is a person in a Texas Rangers World Series shirt too. Super weird.
@fonsowaffles
@fonsowaffles Ай бұрын
dodger fans are everywhere but la
@LemonStir
@LemonStir Ай бұрын
How about recognizing every player is wearing #42 and see who that relates to. Oh right, Jackie Robinson of the LOS ANGELES DODGERS!! I WONDER IF THEY HAVE A DAY FOR HIM THAT THEY DO THIS EVERY YEAR?? OH WAIT THEY FUCKING DO!!
@eman610
@eman610 Ай бұрын
@@LemonStir The fact that you're so angry makes the /whoosh event sweeter. You seem like the type to yell at the TV when the bad guy comes on screen.
@louisgreubel742
@louisgreubel742 Ай бұрын
Jomboy getting official MLB sponsorships? My MAN.
@milkmanager
@milkmanager Ай бұрын
kinda, the game or its advertising isnt directly run by the mlb it's just licensed by them to use the players
@Josh.WDW.
@Josh.WDW. Ай бұрын
It's a mobile game by com2us , not MLB. I am an avid player haha
@victortachiquin4965
@victortachiquin4965 Ай бұрын
Its a really fun and addicting game def gets you with some enticing microtransactions and showers you with free gifts too, try it out
@aidenwhite2131
@aidenwhite2131 Ай бұрын
@@Josh.WDW.based
@yungplouie
@yungplouie Ай бұрын
aren't they in the game?
@zachschwartz35
@zachschwartz35 Ай бұрын
Dueling Jomboy lip readings are the BEST
@DudeTotally1000
@DudeTotally1000 Ай бұрын
I am fully with Laz, especially if he gave him less warm up pitches. The manager just wanted to be mad about something, silly thing to get yourself tossed over.
@jordanlazo7468
@jordanlazo7468 Ай бұрын
Why if the pitcher decided he gonna take his time then it should be a ball it in the rule
@DudeTotally1000
@DudeTotally1000 Ай бұрын
@@jordanlazo7468 It's the timekeeper's job to start the clock. Laz made up for the delayed clock by giving him less warmup pitches. So the pitcher gained no advantage there. The manager was throwing a baby fit for no reason and probably held the game up longer than if he'd just sat down and shut up.
@TaliyahP
@TaliyahP Ай бұрын
​@@jordanlazo7468no one saying the clock should be done away with, but getting this mad over an extra 30 seconds is not worth it
@jordanlazo7468
@jordanlazo7468 Ай бұрын
@@TaliyahP rule are rules the marlins should be rewarded with a ball as well as he should have got warm up pitches
@charlesclark3840
@charlesclark3840 Ай бұрын
He wanted some of Boone's screen time.
@cas4894
@cas4894 Ай бұрын
Classic Jomboy. Love it
@giancarlocorlazzoli5527
@giancarlocorlazzoli5527 Ай бұрын
I was so confused about the guy in the Dodgers Uni in the stands but realized it’s for Jackie!
@4thlegacy802
@4thlegacy802 Ай бұрын
Wasn't aware that the manager HAD to indicate which handed pitcher he wanted with the corresponding arm. If only one pitcher is warming up you should be able to just point to the bullpen and get the pitcher you had warming up
@tw1nn319
@tw1nn319 Ай бұрын
nobody "had" to indicate with the arm, the manager wanted the righty and the bp sent out the wrong guy, so he goes back and the guy the manager wants comes out. that simple
@sweetbizil
@sweetbizil Ай бұрын
@@tw1nn319 Why would the manager want a pitcher who isn't warming up? They usually are the ones telling people in the bullpen to start warming up in the first place...
@tw1nn319
@tw1nn319 Ай бұрын
@@sweetbizil happens sometimes. This is a loophole to allow him to get more warmups in the bp. Hopefully mlb puts a rule in place to prevent teams from doing it again but in the current state of the rule book this was handled correctly. Especially with Laz trying to appease Skip by giving the new pitcher less pitches
@sweetbizil
@sweetbizil Ай бұрын
@@tw1nn319 Maybe I am misunderstanding this but if I wanted to abuse the rulebook to give my chosen reliever more warmup pitches, I would tell him to start warming up ahead of time and then "accidentally" have another guy sent out. That isn't what happened from my understanding. A guy who hadn't been warming up was asked to come in while a lefty-lefty matchup for a guy who was already warming up tried to come in. Seems like the manager just goofed and accidentally called the wrong guy in. The righty didn't really get any good warmup in.
@tw1nn319
@tw1nn319 Ай бұрын
@@sweetbizil I think you are misunderstanding, more like overthinking. The manager wanted the righty, the bp sent out the lefty. The manager said no, I want the righty. So as he was walking back the righty got some warm ups in, and skip took exception to that even tho it’s legal per the rules.
@gregorymeditz8573
@gregorymeditz8573 Ай бұрын
For real, love your videos. This makes the nuances of the game and the myriad of rules fun.
@KingsOwn19
@KingsOwn19 Ай бұрын
The voice for Laz is hilarious
@ivan_tv6653
@ivan_tv6653 Ай бұрын
Jomboy in his voice acting era with the overlapping voiceover with different tones. That was awesome!
@EvanWearsPants
@EvanWearsPants Ай бұрын
I've never seen a breakdown where it feels like the manager is so clearly in the wrong
@kampoc4802
@kampoc4802 Ай бұрын
never watched a breakdown of Aaron Boone?????
@AndrewPardo
@AndrewPardo Ай бұрын
The overlapping audio is a fantastic addition to the quality of you videos good shit jomboy
@TheKrawtch
@TheKrawtch Ай бұрын
arguing both sides simultaneously and really putting some feeling into it this is truly next level analysis
@MWSays
@MWSays Ай бұрын
Always a nice touch that you do different voices for each of them
@monsweko
@monsweko Ай бұрын
This really wasn’t a situation that called for anyone to get this mad. Manager is screaming obscenities and spitting all over himself over a minor timekeeping disagreement.
@kristopherwilson506
@kristopherwilson506 Ай бұрын
It’s not a minor disagreement though, it’s exploitation of a loophole which benefited the opponent
@jaroj1112
@jaroj1112 Ай бұрын
@@kristopherwilson506womp womp, rules are rules, bs or not.
@ZombieBacon13
@ZombieBacon13 Ай бұрын
I imagine managers get flak from their bosses if they don't get upset over stuff, or they might just want everything to go their way because how easy it would be for them to get fired if they lose a bunch.
@TaliyahP
@TaliyahP Ай бұрын
​@@kristopherwilson506it benefited the opponent by having a 1-2 count instead of a 2-2 count when the batter grounded out?
@thequinlanshow3326
@thequinlanshow3326 Ай бұрын
​@@kristopherwilson506all that screaming and crying over a ball in the count 😂😂😂 the guy grounded out two pitches later. It was less than useless and a waste of everyone's time
@danielsolano4606
@danielsolano4606 Ай бұрын
Im on Laz's side. Think this is a stupid reason for a manager to get himself thrown out
@claude122
@claude122 Ай бұрын
i wonder if the team was 10-9 he would have acted differently but 4-15 i guess he is pissed about the team performance
@corywilson2007
@corywilson2007 Ай бұрын
I can't think of another time I've been on the umps side besides here
@rorygillmore6555
@rorygillmore6555 Ай бұрын
If they want to do this stupid pitch clock nonsense to shorten games instead of cutting out the ridiculous amounts of ads and before game ceremonies, then the umpires need to know those rules and get it right. There's no reason that clock shouldn't have started after the 2nd pitcher that was already stalling for time came onto the field.
@tBeNz0
@tBeNz0 Ай бұрын
​@@rorygillmore6555i think that was the whole point. It wouldve started if the manager wasnt yelling at the ump.
@ArtieLovesPancakes143
@ArtieLovesPancakes143 Ай бұрын
@@tBeNz0The FTC (pitch clock operator) was at fault for this. They are supposed to be assisting the umpires, so while the umpire was arguing with the manager, the FTC does their job and starts the clock.
@BigLeagueBallpark
@BigLeagueBallpark Ай бұрын
I couldn't wait for the lip read from Jomboy. Lol. Saw this live and immediately thought of JB. And now I learned something too... the weird reliever clock rule.
@nopepasta6823
@nopepasta6823 Ай бұрын
I've never paid attention to baseball or been much of a sports fan In general but these breakdowns have actually captured my interest.
@jjwallnutts4341
@jjwallnutts4341 Ай бұрын
This dude losing his mind over maybe a minute and a half of slowing down. Save that energy for something major lol
@mbdg6810
@mbdg6810 Ай бұрын
These types of manager ejections are really dumb
@chscelebrity8325
@chscelebrity8325 Ай бұрын
He’s a young coach trying to be cool. It’s sad.
@psymar
@psymar Ай бұрын
his team is shit and he wants to shower early and go sleep
@Teootron
@Teootron Ай бұрын
Exactly 😂😂
@anderivative
@anderivative Ай бұрын
and isn't this a new rule from last season? The rule isn't meant to shape the game but to keep the pace steady with less down time
@ingiford175
@ingiford175 Ай бұрын
I think the rule also ways that they have to head out as soon as possible. The second pitcher did not do that, he tossed some balls before he came out.
@Figgy20000
@Figgy20000 Ай бұрын
The Merlins manager caused that delay as well. They sent the person they wanted to send but marlins caused a stink because they missignalled. Sending a pitcher in cold could cause a serious injury. There was only one person in the wrong here
@charlesclark3840
@charlesclark3840 Ай бұрын
He had to wait for the first "incorrect" reliever to get back, which must be done within the original 2 minutes. Then the clock is reset and restarted as the correct reliever comes out "as soon as possible" after the wrong one is back. This was all explained by Jomboy in the video. He also said a team could intentionally have the wrong guy go but not take the mound and need to be sent back in order to game the system by allowing the right guy a couple minutes to throw in the pen plus the normal (two minutes minus the time it takes to get to the mound minus no new warmup pitch in the last thirty seconds). Jomboy then opined that it didn't seem like they were intentionally doing that in this case. At least that is what I heard; I personally don't know the pitchclock rules.
@CaseyXuereb
@CaseyXuereb Ай бұрын
Watching this live, I knew it would end up as a Jomboy breakdown and you did not disappoint!
@ShadyAcres28
@ShadyAcres28 Ай бұрын
This was something I've never seen before and a rule I never knew about!! Jomboy the BEST and the funniest lip-reading EVER!!
@twoshirts1842
@twoshirts1842 Ай бұрын
MLB sponsorship. Tight. I don't usually follow sponsored links but I'll do what I can to support. You single handedly got me into baseball.
@mandar107
@mandar107 Ай бұрын
Yup I’m with the ump on this one. He gave less warm up pitches, that’s a fine ruling by me.
@ArtieLovesPancakes143
@ArtieLovesPancakes143 Ай бұрын
The Field Timing Coordinator (pitch clock operator) upstairs is responsible for starting the clock while the arguing was going on. They should have started the 2:00 clock as soon as the correct relief pitch stepped on to the warming track, then paused the clock when the umpire checked their glove and hands for foreign substances, then resumed the clock immediately after. The mistake was made by the FTC, which I know is what happened because I am a FTC in MiLB.
@dp6297
@dp6297 Ай бұрын
Jomboy puttin in work on this one….good stuff 😂
@nofxfannumba1
@nofxfannumba1 Ай бұрын
The duo argument overdub thing near the end was gold. Crying laughing. Laz's "voice" is hilarious
@Scoots1994
@Scoots1994 Ай бұрын
Skip was mad because he didn't understand the rule that the "wrong" pitcher didn't use up the "right" pitchers 2 minute counter. When Skip comes back the 2nd time it's because the 2 minutes still hadn't started, of course it hadn't started because he was out there for the wrong reason throwing a fit. He probably knows the rule now.
@ArtieLovesPancakes143
@ArtieLovesPancakes143 Ай бұрын
Agreed but actually it was the fault of the FTC (Field Timing Coordinator) who runs the pitch clock. It is their responsibility to start the 2 minutes, then stop it during the umpire check of glove and hands for foreign substances, then start immediately after that the remaining 2 minute timer.
@Scoots1994
@Scoots1994 Ай бұрын
@@ArtieLovesPancakes143 didn't know that was a different job. I thought the ump said when to start it
@ArtieLovesPancakes143
@ArtieLovesPancakes143 Ай бұрын
@@Scoots1994 No worries my friend, I am lucky enough to be a FTC in MiLB so I am aware of the process. It’s a very cool job, I like to tell people I watch baseball 15 seconds at a time 🤣
@Scoots1994
@Scoots1994 Ай бұрын
@@ArtieLovesPancakes143 how long has it been a position in MLB? I don't imagine it was a thing 10 years ago:)
@ArtieLovesPancakes143
@ArtieLovesPancakes143 Ай бұрын
@@Scoots1994 it’s been around MiLB for around 9 years being tweeked and 2023 was MLB’s first year of use.
@benmarshall5132
@benmarshall5132 Ай бұрын
Schumaker really comes across as a toddler here
@Gregory_tottie
@Gregory_tottie Ай бұрын
This whole breakdowns and situation is awesome
@allphornunn
@allphornunn Ай бұрын
Lol some funny shit and damn good refresher on bullpen procedure. Love this dude
@erickhines4121
@erickhines4121 Ай бұрын
This is classic Jomboy 😂
@scumbagel8518
@scumbagel8518 Ай бұрын
This was totally an intentional move by the Giants to exploit that loophole. They did a similar thing to the Braves last season.
@Scoots1994
@Scoots1994 Ай бұрын
Absolutely.
@neixgd
@neixgd Ай бұрын
Not against the rules so 🤷
@ItsGamingFancy
@ItsGamingFancy Ай бұрын
What are they trying to do? They realize they want a righty but didn't have a righty warming up so they tell the bullpen to send their lefty on purpose so that the righty can get a few throws in before go gets on the field?
@tiltskillet7085
@tiltskillet7085 Ай бұрын
If so, they bungled it. If it was intentional, the closer shouldn't have been waiting to warm up until the lefty went out on the field. I think it's just as plausible they screwed up their BP management without intending to game the rule.
@intoxicary
@intoxicary Ай бұрын
When are you talking about? Also Giants had a different manager last season, so I think it's unlikely that higher management has this play saved, and if they did for them to use it in a preseason game against a team that's 4-10. Very unlikely. Melvin just messed up because he's new to the team. If ya hear hooves think horses not zebras.
@tinderbox218
@tinderbox218 25 күн бұрын
The sunflower seeds coming out of that guys mouth has to be the funniest thing I’ve seen on this channel 😂😂😂
@Chubbs-ui7wp
@Chubbs-ui7wp Ай бұрын
I mean, how fun are these videos??? Just top notch. It's what baseball needs!
@mloree1220
@mloree1220 Ай бұрын
If the ump forgets to start the clock, can he still punish the pitcher for a time violation?
@ericwildfong
@ericwildfong Ай бұрын
Probably not cause it wouldn't be fair, but there are other ways for umpires to control/shorten the time between innings or pitching changes, such as the number or warmup pitches. In lower levels, you don't always get the big fancy scoreboards with timekeepers and whatnot like you see in the MLB, at that point it's entirely on the umpires
@ArtieLovesPancakes143
@ArtieLovesPancakes143 Ай бұрын
It’s at their discretion, but most would not punish the mistake. It is actually the Field Timing Coordinator (pitch clock operator) upstairs to do all the clock stuff, so actually it was the FTC’s mistake, not the umpire that was in the argument with the manager.
@ericwildfong
@ericwildfong Ай бұрын
@@ArtieLovesPancakes143 That assumes there isn't some sort of signal from the umpires (who control the game) to the FTC to start the clock for the pitching change like there is for starting the pitch clock. It is discretionary and Laz has lots of tools in his "toolbelt" for speeding things up when he says "I'll handle it" that doesn't involve adding a ball to the count
@ArtieLovesPancakes143
@ArtieLovesPancakes143 Ай бұрын
@@ericwildfong I am a FTC in MiLB and you are correct, the umpire has the ultimate control, but I am responsible for starting that clock on time, then stopping it while the umpire checks the new reliever for foreign substances on his glove and hands, then start the clock again. I work in concert with the umpire crew so that they can deal with the upset manager, while I take care of the proper clock operations. I meet with the crew pregame every game, so I’m sure there was a conference after all of this to have a better outcome when these kind of situations arise.
@kylerae9196
@kylerae9196 Ай бұрын
Lesson to the coaches: if you want more time. Just pretend you messed up your pitcher call
@TomHigginsWx
@TomHigginsWx Ай бұрын
1:59 Jomboy 's VoiceOver yelling "Laz!" was hilarious.
@imallfordabulls
@imallfordabulls Ай бұрын
5:42 the amount of various team representation in the crowd is impressive
@AidanWR
@AidanWR Ай бұрын
I hate when things like this happen, "I want to be petty about a call, but I won't stop there and try to make it so the opposing team suffers from a misspeak"
@jaclatoya
@jaclatoya Ай бұрын
Wait...is there a rule that the manager has to motion to the bullpen with the throwing hand of the pitcher? Why are the umpires telling the lefty to head back to the pen? Can't Melvin say he was motioning to the bullpen with the hand closest to the bullpen for the only pitcher ready to pitch?
@ItsGamingFancy
@ItsGamingFancy Ай бұрын
5.10(b), 5.10(b): "... the manager should be mindful to signal for a left-handed pitcher with his left hand, or a right-handed pitcher with his right hand. If there is uncertainty when bringing a pitcher into the game, the umpire has the discretion to ask the manager to identify the substitute pitcher by name." They checked with the manager and were told he wanted the righty
@snookslayer4559
@snookslayer4559 Ай бұрын
Exactly my thought - why are umps helping teams sort out which is the correct pitcher? If a team screws up, that's on them. Shouldn't be the ump's job.
@jamesmurray3948
@jamesmurray3948 Ай бұрын
@@ItsGamingFancy That's the interp of the rule from the MLB Umpires Manual. The Rule, 5.10(b) Comment has this sentence in it: "Signaling or motioning to the bullpen is to be considered an official substitution for the new pitcher." The righty was in the game as Melvin crossed the foul line.
@jamesmurray3948
@jamesmurray3948 Ай бұрын
@@snookslayer4559 They are applying the rule. You signal for a righty you have have him pitch. A fill in manager absent-mindedly used the wrong arm and had to use that pitcher instead of the one he wanted.
@ItsGamingFancy
@ItsGamingFancy Ай бұрын
@@jamesmurray3948 but that doesn't say anything about which pitcher is to come in. It just means that for sure the current pitcher needs to come out. The part I quoted clarifies this.
@jacobrobles5598
@jacobrobles5598 Ай бұрын
Mann is just started watching your videos and these get me dying🤣 keep it up
@chinobandito7625
@chinobandito7625 Ай бұрын
Glad you covered this! I was so damned confused when this happened live
@glennrudolph
@glennrudolph Ай бұрын
Baseball could be so much more fun with a few easy rule changes. Like, no warming up for anyone. Everyone throws with their non dominant hand. You get to tee it up of the pitcher throws 1 ball. You get the idea
@Scoots1994
@Scoots1994 Ай бұрын
Teams pay pitchers a lot of money, no warm up means more injuries. That rule isn't going to happen. Now if you want to go to a system where players are paid in beer only, then all kinds of rules will change, but the revenue will probably dry up pretty quick.
@tabakhiin
@tabakhiin Ай бұрын
they would only hire ambidextrous pitchers xD
@Scoots1994
@Scoots1994 Ай бұрын
@@tabakhiin There is a rule for ambidextrous pitchers to make them less effective which I think is dumb.
@claude122
@claude122 Ай бұрын
@@Scoots1994i said that for years before the rules of 3 batters minimum cause the game was too long - once you call for the bullpen - pitchers must be ready to pitch - he just warmed up for 5-10 minutes why we need commercials and more warm up pitches...i hate that rules of 3 batters it takes away the strategy of the game sending your best pitchers against the best hitters
@Scoots1994
@Scoots1994 Ай бұрын
@@claude122 I thought in this one the righty hadn't warmed up at all before the call.
@EvilKicksMoney
@EvilKicksMoney Ай бұрын
Why you stopped uploading cricket videos?
@JomboyMedia
@JomboyMedia Ай бұрын
Only the IPL is going on and the IPL doesn’t let anyone post clips
@EvilKicksMoney
@EvilKicksMoney Ай бұрын
@@JomboyMedia ❤️
@dandockendorf1955
@dandockendorf1955 Ай бұрын
Wow this one is going to find its way on the one of Jomboy best of compliations for sure
@DirtyDrawers-kp3jm
@DirtyDrawers-kp3jm Ай бұрын
LOLOL. Love how Jimmy O'Brien put his face on one of the spectators in the background while he's talking about this.
@PFROG206
@PFROG206 Ай бұрын
Like the Marlins are in contention or anything! 🤣
@PalmTrees818
@PalmTrees818 Ай бұрын
And what have the Yankees won recently? I'll wait?
@superbob24
@superbob24 Ай бұрын
@@PalmTrees818 Yankees won a chip more recently than the Marlins had a 90 win season.
@jhoe164
@jhoe164 Ай бұрын
@@PalmTrees818 they've won a whole lot more than the marlins lmao
@PalmTrees818
@PalmTrees818 Ай бұрын
@@superbob24 not a Marlins fan
@jackjack-dw2ys
@jackjack-dw2ys Ай бұрын
More in contention then you'll ever be 😂
@NaTe.oo7
@NaTe.oo7 Ай бұрын
“Bullshit” and bullshit literally comes out his mouth 🤢
@StratGame126
@StratGame126 Ай бұрын
I just now learned about this hand rule for bullpen calls. Guessing it wasn’t around when Ozzie Guillen was calling Bobby Jenks. 😂
@Dustin_Platt
@Dustin_Platt Ай бұрын
Coach: I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed in you. *bullsheeeeeeeeeịt*
@SirBarth
@SirBarth Ай бұрын
I think had the coach just shut up and walked back and let Laz deal with it, he would have gotten the count he wanted. But because he kept flapping them gums, Laz didn't start the timer. That's on you, Coach.
@stevenschiro1838
@stevenschiro1838 Ай бұрын
I was at that game and I remember thinking "I hope JomBoy makes a video out of this". We had no idea what was going on when he just flipped out
@aureumursa1833
@aureumursa1833 Ай бұрын
I saw this live and knew I'd see it again here in a few days 😅
@alexanderson1304
@alexanderson1304 Ай бұрын
Hell yeah I was waiting for this one
@lcmark
@lcmark Ай бұрын
I saw this shortly after it happened and was “oooh, new Jomboy breakdown” 😂
@mphailey
@mphailey Ай бұрын
Bravo Jomboy!
@Slumdankin1123
@Slumdankin1123 Ай бұрын
Jomboy is a beast with the lip reading!
@DG360MaN
@DG360MaN Ай бұрын
Loving this regular upload schedule, hope it continues
@joshuabenton3785
@joshuabenton3785 Ай бұрын
The two voiceovers at the same time was sublime!
@avkalyan2000
@avkalyan2000 Ай бұрын
40 years o watching baseball and I didn’t know that if you call for a right a righty has to come in, you can’t do a fake call. Never seen this before. Thanks for covering this!
@tw1nn319
@tw1nn319 Ай бұрын
You can continue your 40-year streak of not knowing this bc that isn't how it works. The manager just wanted a different pitcher so the original pitcher that came out went back to the bp and the pitcher the manager wanted came out. The bp just sent the wrong guy and he had to go back. As long as the pitcher doesn't reach the mound, you can send him back for the guy you actually want. Doesnt matter about handedness
@simplesolutions4925
@simplesolutions4925 Ай бұрын
Your lip reading is impeccable. Second to none!! 🙌
@edschmidtke9444
@edschmidtke9444 Ай бұрын
Great video!
@SavageNotSalvage
@SavageNotSalvage Ай бұрын
I asked for this breakdown and I’m thankful for it
@SavageNotSalvage
@SavageNotSalvage Ай бұрын
Rules were meant to be stretched and I loved how Marlins tried to do the same thing back to the Giants the next day but they seemed more lost
@matrixcmitech
@matrixcmitech Ай бұрын
God bless this Jomboy breakdown
@mtolympus-worstplayerever7924
@mtolympus-worstplayerever7924 Ай бұрын
I love Jomboy's change of vocal timbre to reflect Laz vs. Skip.
@TeddysGaming
@TeddysGaming Ай бұрын
I’m waiting for that Aaron Boone video can’t wait 😂 and commentators mentioned you.
@dsimon64
@dsimon64 Ай бұрын
Lose-lose situation for Skip. If he says nothing in a sort of lame duck position, that doesn't look great to his bosses or future employers. Not arguing for extra balls in the count for your batters when you have room for an argument might be something the Mets would do but it's the manager's job to fight for every opportunity that can benefit his team. Maybe the pitches get called differently with a different count and ends with a different result, who knows. But if he does say something, then people will complain about him making a mountain out of a molehill. I think I like him saying something and do think the umpire handled it fairly well (though it is a timing loophole and "upstairs" should've started the timer sooner) but he could've been wayyyyy more chill about it and had a more amenable convo with the ump. If I was a manager I'd always want the umpires to be thinking "Hmm, well that manager is being fair to me so I'm going to consciously be fair to them."
@marcelinogarza9436
@marcelinogarza9436 Ай бұрын
Love you jomboy funny as hell
@camc8923
@camc8923 Ай бұрын
The passion of the narration is priceless
@serpotter
@serpotter Ай бұрын
Is this the first time we get overlapping lip reads? That was amazing! I laughed out loud
@kenSpiffyJr.
@kenSpiffyJr. Ай бұрын
Great breakdown.
@tomfitzlptp
@tomfitzlptp Ай бұрын
1:50 Jomboy says the clock starts when the reliever "hits the warning track" 2:55 Jomboy says the clock should start when the second picher "steps on the mound" 3:25 Jomboy says again that the rule says when the second reliever "steps on the mound" but then says "right...now" when the reliever steps on the warning track So even Jomboy getting confused with the rule
@ArtieLovesPancakes143
@ArtieLovesPancakes143 Ай бұрын
Yeah, Jomboy was all over the place on this one. Rule is as soon as the correct reliever steps in to the field, the 2 min clock starts. Then it is paused while the umpire checks the reliever for any foreign substances and starts again immediately after the check is complete. The clock operator would have reset the clock from when the first mistaken reliever came out of the bullpen, and then started a new 2 minutes once the correct guy hit the field.
@Blake-jl8lh
@Blake-jl8lh Ай бұрын
If the other manager is going to insist the wrong pitcher came out and they must go back then it also seems like he should accept the timer shouldn't start as the called in pitcher hadn't entered the field.
@dayleneely7111
@dayleneely7111 Ай бұрын
I'm as casual as casual gets when it comes to baseball...all my insight comes from this channel. What I have learned about baseball is that it is mostly about how pissed off the coaches get about The violation of rules then the actual game
@Maytember
@Maytember 20 күн бұрын
I died when I saw you in the bleachers 😂
@davetoohey9482
@davetoohey9482 Ай бұрын
I love baseball. I look forward to baseball season every year. But I think I might look forward to Jomboy baseball breakdowns even more...
@patrickdement1474
@patrickdement1474 Ай бұрын
Great stuff! Can you mention who wins the game/final score for the videos where it's not part of the topic?
@1800Nightmare
@1800Nightmare Ай бұрын
Slow-mo seed spitting 2:23 was all I needed 😂
@adambuster9
@adambuster9 Ай бұрын
Great video :)
@alezanders
@alezanders Ай бұрын
I was watching this game live and when this happened my first thought was “Jomboy’s gonna make this make sense”
@aeronothis5420
@aeronothis5420 Ай бұрын
Skip is the image you see when you look up "shooting yourself in the foot". Had Skip done a little more shutting his mouth and a little less yapping at Laz the clock would have been started earlier lmao.
@coopaloopmex
@coopaloopmex Ай бұрын
I like the energy that Skip brings! I hope he turns this season around and into soething great!
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