Unbelievable Side-by-Side Comparison of the Seiko "Willard" and Steeldive 1970!

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Жыл бұрын

In this video I put the Steeldive 1970 next to an original Seiko 6105-8110 "Captain Willard" to see how they compare.
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@mywatchreviews
@mywatchreviews Жыл бұрын
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@clark3830
@clark3830 11 ай бұрын
I owned an original Seiko 6105 bought in Ubon while flying out of Vietnam in 1970. I feel the Steeldive and Addiesdive homages are very close and worth every penny. They are actually better than what I wore during the Vietnam war. I have the blue Steeldive version and gave my brother the black version as I wore in 1970 with a picture of myself wearing the Seiko then.
@cherchil
@cherchil 11 ай бұрын
Glad you survived the war 🫡
@clark3830
@clark3830 11 ай бұрын
@@cherchil God bless you too.
@massagistruka
@massagistruka 8 ай бұрын
Ну и как, демократию принёс во Вьетнам? Сколько местных убил Вьетнамцев, добрый дядюшка герой войны?
@massagistruka
@massagistruka 8 ай бұрын
Главное, что часы хорошие приобрёл!
@cherchil
@cherchil 8 ай бұрын
@@massagistruka And we gonna talk about what russians did in germany and yugoslavia during ww2?
@JogieGlenMait16
@JogieGlenMait16 Жыл бұрын
If I can afford the modern Willard releases, I would buy them right away. However, I'm broke. But I am happy with my Steeldive 1970.
@armandogomez2677
@armandogomez2677 Жыл бұрын
That was me have both. I don't think I'll buy homage over re issue again.
@jeraldc.1729
@jeraldc.1729 11 ай бұрын
​@@armandogomez2677why?
@armandogomez2677
@armandogomez2677 11 ай бұрын
@@jeraldc.1729 why what? Why own a fake and a real one? The fake one I modded and looks cool wear it often. The real one I wear as a dress watch
@manuzach
@manuzach 10 ай бұрын
Good move, the 6R movement is not good either …really mixed luck
@jb678901
@jb678901 5 ай бұрын
I went for the Tandorio (for US$62) without LOGO...plus modding with an aftermarket applied LOGO (+$6). Beautiful diver with PANDA color scheme (Black ceramic bezel with Lumed PIP, white dial with black/lumed/applied indices, white chapter ring). Rest of specs same as SD and Addiesdive; i.e. NH35, sapphire crystal, 200M rating.
@alancollett8870
@alancollett8870 Жыл бұрын
I have the Steeldive 1970 with the updated crystal with clear AR coating and bracelet with a milled clasp with Steeldive logo and brand name etched into it and 6 micro adjust holes. I paid £63 in the Aliexpress sale including taxes and delivery and the watch is absolutely sensational the movement running at less then minus 5 seconds per day. This watch gets more wrist time than my Longines Hydroconquest or Panerai Marina Luminor
@garynico9872
@garynico9872 Жыл бұрын
steeldive > longines and panerai, the beauty of chinese watch
@mywatchreviews
@mywatchreviews Жыл бұрын
That’s a fantastic price deal you got!
@alamore5084
@alamore5084 Жыл бұрын
They are better than Seiko period.
@daleydose6851
@daleydose6851 Жыл бұрын
Soooo.... you wear a cheap Chinese "clone homage" over a panerai? Ok right. lol. Cause steeldive is in no way a homage. 'True homages' describe watches that take inspiration from existing timepieces while maintaining their unique elements. 'Clone homages' are those brands that copy and paste existing famous designs and rebadge them.
@PanSearedRibeye68
@PanSearedRibeye68 Жыл бұрын
@@daleydose6851Yes he does. It’s a beautiful watch and is better than the Seiko.
@Soggz7785
@Soggz7785 3 ай бұрын
The Steeldive has a Seiko movement, so to me, the difference is just in looks. I have two Steeldive, and both are great. All the best.👍🏾🇬🇧
@jackbrown3689
@jackbrown3689 3 ай бұрын
the willard original has plastic parts too, the nh35 doesnt as far as i know
@jacksoncornbreadmcbride6763
@jacksoncornbreadmcbride6763 3 ай бұрын
No Johnnie Boy​@@jackbrown3689
@jacksoncornbreadmcbride6763
@jacksoncornbreadmcbride6763 21 күн бұрын
@@reilly-vc1rm I cannot agree with you lady
@petermarusich3923
@petermarusich3923 8 күн бұрын
Hi, My first watch at the age of 16 was a 1970s Willard, it cost me $80.00 NZ dollars which was a lot of money at the time. I owned this watch for 5 years then sold for $60.00 NZ. I recently had the opportunity to purchase a Steel Dive version which I am very happy with, especially as I still had fond memories of the the original model. As much as I which like to own an original again the second hand prices are ridiculous at the age of 72 I am very happy with the Steel Dive.
@martinlloyd7563
@martinlloyd7563 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate you synchronised the seconds hand. The refurbishment video was excellent, this one was very informative, well done sir.
@mywatchreviews
@mywatchreviews Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I figured as they both hack that it’s wise to do so otherwise it would trigger some negative comments!
@williamhowes8530
@williamhowes8530 Жыл бұрын
Very nice side by side comparison; much appreciated and helpful in decision making.
@mywatchreviews
@mywatchreviews Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@duanek9892
@duanek9892 Жыл бұрын
Your restoration video of the Willard was great, with a fascinating backstory on it. The Steeldive homage is well done and quite appealing. fyi I think the Willard bezel would be called bidirectional and the Steeldive unidirectional. Very much looking forward to the video on the Seiko chrono quartz!
@mywatchreviews
@mywatchreviews Жыл бұрын
Yes I realised in edit I had said uni and bi the wrong way around but hey . I love my mistakes! Yes the Willard is great and this one has such a good story.
@ppadilla8990
@ppadilla8990 11 ай бұрын
i dig the desings but i would like to try build my own willard from aliexpress parts, lets see how it goes
@Happy357mag
@Happy357mag Жыл бұрын
I injoyed the restoration video, it really was a great story. I had the Steeldive 1970 for a couple years now and it's been a great watch. I'll be looking forward to the Seiko digital review. Thanks
@jeff1176
@jeff1176 Жыл бұрын
For what it is, an everyday wearer, the SD1970 is terrific watch for the money, no question. The Willard is a safe queen. One day if I can find a good one, I may pick one up. For now though I'm not afraid to wear the SD doing anything. Great video Mike.
@mywatchreviews
@mywatchreviews Жыл бұрын
Well said I think you are completely correct there Jeff. Thanks
@spicydragon3881
@spicydragon3881 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful video, very interesting to see the two side by side. The history and patina of the original cannot be beat. When you look at something original like that that has not been over restored it shows its history, its stories, it wears its ding and dents with pride. I also have a Steeldive that I have regulated a bit and modified with a Seiko dial, for what you get you cannot beat it for the money.
@mywatchreviews
@mywatchreviews Жыл бұрын
The backstory of this Willard is brilliant and all from meeting a guy in the next bed to me in hospital. The watch was used for its purpose that’s for sure
@johnmuthan286
@johnmuthan286 Жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks for this video! So interesting to see them side by side
@mywatchreviews
@mywatchreviews Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@williamf.9615
@williamf.9615 Жыл бұрын
Good video. Apart from nostalgia and status, applying the law of diminishing returns, I would choose the Steeldive, which I did. Got the one with the rubber waffle strap, which really is rubber. Finding a good 6105 from the 70's is almost like winning the lottery, because they weren't put in the safe as an investment, like a Rolex Daytona. They were worn and used by divers, soldiers etc. They were put through their paces. Then there is the issue of price. Anyone willing to part with one wants the going rate, which is quite high. Even a pretty knackered one. A Steeldive actually has better stats than the original.. It has a modern Seiko movement, sapphire glass, a screw down crown and don't get me going about the lume, which sensational on the SD. Maybe people will be asking 3000 whatever in 40 years time for a Steeldive. Oh, and I wouldn't want to buy one of the new Seikos, as they don't possess the charm. Strange, that a 68 quid watch is the one to buy, but life is strange sometimes.
@mywatchreviews
@mywatchreviews Жыл бұрын
Fantastic reply and agree in many ways. As a serious Seiko collector I would still love an original Willard but not for those prices so for now I will happily wear my steeldive and enjoy the look without any worry or damage or theft
@davidcrandall4958
@davidcrandall4958 10 ай бұрын
@@mywatchreviews Have you considered the SRP777?
@ericrosenberg719
@ericrosenberg719 Жыл бұрын
Nice video, great info, well-summarized, and friendly narration. Ace!
@mywatchreviews
@mywatchreviews Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@lobdsk
@lobdsk Жыл бұрын
Great video Mike. It’s awesome your doing this because no one else is. Your a true pioneer
@mywatchreviews
@mywatchreviews Жыл бұрын
I would not go that far! while I had both watches in my hands it would be crazy not to capture that on film. Thanks for watching and your comment.
@lobdsk
@lobdsk Жыл бұрын
@@mywatchreviews 😝Reminds me of what my old man used to say whenever someone said they were going crazy. He would say sounds like a short trip.
@ChrisRogers-mb9ft
@ChrisRogers-mb9ft Жыл бұрын
Hi Mike, I just received SD1970 in Green today and I have to say that it’s an awesome watch for the money. I paid just over AUD $120 and consider this is one of my best watch purchases by far when it comes to Bang for Buck. Feels really nice on my wrist, I wear my watches on my right wrist so never feel that the crown can catch on things anyway. Really enjoyed your comparison. Having never seen a Capt Willard in person I can’t comment on how they compare but I’m really happy with the SD. Keep up the great vids!
@PaulewingStHelens
@PaulewingStHelens Жыл бұрын
I’ve had the steeldive for about eighteen months. You can’t beat it for value and I do enjoy wearing it. At the end of the day though it is an homage, a copy and that’s something I’ve found is always in mind when I’m wearing it. I’m looking to buy the re-isssued Seiko version when I can find a decent deal. Great vid, thanks
@mywatchreviews
@mywatchreviews Жыл бұрын
I kind of see it the same way. It gives you a taste for the real thing.
@daleydose6851
@daleydose6851 Жыл бұрын
'True homages' describe watches that take inspiration from existing timepieces while maintaining their unique elements. 'Clone homages' are those brands that copy and paste existing famous designs and rebadge them.
@chrisphillips554
@chrisphillips554 4 ай бұрын
Loved both videos. Love my SD1970😊
@eyesonly7072
@eyesonly7072 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, I’ve been considering a Steeldive as my next watch 👍🏻
@SidBonkers51
@SidBonkers51 11 ай бұрын
As a diver I cant believe that the Seiko didnt have a unidirectional bezel, as its absolutely essential for a dive watch as any backward movement could end up giving you the wrong decompression times. Interesting to see them both together though as Ive just ordered the Steeldive SD1970 at a pretty good price I thought, £65.91 incl tax and postage. Anyway thanks for a great comparison video.
@mywatchreviews
@mywatchreviews 11 ай бұрын
It’s a good point and I don’t know why the original didn’t but then the owner of that one was a mine clearance diver in the 70s and went on to saturation diving. In saturation he didn’t need a bezel anyway they had contact with the surface at any given time . At the depths he was at as they send down in the bell they would just pull the crown out. He even dived with some real cheap quartz stuff as it didn’t matter . You did well on your steeldive price !
@sheisty1753
@sheisty1753 11 ай бұрын
@@mywatchreviews Hi Mike! Just joined your channel. Great review of these two! I look forward to seeing more of your reviews. I’ve been looking at the Steeldive MM300. I, like you am a big Seiko guy. Also like you, I’ll probably never spend $3,000 + for that piece. So here’s the thing…the MM300 is about $200 from Steeldive. There’s other watches I’d be able to put the $200 towards if I don’t buy the Steeldive. Are you comfortable with the quality of Steeldive? Or is a Steeldive you’d buy as kind of a throwaway piece? Maybe I missed your sentiment regarding that. I was wondering if you’d clear that for me. Thanks!
@mobelue
@mobelue Жыл бұрын
Thank you I bought the watch using your link! Many thanks!
@mywatchreviews
@mywatchreviews Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much sir. Enjoy it.
@dbaider9467
@dbaider9467 Жыл бұрын
Regarding replacement hands, ask Seiko directly at the Seiko museum in Tokyo. They are really helpful and proud of their products.
@mywatchreviews
@mywatchreviews Жыл бұрын
I think every man and his dog have tried things like that before me. There are millions of Willards and equal amount of collectors.
@dbaider9467
@dbaider9467 Жыл бұрын
@@mywatchreviews Not at all. I was looking for a replacement part for a Seikosha wall clock from the 40's, before the names change, and they were able to point me in the right direction to a japanese manufacturer. They even told me where and when the clock was originally sold from a japanese stamp on the back.Very nice people. A VERY courteous email is worth a try at least.
@turboeddy
@turboeddy 3 ай бұрын
Great video, thanks!
@michaelfernandez5905
@michaelfernandez5905 7 ай бұрын
Great vid, and Aloha enjoy your stay here, always love the videos.
@kenamaro3942
@kenamaro3942 8 ай бұрын
Never heard of Steeldive. I might look into them now. Thanks .
@BushCampingTools
@BushCampingTools 10 ай бұрын
I just got one of those Captain Willards, not bad not bad at all; running right on spec for the NH35 movement. Also have a SD1975 also running spot on. Reviewed them both as well. That Seiko's was popular when I was at school, all the rich kids owned them LOL.
@walther9161
@walther9161 Жыл бұрын
I Am saving my bucks for a Willard but for that price… the steel dive can’t be skipped .. thanks Mike for posting always great videos and content.
@mywatchreviews
@mywatchreviews Жыл бұрын
Thanks. Are you saving for the original or one of the more modern Seiko "Willards"?
@Ericdagreat
@Ericdagreat 5 ай бұрын
Honestly, I would save my bucks, period… and just stick with the Steeldives. I had all the Seiko’s, except for the Grand Seikos, and the Spring Drives. Nothing really worth spending over $200 for, to be quite honest. I would not mind the vintage ones, but if it was handed down to me, yard sale find, or thrift find. The Steeldives are superb quali for the price, along with the Watchdives.
@soggz4246
@soggz4246 Жыл бұрын
I have a Steeldive Willard. It’s a great watch, with a Seiko movement. To me, it’s as good, if not better, than a Seiko, simply on the cost of it. All the best.👍🏾🇬🇧
@mywatchreviews
@mywatchreviews Жыл бұрын
Its certainly much more affordable than a Seiko and yes offering a bit more in the way of specs but its still Seiko's design which they do deserve maximum respect for. Thanks for watching this one.
@Onez_1
@Onez_1 Жыл бұрын
Hi Mike everyone else. Just purchased a SD on the bay then decided to research Capt Willard then came accross your video, good job on the comp, just like to add somethings like the red coloured dive meterage pluss its 50 meters more, also the signal seconds hand on the SD for me is better as it is a lot closer to the seconds markers around the outside of the indices plus it has a red dot where the original has not. That two colour lume on the SD is a great feature. Ended up paying $102 AU and it comes with an upgraded solid steel bracelet, box and plastic cards. Ciao all enjoy.
@theleastsignificantbit4794
@theleastsignificantbit4794 Жыл бұрын
Excellent story and video!
@mywatchreviews
@mywatchreviews Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@antsfur
@antsfur Жыл бұрын
Good video nice to see the comparison.
@mywatchreviews
@mywatchreviews Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@oliver1965
@oliver1965 26 күн бұрын
Great review comparison ‼️ great back story ‼️ have now the Steeldive. Quite good hefty Diver. Very value 4 money. Get going 🚀
@michaeldemarillac9992
@michaeldemarillac9992 7 ай бұрын
I just got my SD1970 following the November sale 2023. I put a black 20mm NATO strap on it, cut and melted the double strap, so it acts as a single, and it looks and feels fantastic, sitting flush on the wrist. The watch is a keeper, it has fantastic time keeping, only 5 seconds slow per day, which is so close that I probably won't bother adjusting the setting. It looks great, get fantastic comments, I am very happy with it. I fell out of love with Seiko when they stopped production of the Seiko quartz diver. That was my preferred dive watch in the Navy, operationally it went with me on every dive, rescued people while wearing it, night diving and lume was critical for me. Nothing was so accurate, useful and practical as that dive watch, it spoiled me for anything else. I will put the SD1970 through its paces diving, I note a lot of people use if for that purpose.
@benn0723google
@benn0723google Жыл бұрын
I've just pulled the trigger on a steeldive with the green face, i have too many dark/black faced watches and wanted something different, cant wait to get hold of it, I also got mine from AliExpress and it cost me £64.10 cracking video Mike👍
@mywatchreviews
@mywatchreviews Жыл бұрын
Very nice!
@BushCampingTools
@BushCampingTools 10 ай бұрын
Good to see a watch which is/was actually used for diving.
@mywatchreviews
@mywatchreviews 10 ай бұрын
Funnily enough I’m on holiday with my Steeldive that’s now been in the pool and the sea without any issues!
@BushCampingTools
@BushCampingTools 10 ай бұрын
Yeah we were surfing the other day, no issue and some snorkelling, but weather too bad for scuba now bummer.@@mywatchreviews
@donato1771
@donato1771 29 күн бұрын
Muy buena tu reseña !!
@juzubumi
@juzubumi Жыл бұрын
Great video, I hope everything is going well with your health.
@mywatchreviews
@mywatchreviews Жыл бұрын
Thanks. Strength to strength. Been doing a lot of Prostate cancer awareness recently.
@martinkavanagh196
@martinkavanagh196 Жыл бұрын
Where else can you find such thorough reviewing? - Still watching Mike.
@mywatchreviews
@mywatchreviews Жыл бұрын
Appreciate that Martin. Glad to know I might be doing something right.
@rover213
@rover213 Жыл бұрын
I did picked mine last year, I love it, needs a bit of a clean there's a bit of a control issue in the dial, for now I'm dallying a 6139-020
@HeSewsToo
@HeSewsToo Жыл бұрын
Excellent review!
@mywatchreviews
@mywatchreviews Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@danlazer8762
@danlazer8762 Жыл бұрын
Hi Mike. Good overview. I had an original but sold it a while back and have the Steeldive now as well as the Rdunae version which is a pretty much spot on 1:1 copy. Something of note that I wish the Steeldive had was a more angled bevel on the crystal. If you look straight down on the original Seiko there is a starburst effect of the minute marks. On the Steeldive it's not really there and that is one visual that I really dig on the original.
@jeff1176
@jeff1176 Жыл бұрын
I completely agree, that crystal on the SD1970 is definitely lacking that effect. When you consider the price though, I mean what's not to love about the SD1970. If I ever pull the preferbial trigger on a Willard it would be a safe queen. Whereas the SD1970 is an everyday wearer.
@MPiKMS72
@MPiKMS72 Жыл бұрын
That is a subtle but enchanting trick of refraction.
@JamesP_TheShedShop
@JamesP_TheShedShop Жыл бұрын
Classic good looks..👍🏻
@ddeusify
@ddeusify 11 ай бұрын
Incredible, but the Steel Dive is more exciting then the Seiko. But the best homage 6105 for me of course, is the Heimdalr. Very very nice watch. Thanks for the interesting revue.
@clark3830
@clark3830 9 ай бұрын
I watched you repair that original and had to join your second channel. I found the SteelDive is actually a copy of the newer versions and not the original version. God bless love Seiko now.
@TimeForAnotherWatch
@TimeForAnotherWatch Жыл бұрын
Great video, I'm in the same boat, I'd love to own the original but the Steeldive will have to do for now!
@mywatchreviews
@mywatchreviews Жыл бұрын
Thanks. I think there are many in this boat!
@Alex-px2mb
@Alex-px2mb Жыл бұрын
Partially on the strength of this comparison, I bought the slightly different SD1972 (the more recent iteration with the Tuna hands) with the blue dial and stainless bracelet. I actually wanted the full day/date complication and although the crown is not as deeply recessed I still truly love the look as well - I echo your words about it and I still pine for the Seikos and will own one some day, but right now the money situation lets me indulge my fascination just a bit with the Steeldive for a price I can afford. Stay strong, Mike!
@mywatchreviews
@mywatchreviews Жыл бұрын
Thanks Alex. You can video homage watches as stepping stones to the real thing.
@Alex-px2mb
@Alex-px2mb Жыл бұрын
@@mywatchreviews Thank you! I agree and it does have a genuine Seiko NH36 inside, so at some point in the not-too-distant future I'll be opening it up to learn, and will prob. change the dial. It's better for a newbie to learn with a
@mywatchreviews
@mywatchreviews Жыл бұрын
A seiko is always a good place to start in watchmaking! I like Richards channel always nice to see how the pros do it. Never knew he had mentioned me? Do you perhaps remember what video it was in?
@talldarkandhandyandy5493
@talldarkandhandyandy5493 Жыл бұрын
Good review. Thanks. Just bought with your aliexpress link. Cheers from Australia
@mywatchreviews
@mywatchreviews Жыл бұрын
Hope you enjoy it! and thank you for buying from my link. Its appreciated.
@talldarkandhandyandy5493
@talldarkandhandyandy5493 Жыл бұрын
@My Watch Reviews mine just arrived yesterday. It looks and feels brilliant! Do they buy the movements from Seiko or are they just a copy movement?
@mywatchreviews
@mywatchreviews Жыл бұрын
@@talldarkandhandyandy5493 They are genuine Seiko movements. the NH series are just not badged as Seiko thats probably why anyone can buy them.
@snacklofter
@snacklofter Жыл бұрын
I have the Steeldive in blue with a sterile dial - It's been modded a bit and now has a Seiko dial - best value watch pound for pound in my entire collection!👍👍
@mywatchreviews
@mywatchreviews Жыл бұрын
Very nice! The value is just exceptional.
@thinredline2795
@thinredline2795 Жыл бұрын
Do you mind me asking where you got a Seiko dial to fit?
@darkchocolate4643
@darkchocolate4643 Жыл бұрын
I love Seiko watches, but for some reason I'm always interested in the ones that end up costing more than my car. LOL I'm about to order this watch, which is more my speed, price-wise. I'm just looking for confirmation that this watch is worth my hard earned cash, of course. :) On a more personal note: I do hope that your health issues are a thing of the past, Mike. Glad to hear that you made a good friend in the process though. Keith sounds like a gem.
@mywatchreviews
@mywatchreviews Жыл бұрын
Thanks. Health wise I am getting there. Its all in the past although I still have to suffer daily reminders.
@brianmsahin
@brianmsahin Жыл бұрын
I have a Seiko Willard. I have the SKX. I have the Seiko Tuna and I have the Steeldive Tuna and it's great. I got the yellow dial Tuna as I love it. I also have a 3rd gen Monster but I still bought the red dial pointy teeth 2nd Gen Heimdallr Monster in red and I love it! I got both because I loved the colours and Seiko never made them. And yes, the Heimdallr and Steeldive have a better sapphire crystal and the Heimdallr also has a better bracelet than my Seiko ones..........but Seiko is Seiko...can't beat them. Honestly I wouldn't buy a homage that can be confused with an original, hence the dial colours Seiko never made. Personal choice for me and not a criticism of people who get ones that do look like the original. If you get a good deal with better crystals and bracelet to boot with the original Seiko movement inside, go for it!!
@mywatchreviews
@mywatchreviews Жыл бұрын
You have good ethics Brian and totally respect your point of view. I got the SD purely as I never thought a Willard would come my way at a price I would be willing to pay. Now after handling it and looking at the two I am pleased the SD is not a complete one for one copy. Its watch I enjoy and one to take on holiday knowing it can handle everything and I'd not be afraid of it being pinched.
@brianmsahin
@brianmsahin Жыл бұрын
@@mywatchreviews Exactly my friend. Buy what you like, wear what you're happy with. I only draw the line at counterfeit watches, then I'd feel as fake as the watch. We should add, if Seiko are happy to sell their movements to these companies knowing exactly what they do there's absolutely nothing to feel bad about. In fact these companies are just honoring the legacy of iconic designs but aren't pretending to be Seiko.
@Rid_Of_Thee
@Rid_Of_Thee Жыл бұрын
I know what you mean. It is just something in me that wants to have the original version of a watch.
@peterrussell3854
@peterrussell3854 Жыл бұрын
Check out the Rdunae willard. It is a much more accurate homage, even down to the 4 o'clock crown, 19mm lug, dial details and bezel shape. At £150 I'm pleased with mine. I've got the seiko 151 and it's a bit small. 6105 is on it's way from the U S, But I think the Rdunae will still be a great daily.
@manoloramireza
@manoloramireza Жыл бұрын
Awesome comparison! You got a new suscriber today.
@mywatchreviews
@mywatchreviews Жыл бұрын
Thanks and welcome
@lulul
@lulul Жыл бұрын
I love that steeldive, i wish i had one.
@rrich52806
@rrich52806 10 ай бұрын
great video
@mywatchreviews
@mywatchreviews 10 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@rosstisbury1626
@rosstisbury1626 Жыл бұрын
Interesting enjoyed the vid. Luv my steeldives I have 3 now, latest has small but noticeable improvements to quality and Finnish.
@knutjunker2019
@knutjunker2019 7 ай бұрын
I own the Willard Hommage from Heimdallr and find it much more accurate than the Steeldive in terms of design. The quality of workmanship is also much better with Heimdallr. However, it also costs a little more than the Steeldive and is probably only surpassed by the San Martin Willard. But that doesn't make the Steeldive a worse watch, on the contrary, it's worth every cent.
@mywatchreviews
@mywatchreviews 7 ай бұрын
There are many homages but I find the ones that are too close to the original more a copy than a homage. Do they have 19mm lugs because that denotes the whole case size.
@knutjunker2019
@knutjunker2019 7 ай бұрын
@@mywatchreviews The Heimdallr has a lug wigth of 20 mm. like the Steeldive.
@FiremanFrach
@FiremanFrach 3 ай бұрын
I love my Heimdallr. Very well put together.
@simonosborne3047
@simonosborne3047 Жыл бұрын
I have the 1980 version, identical to the 1970 except the minute track is on the rehaut rather than the dial. Gives the impression of being slightly larger. Steeldive are definitely my fave micro for quality/price - twice as good as PD for the same price, score slightly less that San Martin but you pay at least double for a SM.
@mywatchreviews
@mywatchreviews Жыл бұрын
I didnt even know there was a 1980 version until you said.
@anthonyhulse1248
@anthonyhulse1248 7 ай бұрын
I love the look of my Steeldive on my wrist. And one day I’ll get the Willard.
@mywatchreviews
@mywatchreviews 7 ай бұрын
I am the same. The originals still hold so much value though.
@artvandeco4135
@artvandeco4135 Жыл бұрын
You didn't show the case backs side by side. Loved the Willard resto vid. In fact, love most of your vids. Please keep up your good work, and your good health.
@mywatchreviews
@mywatchreviews Жыл бұрын
Thanks. The Steeldive caseback as a weird character engraved on it. The Seiko caseback is just classic Seiko.
@brucecoleman7412
@brucecoleman7412 Ай бұрын
I have a black Steeldive and an Addiesdive with a white textured dial. My Steeldive has a milled clasp and the Addiesdive has a pressed clasp. I think I paid around $80 for the SD and around $55 for the AD. They seem to be the same watch with different dials, bezels, and clasps.
@m.s.g1890
@m.s.g1890 8 ай бұрын
Looks great! I wear my Steeldive 1996 all the time on a nato and looks sweet. I would 'upgrade' to an skx if a sensibly priced one came along, but I'd miss the hacking. I wouldn't miss the horrible blue AR coating though.
@mywatchreviews
@mywatchreviews 7 ай бұрын
I dont get the SKX prices, its not the best Seiko out there by far but because some of the big KZfaqrs talk about them all the sheep have followed. Its an 7S26 movement which is crap, full of plastic and a far cry from the 70## that came before it. Id have a Seiko Turtle over an SKX all day long.
@m.s.g1890
@m.s.g1890 7 ай бұрын
@@mywatchreviews pretty much summed it up there! I’d only get a low priced one, and that’s just because it’s classic watch to add to the collection. But I’d still want to get the movement changed. Turtle is a great watch!
@mywatchreviews
@mywatchreviews 7 ай бұрын
I am talking to Namoki Mods about reviewing a build from them at the moment. I plan to use their SKX case and make my own design. what they seem to offer is decent enough. I do understand wanting the original and Ive also been looking, but for a beaten up one that I can restore on video for my other channel.
@FiremanFrach
@FiremanFrach 3 ай бұрын
I just won a Heimdallr “Willard” homage on eBay $63.00 USD). It’s amazing. The only difference my amateur eye can see is the PIP is raise, the coin edge is similar to the Steeldive and the crystal is sapphire with AR-coating.
@ianmarr2557
@ianmarr2557 Жыл бұрын
I bought a Steeldive sterile dial and couldn't be happier with the value for money. Loses less than 2 seconds average per day. Awesome. A solid chunk of metal too.
@mywatchreviews
@mywatchreviews Жыл бұрын
As long as you don’t mind the borrowed design you can’t really fault it. Even as a big seiko fan I love my SD
@MPiKMS72
@MPiKMS72 Жыл бұрын
@@mywatchreviews i think these inexpensive homages or reproductions serve a purpose. I mean they are cheap enough to be tool watches. (Well maybe not for serious diving but dive computers are the norm nowadays anyway.) I can wear a Steeldive or San Martin or whatever doing a lot of activities I would never wear an original for.
@ianmarr2557
@ianmarr2557 Жыл бұрын
@@mywatchreviews it's comfortable and as I said, keeps amazing time. It's given me the itch and I'm saving for an original Seiko, so I would say it has served Seiko well in the long run?
@MPiKMS72
@MPiKMS72 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video! I think i prefer the slight visual distortion the original domed crystal has. Also the crown guards and larger undercut would appear to make the crown easier to wind and set. I find the Steeldive's hard to grasp.
@mywatchreviews
@mywatchreviews Жыл бұрын
Good comment. Domed is the original so its the right look but I just like flat crystals mainly as I can photo and film them easier!
@MPiKMS72
@MPiKMS72 Жыл бұрын
@@mywatchreviews Ha! No doubt! Another thing I noticed is that the domed crystal also seems to make it look like there is a phantom circle of minute indices. Some odd effect of the refraction? Almost an illusion of a printed rehaut or something. Really neat!
@propblast82nd
@propblast82nd Жыл бұрын
I was a paratrooper in 1971 and almost bought one at the PX but $95 was a lot of money back then 😢
@josephatnip2398
@josephatnip2398 5 күн бұрын
I bought the addiesdive sterl version with no logos on the steel bracelet it's a good watch for everyday wear holds up decent I have no complaints all I've ever done to it was to size the bracelet and oil the bracelet and rotating bezel with gun oil and wipe it all down
@lbco5229
@lbco5229 9 ай бұрын
I was just showing my original Willard and Pogue to my son last night.
@clark3830
@clark3830 6 ай бұрын
I own the Seiko in blue. It is very close to the newer anniversary edition Seiko. I am a Vietnam pilot flying F-4C/Ds out of Ubon. I owned an original. Lost it when I popped out 100 clicks north of Udorn coming home.
@martinkavanagh196
@martinkavanagh196 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike, - not wanting to "blow smoke" anywhere but you do have an honest relaxing presentation style AND more importantly - content that is fact based & interesting. I'd buy a 'Steeldive' no worries about "copying". - Surely it is a fact that EVERY wristwatch with hands, a strap or bracelet, and a crown is copying every previously made piece. The rest of that discussion is just about style & dimensions. - 'FORGERY' using fake logos etc is something other eh. As I already have a few original SEIKOS including my 6309-7040 TURTLE from 1978 I'm in no rush for a "Willard" look alike .. but one is on the list. Cheers mate and Thank You.
@mywatchreviews
@mywatchreviews Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind words Martin. Pleased my style is enjoyable. I personally have no issue with the Steeldive after all I own it. It would have been nicer if Seiko had never reintroduced the model as then the homage would be of a watch well out of production which sits a lot better with the majority.
@max420thc
@max420thc Жыл бұрын
Patents eventually run out, copyrighted logos would be a felony in the US. But people do it. It is scary to buy a Rolex for example unless you are a expert in Rolex watches. There are piles of counterfeit ones floating around and many of them it’s even hard for a expert to identify.
@borbetomagus
@borbetomagus Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this comparison. I wish you had compared their lumes, though the Seiko wouldn't fair well given it's age.
@mywatchreviews
@mywatchreviews Жыл бұрын
I didn’t think it would be fair. In the restoration video on my main channel I do show the lume on the original but it fades in seconds
@chris101gray3
@chris101gray3 4 ай бұрын
I bought a "San Martin" branded variant of this watch about 2 years ago. All I had to compare it to was one of the re-issue turtles. I can tell you that the San Martin is better in every single way to the overpriced Seiko turtle which is at best an entry level watch despite the prospex designation. Seiko came with hardlex crystal, aluminium bezel insert, very poor quality janky bracelet, and of course the obligatory chapter ring misalignment all for the price of NZD $899. For $170 the San Martin 6105 had far superior build, fit and finish. Perfect bezel, dial, chapter ring alignment. White date wheel, Ceramic lumed bezel, Domed sapphire crystal, NH36 (4R36) movement with hacking, smoother bezel movement with no play, beautiful signed crown, signed solid stainless buckle and stamped thick soft silicone strap, etc... Honestly I will never buy another Seiko again due to the price to value comparison. Seiko are simply poor value for money and the prices keep rising. I don't care for resale values etc... I keep watches for life, not to flip, and a lot of these homages offer far better quality and value than anything in Seiko's current lineup.
@jacksoncornbreadmcbride6763
@jacksoncornbreadmcbride6763 3 ай бұрын
You're completely wrong Chrissy
@bigshoe84
@bigshoe84 6 ай бұрын
At least I am helping support Seiko when buying all my homage watches since they all use Seiko movements.
@martinryder6910
@martinryder6910 9 күн бұрын
Picked mine at £46 on rubber strap (inc tax and VAT). The price fluctuates each day but the lowest I've seen is £37 with a steel bracelet
@mywatchreviews
@mywatchreviews 6 күн бұрын
That's unreal
@dubcheck2943
@dubcheck2943 11 ай бұрын
My 1970 was the 2nd watch in my collection. Still gets a lot of wrist time. Find the case shape real comfy. Looking at buying another so i can mod the dial and hands.
@moboei
@moboei 8 ай бұрын
Iam actually looking at buying the Rdunae R2x Like the look of it
@marionboren5787
@marionboren5787 Жыл бұрын
I own a addiesdive willard homage. I wouldn't spend the money for the seiko the addiesdive as well as the steeldive have sapphire crystal and ceramic bezel and the nh35 seiko movment is a major upgrade as well. Thank you seiko for the design but my vote goes to the modern version and you can't beat the price and if it fails throwing away and buy a new one . I have the strap and don't like it I have huge wrists and the strap is way to long and stiff as a board. The tropic strap is the strap for this watch.
@daleydose6851
@daleydose6851 Жыл бұрын
'True homages' describe watches that take inspiration from existing timepieces while maintaining their own unique elements. 'Clone homages' are those brands that copy and paste existing famous designs and rebadge them.
@mywatchreviews
@mywatchreviews Жыл бұрын
Its a fine line they tread. In the same vain we could say that every watch with a bezel is copying Rolex etc. I would have the original our of these two all day long but its not affordable to get a good one that is not filled with aftermarket parts. At that point @ £2000 I would not want to wear it often due to risk of damage or even theft.
@alexharris8500
@alexharris8500 Жыл бұрын
I love copy's. I'm very poor.
@RoberttSmithh
@RoberttSmithh Жыл бұрын
There’s an ebay seller from the Philippines who sells the dial and hands for the 6105. Unfortunately you cant buy them separately, you have to buy the dial as well. Maybe you could use the dial on your steeldive
@mywatchreviews
@mywatchreviews Жыл бұрын
The genuine Willard is not mine. I would not want to modify the Steeldive to have a seiko dial as I think that is cheating really.
@dtroutmann
@dtroutmann Жыл бұрын
I might just have to buy an SL a051 now I do love my steeldive though
@mayorofrlyeh8042
@mayorofrlyeh8042 Жыл бұрын
Most accurate homage is probably the Rdunae RX2. Would love to see that one pairing up with the original.
@iefung3304
@iefung3304 Жыл бұрын
Agree
@clark3830
@clark3830 8 ай бұрын
Any of the NH movements can be timegraphed to 1-2spd if you have the time to adjust them. I adjust every one I buy.
@martincoxon1329
@martincoxon1329 17 күн бұрын
very interesting review. have you made a review for the seiko tuna homage? Cheers
@mywatchreviews
@mywatchreviews 16 күн бұрын
Not yet.
@tunokies
@tunokies Жыл бұрын
Currently wearing my Rdunae which is soooo close in case and crystal to my 6105-8000 that it's unreal.
@mywatchreviews
@mywatchreviews Жыл бұрын
I have heard this too. I’m more happy the SD is not a complete one for one copy really.
@boldmeregarden637
@boldmeregarden637 Жыл бұрын
I have the Steeldive and mostly love it. However i hate the shine between the lugs when it is with a rubber strap. (Someone should make a curved rubber strap with an endlink sized thickness at the watch case) Has anyone de-shined theirs and how did you do it?
@mywatchreviews
@mywatchreviews Жыл бұрын
Use some ultra fine scotchbrite pads as they will remove a shine and give a brushed finish . Just mask off areas you want to protect
@TheRugbyman904
@TheRugbyman904 Жыл бұрын
Hey I have a couple of lovely 1969 seiko navigators if you want to review ... Also if you want a Willand I have a lovely original one with diver history and letter with an original box I might sell in the future
@Goudi-xh2tq
@Goudi-xh2tq 3 ай бұрын
Bonjour Belle présentation ! Je suis vraiment tenté, pensez vous que la steeldive peut être révisée facilement en cas de problème ? J'aimerai également acheter un bracelet caoutchouc gaufré quel modèle conseillé vous ? En vous remerciant par avance ! Goudi
@22magnum68
@22magnum68 Жыл бұрын
The bezel diameter and dial diameter on the Steeldive look slightly smaller to me. And the Seiko definately looks larger overall.
@bjw4859
@bjw4859 8 ай бұрын
The 1st video of yours I saw was where you did up Keith's watch & it was a top video & I recomend it for anyone who hasn't seen it. I have only started watching watch restorations recently & one you may know is Marshall at Wristwatch Revival & he has replaced the lume on the original hands so they would be the same parts, had you considered doing that ?. I have also looked at the Steeldive tribute watch but I'm not a collector so maybe in the future.
@mywatchreviews
@mywatchreviews 8 ай бұрын
Thanks. Try not to compare me to Marshall. We are about the same skill level but he makes his videos a lot more slick than I do. I’ve lumed loads of watches and done a few videos on luming dials and hands. You have to know many old watches have radioactive lume and you can’t touch that! Called radium. On Keith’s watch it’s possible but would be tricky and it’s worth far more all original than if you are restoring it. One of the surrounds, I think at 12 was rusty so ultimately that would effect the new lume in time.
@bjw4859
@bjw4859 8 ай бұрын
@@mywatchreviews That's ok, sorry was not trying to compare but it looked like a solution to keeping the original parts & I do understand about keeping original parts unaltered, though for me it was with classic cars, I have had to leave to many car shows almost in tears because of all the chromed to the hill pimpmobiles that were once a beautiful classic with well earned patina, your review convinced me to bite the bullet & get a SD1970, thanks so much.
@RoberttSmithh
@RoberttSmithh Жыл бұрын
You should check out the rdunae. It’s very true to the original
@snacklofter
@snacklofter 8 ай бұрын
👍👍
@marionboren5787
@marionboren5787 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't spend the money on the Seiko, they can keep the nostalgia. The first off the movement is dated, it comes with a domed minerals crystal that's hard to read in the sun light and aluminium bezel insert, the steel dive comes with a hand wind hacking nh35 Sapphire crystal and a ceramic bezel insert all of Wich is a upgrade from the Seiko at a small fraction of the price. A original captain Willard in perfect condition can cost as much as 3,000 dollars. You can buy a steeldive or Addiesdive for 100 bucks and I forgot about the loom the loom is absolutely fantastic.
@mywatchreviews
@mywatchreviews 11 ай бұрын
Like everything though the original has the provenance and value, it’s also where the design came from so you have to admire it as a collector piece. Steeldive is all the look and an upgrade without the risk of theft , damage or abuse. It’s why I like mine so much
@endy_fx
@endy_fx Жыл бұрын
Honestly I don't hate the Steeldive. It's a 2020s take on a 60 year old design whilst still using a Seiko movement. I think the number of people that save 1200 quid for the original and then decide to buy the 80 quid homage is going to be very low. If you want the Willard that's what you buy. If you want a nice dive watch with a classic design on a budget, the Steeldive is the way to go. To each their own :)
@mywatchreviews
@mywatchreviews Жыл бұрын
Thats a good take on it. Look at me I am a massive Seiko fan but I bought the SD. Firstly to see what everyone was talking about and found I actually was really liking it. Thing is too that ultimately it does make me want to have the real thing also.
@todd344
@todd344 Жыл бұрын
I got the new it cost me 1200 us my dad still got the old one he got at the p x in 1972
@CaptainWillard830
@CaptainWillard830 Жыл бұрын
Very cool that your father still has his original Willard he bought at the “Post Exchange” aka PX! That’s a family heirloom now and has a great story to go with it! Very cool! Semper Fi …
@nigelbowler1601
@nigelbowler1601 Жыл бұрын
HI sure i like yourself are a watch collector i have the hulk green dial which I personally prefer due to owning a variety of dive watches so my conclusion it's a no brainer a real value for money great watch.
@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR
@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR Жыл бұрын
Don’t get that watch anywhere near that legend!!!!!!!;)
@mywatchreviews
@mywatchreviews Жыл бұрын
Hey there Russell. Didn’t know you viewed this channel . The legend remains a legend and will always be. To be fair I think all the rehash Seikos who have this style (you own one) just don’t have the same vibe as the original Here’s me say that owning the Steeldive 😂😂
@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR
@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR Жыл бұрын
@@mywatchreviews hahahaha of course my friend! Listen I’m only kidding . In terms of specs the Willard wouldn’t win! A modern Willard would but there’s the price. In 1969 the lunar lander that first let man on the moon (aparently;) had less computer power than my car! Doesn’t mean my car can get to the moon;)
@TeaandTickers
@TeaandTickers Жыл бұрын
Seiko bezel is Bidirectional not unidirectional.
@mywatchreviews
@mywatchreviews Жыл бұрын
Yes. It was a slip of the tongue that I noticed in edit but too late to correct! A few people picked me up on this one now 😂
@yozfilm6275
@yozfilm6275 9 ай бұрын
Are these two casebacks able to interchange?
@mywatchreviews
@mywatchreviews 9 ай бұрын
Sorry I don’t know. I doubt it
@aponinenaugcasio8456
@aponinenaugcasio8456 6 ай бұрын
How about changing the hands and bezel of the steeldive to match the green lume of the dial brining it closer to the seiko-ish lumibrite.
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