When Jesus comes back, it will not be to talk things over - the Bible reveals He will be coming to rid the world of evil, and to save GOD's people from being exterminated

Only the Catholic Church retains the pure and entire message of Jesus Christ. All other churches or denominations are either schisms or heresies.

@@GeorgePenton-np9rh if you belive Erhman, than the catholic bible is also inaccurate.

@@lina25yt I don't know where you got the idea that I agree with Ehrman. I strongly disagree with him. I believe strongly in the divinity of Christ. Ehrman makes the argument that only the gospel of John says Jesus is God and that the other three gospels do not. What I was saying is that in all four gospels Jesus let's people call Him "Lord", a term the Jews used almost exclusively for God, so that in my opinion all four gospels say Jesus is God.

@George Penton It's worth noting that Jesus does not mention or associate the Catholic church in His message of salvation, but moreso, and that the temple(often translated church in English Bibles), is likened to Jesus' body, as-in, the body of Christian fellowship. And in contrast with the Catholic church(as it were), that would be formed several centuries following Jesus' death and resurrection, would not reflect Jesus teachings and commandments.

ARE YOU SURE ABOUT RED SEA😀😀

Exodus 14:21 says that the Lord did it not Moses

@@Kenneth-nVA show me in the Bible where Jesus says "I am God therefore worship me". Don't give me metaphors or conjecture. Give me verbatim.

@@efiq78 are you sure Jesus did anything on his own? Uh you won't find that anywhere in the Bible

@@efiq78 and yes I am sure about the Red Sea. The cutest thing about followers of Christ. None speak Aramaic and very few even read at all

Muses pbuh was a prophet and as well as Jesus Pbuh too. But animies of humanity changed the words like i am not God, and they removed the word not. And that becomes an other beleif. Jesus said i am not the son of God and enemies of humanity removed the word not. Just a little change made Him God and all the christians till date now have not convinced any single human being that Jesus is God or the son of God because he was not a god or not a son of God. He was a true christ and he had miracles like other prophets. But when human will beleive blindly, than they are worst than animals because God has given the power to understand and in an other verse in the bible it is clearly mention that God is not a man and not the son of a man. In new testament God is not human, that he should lie, not a human being, that he should change his mind. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill Aramaic Bible in Plain English God is not a man that He would lie, neither a son of man to be advised; He says and he does and his word stands for eternities. Quran Is the last book of God. And everything is clearly mention. And most imoortant thing the true words of God in the Quran according to christian are from devil. Because christains beleive what is written. I never mind we should beleive in the words of God. But the thing is what is being mentioned, it should be proved. Or even could easily convinced to your brain and no christian brother even can convince himself from one verse to an other and result is sheikh Yousuf Estes.

@@smalltimer4370 It's not clear exactly who you think is full of shit. Ehrman or Williams?

​@@Raz.CEhrman is a bad foil.

read his book-How Jesus became God.

Bart knows nothing about truth. He pushes Jesus name which is a pagan lie and he definitely does not know the truth about how Immanuel became Yahweh the Father in the flesh.

Former Christian here but I gotta hand it to Justin. He seems VERY balanced as a host/moderator. Unafraid to question/challenge both sides, and then step back and let them give a full answer. We need more folks like that.

" But about the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom. 9 You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness; therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions by anointing you with the oil of joy.” Hebrews Chapter One.

@@wrcrawford548 You hit it.😑

lokmane , you cant pick up only one or two verses part by part, Bible is Phericopae , its comprehensive way to be understood, not partially, If you see the testimony of prophesy of ISAIAH 9: 6, YESHUA / JESUS is the MIGHTY GOD, EVERLASTING FATHER , this is legitimite Prophesy Isaiah is Infallible and inspired by ELOHIM , Not from his own mouth ,,or any man idea, but ELOHIM spoke to him, Those verse, of Issiah 9:6 is backing up Jhon 1:1 The word f God is God, not "a god" ( like NWT of Jehovah witnesses translated it ) And Again Hebrew 1:8-9 God he mention Jesus as God , And all God commanded all angles must worship him ( Jesus ) Hebrew 1: 6 Remember this : angles is not deserve to be Worshiped , only GOD Deserve to be worship, And God commanded all angles must worship Jesus, JESUS is ALFA AND OMEGA The WORD OF GOD Revelation 1:8 revelation 1: 17-18 ( compare to Jhon 1:1 the WORD of GOD = JESUS is GOD , ) JESUS although in the FORM OF GOD He humble Himself ,He didnt put Himself in equal with God Philippians 2:6, Colossians 1:15, Hebrew 1:3 1 TIMOTHY 3:16 GOD MANIFEST HIMSELF AS FLESH IN JESUS FORM,, It was not because i want to believe Jesus is God ? NO but its Bible testimony and Bible is the writen holy scriptures from God through all His prophets and Apostles, A TRUE CHRISTIAN MUST BELIEVE WHAT BIBLE SAY AS IT IS NOT AS WHAT RELIGIOUS LEADER OR ANY MAN OPINION,, which involving their hiden agendas and egotism, ( which many of them are , that is why one Bible becoming millions of different teaching against each others , ) TRUE CHRISTIAN MUST SUBMIT TO THE WORD OF GOD, there are many peoples dont submit to the word of God , therefore they made up their own truth, to satisfied their fleshly desire , Romans 10:3 Jesus say : if you dont believe that I am HE you will die in your sins , Jhon 8:24 kjv Who is Jesus mean when he said about HE ☝🏽 ? Let continue to follow Jhon 8 :27 kjv They understood not the he spake to them of the FATHER Yes Jesus say to the Jews , you will die in your sin if you dont believe I AM GOD / FATHER , do we need more testimony of God word about it ? Let we see Isaiah 9: 6 For unto us a child is born ,unto us a son is given and the government shall be upon his shoulder and HIS NAME shall be called : Wonderful Counselor , The MIGHTY GOD, The EVERLASTING FATHER ,The Prince Of Peace ■ Isaiah made those prophesy 700 years earlier before Jesus came onto the earth , why did he say like Jesus were already appear in his day ? Because 1000 year is only one day in God Eyes 2 Peter 3:8 700 years not even one day in God eyes , God said to Adam: if you eat those fruit in that day you will die, and Adam and Eve they died at the age more than 980 years = less than one day, GOD IS NOT LORD OF CONFUSION 1 Corinthian 14:33 Human ignorancy and ignoramus is sources of global confusion , when God said 2+2 = 4 human interpreted it becoming 2+2 = 22, just because they claim to be great mathematician, and they follower believe them, their logic turn in to butt hole, is that sound like sophisticated problem ? They say : what God think is different than we human use to think, what human love that is what God hate, everything what God dont like that is what human love to do so ( its product misquotation ,mostly Christian are Biblical illeterate / lazy to read the Bible alone, but diligently watching porn, theynwrnt to the church which full of phedofiliac, and the galse teacher 2 Peter 2: 1-3 , MONEY is their first interest , religion offer the biggest field for lazy peoples to make ton of money without drop of sweat, but their saliva ☝🏽😲🖐🏼💦 👍🏼😭splatered every where on the spiritual boogie woogie stage ,they speak whatever ,and the members believe them , this kind of man philosophy sound right and its end up in deadly road Proverb 14:12, 15 , Colossians 2:8 they are not from Christ,,but from their lord of stomach and genital Philipians 3:19 ) With love in Yahushua Ha Masiach for you all , Salvation only in Yahushua name Acts 4:12 Jesus is Yahushua Ha Masiach = YAH OUR SALVATION ,Shalom Alaichem Bashem Yahushua Ha Masiach ,,

@@dellythezar8047 Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. John 17:3 According to Jesus who is the only true god ?

@@dzairtech Jesus called True God as ABBA =;FATHER and ELOI / ELOHIM Jesus never mention as "Jehovah " NEVER , NOT EVEN ONCE in NT scriptures, True ELOHIM is AHAYAH ASHER AHAYAH becoming I AM THAT I AM in english translation ,Exodus 3: 14 KJV, and translated in Greek tetragramaton as YHWH,, And WHAT IS THE WILL OF GOD for everyone shall do ? Jhon 6: 40 KJV 👉 AND THIS IS THE WILL OF HIM , THAT SENT ME , that every which seeth the son ,as BELIEVETH ON HIM , MAY HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE and I will raise him up at the last day, Jhon 6: 44 KJV 👉 NO man can come to me ,except the Father which hath sent me draw him : and i will raise him up at the last day. Jhon 14:6 Jesus is The WAY the TRUTH the LIFE, no one can come to ELOHIM / GOD without through Him, Acts 4: 12 SALVATION is ONLY IN YAHUSHUA/ JESUS NAME NO ANY OTHER NAME under heaven, ELOHIM ABBA has sent JESUS as the SALVATION for mankind in the world/ on earth 1Jhon 4:14, This is very important foundation of true Christian Faith , that is HAVE FAITH IN CHRIST, AND FEAR OF ELOHIM on the base of love, ( integrity , not fear of thief get busted by police man ) Jehovah Witness draw peoples in to Jehovah ORGANIZATION ,, by recruiting them,, But TRUE GOD draw people to Jesus, Jhon 6: 40, 44, not in to Religious denomination, nor Organization neither sect or churches or Cult but TO JESUS CHRIST that is THE WILL OF TRUE GOD, that everyone shall believe in Jesus , IT IS GOD WILL NOT ANY MAN WILL , Yes according to Jesus the true God is ELOHIM , ABBA / FATHER IN HEAVEN who already given His name to His begotten Son YAHUSHUA HA MASIACH / YAH IS OUR SALVATION , = IESOUS CHRISTOS , / JESUS CHRIST Jhon 17:11-12 KJV, Therefore to Call Jesus name mean to Call His Father name ,,,,, the name of Jehovah never exist in Bible , YHWH is not Jehovah, impossible becoming Jehovah, no such vowel exist, Hallelu YAH is not Hallelu JEH , " Jehovah" is a name invented by a Catholic monk namely Raymundus Martini, in 17 century, in his book called " Pugio Fidey" / Dagger of faith , Later on becoming popularized by William Tyndale a Bible translator from Germany when he made translstion of PANTETEUCH / 5 BOOK OF MOSES , since that time the name of " Jehovah" prevalently use , YHWH is not Jehovah, its imposdible pronounciation,,( see Jewish Rabbinic dictionary concerning to YHWH , ) The letter of J does not exist in any language until early 16 century, The J letter is an experimental letter from " I " by adding the " tail" under it becoming "J " IESUS is not JESUS, IEREMIA is not JEREMIAH, etc , there is no " J " letter in Hebrew nor in Greek, Jehovah is not correct pronounciation or vowel of YHWH , but YaHuWeH is nearest in to proper pronounciation , no J neither V, The ONLY THROUGH JESUS PEOPLE WILL KNOW the REAL TRUE GOD, Jhon14:6 The very foundation of all true Christian Faith is SALVATION , Acts 4:12 16: 30-31, Without JESUS no one will know TRUE GOD, Genesis 1 :3 God SAITH let there be the light and there was the light, 👉 Jhon 1:3 Genesis 1: 1 KJV In the beginning GOD created Jhon 1:1 KJV In the beginning was the WORD God SAITH = God WORD , 👉 the WORD of GOD is JESUS Jhon 1:14, , In Old Testament when ELOHIM SPOKE TO ALL PROPHETS OF ISREAL , THAT WAS VOICE OF JESUS THE WORD OF GOD, all Bible from beginning till last pages its all about JESUS ,,= GOD WORD , Shalom Aleichem Bashem Yahushua Ha Masiach , Elohim love in Christ be with you all,

Is it in your CULT BOOK UNHOLY QURAN? Lord Jesus Christ NEVER said such a Blasphemous thing.!! Lord Jesus Christ is God Almighty "Yahweh/Yahovah" Revealed and Manifested Himself in the Eternal Person of the Lord Yahshua/Jesus Christ.!! Unless He open your blinded eyes, you can't comprehend His Deity.!! 👉Numbers24:15-17; Psalms2:1-12; 110:1-7; Proverbs30:4; Isaiah9:6-7; Daniel2:34-49; 7:13-14; Micah 5:1-5; Zechariah 12-14; Malachi4:1-3; John 1:1-28; 8:24; 12:-44-48; 14:6-9; 2Corinthians 4:3-4; Colossians1:15-20;2:9-10; Hebrews1:1-13; Revelation 1:1-19;5:1-14; 19:11-21;20:1-15;21:5-8.!!👈

Rajesh Gowda Brave Hearted nah it is not a cult book, it is the holy al-Quran maybe now you’ll be that champion and as far you’ll know it you’ll drag from it, I can’t promise you now, but you’ll be drag about that al-Quran and then you’ll understand it very much, “some day” not today or any other day but you will drag when you need to know the truths 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

Rajesh Gowda Brave Hearted if you said Jesus is your “lord” then how bout this... John 16 : 12- 14 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come And this: Matthew 5:17 Do not think I have come to abolish the Law or the “Prophets”; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. Why did you call him god?? 🤔🤔🤔

@@muhammadkhairulizat The very Words of Christ and His Prophets and Apostles Refutes and dismantles all the Heretical claims of cult ISLAM.! Unholy Quran teaches against the God of the Bible and Double Curse is pronounced on those who introduce the Counterfeit false gospel against the Immutable Eternal Words of God, the Holy Bible.!!

@@muhammadkhairulizat Promised Comforter Jesus promised to His Church is Holy Spirit whom Disciples RECEIVED On the 50th day after Christ's Glorious Resurrection, Not after 600 Years in Saudi Arabian cave cult.!! Muhammad was NOT a Spirit of God, Muhammad was a pagan idolatrous arab who NEVER read the Bible, he never believed in the God of the Bible, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob/Israel.!! Muhammad was worshipper of pagan idolatrous false moon god also known as Baal, Hubal, whom Muhammad named Allah and Satan possessed Muhammad and used him to fabricate his death cult and leading all his followers to Eternal Damnation.!

Does how calm someone appears or how much they stutter matter compared to the actual points they make?

@@yxtqwf Yes because in this case, it indicates the trinity guy lacks confidence in the nonsense he's spouting.

Bart will be calm until you asked him so was the universe created or not?

@@billyroland2758 Bart hardly use any hard evidence He just throws questions and play with uncertainty and he is very good with it. It is normal for other guys will lack confidence talking with such an expert But will any of Bart's statement change the faith of the other guy or true Christian? no chance Much more of a nonsense is if you believe in no God (atheist) or pagan

He’s a very smart guy but his theory is complete nonsense he really doesn’t understand Christian theology.

He had the view he considered Jesus to be divine, John did just what you are describing.

There was a large movement of people from that time period that believed he was God because of the great miracles He performed. It's clear from antiquity He did things no one had ever seen. Jewish leaders wanted to kill Him because so many thought He was God, they were convinced. He didn't need to say it even though He did in other verses implicitly. If we take the microscope back from each individual verse and look at the 100 years after He died and hundreds of years after that, its clear, people believed Him to be God for MANY good reasons....

@@miracleOfLights Look at John 12:9 - 11. 'Meanwhile a large crowd of Jews found out that Jesus was there and came, not only because of him but also to see Lazarus, whom he had raised from the dead. 10 So the chief priests made plans to kill Lazarus as well, 11 for on account of him many of the Jews were going over to Jesus and believing in him." NIV They were 'believing in him..' Not as God, but as the Messiah. As the context clearly shows. I agree he performed great miracles. But miracles were a sign from God that this man had his full support and blessings. In the work he was doing. The cheif priests were interested in killing two men whom they saw as a threat to their power. No first century Jewish people would ever think a man was God. The trinity is a much later development.

@@billyroland2758 dude, you are very oblivious to biblical theology, the biblical text and the greek manuscripts. basically the entire New Testament from the oldest manuscripts, directly and indirectly, poetically, theologically and literally, points out that Jesus is God. Just undertanding the basics of Jesus teachings, you will know that all the basis of what he said points to him.

@@ArthurAgamenon_ In your comment. You didn't supply any Biblical references. It's as if you're suggesting, I should accept what you say, because you say so. You presented not one fact to support your conclusions. Now here's something for you to think about. Read Luke 18: 18,19. Who was Jesus contrasting himself with at Luke 18 :19? I would be most grateful if you would answer the question.

I think Ehrman is enjoying swimming himself in a pool of denying. He feels too good to deny and to present all possibilities and potholes to make his argument valid.. Is like a drug to him.

@Caratacus where?

@Caratacus That’s BS

@Caratacus I think he means Jesus is presented as a divine being in the first 3 gospels. However he is not presented literally as god rather more of an //equal// to god or like an archangel sort of thing?

@Caratacus that’s no the issue, the question is did Jesus himself claim his own divinity, Bart thinks not.

That is indeed written - though Jesus also identified Himself as the prophesied Messiah and only begotten Son of GOD sent to save us.

@@johnbee1069 Nope. David is also another begotten son. 'I will announce the decree of the LORD: He said to Me (David), 'You are My Son, ... the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee." The psalmist, David (Acts 4:25),

@@zedmelor8842 That decree was not about David, but rather, the Christ who would come to earth to be anointed by GOD in baptism

@@smalltimer4370 Israel was also a begotten son of God long before David and Jesus. Exodus A-V {4:22} And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD, Israel[is] my son, [even] my firstborn:

@@zedmelor8842 Ex 4.22 was yet another prophecy relating to the coming of Christ through Israel on earth see; Hosea 11:1 In addition to this, the words 'only begotten', do not appear anywhere in that reference

Interestingly, θεου at the end is a genitive; so it might be translated ‘with God’ or ‘of God’.

@@davethebrahman9870 And that's why he became muslim the legend says...

Very bad choice, you should come back to God! I’m a Unitarian Christian. Muhammad was a false prophet there’s a lot of proof out there

He left good religion ☯️ and join organization? 🤦🏿‍♀️

@@davethebrahman9870 lmao, so the translation would be "... Spent the night praying of God" How does this even make sense?

We believe in Jesus as the messiah and a great prophet may peace be upon him ❤️

Can you show us the Injil given to Isa Almasih when Isa was still infant? Where is the Injil now? What is the context of the Injil? I am doubt the teaching of Quran is historically correct. As Bart Erhman said, he does not want to waste his valuable life by scrutinizing Quran. Quran is ahistorical, cannot be verified, fabricated.

@@warakahbinnauval1016 The Injil is already lost and you cannot find the original because it was only sent to a particular group of people for a period of time but the story was revealed to Prophet Muhammad ﷺ in the Qur'an and this is the Last and Final testament protected by God and it will remain pure uncorrupted until the end of time. Easà (Jesus) pbuh of course was a man now the story was mentioned in the Qur'an to let us know what really happened to him and to his mother from the wrong accusations made by some group of people telling that Maryam was a prostitute and calling Jesus pbuh a bastard a udho billa may Allah protect them as Muslim we love them and respect them. I invite you to study the Qur'an and make your own investigation about it ask questions from the true scholars of Islam and i promise you that this is the truth. I am a former Catholic embraced Islam 13 years ago.

ARE YOU IDIOT, WHY DO I HAVE TO ASK A MUSLIM SCHOLAR ABOUT THIS? I CAN LEARN IT BY MY SELF. WE CAN OPEN QURAN BY MYSELF. THIS IS AN INTERNET ERA! NOW, READ QS MARYAM 29-30. READ! READ CAREFULLY! THE “KITAB” (INJIL) WAS GIVEN TO THE BABY. THE KITAB (BOOK) WAS GIVEN TO THE BABY.! READ IT AGAIN. THE BOOK (KITAB) WAS GIVEN TO THE SPEAKING BABY. NOW, WHERE IS THE BOOK (INJIL)? DO YOU BELIEVE A BABY WAS GIVEN A BOOK (INJIL)? YOU WERE A CATHOLIC? STUPID CATHOLIC YES.

JESUS IS NOT ISA ALMASIH IN QURAN. ISA ALMASIH IS NOT JESUS CHRIST IN INJIL. THEY ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. DIFFERENT PERSONS. DONT MAKE PEOPLE STUPID!

Has any prophet rises a dead body ????????????

Gary Watkins he said father raised me

Gary Watkins God raised Him up again (Rom. 4:24; 6:4 [through the glory of the Father]); 10:9; 1 Cor. 6:14; Gal. 1:1; Col. 2:12).

Gary Watkins how they are one 1+1+1=1?

Gary Watkins believing GOD created the faith but its the reality also and yeah is more powerful but he gives us brain to determine not all the things but what is wrong what is truth brother you know i believe in quran more then hadith why because hadith can be changed research you know what jesus lead me to islam ask yourself think about it is he really son of god or he is prophet seems like he is prophet he got many similiraties with prophets take the example of prophet jonah ................................................. Bible verses including the word or topic of Jonah. Biblical Verses related to John The Baptist. Josh 19:13 Then passed eastward to Gath-hepher [Jonah’s birthplace] and to Eth-kazin, and went on to Rimmon bending toward Neah. 2 Kgs 14:25 He restored the coast of Israel from the entering of Hamath unto the sea of the plain, according to the word of the LORD God of Israel, which he spake by the hand of his servant Jonah, the son of Amittai, the prophet, which was of Gathhepher. Jnh 1:1 Now the word of the LORD came unto Jonah the son of Amittai, saying, Jnh 1:3 But Jonah rose up to flee unto Tarshish from the presence of the LORD, and went down to Joppa; and he found a ship going to Tarshish: so he paid the fare thereof, and went down into it, to go with them unto Tarshish from the presence of the LORD. Jnh 1:5 Then the mariners were afraid, and cried every man unto his god, and cast forth the wares that were in the ship into the sea, to lighten it of them. But Jonah was gone down into the sides of the ship; and he lay, and was fast asleep. Jnh 1:7 And they said every one to his fellow, Come, and let us cast lots, that we may know for whose cause this evil is upon us. So they cast lots, and the lot fell upon Jonah. Jnh 1:12 And [Jonah] said to them, Take me up and cast me into the sea; so shall the sea become calm for you, for I know that it is because of me that this great tempest has come upon you. Jnh 1:15 So they took up Jonah, and cast him forth into the sea: and the sea ceased from her raging. Jnh 1:17 Now the LORD had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights. Jnh 2:1 Then Jonah prayed unto the LORD his God out of the fish’s belly, Jnh 2:10 And the LORD spake unto the fish, and it vomited out Jonah upon the dry land. Jnh 3:1 And the word of the LORD came unto Jonah the second time, saying, Jnh 3:3 So Jonah arose, and went unto Nineveh, according to the word of the LORD. Now Nineveh was an exceeding great city of three days’ journey. Jnh 3:4 And Jonah began to enter into the city a day’s journey, and he cried, and said, Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown. Jnh 3:6 For word came to the king of Nineveh [of all that had happened to Jonah, and his terrifying message from God], and he arose from his throne and he laid his robe aside, covered himself with sackcloth, and sat in ashes. Jnh 4:1 But it displeased Jonah exceedingly, and he was very angry. Jnh 4:4 And the LORD said unto Jonah, “Art thou so angry?” Jnh 4:5 So Jonah went out of the city, and sat on the east side of the city, and there made him a booth, and sat under it in the shadow, till he might see what would become of the city. Jnh 4:6 And the LORD God prepared a gourd, and made it to come up over Jonah, that it might be a shadow over his head, to deliver him from his grief. So Jonah was exceeding glad of the gourd. Jnh 4:8 And it came to pass, when the sun did arise, that God prepared a vehement east wind; and the sun beat upon the head of Jonah, that he fainted, and wished in himself to die, and said, It is better for me to die than to live. Jnh 4:9 And God said to Jonah, Doest thou well to be angry for the gourd? And he said, I do well to be angry, even unto death. Matt 12:39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given it but the sign of Jonah the prophet: Matt 12:40 for as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the whale; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. Matt 12:41 The men of Nineveh shall stand up in the judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: for they repented at the preaching of Jonah; and behold, a greater than Jonah is here. Matt 16:4 An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given unto it, but the sign of Jonah. And he left them, and departed. Matt 16:17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-jonah: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father who is in heaven. Luk 11:29 And when the multitudes were gathering together unto him, he began to say, This generation is an evil generation: it seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it but the sign of Jonah. Luk 11:30 For even as Jonah became a sign unto the Ninevites, so shall also the Son of man be to this generation. Luk 11:32 The men of Nineveh shall stand up in the judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: for they repented at the preaching of Jonah; and behold, a greater than Jonah is here. John 1:42 He brought him to Jesus. Jesus looked at him, and said, “You are Simon the son of Jonah. You shall be called Cephas” (which is by interpretation, Peter). John 1:43 and he brought him to Jesus. Jesus looking on him, said: You are Simon, the son of Jonah; you shall be called Cephas (which, when translated, is Rock). ANDERSON John 21:15 So when they had eaten their breakfast, Jesus said to Simon Peter, “Simon, son of Jonah, do you love me more than these?” He said to him, “Yes, Lord; you know that I have affection for you.” He said to him, “Feed my lambs.” John 21:16

1 -who is the One whose able to FORGIVE SINS ? absolutely sure you will say "GOD" Here arises a question if Jesus the Forgiver of Sins then what you will say about THE LORD JESUS ? Who is JESUS CHRIST ( ? ) Matthew 9:6 Luke 7:48 Mark 2:10 Luke 5:24 Mark 2:5 Luke 5:20 Luke 7:48 Luke 23:43 ------------------------------- 2 - who is the One whose able to Bring us into the paradise ? absolutely sure you will say "GOD" Here arises a question if Jesus is able to bring us into paradise then what you will say about THE LORD JESUS ? Who is JESUS CHRIST ( ? ) Jesus answered him, "Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise." ( Luke 23:43 ) -------------------------------- 3 - who is the One whose Greater Than the temple ? absolutely sure THE GOD is Greater Than the temple . Here arises a question if Jesus is Greater than the temple then what you will say about THE LORD JESUS ? Who is JESUS CHRIST ( ? ) But I say unto you, That in this place is one greater than the temple. Matthew 12:6 -------------------------------- 4 - who is the One whose able to give eternal life ? absolutely sure you will say "GOD" Here arises a question if Jesus is able to give us eternal life then what you will say about THE LORD JESUS ? Who is JESUS CHRIST ( ? ) YES it's ME JESUS WHO gives not only life but eternal life John 10:28 Revelation 2:10 --------------------------------- 5 - who is the One whose have All power in the Heaven and in the Earth ? absolutely sure you will say "GOD" Here arises a question if Jesus have All power in heaven and in earth then what you will say about THE LORD JESUS ? Who is JESUS CHRIST ( ? ) And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Matthew 28:18 Revelation 1:5 Revelation 17:14 -------------------------------- 6 - Who is the One whose capable to know our hearts and minds ? absolutely sure you will say "GOD" Here arises a question if Jesus knows our hearts and minds then what you will say about THE LORD JESUS ? Who is JESUS CHRIST ( ? ) I am he who searches hearts and minds, and I will repay each of you according to your deeds. Revelation 2:23 Matthew 9:4 I know thy works Revelation 3:8 Revelation 3:15 Matthew 24:25 Matthew 9:21:22 Luke 5:22 Luke 6:8 Luke 7:39-40 Luke 9:47 Luke 11:17 John 6:6 Acts 1:24. John 2:24-25 Jeremiah 17:10 ---------------------------------- 7 - Who is the One whose able to Judge the mankind ? absolutely sure you will say "GOD" Here arises a question if Jesus is JUDGE of mankind then what you will say about THE LORD JESUS ? Who is JESUS CHRIST ( ? ) All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. Matthew 25:31-34 John 5:22 John 5:27 Revelation 22:12 Volume 4, Book 55, Number 657: Volume 4, Book 55, Number 658: Sahih Bukhari Volume 3, Book 34, Number 425: Sahih Bukhari Volume 3, Book 43, Number 656: . ---------------------------------- 8- Who is the One whose able to give POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT ? absolutely sure you will say "GOD" Here arises a question if Jesus is able to give POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT then what you will say about THE LORD JESUS ? Who is JESUS CHRIST ( ? ) THE LORD JESUS "breathed" on them and said, "Receive the Holy Spirit. John 20:22 Luke 21:15 ----------------------------------- 9- Who is the One whose able to give the reward each person according to what they have done ? absolutely sure you will say "GOD" Here arises a question if Jesus is able to give the reward each person according to what they have done then what you will say about THE LORD JESUS ? Who is JESUS CHRIST ( ? ) Look, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to each person according to what they have done. Revelation 22:12 Matthew 25:31-45 Jeremiah 17:10 ----------------------------------- 10- Who is the One whose capable to listening our prayers ? absolutely sure you will say "GOD" Here arises a question if Jesus is listening our prayers then what you will say about THE LORD JESUS ? Who is JESUS CHRIST ( ? ) YOU MAY ASK ME. FOR ANYTHING IN MY NAME, AND I WILL DO IT . John 14:14 ---------------------------------- 11- Who is the One whose able to destroy both soul and body in hell ? absolutely sure you will say "GOD" Here arises a question if Jesus have authority to destroy both soul and body in hell then what you will say about THE LORD JESUS ? Who is JESUS CHRIST ( ? ) O JESUS don't send us into hell we know you have the keys of hell and of death. Luke 8:31 Matthew 10:28 ‎Revelation 1:18 -------------------------------- 12 - Who is the One whose created All things ? absolutely sure you will say "GOD" Here arises a question if All things created by Jesus then what you will say about THE LORD JESUS ? Who is JESUS CHRIST ( ? ) All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. John 1:3 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands: Hebrews 1:10 Matthew 13:37-43 Hebrews 1:2 no need JESUS to say : " I am God," because he already is. If you don't believe Just read and Look His "WORK ,"

To me is perfectly logical and balanced. I say that as a human being to.

Very easy, look at the water it can be in 3 states; solid as ice, liquid as tap water or gazified state as vapour and in all of these 3 statuses water does not become some other substance it is allways water even if it has 3 different personalities in the same nature, so why God cannot be similar or bigger than his own creation.

and we should believe muhamad?

@@amithatbadtoyou178 . You should believe in God himself. The God of Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and Mohammad and all the prophets peace be upon them all. That’s what prophet Mohammad preach: to worship the only true God.

@Delon Duvenage who told you he died?😆

@Delon Duvenage Did those two thieves crucified along Jesus also become gods? From your above statement it seems that just because Jesus died on a cross , he became god. What if Jesus had died of natural causes? What if he was stabbed to death in an ally? Would Jesus NOT have become god then?

@@chandyller6773 it says in the Qur'an , he died, you stop being brainwashed by your ummah lol

@Delon Duvenage imagine a god crying for help? To whom is he asking for help?

@Delon Duvenage imagine your jesus God crying asking for help ??? To whom is he asking for help?

@Melanin Warrior explain how God is born? If your is comes to this world like any other human being he is not the creator.. He was created. You say he created himself through the means of which ordinary human beings go through. We call God self sustaining yet he ate food. That's not self sustaining. He prayed. To who? Himself? And again there is not a single verse in the Bible Jesus ever ever call himself the Creator of all things. Conversely he said "the father is greater than I". Don't spin the words to make them fit. The trinity didn't exist until centuries after the departure of the Messiah yet you claim a triune God.. There are over 5000 different versions of the New Testament so please use all of them to prove that Jesus claimed godship.

@@dronestar1118 So where were those middle eastern gods when homo sapiens still lived with Neanderthals, denisovans and possibly other undiscovered hominid species hundreds of thousands of years ago way before any middle eastern civilizations started to exist? It's so bloody obvious on who created who if you understand the reality that's explainable with all kind of science.

If god created the world... Well he would have 😃

O G the Hebrews that wrote the OT didn’t believe In the devil or hell. Those were later ideas, as a result of Hellenism.

I prayed on this matter because I know what the 10 commandments say. My prayer led me to Matthew where he asked his disciples who do you say I am ? He recieved many answers ,but it was Peter who gave him the correct answer. Matthew 16 : 15-20

_"You are not far from the Kingdom of God"_ - Mark 12.34

Satanic verses or gharaniq says Muhammad associates Allah with Al latta, uza and manat.😂

"And of the people is he who disputes about Allah without knowledge and follows every rebellious devil." Quran, Al-hajj: 3

@@muhammadfuadikhwansyah8196satanic verses/ gharaniq says muhammad was busted by Muslim, because muhammad bow down to pagan idols with idols worshiper at kakbah😂 and the until now muhammadan/ abdol still kissing black stone.

"...they will mislead you from the way of Allah . They follow not except assumption, and they are not but falsifying." Al-an'am: 116

@@muhammadfuadikhwansyah8196 Satanic verses or gharaniq says Muhammad associates Allah with Al latta, uza and manat.😂

Jesus is God. It doesn't matter what the people thought of Him. It matters what God's Word said about Him. John 10:32-36 King James Version 32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? 33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. John 8:58 “Jesus answered them: 'I solemnly declare it: before Abraham came to be, I AM.” [This was the name God gave himself when he first communicated with Moses, Exodus 3:14 “God replied, 'I am who am. ' Then he added, 'This is what you shall tell the Israelites: I AM sent me to you." Isaiah 44:6 6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. John 8:24 24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins. John 10:33 33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. John 1:1-3 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. Isaiah 7:14 14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. 1 John 5:20 20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life. Acts 20:28 28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. John 1:18 18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. 1 Corinthians 8:6 KJV But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him. Hebrews 1:8 KJV But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. Matthew 1:23 KJV Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. Revelation 1:8 KJV I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. Isaiah 44:6 KJV Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God John 8:24 KJV I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins. Acts 20:28 KJV Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. 1 Timothy 3:16 KJV And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the

@Kevin 255 May the grace of Elohim be upon you.

John 16:12-14... " I have yet many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth , is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak : and shall he shall show you things to come. He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall show it unto you." 1 Corinthians 2:14. " But the natural man recieveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned." If you want to know the truth repent and be born again so you can receive the Spirit of truth... Jesus was never a prophet... Jesus is God in the flesh, an amalgamation of deity with humanity...

@@nikkishears6402 If the scribe referred to as, "Mark" speaks true, Jesus would argue with you. Mark 10:18 And Jesus said to him, "Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone."

@@chadnietzscheback5636 , no dear. Jesus would say he's God. That's why the Jews killed him, for claiming to be God. You lack understanding, probably because you've never actually read the Bible. Let’s have an in depth look at what Jesus said in this passage. He only said two statements: 1. Why do you call me good? 2. No one is good except God The only piece of information that Jesus gave is this: No one is good but God. There are 2 ways to understand his statement: 1. Only God is good. 2. I am not good. 3. Therefore, I am not God. or 1. Only God is good. 2. I am good. 3. Therefore, I am God. In this specific instance, from these words alone, Jesus does make known to us which of these he meant. It is both ignorant and presumptive of anyone to use this passage, alone, to argue for Jesus’ non-deity. Why should the first reading be the desirable one over the second reading? Jesus’ statement that only God is good does not, itself, tell us whether he was affirming or denying being God. But if we keep reading, we find that Jesus sheds some light on what he meant. Jesus answers the man’s original question about obtaining eternal life with this: “You know the commandments: ‘You shall not murder, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not steal, you shall not give false testimony, you shall not defraud, honor your father and mother.'” The man responds :”Teacher, I have kept all of these since I was a boy.” Then Jesus finishes with: “One thing you lack. Go, sell everything you have then come, follow me.” To summarize: In response to the man’s question, “What must I do to gain eternal life?”, Jesus responds by telling him to follow the commandments. But which commandments does Jesus list? Notice that Jesus only lists the commandments that dealt with civil affairs. The Ten Commandments of Moses were divided into 2 parts: Laws on dealing with God and Laws on dealing with others. Respectively, these were the moral and civil laws. Jesus names the civil law for the young man and the young man responds like any good Jew would, “These I have kept since I was young.” The man was doing great on keeping the civil law, but not so much with the moral law. Instead of then quoting the first four commandments to the young man-the commandments that dealt with man’s relationship with God- Jesus told the young man, “Sell your possessions and follow me.” In other words, “Your god is your money. Get rid of that and follow me.” Jesus is equating obeying the moral law with following himself. The manner in which men can obtain eternal life is by getting rid of the false gods in their lives and following Jesus-replacing them with him! This claim is monumental! And it gives us an answer to our initial dilemma. Did Jesus deny or affirm his deity in asking, “Why do you call me good?” I think the answer is clear in light of the rest of that conversation with the young man. Jesus equated following himself with keeping the moral law and obeying the commandments that governed man’s relationship with God. Thus, in bringing up this passage as ammunition for a non-divine Jesus, the critic shoots himself in the foot by bringing to the table a text in which Jesus clearly claims deity.

Everything Jesus did, was due to His own GOD and Father - of this, Jesus was very adamant Even His words were not His, let alone His actions...

@@SmalltimR What does John 1:1-14 mean to you?

@@leef_me8112 _In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was in the beginning with God. 3All things were made through him. Without him was not anything made that has been made. 4In him was life, and the life was the light of men. 5The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness hasn't overcome it._ _6There came a man, sent from God, whose name was John. 7He came as a witness, that he might testify about the light, that all might believe through him. 8He was not the light, but was sent that he might testify about the light._ _9The true light that enlightens everyone was coming into the world. 10He was in the world, and the world was made through him, and the world didn't recognize him. 11He came to his own, and those who were his own didn't receive him. 12But as many as received him, to them he gave the right to become God's children, to those who believe in his name: 13who were born not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God._ _14The Word became flesh, and lived among us. We saw his glory, such glory as of the one and only Son of the Father, full of grace and truth. 15John testified about him. He cried out, saying, "This was he of whom I said, 'He who comes after me has surpassed me, for he was before me.'" 16From his fullness we all received grace upon grace. 17For the law was given through Moses. Grace and truth were realized through Jesus Christ. 18No one has seen God at any time. The one and only Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, he has declared him._ - John 1.1-18 And in contrast with; _4For the word of Yahweh is right. All his work is done in faithfulness. 5He loves righteousness and justice. The earth is full of the loving kindness of Yahweh. 6By Yahweh's word, the heavens were made; all their army by the breath of his mouth. 7He gathers the waters of the sea together as a heap. He lays up the deeps in storehouses. 8Let all the earth fear Yahweh. Let all the inhabitants of the world stand in awe of him. 9For he spoke, and it was done. He commanded, and it stood firm._ - Psalm 33.4-9 With that being said, the word of GOD, in verse 1 through 5, is the personification of GOD's will made manifest through the Son - GOD's word(literal) which is identified as coming from and being spoken by GOD(YHWH) - is attributed as the causal agent by which all things were made. This same word, would also be identified as GOD Himself, as a result of its works - the work(as creation) representing GOD Himself. Further resolution to this is found in verses 10 through 12, as the world is identified as being made through Him(the Word), and who would not recognize Him - setting a contrast between the worlds origin and the nature of corruption and sin, leading to a division between the world and the Word, by which it was made. Following this, the account goes-on to identify the same Word(living commandment) becoming flesh and living among us, and who would be glorified as the only begotten Son of the Father and who declared GOD to the world as the only begotten Son. Having said all that, and what stands out to me in this particular account, is just how many times the words 'only begotten Son' comes-up in the Greek text, thus outlining the nature of the relationship between the source(GOD the Father), and the Son(in subjection to said source).

. Matthew 28:18 - And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

Did they? Is there an interview or some other text I can read?

I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that *I am he* , ye shall die in your sins. (John 8,24)

@@fsdfmsbcxx doesn't MEAN anything., "BELIEVE THAT IM HE" who a MASSANGER,A GOD OR THE SON OF GOD?DO U SEE "if u don't believe that I GOD than U shall dia in UR SINS"? MORE LIKE A MASSANGER THAN A GOD.

@@thatscute8035 Oh, it means A LOT. There's only one in the Old Testament who called himself "I AM", and that's God. And the Jews understood very well what Jesus meant when he said: "Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, *I am* . (John 8,58 / KJV)

@@fsdfmsbcxx REALLY, how do u know that HE MEANT that he was A MASSANGER, rather than A God? He could've meant that I AM A MASSANGER. And the verse that u pulled on ME to prove me wrong it actually proves ME RIGHT than it dose U😂 "Verily, verily,I say unto U, before Abraham was, I am? Abraham was a prophet RIGHT, So why would he say that before Abraham WAS I AM?make sense RIGHT. MORE LIKE A MASSANGER THAN A GOD.

@AllGTG love UR ANSWERS 👌, and I will answer them to U But first U need to tell me HOW many Bibles are there.? Which one is authentic? Which one are U supporting.? How many people wrote the Bible?. Can u trust them?. Do u know them?. And why did ur god didn't stop those who where trying to kill him, while he saved other Prophets from people who wanted to kill them (I can give U examples if U want to) And do U think THE Bible has been changed overtime.? And if yes than why didn't ur god stopped them?

Matthew 28:18 - And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

@@IAMNOTIAMNOTIAMNOT So you agree with me. :)

@Ryker Marcelo be quiet scammer.

@Ryker Marcelo Hey Ryker, seeing as you posted here I wondered do you know Jesus?

@@blindcuckoo6680 💪🏼

Ten Ton Nuke It is pretty silly for two men to be sitting down talking about something that may or may have happened thousands and thousands of years ago. In actual fact who cares one way or the other? It doesn´t alter my life one bit whether there even is some sort of God or not.

@@timward3142 Hi of course we can go about our daily lives as if there is no God. However, when we die, if there is a God it will matter, a lot. Jesus' death is as important today as it was 2000 years ago, not because its a nice story, but because it is a historical fact that he lived and was crucified and is attested not just by Christian writers at the time and shortly after, but also Jewish and Roman writers who had nothing to gain from this. If you don't want to look into that, ask yourself how the big bang happened, what caused it, where the energy came from; where our moral law comes from if we are just here by chance, oh and how life came to be. I can highly recommend a book "I Don't Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist" if you want to challenge these things.

If u was God in human form would u ever ever ever sin? i mean atleast One sin?..which is humanly impossible to do..well, who is the only Person to never sin, Jesus duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

@@freddytorres4573 a child or a baby never do a sin.. but acording to christians believe every baby born with sins.. and if they die before baptized they will go to hell.. a sinless baby go to hell?? the one who said this just said God is unjust to all the baby who die whatever the cause..

Raising the dead wasn't mentioned as one of the signs of being God

they are ignorant of the judgment coming upon them. Worshiping Jesus is "idolatry", people will perish if they don't repent. The Bible condemns Idolatry. Revelation 22: 15 "Outside are the dogs, ( gentiles) the sorcerers, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices falsehood." If Jesus was the resurrection why he didn't resurrect himself? Acts 5: 30

2 kings 13:21 And it came to pass, as they were burying a man, that, behold, they spied a band of men; and they cast the man into the sepulcher of Elisha: and when the man was let down, and touched the bones of Elisha, he revived, and stood up on his feet.

all Christians shattered when a well knowledgeable person sit at front of them

Yes, because everyone knows that an argument's legitimacy is based on how confidently it was delivered.

@@rajababy2009 perfectly said!!!

QURAN VERSE Ayah al-baqarah 2;210 Are these people waiting, perchance, for God to reveal Himself unto them in the shadows of the clouds, together with the angels - although [by then] all will have been decided, and unto God all things will have been brought back.... [GOD COMES IN THE CLOUDS] BIBLE Again the high priest asked him, “Are you the Messiah, the Son of the Blessed One?” 62 “I am,” said Jesus. “And you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven.” 63 The high priest tore his clothes. “Why do we need any more witnesses?” he asked. 64 “You have heard the blasphemy. What do you think?” They all condemned him as worthy of death. CLEARLY HE CLAIMED TO BE GOD AND WAS CRUCIFIED BECAUSE OF IT AND HE RESURRECTED AS A STAMP OF APPROVAL FROM GOD THAT HE IS WHO HE CLAIMED TO BE IF HE WAS NOT GOD HE WOULD HAVE NOT RISEN FROM THE DEAD

Bro that is the quran which is a false book. Try again

@@uriarteunited3105 have u ever read it pro. Or repeating what others are telling you 😉

@@uriarteunited3105 looks like it bro! Narrated by Ibn Abbas. Mhd took the sentence what was uttered by his scribe Abdullah bin al-Sarh, thus caused him(Abdullah) to leave islam because he realised it that Mhd was false prophet. The story of 7 sleepers of Ephesus was written by a Siriac Christian priest few decades before Mohd was born. Mhd copy it into quran, but mhd FORGOT the details, whether it was 3 or 4, OR, 5 or 6, OR or 7 with their dog. Sura 18:22 ~~~ Story of Miraj was from zoroastrian legends. ~~~ Prayer (salat) five times daily and using Sun's movement to specify timings were from Zoroastrianism. ~~ Solomon talking to ants: Jew's children bed time stories. Also pre-existed before islam ~~ Jesus says : I am the Truth I am the Resurection I am the Beginning & the End 700 yrs later, Mhd copied what Jesus said & claimed them to be the names of Allah, in order to prove Allah is God,.. Muslims ask "prove us where Jesus said I am God worship Me"- not realising here quran tells you, Jesus is allah ~~~ the Infancy Gospel of Thomas is considered unauthentic and heretical. However, its story of Jesus giving life to clay birds went into to quran. ~~~ The verse abt Moon splitting, copied from poems written by a poet, Imru’ al-Qays who lived before mohd was born. Quran 54: 1,29,31,46 ~~~ Ramadhan Fasting came from the Sabians (Harranians- moon worshippers and Mandaeans- polytheists ) who practiced Ramadhan Fasting before Mohd was born and since 600 b.c. According to 10th-century historian Ibn al-Nadim, the Harranians called the feast ”al-Feter” الفطر, the same name by which the feast of Islamic Ramadan is called, عيد الفطر ”Feast of al-Feter”. The Harranians consider their Moon god is greater than the counter-part polytheist gods. Greater = Akbar. Our god is greater ! Co-incidence (?) ~~~~ Surah 18:83-102 Journey of Dhu l'Qarnayin was copied from a Syriac Legend abt Alexander the Great.

@@uriarteunited3105 they never understand unless you prove Jesus is God from their book that they copied

lol How so?

correct because Peter Williams could not able to produce facts to support his arguments and any way jesus never claim he was son of god

​@@rahmanrais8708 Wrong. Jesus says that He is the Son of God: >>> ***John 6:32-40 Then Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, Moses did not give you the bread from heaven, but My Father gives you the true bread from heaven. For the bread of God is He who comes down from heaven and gives life to the world.” Then they said to Him, “Lord, give us this bread always.” And Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life. He who comes to Me shall never hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst. But I said to you that you have seen Me and yet do not believe. All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out. For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me. This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day. And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.” >>> ***John 2:13-17 13 Now the Passover of the Jews was at hand, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem. And He found in the temple those who sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the money changers doing business. When He had made a whip of cords, He drove them all out of the temple, with the sheep and the oxen, and poured out the changers’ money and overturned the tables. And He said to those who sold doves, “Take these things away! Do not make My Father’s house a house of merchandise!” Then His disciples remembered that it was written, “Zeal for Your house has eaten Me up.” >>> ***Matthew 18:10 “Take heed that you do not despise one of these little ones, for I say to you that in heaven their angels always see the face of My Father who is in heaven." >>> ***Matthew 18:19 “Again I say to you that if two of you agree on earth concerning anything that they ask, it will be done for them by My Father in heaven." >>> ***Matthew 18:35 “So My heavenly Father also will do to you if each of you, from his heart, does not forgive his brother his trespasses.” >>> ***Matthew 24:36 “But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only." >>> ***Mark 8:37-38 "Or what will a man give in exchange for his soul? For whoever is ashamed of Me and My words in this adulterous and sinful generation, of him the Son of Man also will be ashamed when He comes in the glory of His Father with the holy angels.” >>> ***Luke 10:21-22 In that hour Jesus rejoiced in the Spirit and said, “I thank You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and prudent and revealed them to babes. Even so, Father, for so it seemed good in Your sight. All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows who the Son is except the Father, and who the Father is except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him.” >>> ***Luke 22:41-43 And He was withdrawn from them about a stone’s throw, and He knelt down and prayed, saying, “Father, if it is Your will, take this cup away from Me; nevertheless not My will, but Yours, be done.” Then an angel appeared to Him from heaven, strengthening Him. >>> ***Luke 23:45-47 Then the sun was darkened, and the veil of the temple was torn in two. And when Jesus had cried out with a loud voice, He said, “Father, ‘into Your hands I commit My spirit.’ ” Having said this, He breathed His last. >>> ***Matthew 16: When Jesus came into the region of Caesarea Philippi, He asked His disciples, saying, “Who do men say that I, the Son of Man, am?” So they said, “Some say John the Baptist, some Elijah, and others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.” He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?” Simon Peter answered and said, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” Jesus answered and said to him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven. And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it. And I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.” >>> ***Matthew 15:13 But He answered and said, “Every plant which My heavenly Father has not planted will be uprooted. >>> ***Matthew 12:49-50 And He stretched out His hand toward His disciples and said, “Here are My mother and My brothers! For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My brother and sister and mother.” >>> ***Matthew 11:25-27 At that time Jesus answered and said, “I thank You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and prudent and have revealed them to babes. Even so, Father, for so it seemed good in Your sight. All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him." >>> ***Matthew 10:32-33 “Therefore whoever confesses Me before men, him I will also confess before My Father who is in heaven. But whoever denies Me before men, him I will also deny before My Father who is in heaven. >>> ***Matthew 7:20-22 21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven." >>> ***John 8:53-56 Are You greater than our father Abraham, who is dead? And the prophets are dead. Who do You make Yourself out to be?” Jesus answered, “If I honor Myself, My honor is nothing. It is My Father who honors Me, of whom you say that He is your God. Yet you have not known Him, but I know Him. And if I say, ‘I do not know Him,’ I shall be a liar like you; but I do know Him and keep His word. Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad.” >>> ***Matthew 28:16-20 Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, to the mountain which Jesus had appointed for them. When they saw Him, they worshiped Him; but some doubted. And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen. >>> ***Matthew 22:41-45 While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them, 42 saying, “What do you think about the Christ? Whose Son is He?” They said to Him, “The Son of David.” He said to them, “How then does David in the Spirit call Him ‘Lord,’ saying: ‘The Lord said to my Lord, “Sit at My right hand, Till I make Your enemies Your footstool” ’? If David then calls Him ‘Lord,’ how is He his Son?” >>> ***Mark 14:61 But He kept silent and answered nothing. Again the high priest asked Him, saying to Him, “Are You the Christ, the Son of the Blessed?” Jesus said, “I am. And you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Power, and coming with the clouds of heaven.” >>> _________________________________________________ >>> Jesus says that He is God: >>> ​***John 8:57-58 Then the Jews said to Him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham?” Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.” >>> ***John 6:45-47 "It is written in the prophets, ‘And they shall all be taught by God.’ Therefore everyone who has heard and learned from the Father comes to Me. Not that anyone has seen the Father, except He who is from God; He has seen the Father. Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me has everlasting life." >>> ***John 14:8-9 Philip said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is sufficient for us.” Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father." >>> ***John 20:26-29 And after eight days His disciples were again inside, and Thomas with them. Jesus came, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, “Peace to you!” Then He said to Thomas, “Reach your finger here, and look at My hands; and reach your hand here, and put it into My side. Do not be unbelieving, but believing.” And Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!” Jesus said to him, “Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.” >>> ***Revelation 21:5 Then He who sat on the throne said, “Behold, I make all things new.” And He said to me, “Write, for these words are true and faithful.” And He said to me, “It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. I will give of the fountain of the water of life freely to him who thirsts. He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son. >>> ***Genesis 32:28 And He said, “Your name shall no longer be called Jacob, but Israel; for you have struggled with God and with men, and have prevailed.” >>> ***Zechariah 12:10 “And I will pour on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem the Spirit of grace and supplication; then they will look on Me whom they pierced. Yes, they will mourn for Him as one mourns for his only son, and grieve for Him as one grieves for a firstborn.

He's a moron who lost uhh uhhh

@@rahmanrais8708 then why was he crucified

Isaiah 9:6, John 8:58, Revalation 1:8

Good brother....if you read.the new international bible.the gospel of John chapter 1:8,,,hear Jesus himself says God....even though Muhammad don't what will happen. But Jesus know exactly who he is...it's the wonderful statements John 8:58 before Abraham was I'm...

@@ShivaKumar-jk8kj and adam before abraham too is that make him god

@@wowhub4655 no bro...Jehovah created Adam in this world only for man..but Jesus Christ only came in this world man..adam died....but Jesus dead than he resurrection...bro....who grater Adam are Jesus

@@ShivaKumar-jk8kj “I am" (John 8:58)? “I am" is translated from Greek word “Egoi Eimi." (Greek). A blind man says, “I am" (Egoi Eimi) (John 9:9). Is He a God? May be you now quote Exodus 3:14 from your stupid 46 deceptive and mistranslated versions. In the Exodus 3:14 it is not “I am." This is “Ehye Asher Ehyeh" (Hebrew). Which means “I will be, what I will be" or “to be what to be." Before Abraham was he? Do you know about Melchizedek? He had no ends and beginning. He had no parents. He was before Abraham. Is he a God? Satan was before Adam. Is he a God. Why Jews thrown stones? Answer in the *Matthew 26:63-66,* because he claimed to be Messiah and son of God. *John **8:59* says, your God ran away after beating. Many people are Sons of God: Jacob is son of God first born (Exodus 4:22). David is begotten son of God (Psalms 2:5-7). Adam is Son of God (Luke 3:38). Are they Gods? It is a matter of Sorrow, prejudice pagan Hindu being brain washed by deceiver Christian missionaries and being converted to bullshit Christianity. And also sell their selves to their money.

That is the deeper philosophical discourse in the Bible, and Greek philosophy, but many don’t understand that. Parmenides held that the multiplicity of existing things, their changing forms and motion, are an appearance of a single eternal reality (“Being”), giving rise to the Parmenidean principle that “all is one.” From this concept of Being, he went on to say that all claims of change or of non-Being are illogical. Parmenides was influential of Plato, Heraclitus, and others who directly informed early Christology. I am not saying that Parmenides was the only argument considered in Christianity, but I am saying all the discourse of the nature of Jesus in early Christianity was a question of ontological philosophy which was all over the ancient world. Eventually one spliced together version became orthodoxy. But the problem with modern people, is they tend not to understand what ontological philosophy was and how it was discussed. Nor what „faith“ was. Faith was a conclusion of a particular ontology particular understanding of „being“.

GOD is beyond our understanding of humility because of the pride made manifest in the world; GOD isnt going to claim to be almighty when HE’s flesh; “GOD is a spirit”- John 4:24; “the body without the spirit is dead” - James 2:26; taking these scriptures into consideration, what good is the body of CHRIST (the promised vessel) without the Holy SPIRIT?

But we are also one with the father which is no different than what he said. How dare you say Jesus was a “lucid dreamer”! That’s horrible!

Read “The Triumph of Christianity” and “How Jesus Became God”. He explains the differing types of divine portrayals of Jesus and other figures in human history.

You have a quote huh, nice. So you have a book you like, and it says something....

@@eengineer1able And you have an empty quip, containing great fury, signifying nothing. Whoop-ti-doo!

Aasif, good quote, and very appropriate on this discussion. Those who cling to literal interpretations are missing everything, just as did the Pharisees in Christ's day. The Modern Pharisees are satisfied with their shallow interpretation and blithely lead their flock over the cliff of oblivion.

@@RodMartinJr Here's the meaning: Christians quote the Bible and are so used to that being a normal thing, that they don't understand the strangeness of the gesture. It's not merely a quote as one might make to add color to a reply (as you just did with Shakespeare), but rather quoted like a proverb, yet even more than that. It's quoted like a proclamation from god. It is the distinct province of a religious person to quote their book in a most profound and meaningful way while failing to notice how little regard they would give to a quote from a different religious book, or failing to conceive how odd it would be to expect non-religious people or those of other religions to give reverence, respect, or regard to it. You see, Rod, the quote doesn't in fact speak for itself like Shakespeare. It is either the musings of a god-man, or it's complete fiction/myth/nonsense. It's a rousing quote for the initiated, but a bizarre pronouncement for all others, producing an experience equivalent to the effect a quote from the book of Mormon would have upon you (i.e. no effect). Empathy and imagination, Rod, are what is needed and what is signified.

@@eengineer1able Yet, I have quoted Buddha and Lao Tzu on numerous occasions, so your thesis is full of holes. You make assumptions for which you have scant evidence. And Shakespeare, his allusions to the Bible are numerous and without knowledge of the source, his statements through his plays don't have nearly the meaning. For a significant percentage of the planet, a Bible quotation does speak for itself. Imagination is a good thing, if it is not blocked by *blind certainty.* Me? I have studied numerous religions, in depth, and have come to understand Buddhist paramitas and how they can apply to Genesis 1 and 2. I have even studied the reviled Scientology and gained my greatest spiritual breakthroughs from it. You see, I always question my own knowledge. Don't get "stuck" in your own. You might miss something.

Actions speak louder than words

@@immanueljijib3878 Jesus did miracles with the permission of God(Heavenly Father) and said so. He also worshipped God (Heavenly Father). There is a belief that Jesus worshipped and prayed to God because he was in human form and body on earth. May we all be guided by God! The truth of the matter is over 90% of the world today believes in and reveres Jesus Christ and follows or tries to follow the law of Deuteronomy and Leviticus and majority of teachings of Jesus Christ, including Muslims!

I and the Father are one. John 10:30 Before Abraham was I AM. John 8:58

@@anthonyhulse1248 John 10:30- Per the verse Jesus uses the "neuter" form of the Greek word for "one" here, right? implying that they are "unity." Rather than saying that Jesus and God are the same person? John 8:58- Per the verse the ‘am’ is not capitalized? And needless to say I would believe that Jesus existed before Abraham, and everything that if Jesus said so - needless to say, I/we are nothing before the glory of Jesus for sure! One thing to think about is that Jesus Christ was charged for claiming to be Messiah(and so the King of the Jews), and not charged for claiming to be God as in Matt 26:63. Had he claimed to be God then he will be the King of all, including the Gentiles, then Pontius Pilate would have tried for treason or something under his law himself and not talked to the Jews about the punishment that should be meted to him! Matthew 26:63 King James Version “63 But Jesus held his peace, And the high priest answered and said unto him, I adjure thee by the living God, that thou tell us whether thou be the Christ, the Son of God.” Matthew 26:64 New King James Version Jesus said to him, “It is as you said. Nevertheless, I say to you, hereafter you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Power, and coming on the clouds of heaven.” Note: I am not sure if these translations are accurate though as my internet has been hacked lately, so knowing this it won’t be good for me to comment on this going forward! There is a different explanation that is supported by better evidence: the Jews picked up stones to kill Jesus because they understood he was claiming to be the Messiah. At Jesus’ trial, the High Priest asked, “I charge you under oath by the living God: Tell us if you are the Christ” (Matt. 26:63). First of all, we should notice that no one at the trial asked Jesus if he were God. However, if they thought he had been claiming to be God, that would have certainly been a question they would have asked but such is never recorded anywhere.

But Jesus never said "I am the just the islamic prophet of Allah. Christians falsely idolize me."

GOD has not GOD above Him

Or Bart's points are so logical and make sense that there isn't much to refute

Or Ehrman has the evidence and can back up what he says, Williams doesn't, and can't.

@@RsZ789Actually, if you read Peter William’s books, he has a great deal of evidence for his position. And Peter’s argument was actually really good, he’s just not as smooth as Bart. And Peter’s point about the systematic presentation of Jesus’ divinity in Mark is correct. Bart is just retreading old critical ideas with little evidence.

You have to realize Bart’s stock and trade is showboating debates… that’s why one sees him to much. That’s not by itself terrible… but his act is polished and you will see he presents the same paradigm and arguments each and every time. It’s harder for a person genuinely open to debate who has to think and respond as he goes… Peter clearly is a bit of a stutterer and that doesn’t help. Both had some good give and take here. Sadly… as seen in the comments, many can’t process any of it and go buy who seemed subjectively more confident. Sadly this is always the case with debating. That’s how the masses decide - it’s all they have the capacity for.

​@@dataciphernice coping strategy.

The statement is about precedence, not identity. And "I AM" is not even a proper translation. Typical "grasping at straws" apologetics.

@@gerardjayetileke4373​ I shall take the evidence of my lying eyes over your opinion. Blessings.

Verily verily I don,t think that Jesus used Shakespearean phrases.

​@@jackfletcher1000 It was amen, amen. Blessings.

@@jamessheffield4173 how do they not get the statement?

Bart Ehrman is no Christian

@@SmalltimR Because someone changed the Bible that makes him no longer a Christian?

​@@efootballmania He is a well known and self-proclaimed apostate of Christ. That being said and while his arguments are not all wrong, it wouldn't be wise to follow such a man - dance with the devil type thing ...

@@SmalltimR So you're saying the Bible isn't changed ?

Could the reason be for your conclusion that you're biased? I mean I will admit we all have biases but the question is are they logical or not.... having bias doesn't necessarily mean that your argument is invalid it's just a question are you right or are you wrong... cuz you're either right or wrong... and also argument from Authority is fallacious... gravity doesn't stop working for a person just because they're not a physicist. .. so with that said let's get to it. And if we just take mark, then still.. Jesus clearly did claim to be God, in the things he did.. and not only in what he said.... in the gospel of Mark 6:45 it comes about that Jesus walks on the water and in the Old Testament this is something that only God could do...Job 9 verse 8.... this separates him from other miracle workers in Jewish history, Also we can take the entire chapter of Mark 2... in that chapter we have Jesus forgiving sins and no Messianic claimants (in Judaism one could only claim to be Messiah if you Were a son of David the king).. in Jewish history ever claim to forgive sins... and no one having half a brain and knowing what they're saying would ever dare claim to forgive sins, not even on accident. ... in Mark chapter 2 the very same chapter before Jesus heals the palsy there's a person in the crowd who doubts and Jesus answered him and in answering him he Associated himself with the title "son of man" he does this several times in all of the synoptic Gospels and I think and John as well but the title "son of man" was a Messianic title.. taken from Daniel 7:13.. the context of that verses is 9 through 14... and Daniel 13 says this".. "and Jesus said...I am and you shall see the son of man sitting on the right hand of power and coming in the Clouds Of Heaven"... in order to further understand this you need to know that there's precedent for this in the Old Testament so in the Old Testament God rides the clouds Deuteronomy 33 chapter 26, Psalm 68 verse 4, Isaiah 19 verse 1.... and at first if you read these Old Testament passages that I provided then it makes Daniel chapter 7 passage a head-scratcher which leads to the implication of Jesus quoting it while he was in court and explains why the high priest tore his robes and reacted the way he did. Nextpoint the interpretation of the title "son of man" might be taken literally as "just a mortal man" I'm not saying , at first glance, the Temptation is not there to interpret it that way, but if we look at the high priests reaction to Jesus saying what he says in Mark 14:62 ..in the next verse ,then we will clearly see that their interpretation of what the title "Son Of Man" Meant is different from our interpretation which lets us know that we're putting our cultural context on to the text while not realizing that the Bible comes to us from cultures that thought extremely differently from us. Jesus is the only Messianic claimant who fulfilled Isaiah 53... he was also born in Bethlehem of Judea just like the Old Testament scripture said he would be... the verse that I'm referring to is Micah 5 chapter 2... and if you continue to read that verse then you will clearly see further implication there, as in this verse was meant for where the Messiah would be born, and if you continue to read the verse then you will see that only God can fill the role of Messiah. At the end of The Book of Malachi it was said that someone coming in the power of Elijah (another Old Testament prophet) and was going to come before the Messiah did, getting people ready for his coming into the world..... another verse in the Old Testament in Isaiah the verse is 40:3 "the voice of him that crieth in the wilderness prepare ye the way of the Lord make straight in the desert a pathway for our God" The gospel writer of Mark in the very beginning of the Gospel makes mention of this verse of John the Baptist before Jesus ministry starts... by the gospel writers admission John the Baptist was the one who Malachi spoke of.. John the Baptist said of Jesus..in the first chapter "7and preached, saying, there comes one mightier than I after me the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to stoop down and unloose verse 8 the next verse says indeed I have baptize you with water but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost" ... so then we also have an admonition from John the Baptist that Jesus is God. ... we also have an epistle in the Bible of Jesus brother James... .. God bless you I hope you stay safe out there..

@@enoch3874 "having bias doesn't necessarily mean that your argument is invalid" If someone's biased narrative is true by accident, it's usually confirmed via a unbiased evidence. But more often than not, biased conclusions aren;t quite correct.

Except when Jesus said that, the Pharisees wanted to stone Jesus IIRC...often when Jesus says something that modern scholars try to miscategorize, the pharisees come to our rescue by how they react.

You are assuming that Ehrman himself has no bias. Your argument about the "I am" being interpreted differently could also apply to Ehrman, especially since he has shown himself to be hostile towards religion and especially Christian orthodoxy.

@@rodrigorivers2469 "He doesn't sprinkle in his personal bias" This means Ehrman very well might have bias, but he does follow the evidence first. That's quite a contrast to the Christian for whom bias comes first, and evidence is an afterthought.

Powerful

Indeed

PRAISED BE GOD JESUS CHRIST, WHO IS THE ONLY WAY TO KNOLEDGE OF GOD.

@@jati9484 that's not true man, don't say things you don't know

@@aniahammoudi9569 LOL HOW DO YOU KNOW, THAT I DO NOT KNOW AND WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE TO KNOW WHAT GOD REVEALS TO WHOOM HE WANTS TO REVEAL IT, I'M TELLING YOU TRULLY THAT JESUS CHRIST IS THE ALL MIGHTY GOD AND THERE IS NO OTHER WAY BUT THRU HIM AND THE HOLLY SCRIPTURE IS IN ACORDANCE WITH THIS; LOOK John 14:6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. SO YOU SEE NOT THRU YOUR PEDOPHILE PROPHET MOHAMMAD OR ANY OTHER PROPHET, NOT THRU HUMANITY, NOT THRU MAN'S HYPOCRITICAL KINDESS OR ANY OTHER WAY, BUT ONLY AND ONLY THRU JESUS CHRIST, THE ALLMIGHTY GOD AND FATHER WHO CAME DOWN TO SACRIFICE HIMSELF FOR HIS CHILDERN.

Please quote book -> chapter -> verse(s) where you see Jesus said that "he is not God".

@@michaelau5159 *John 10* _22It was the Feast of the Dedication at Jerusalem. 23It was winter, and Jesus was walking in the temple, in Solomon's porch. 24The Jews therefore came around him and said to him, _*_"How long will you hold us in suspense? If you are the Christ, tell us plainly."_*_ 25Jesus answered them, _*_"I told you, and you don't believe. The works that I do in my Father's name, these testify about me._*_ 26But you don't believe, because you are not of my sheep, as I told you. 27My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. 28I give eternal life to them. They will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. _*_29My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all._*_ No one is able to snatch them out of my Father's hand. 30I and the Father are one." 31Therefore Jews took up stones again to stone him. 32Jesus answered them, "I have shown you many good works from my Father. For which of those works do you stone me?" 33The Jews answered him, _*_"We don't stone you for a good work, but for blasphemy: because you, being a man, make yourself God."_*_ 34Jesus answered them, "Isn't it written in your law, 'I said, you are gods?' _*_35If he called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture can't be broken), 36do you say of him whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, 'You blaspheme,' because I said, 'I am the Son of God?'_*_ 37If I don't do the works of my Father, don't believe me. 38But if I do them, though you don't believe me, believe the works; that you may know and believe that the Father is in me, and I in the Father." 39They sought again to seize him, and he went out of their hand._ In the above mentioned passages, the religious leaders are asking Jesus to openly admit that He was claiming to be the Messiah. What is often overlooked in this however, is that the religious leaders wanted to trap Jesus and put Him to death for blasphemy. Not for claiming to be God of course, as everyone knew full well Jesus was worshipping the same God they were and that God is no man. But moreso, for falsely claiming to be the prophesied Messiah" sent by God to save humanity. With that said, Jesus answered that He had already told them who He was, and that they did not believe Him. After which, Jesus added that He and the Father were one which prompted the religious leaders to stone Him saying that He was making Himself God. But Jesus exposed their faulty reasoning by citing the Law, stating that the human Judges of Israel were rightfully called Gods by YHWH. And that if He(as in; God) called them(the Judges of Israel) Gods, then how could He(Jesus) be guilty of blasphemy for claiming to be "... the Son of God..." Do you see what just happens there? Jesus Himself said it, how could He be guilty of making Himself God when He claimed to be "the Son of God"? In addition to this, there is another account in-where the Scribes and Pharisees asked Jesus who He was? After which Jesus answers that they would know who He was when they lifted-up the Son of man. Following this near prophecy, the Bible record reveals that those present became exceedingly afraid, saying, 'Truly this was God's Son.' And least but not last, when Jesus stood trial, the charge of blasphemy was defined for all to see; _The Jews answered him, "We have a law, and by our law he ought to die, because he made himself the Son of God."_ - John 19.7 PS. Jesus' being one with God is explained in John 17.20-26

@@smalltimer4370 again you read things into the Bible that are not there. You use John as an example of why Jesus is not GOD yet John starts with "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was in the beginning with God. 3All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being. 4In Him was life, and the life was the Light of men. 5The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it."

@@michaelau5159 *RE:* again you read things into the Bible that are not there *A.* And what words in my previous comment were "read into the Bible" exactly? PS. John 1.1 has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with Jesus denying being God on earth.

@@smalltimer4370 "Not for claiming to be God of course, as everyone knew full well Jesus was worshipping the same God they were and that God is no man." John 1 starts by telling us exactly who Jesus is, you can deny it all you want but Jesus being GOD is the central theme of the Gospel of John.

The words 'I am,' are not some magical word for GOD - sorry but that's just not how this works That said, the Greek expression translated 'I am', is not magical either, and moreso, works perfectly within the context of the statement - I existed, I was there, it was I, etc, etc. And so, this notion that Jesus declared Himself GOD on earth is nothing but hogwash, as it is obvious that the standard set by GOD was well established at the time Jesus walked the earth, and that there are no records of Jesus making use of such declarations at any point in scripture.

So the proof of Jesus being the Christ is something nobody has demonstrated to be true (resurrection). Going strong in the Christian camp

@@piage84 well first of all, bart Erhman is the person who said: "there are good evidences for the resurrection BUT I DONT BELIEVE IT". And so to know, Erhman knows that without resurrection, there would be no "christianity" at all. Since Jesus is the Christ hence his followers were called christians.

Everything, and I do mean everything, that supports the historicity of the Jesus-Messiah belief comes from the written claims of anonymous religious authors first recorded decades after this alleged person's life. You can't logically prove the validity of a claim by using its own existence as its own evidence. If your criteria for accepting claims is that the claim takes itself seriously, then why not also believe any other internally consistent and fervent truth claim? Why not believe the historicity of Muhammad's claims and believe he was a true prophet of Allah? After all, he made the claim, he believed it himself, and he wrote about it..so it must be true! Hell, at least Muhammad has contemporaneous, non-religious sources that verify he was most likely a real person. Jesus? Not so much.

@@sharpienate of course not it's own validity, but the eye witnes accounts are overwhelming. You cant find any other historical person being referenced as much as Jesus, especially decades after them. You can though find centuries later from other sources, Aristotle, Socrates, Alexander the great don't have this type of material to even provide a proof of their existence. I can say that everything found that someone says he is "x" can be written by someone else, that doesn't provide neither evidence nor proof of anything. The historical accounts prove the existence of Jesus Christ, the sudden shift of most parts of known world (Mediterranean) from polytheism to monotheism within decades is also evident, there are only 2 possibilities (as the third one can be exempt from equation meaning mental issues) either all are liars, or they did see what they saw. If you'd know that you would be persecuted for your lie, if caught under roman soldiers with such fierce power during torture wouldn't you say "ok I admit the body is there"??? Has anyone ever found the body of Jesus? The tomb is empty, the roman soldiers were executed as their families for treason, Saul from prosecutor with power to execute capital punishment shifts from pharisee to christian. You can't have this type of events during any other historical timeframe. Mhmd was a scumbang paedophile, necrophiliac, mass murderer, fascist, racist, womanizer with huge psychological problems, read the book "people vs mhmd, a psychological analysis". The epistle of Paul written earlier than 64ad having the Christian creed at this formation with witnesses of the time, that anyone reading the epistle could go and ask them. And for what reason would people allow themselves to be thrown in jail, beaten etc for a knowing lie? If they would know they lie no one would do it, if they wouldn't know they lie they would, exactly as jihadist do. Sarah 33:50 of quran proves that mhmd did everything for his own benefit. Either he existed or not, the quran is the only supposed material alongside with hadith to back all my claims about his character. Why to believe in Jesus Christ? Because he can prove himself as God, he was in front of Pontius Pilate, and told him:"you have only the power that is given from above, you can do nothing to me". And whom would you follow? A person that did miracles having people following him while he didn't have a place to stay? Or a murderer, pedophile, psychologically problematic person, with sex slaves, and other disorders? Jesus has the best moral values than any person in history. Josephus, pliny the younger are historians of the era, writing about his morality. And in the end Jesus says "whosoever believes in him", you don't have to believe in him, you are not obligated it's a personal choice. And it works better than the law you live on, you must not steal if you do it you are jailed, it's not a choice its obligatory. And for that free choice you make you take the reward of it: for those who believe in him eternal life, those who don't eternal death, that's what you want that's what you get. And I don't understand why people get offended by it, maybe because you believe you are good? Are you? Haven't you lied? Haven't you stole? Haven't you cursed God (used his name in vain)? Haven't you listed for anyone? A perfect God doesn't abide with imperfection, life doesn't abide with death, freedom doesn't abide with slavery, why then God would accept any imperfect human? Would you be able to live alongside with paedophile? would you go hand in hand with a thief? Would you like to be lied to? Why should God accept humans? What is it that you would do that God wouldn't be able to do it better than you? You want a miracle? Why? Havent you read about the woman that lost all her possessions because of her health condition, and saying "if only I would touch him", or the legionnaire "you can say it and it will be done" such trust in God's power! And you are wrong!! Not "everything" there are historians of the time referring to Jesus: tacitus, josephus, thallus, pliny the younger, origen, julius africanus, which other historical person does have such authenticity? You can in the end believe that you yourself can do "everything" but the only thing you cannot do is to know what the consequences are for every action you make, otherwise knowing the outcome you'd know what your action will be. Good night.

@TJordan14 in the mind of atheists is a belief that christianity started persecuting and murdering people from its birth, that is because their knowledge of history is less than crumb of bread.

Jesus was put on trial and killed for claiming to be the Son of GOD, whom they understood to be the prophesied Messiah.

Not quite. I'm not sure which version you're reading, but in NIV it's pretty clear from the language that Jesus never confirms being the Messiah, let alone god himself. He does not reply with yes, but "you say that I am." At no point does he give the clear cut "yes, I'm the son of God" answer. Furthermore, being a Messiah and Son of God is still different from being God at the time for jewish people.

​@@caiolanes3842 *1.* _For _*_there is born to you, this day,_*_ in the city of David, _*_a Savior, who is Christ the Lord_* - Luke 2.11 *2.* _He first found his own brother, Simon, and said to him, _*_"We have found the Messiah!"_* - John 1.41 *3.* _He said to them, "But _*_who do you say that I am?"_*_ 16Simon Peter answered, _*_"You are the Christ, the Son of the living God."_*_ 17Jesus answered him, _*_"Blessed are you, Simon_*_ Bar Jonah, _*_for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven_* - Matthew 16.16-17 *4. **_The woman said to him, *"I know that Messiah comes,_*_ when he has come, _*_he will declare to us all things."_*_ 26Jesus said to her, _*_"I am he, the one who speaks to you"_* - John 4.25-26 *5.* _do you say of him whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, 'You blaspheme' _*_because I said, 'I am the Son of God?'_* - John 10.36 *6.* _But he stayed quiet, and answered nothing. Again the high priest asked him, _*_"Are you the Christ, the Son of the Blessed?"_*_ 62Jesus said, _*_"I am._*_ You will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of Power, and coming with the clouds of the sky"_ - Mark 14.61-62 *7.* _The Jews answered him, "We have a law, and by our law _*_he ought to die, because he made himself the Son of God"_* - John 19.7 *8.* _Therefore Jesus did many other signs in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book; _*_31but these are written, that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God,_*_ and that believing you may have life in his name_ - John 20.30-31 Therefore and with that being said, the summary is as follows; 1. The angels announced that Jesus who was born on earth was a savior who was the Christ and Lord 2. The Apostles announced that they had found the Messiah 3. Jesus blessed Simon for identifying that He was the Christ and Son of the living GOD 4. The Samaritan woman revealed to be waiting for the Messiah, to which Jesus answered, that this was Him 5. Jesus identified Himself as the Son of GOD before the Jews 6. Jesus identified Himself as the Son of the Blessed(GOD) before the Sanhedrin 7. The Jews told Pilate that Jesus ought to be killed for making Himself the Son of GOD 8. It was written that we may believe that Jesus is the Christ and Son of GOD

@@SmalltimR Interesting. You seem to be missing several important aspects of this conversation here. A) No one here is disputing that Jesus openly claims to be God in the Gospel of John, so quotes 2, 4, 6, and 7, being there are completely unnecessary. B)No one here is disputing that the Synoptic Gospels were written by people who saw Jesus as divine, making quotes 1 also useless. C) Being called a Son of God was not a sign of divinity itself during the 1st Century. It was a common way to refer to a person seen as very religious, with some other people also being called that in Jewish texts with no intentions of them being seen as gods themselves. D) Similarly, being a Messiah did not mean Jesus was divine. Interpretations of the time of what the Messiah would be varied wildly with some imagining a figure like David leading them against the Romans, others viewing a Moses to bring them to a better land.

@@caiolanes3842 *You said:* _...it's pretty clear from the language that Jesus never confirms being the Messiah, let alone god himself_ *See:* 3, 4 *You said:* _At no point does he give the clear cut "yes, I'm the son of God" answer_ *See:* 5, 6 *You said:* _Similarly, being a Messiah did not mean Jesus was divine_ *See:* Philippians 2.6 *Messiah:* Christ and/or Anointed One In Bible history people were often anointed by having oil poured on their heads, whereas Jesus was anointed by GOD with holy spirit - see; Matthew 3.​16 As for Jesus' divinity, the Bible reveals that He became better than the angels, inheriting a better name - to which I'd add, if the angels of GOD are Holy, then what we consider Jesus? Needless to say, the conclusion that Jesus was not divine prior-to coming to earth or following His resurrection is not likely at all, as the Bible identifies Jesus as being higher than the angels in heaven, and who is given 'all authority' over the heavens and the earth by GOD to rule for 1000 years(millennial reign), in GOD's name. And so, it is from this that Jesus would qualify the term of a divine being. PS, it's worth noting that Jesus' divinity does no make Him equal-to or GOD Himself, as that position is held by His own GOD and Father who declared Himself to be the source and cause of all things alone, and by Himself - Isaiah 44.244

_The tempter came and said to Him, _*_'If you are the Son of GOD,_*_ command that these stones become bread'. But He answered, 'It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds out of _*_GOD’s mouth'_* _Then the devil took Him into the Holy City, and set Him on the pinnacle of the temple, and said to Him, _*_'If you are the Son of GOD,_*_ throw yourself down, for it is written, _*_‘He will command his angels concerning you,’_*_ and, ‘On their hands they will bear you up, so that you don’t dash your foot against a stone'_ _Jesus said to him, 'again, it is written, _*_'You shall not test the LORD, your GOD'_* _Again, the devil took Him to an exceedingly high mountain, and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory, and said to Him, 'I will give you all of these things, if you will fall down and worship me'. Then Jesus said to him, 'Get behind me, Satan! For it is written, ‘You shall worship _*_the LORD your GOD,_*_ and you shall serve _*_Him only'_*_ - then the devil left, and behold, angels came and served Him._ Which now raises the question, of which GOD Satan and Jesus were referring-to throughout this exchange? And moreso, who was the GOD that Jesus worshipped, preached and taught of, throughout His ministry on earth? _Don't let your heart be troubled. _*_Believe in GOD_*_ - believe also in me_ - John 14.1

. Matthew 28:18 - And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

You say that Bart Ehrman has provided historical evidence that Jesus never claimed to be God. Please prove it. I see Matthew 7:22-23. Jesus is saying me and is judging who is lost and who is saved. Only God has the right to judge who is saved and who is lost, so Jesus is claiming to be God.

@@kennethgee2004 is the gospel of Mathew a accurate recording of what Jesus did or said?

@@neilnelmar8007 Yes, from the perspective of Matthew. Matthew was writing to a specific audience with the knowledge of what Jesus said and provided the key points Matthew wanted to emphasize. The other gospels have different audiences and different key points all said by Jesus.

If you see it this way. Stop looking.

@@fullstackup how, when it's in your face all the time? Apologetics need to embrace reality and stop looking for answers in ancient, outdated religious superstition. We're in modern technological age. Welcome.

Morbius the evidences from the Quran, and even if you go to youtube you will find a lot of Christians investigators saying the Bible has been corrupted by the man they had found more evidences from old texts saying another things that we do have today on the Bible King James Version. And the People of the Torah even didn’t agree with the Christians bibles and Torah has came before the Christians Bible. ( By the way if I’m going to bring you proof of Christians are wrong will be from Quran . ) Do you will believe?

Morbius exactly you’re right on that. But the same they don’t believe Jesus is God and they believe in a lot of things Muslims we do believe like Jesus isn’t God , pork meat is forbidden and others more things like womes have to cover their body and hairs properly. But if you see between the threes religions Christianity is the most far away from GOD words. Taking a man as a God even eating pork meat . But let’s forget about the pork but taking a Man as a GOD that’s the worst part. ( I’m sorry for my bad grammar English isn’t my mother language )

Morbius not isn’t because Muslims we don’t see Jesus as a Son of GOD neither as Jews believe, but actually was the same message for all humankind just that in some point of history some mans changed that message and that’s why today’s some scriptures are corrupted. The mercy of GOD behind sending messengers after messengers is because the corruption of the scriptures before. But like we say Only GOD knows best one day we are going to know whom were wrong or right. Meanwhile let’s keep living the life and respecting each others.

He says it indirectly.

Jesus claim to be God in the Bible.

@@nothx512 jesus said I have not come but to fulfil the laws of the prophets but how can a God die on a cross? What was the salvation of people who came before jesus was born? I want you to think logic and read the bibile in full context.

Portia Morray then he was crucified as human being or as God?

Real T in bible, people don’t use their God given logic

@@alhassangangu4357 Isn't it written in the Bible that Jesus rose up on the third day?Died as a human to confirmed He is God, He rose up from the dead. Even in surah 19:33,Jesus mentioned the day He was born, the day He will die ,and the day He shall be raised alive. Some Muslims don't read the their Islamic books.

Is it really that hard to actually read the Bible? 𝚍𝚘 𝚢𝚘𝚞 𝚜𝚊𝚢 𝚘𝚏 𝚑𝚒𝚖 𝚠𝚑𝚘𝚖 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝙵𝚊𝚝𝚑𝚎𝚛 𝚜𝚊𝚗𝚌𝚝𝚒𝚏𝚒𝚎𝚍 𝚊𝚗𝚍 𝚜𝚎𝚗𝚝 𝚒𝚗𝚝𝚘 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝚠𝚘𝚛𝚕𝚍, '𝚈𝚘𝚞 𝚋𝚕𝚊𝚜𝚙𝚑𝚎𝚖𝚎,' 𝐛𝐞𝐜𝐚𝐮𝐬𝐞 𝐈 𝐬𝐚𝐢𝐝, '𝐈 𝐚𝐦 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐒𝐨𝐧 𝐨𝐟 𝐆𝐨𝐝?' - 𝙹𝚘𝚑𝚗 𝟷0.𝟹𝟼 𝚃𝚑𝚎 𝙹𝚎𝚠𝚜 𝚊𝚗𝚜𝚠𝚎𝚛𝚎𝚍 𝚑𝚒𝚖, "𝚆𝚎 𝚑𝚊𝚟𝚎 𝚊 𝚕𝚊𝚠, 𝚊𝚗𝚍 𝚋𝚢 𝚘𝚞𝚛 𝚕𝚊𝚠 𝐡𝐞 𝐨𝐮𝐠𝐡𝐭 𝐭𝐨 𝐝𝐢𝐞, 𝐛𝐞𝐜𝐚𝐮𝐬𝐞 𝐡𝐞 𝐦𝐚𝐝𝐞 𝐡𝐢𝐦𝐬𝐞𝐥𝐟 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐒𝐨𝐧 𝐨𝐟 𝐆𝐨𝐝." - 𝙹𝚘𝚑𝚗 𝟷𝟿.𝟽 ​ 𝙽𝚘𝚠 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝚌𝚎𝚗𝚝𝚞𝚛𝚒𝚘𝚗, 𝚊𝚗𝚍 𝚝𝚑𝚘𝚜𝚎 𝚠𝚑𝚘 𝚠𝚎𝚛𝚎 𝚠𝚒𝚝𝚑 𝚑𝚒𝚖 𝚠𝚊𝚝𝚌𝚑𝚒𝚗𝚐 𝙹𝚎𝚜𝚞𝚜, 𝐰𝐡𝐞𝐧 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐲 𝐬𝐚𝐰 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝚎𝚊𝚛𝚝𝚑𝚚𝚞𝚊𝚔𝚎, 𝚊𝚗𝚍 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝚝𝚑𝚒𝚗𝚐𝚜 𝚝𝚑𝚊𝚝 𝚠𝚎𝚛𝚎 𝚍𝚘𝚗𝚎, 𝚏𝚎𝚊𝚛𝚎𝚍 𝚎𝚡𝚌𝚎𝚎𝚍𝚒𝚗𝚐𝚕𝚢, 𝚜𝚊𝚢𝚒𝚗𝚐, "𝐓𝐫𝐮𝐥𝐲 𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐬 𝐰𝐚𝐬 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐒𝐨𝐧 𝐨𝐟 𝐆𝐨𝐝." - 𝙼𝚊𝚝𝚝𝚑𝚎𝚠 𝟸𝟽.𝟻𝟺

@@smalltimer4370 John 5:3 - 30 “I can do nothing on my own. As I hear, I judge, and my judgment is just, because I seek not my own will but the will of him who sent me. 31 If I alone bear witness about myself, my testimony is not true.

‭‭John‬ ‭5:32-47‬ ‭ESV “There is another who bears witness about me, and I know that the testimony that he bears about me is true. You sent to John, and he has borne witness to the truth. Not that the testimony that I receive is from man, but I say these things so that you may be saved. He was a burning and shining lamp, and you were willing to rejoice for a while in his light. But the testimony that I have is greater than that of John. For the works that the Father has given me to accomplish, the very works that I am doing, bear witness about me that the Father has sent me. And the Father who sent me has himself borne witness about me. His voice you have never heard, his form you have never seen, and you do not have his word abiding in you, for you do not believe the one whom he has sent. You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is they that bear witness about me, yet you refuse to come to me that you may have life. I do not receive glory from people. But I know that you do not have the love of God within you. I have come in my Father's name, and you do not receive me. If another comes in his own name, you will receive him. How can you believe, when you receive glory from one another and do not seek the glory that comes from the only God? Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father. There is one who accuses you: Moses, on whom you have set your hope. For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe my words?"”‬‬ Much love friend,@az8868 If you read the rest Jesus claims that His father(God) sent him and bears witness about him.

@@samuelisner4710 John 13:13 You call Me Teacher and Lord, and rightly so, because I am. 1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, Matthew 23:9 And do not call anyone on earth 'father,' for you have one Father, and he is in heaven. 1 Corinthians 8:6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live... "I am the LORD, and there is no other; Besides Me there is no God. I will gird you, though you have not known Me; That men may know from the rising to the setting of the sun That there is no one besides Me.I am the LORD, and there is no other," Isaiah 45:5-6

@@az-fy3mp A most excellent passage - thanks for sharing

You raise some interesting points. With that said, the fact is that declarations of GOD's identity were well established prior-to Jesus arrival on earth, and that there are no records of Jesus either directly or indirectly, meeting the standard set by GOD in that particular regard. Following this, and also notable, is that while Jesus was clearly revealed to be divine(of GOD), as well as being authorized by His own GOD and Father to carry out His will, it remains that this would not satisfy the terms provided by GOD regarding His nature as the source and cause of all things. And so at best, the conclusion is that Jesus is the highest ranking agent of the Most High GOD, though never equal-to or GOD Himself, as that position proves logically unattainable by anyone or anything, other than GOD who identified Himself to be alone and by Himself the source of all things. Which would include, though not limited-to His word itself. And finally, and on the topic of forgiveness of sins, Jesus revealed that He was authorized to do so, of-which we read, was then given(authority to forgive sins) to His Apostles also, as the account goes-on to show that GOD had given such authority to men.

Jesus never called himself God while he was on earth and the reason is: He did not come as God, but as the Lámb of God to offer himself (on mankind's behalf) to the only living God! While in the flesh, he also could not say that he is God, as he did not come as Gód, but to be a human like you and me, with 2 differences: he was not born from the corrupted seed of Adam, and he never sinned. However, he díd acknowledged that he is God! Mark 14:61-62 'I am the Christ, the Son of the blessed God'. 'Nathanael said to him, “How do you know me?” Jesus answered and said to him, “Before Philip called you, when you were under the fig tree, I saw you.” Nathanael answered and said to him, “Rabbi, you are the Son of God! You are the King of Israel!'Jesus answered and said to him, “Because I said to you, ‘I saw you under the fig tree,’ do you believe? You will see greater things than these'. John 1:48-50 John 10:36 'I am the Son of God'. John 11:27 'Martha replied: Yes Lord, I do. I've always believed that you are the Anointed One, the Son of God who has come into the world for us!' -Jesus never denied/replied to this eternal truth. John 13:13 Jesus acknowledge that he is Lord. At the cross "Surely, this man was the Son of God! Thomas at Jesus's appearances to him after His resurrection: You are my Lord, and you are my God! John 20:29 Peter called Jesus "my Lord". John 21:15 The Roman captain at the cross "I have no doubt; we just killed the righteous one". Luke 24:47

God doesn’t have anything handed over to Him. He already owns everything from eternity past. So thanks for proving 100% that Jesus is NOT God 👍🏼

.Matthew 28:18 - And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

Before Abraham was I am. Gospel of John.

@Tom Bladecki the longer explanation the less reliable message. In other words Before Abraham was I am the man? For such a sentence the crowds wanted him to Stone to death? Are you serious? You must have Polish origin and I think I know Well which part of Poles. I understand that you go this way. Anyway, Keep your belief or non-belief. I do not think that the future of mankind relies on belief when deeds are Bad. And that is the message Jesus gave, no matter which confession we are, if we do harm each other, no belief will help.

Revelation 1:17-19 "When I saw Him, I fell at His feet like a dead man. But He placed His right hand on me and said, “Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last, 18the Living One. I was dead, and behold, now I am alive forever and ever! And I hold the keys of Death and of Hades. 19Therefore write down the things you have seen, and the things that are, and the things that will happen after this.…" Here we have Jesus saying I am the First and the Last (Title of God throughout the whole old Testament) and then " I was dead, and behold, now I am alive forever and ever" That clearly is Jesus, so this verse clearly states that God=Jesus.

Tom Bladecki yes as Isaiah told us God would come to us as a baby born, he mighty God “el gibbor” only used for God in the OT. As the brother stated above, read Isaiah 44:6 and compare to Revelation 1:8, 1:17-18, 22:13, 22:16. Jesus claimed to be the first and the last, who is said to also be the Alpha and Omega, who is said to be the ALMIGHTY in revelation 1:8, earliest manuscripts say “Lord God” and I don’t even use those I use the KJV which says “Almighty”, but if you want “God” it’s right there in revelation 1:8, see ESV for example. There is no way around this, Jesus is God but He is not the Father but one WITH the Father and the Spirit.

@Tom Bladecki Did you read the verses stupid or are you only hurling insults because you got owned?

they said he said

Amen to that, God has sons by the tons in the old testament, Adam is THE SON OF GOD in the old testament. Moses is called GOD by God himself.

Son if we interpret it through expressions from jewish belief at the time means prophet.

Scroptures are so clear.2corinthians 4 :4.sayan blinds the minds.....

@@TH3-ON3 you reading the wrong bible

Kile **The issue is; what did the “historical” Jesus say about himself?** I’ve noticed your scripture cut and paste elsewhere but you seem to miss that point. For starters it’s not the “historical” Jesus speaking in the books of Revelation, Romans, Isiah, etc so there’s no need to include those. We should only be focusing on the 4 Gospels as they are supposedly the direct accounts of Jesus. Erhman argues that John was written much later and that it is in that Jesus started claiming he was God. So as a historian, he’s not convinced that the historical Jesus said such things. The other books like Mark were written much earlier and would be closer to time the historical Jesus is said to have lived...thus, they would be much higher probability of an accurate retelling of the account of Jesus. So the intellectually honest scholarship agree that the historical Jesus never claimed to be God and that it were later writers that added that in. That’s why at 10:40 Williams reluctantly agreed that Jesus never claimed to be God in the earlier written books and Aram is right in pointing that out.

Kile If only Erhman was as smart, learned and wise as you and didn’t rely on his “limited” knowledge.... Oh wait, he understand Ancient Greek and looks at things in an objective and academic way. So given his academic background, evidence and arguments, I’d take his word about the New Testament over some random bloke on KZfaq quoting scriptures at me. I use to be a Christian, now an agnostic atheist, until I realized the scriptures have questionable beginnings and are contradictory at best; immoral and presents a god not worthy of worship at worst. Feel free to hold on to your beliefs and scriptures all you want, but it doesn’t hold up to scrutiny and regurgitating them at me means nothing. And also claim that they are “inspired” by a god or gods, but I have no reason to believe there is a god or gods to begin with. And it’s funny that you go right back to John, which was the last gospel to be written with all of its embellishments and 2 Timothy which was NOT written by Paul. Cheers. PS, I’m familiar with people like John Lennox, little Billy Craig, and many others, so no need to drag their asses into the conversation.

Kile Thanks for showing some theists live in fear of a god who would send his creations to hell. Not worthy of worship...

Kile There you go again, throwing out scriptures....does nothing for me. But since you brought it up and are such an amazing theologian; who wrote 2 Peter?

Kile You also use the a Book of Revelation... Revelation 1:3 ends “...for the time is at hand” KJV Revelation was written almost 2,000 years ago...is the time STILL at hand? Has the time been at hand for 2,000 years?

lol, I don't know if you realize this or not, but Islam does not worship YHWH

@@smalltimer4370 show me 1 verse in the new testament where Jesus peace and blessings upon Him called God YHWH. YHWH isn't mentioned at all in the new testament

@@agilla7907 It is not the NT that proves this, especially for Islam but moreso, the Old Testament - otherwise known as "The Tora" And The Tora tells us that God revealed Himself to mankind by name, and that, that name was none other than YHWH for all eternity and all generations. Therefore and with regard to your select criteria, it goes without saying that the Muslim faith does not accept or recognize the very text they claim to adhere-to, that is to say the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob who's name was revealed to humanity as YHWH. PS. The entire Hebrew text(OT) was written around the name of YHWH, and who is of course, the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ who was sent to earth to save humanity from the sin and death brought into the world by Adam.

@@smalltimer4370 yea i know it is in the old testament. But don't you find it odd Jesus peace and blessings upon Him never Mentioned God by YHWH in the New testament? HE mentioned as Father or God. So you don't have any proof whatsoever Jesus peace and blessing upon Him called God YHWH. Not a singel verse in the NT you can find the word YHWH.

@@smalltimer4370 and btw Jesus peace and blessing upon Him never said He's God in the bible. Show me one verse plz.

Bible says Jesus did not do anything of his own authority or will. John 5:30 I can of my own self do nothing. As I hear I judge and my judgement is just, for I seek not my will but the will of my father.

@@faaiz2785 From your passage: "whatever the Father does the Son also does." This statement obviously implies that Jesus can do nothing on his own APART FROM WHAT THE FATHER DOES because *they do the same thing* "he has given him authority to judge because he is the Son of Man" This is a good counterargument but it is clear from more context that Jesus responding to criticism that he is breaking Sabbath traditions and claiming to be equal to God (verse 18) by saying that his will is *aligned with* " *the Father's* " - not that he is unable to perform supernatural acts but that he NEVER would without the Father's approval because he "seeks to please the Father" Your problem is that you begin by assuming Jesus is not God. If instead you allow for the possibility of the _trinity_ then Jesus is doing miraculous work by his own power. "I and the Father are one" John 10:30 Prior to that verse he says no one can "snatch" people from his hand and then proceeds to say no one can "snatch them from the Father's hand and then concludes with John 10:30. It's very mysterious and cryptic but it is what has lead to the notion of God's triune nature.

@@thebullybuffalo John 17:21 that they all may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You; that they also may be one in Us, that the world may believe that You sent Me. Then you should also take the disciples as God, because Jesus even adds them in one.

I could believe that God is. With Jesus and Jesus is with god .... But I can't believe that God is Jesus and Jesus is god ..

@@faaiz2785 John 17:21 is talking about unity of mind not being. Jesus is praying that they would all be of the same _mind_ in believing the gospel (verse 20). I never used this verse as evidence that Jesus and the Father are God. I used John 10 which you didn't respond to. Not every time in the Bible when it uses the word "one" is it referring to _being_ . It is referring to *unity* but the kind of unity its speaking of depends on the context. As I said before John 10 shows Jesus claiming unity in being with the Father which is why they tried to stone him immediately after.

Anwara Begum he is a renowned bible scholar

Yup..agree.

Pointless debate...never ending. No one proof go to heaven or hell yet in believing jesus or not believing to jesus as God. Better sleep🙏

He is.

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Do not be fooled by false prophets and so-called Christians who worship, teach and preach a god and doctrine unlike Jesus Christ on earth. The road to salvation is narrow, and true followers of Christ are few and far in-between.

I assume sarcasm in what you say. I think you’re saying he is not God

That would be the part where proponents of the trinity resort to hopping on one foot while dancing on the other in an attempt at averting the conclusion - for example; P1. YHWH is a triune GOD, consisting of three persons in one being P2. YHWH declares Himself to be doing all things "alone" and "by Himself" P3. [insert whatsoever here...] What is most amazing, is how proponents of the trinity must delude themselves in order to cater to that which is never taught in scripture

@@TheMrpalidanyone who says Jesus is God is an idolator. You cant put God in a human body. Then say he prays to someone else (mt 26:39) say someone else is greater than him (Jn 14:28) and look up at the sky and call someone else "the only true god" (Jn 17:3) those who say Jesus is God are products of severe brainwashing. "This failure of Christian theology to produce logical justification of the cardinal point in its trinitarian doctrine is of the greatest possible significance." (The Evolution of the Doctrine of the Trinity," published in Essays on the Trinity and the Incarnation, A.E.J. Rawlinson, 1928)

Yes as far as role goes yes in role he was greater see he is 1in being and 3 in person a god that is his being that is what he is but who he is who he is is the loving obedient son . The ever powerful holy ghost and the jealous firm father

Jesus is god

😂😂 Who is Maryam on your Quran Abdul? Where is Aaron and Where is Moses. (How can Mary on bible, have uncle a Prophet Moses) Matthew 1:17 Thus there were fourteen generations in all from Abraham to David, fourteen from David to the exile to Babylon, and fourteen from the exile to the Messiah. Luke 1 : 26 In the sixth month of Elizabeth's pregnancy, God sent the angel Gabriel to Nazareth, a town in Galilee, (First Word of your ...... said : Quran 3:45. ˹Remember˺ when the angels proclaimed, “O Mary! Allah gives you good news of a Word from Him, his name will be the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary;) Why that said the "Angels" ? its JIBRIL alone or have some companion? Abdul Potato, Tomato .. You know what it is? thats is Stealing from other books and copy paste on your book, "If your book its the rigth" why Maryam Mother if ISA get brith under dates tree? 600 years Bible already exist before Quran, and you Abdul Claim: Quran from Allah, then Who Stupid here? Said: Maryam has uncle of Prophet Moses. ISA its NOT Jesus, Abraham its NOT Ibrahim, Gabriel its NOT Jibril Don't Play your "Fabricated" Story that your stolen From Bible Abdul... stop lying

@@criticalhit5041 why did ALL of the prophets before Jesus never teach about the trinity??

@@commentyes9486 Even Jesus teach God is One, God is Echad 🤣What wrong with u bro?

QS 4:157 is not from the real God. Why? Please look into the text. You Will find a phrase in Quote. This quote (the words of the Jews ) did not exist or were not spoken by the Jews. It is just a fabricstion. How do we know that it ia a fabrication? Because no Jew will say that. The Jews reject Jesus as Messiah and The Apostle/messenger of God. How could they say ," Assuredly, we killed the Messiah, Isa, son of Mary, the messenger of God."? The saying was never spoken. The Crucifixion was real. It happened by the demand of the Jewish Religious leaders and the provocated people. But, the above saying, which is written in the Qur'an is a forgery.

@@moseskristianto1953 it’s because Almighty God (Allah) would never let his prophets become embarrassed by sore losers and disbelievers of this world ,never ever they would get the upper hand .Come on now you wasn’t there when they said we have killed Jesus son of Mary when they put him in cross , so Almight God is telling you what happen when they thought they crucified him .How can a man die for your sins bro let’s be logical I kill someone, rape or steal someone’s property and He dies for my sins how will that be justice ? Every person is responsible for their own actions and that’s what the Holy Quran tell us .Lastly , don’t worry bro when Jesus peace be upon him shall return as the Messiah he will tell you people to depart from me as just what he said in the Bible.I only advice you to make sure you follow what he taught you to seek for the truth and the truth shall free you and not blindly follow what people have caused misguidance

In the dream of every Christians.

samsuddin salleh If you accept Bartmen Saying Jesus isn’t God .. You also Need to accept that He proves Jesus Died,, Which Goes against The Quran claim that Jesus wasn’t crucified.. Don’t be hypocritical and cherry pick what u like and don’t like.. Overwhelming evidence to show Jesus was bored lived and Died by Crucifixion.. Wether he was divine .. To me he is, doesn’t change the fact that Islam gets it wrong and Isn’t reliable.

To all my Muslim Brothers and Sisters In Humanity.......If you accept Bartmen Saying Jesus isn’t God .. You also Need to accept that agrees with the historical records that proves Jesus Died,, Which Goes against The Quran claim that Jesus wasn’t crucified.. Don’t be hypocritical and cherry pick what u like and don’t like.. There are biblical and non biblical Overwhelming evidence to show Jesus was born... lived ...and Died by Crucifixion.. Wether he was divine or not is a matter of belief...To me he is, .....Wether he is or isn’t is irrelevant and doesn’t change the fact that Islam gets the death of Jesus wrong and Isn’t reliable.

Ahmad Ghanem as a Muslim you just shot yourself in the head because using hose same standards, can you now show me where in the Quran Jesus says in these exact words (as you want): 1) I am the messiah 2) I am the word of allah which he cast down to Mary 3) I am a Spirit from allah Show me where Jesus said these in his words in those exact words in your Quran. I’ll be waiting... when you can’t find them, then answer me why you believe as a Muslim that Jesus is the messiah and the word of allah and a spirit from allah.

FIRST_LAST “People of the Book! Do not exceed the limits in your religion, and attribute to Allah nothing except the truth. The *Messiah* , Jesus, son of Mary, was only a Messenger of Allah, and His *Word* that He conveyed unto Mary, and a *Spirit* from Him. So believe in Allah and in His Messengers, and do not say “three”. Give up this assertion; it would be better for you. Allah is indeed just one God. Far be it from His glory that He should have a son. To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and in the earth. Allah is sufficient for a guardian.” (The Noble Quran 4:171)

But Paul never actually met jesus in the flesh ?!

Debatable! But even if he never did, he got the creeds that were passed down to him for the Jerusalem apostles i.e Jesus's disciples. That by definition constitutes the earliest form of Christology. In other words, Jesus's disciples believed that he was divined from the very beginning.

@@joelrodriguez1232 it's not debatable at all it says in bible, have you even read it ??

@@deanodog3667 according to Galatians and the book of acts, Paul persecuted the Church. The question is did he do it while Jesus was alive or after? So you are right. Paul never met him. But he may or may not have seen him which is a different thing.

@@joelrodriguez1232 so upon basis it could be argued that Paul's epistles influenced the gospels as they're earliest testimony of jesus and based upon accounts of a man who never actually met jesus?!

I have written a book about Jesus being God in the Bible. When you read the Bible with the thought that Jesus and God are two separate beings then it is full of contradictions, but when you read it with the knowledge that Jesus and God are one and the same then it makes perfect sense with no contradictions. Please check out my book on Amazon - “Jesus Is God, Scripture Proves It” by Cary Glenn. It’s the only book I ever wrote. It goes into depth on this topic and explains why the Bible over all other religions can be believed. It’s a good study guide you can share with your friends. Check it out. You won’t be sorry you did. Please spread this on social media…we have to get the word out. Jesus says if you believe I am who I say I am, you will die in your sins..

@@carybaker7334 wat r joke 🤣

@@mjsedy2033 dont laugh at the truth my boy

@@carybaker7334 u have thousands manuscript my boy, which one u like? 🤣🤣

@@mjsedy2033 the Dead Sea Scrolls that authenticate the Old Testament for starters....they prove that the Old Testament we read today is the same one that Jesus quoted out of when he was on the earth. so that gives me reason to believe its true and they prophesy about the coming Jesus who is God.

Ask any Jew and Muslim why you are wrong

You don't disprove claims, you prove claims and the Bible is a claim. The burden of proof is always on the claimant. For instance if you said at the Thanksgiving table that you've been screwing your sister for 30 years, that doesn't mean its true until your sister proves it is not. It is not considered true until you prove that you did. Though I guess we shouldn't be expecting too much out of you after stating "300 prophecies". Not even the foremost theist scholars claim that, but I guess if you want to post that level of stupidity on a public forum that's your call.

Very good! Sad thing is, they would not listen then, and they will not listen now

. Matthew 28:18 - And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

I'm Christian as well but unless it implies eternal it could just mean divine, special son of God. Where does it imply Jesus to be eternal asking not disagreeing or agreeing.

@@IAMNOTIAMNOTIAMNOT I don't think you can argue with this because it says "given" do you have a work around for that? I'm Christian as well.

"Thats who you say I am"

Revelation 1:8: "I am the alpha and omega says the lord, God". Revelation 22:13 "I am the alpha and omega" Verse16: " I, JESUS am he"

Medina

John 17:3 ?

It's Es-Sela or Petra in Jordan.

SneezyStudios it’s not Bcos kedar lived in Arabia

@@lolok7999 Where Kedar lived is the Syriac Arabian desert, too north for Medina. It's near Jericho

anwar shamim If Jesus Christ never claimed to be God why was He nailed to a cross?

@@aureliotheredeemed7566 brother jesus peace be upon him never crossified nor he died he was arise by God alive and he will come back again to.testify it. Search in youtube"was.jesus really corssified by dr zakir naik" You will understand it with the proof.thanks.

@@GigglyMiggly28 The crucifixion of Jesus is one of the best attested historical facts. Not only do his followers believe that, so do Jews, Romans, Greeks and secular historians. It seems only muslims do no accept that historical fact because it does not fit into their theological understanding. A shame.

No, but if you want to believe true things, you need the consent of the facts

No human can do miracles. Even Jesus couldn't UNTIL God gave him the holy spirit at Jesus' baptism. All the miracles were done by God acting through these humans. Just something to help.

Damn, you trully didn't undertood or read the scriptures at all. Or you are just talking for the sake of talking. One or the other.

What about John 1:1? What about the 300 prophecies of Jesus in the old testament? What about his crucifixion? Jewish leiders hated Jesus, they knew he was sent by God. Why would Jesus ever go and sacrifice himself on the cross? If he was just a man there was no point in doing so.

what he said is what trinity teaches , of course you cant understand it cause its confusion, trinity came 300 years after christ and not taught in bible, they only use trinity proof texts and ignore the rest of bible

@@AstariahJW John 1:1 not proof enough? Haha

@@sheikshook5720 that does not prove trinity nor does it prove jesus is God, john 1:18 says no man has seen God, no one can see him face to face or we will die from his power exodus 33:20 But he added: “You cannot see my face, for no man can see me and live. if you want to bielieve that an all powerfull and all wise God can die for you then go ahead, then we be still in our sins since God can not die bible says Jesus was made lower than angels hebrews 2:7 You made him a little lower than angels; you crowned him with glory and honor, and appointed him over the works of your hands so if jesus was a God man or God incarnate then he be higher than angels and he would not be the second adam 1 crointhians 15:22 For just as in Adam all are dying,so also in the Christ all will be made alive. Gods own law was to be equal of what was lost, perfect adam who sin, not God so to give back what was lost was to send perfect human jesus to be our ransom . reason why he could die cause he was mortal, someone who is immortal cant die romans 6:9 For we know that Christ, now that he has been raised up from the dead, dies no more; death is no longer master over him Jehovah God gave jesus eternal life for his obedience

Yes, heaven forbid that Thomas could have said; My Lord, as-in; Jesus Christ, AND my GOD, as-in; Our GOD who sent Him right? I mean, it's not as though the entire lesson on seeing and believing was based upon those who saw Jesus Christ sent by GOD on earth... It's not as though the lesson taught to Thomas wasn't based upon seeing and believing... Or that Jesus was GOD's will and commandment made alive on earth... Or that Jesus will come in the glory of His own GOD and Father... It couldn't be that , because someone said so and what they must therefore supersede the Bible... The written word of GOD was given to us to discern lies from the truth. And no sooner was it written did degenerate men take that which belongs to GOD for themselves by perverting the truth with lies. And low and behold, this world is stocked with people who are more than eager to spread those lies - not because it is the truth, or the right thing to do, but because that is what their hearts desire.

@@smalltimer4370 uh, no famous or serious Bible scholar thinks that is what the Thomas quote is about. How about you re read it. Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here, and see my hands; and put out your hand, and place it in my side. Do not disbelieve, but believe.” Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!” Jesus said to him, “Have you believed because you have seen me? Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.” John 20:27‭-‬29 ESV Thomas clearly calling the same person God and Lord and the person he was calling was Jesus

Jesus claims to be God in (Revelation 1:8) Also God says that he doesn't share his glory with anyone (Isaiah 42:8) But Jesus says that he had Glory with God before the World was (John 17:5) Therefore Jesus claimed to be God. Jesus claimed to be God and MANY times he put the things only God can say and do onto himself. If anyone wants the full list of verses, I can send it to you via email.

@@smalltimer4370 go read matthew 24:28-31 then Matthew 26:62-65. Then hit Zechariah 14:1-9 Footnote: Son of God was a messianic title, not diety. THE Son of man was diety title from Daniel 7. Same event in Zechariah 14 and numerous other prophets. Daniel just added another dimension to it. He made a direct yhvh claim and there arenhandfuls of others throughout if you know the old testament. The clearest example is isaiah 41:4, 44:6-7, 48:12 then flip to Revelation 1:13-18 and 2:8. You can also cross-ref the description with Daniel 7. Its not the son of man anymore, its the ancient of days but what does he say. Then you can go to acts 2:28, then reread john entirely, colossians 1, Paul---- deuteronomy 6:4-hear o israel yhvh your God, yhvh is one--- applies this to Jesus as yhvh twiice that im aware of.

@@garlandjones7709 YHWH is not sitting at His own right hand in heaven, and His glory as the source and cause of all things is shared with no one - ever

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But no prohets said: 1. John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. 2. John 14:3 And if I go (to heaven) and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself 3. Forgive sins as God. Mark 2:5 And Jesus: Son, you have forgiveness for your sins. 4. John 8:58 Jesus said to them, Truly I say to you, Before Abraham came into being, I am. I assure you no prophets in this world, ever dare to said those. Jesus revealed Himself more than just prophets.

@@SuperRphp Jesus didn't say these: "God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: 'I AM has sent me to you.'" So God Sent himself to the Israelites .. so Moses is God himself. You can't misinterpret .. Jesus was the way in his lifetime .. Moses was the way in his lifetime. Prophets can't speak out of themselves, they hear what God wants them to speak ( revelation ) so when God forgive they know God forgive. Jesus said you have forgiveness..., he didn't say I forgive your sins.

@Jancy Vargheese every one can say their thing, but I am talking with biblical proof. What is your proof to say that every prophet say that?

Read john 1: 1-14, 4:25,26, 8:58, 9:37. Lazarus dead 4days became alive. Jesus forgive sin.,only God can forgive sin.Jesus raised Himself,on the 3rd day, if someone does not believe its their choive but dont rejec history lol

@@j.almadhajiJohn 8: 58 Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, 👌I am👌.” 59 So they picked up stones to throw at him, but Jesus hid himself and went out of the temple.

@@safjrm6170 I guess you missed the part where it says He Resurrected! But you clearly have not done your homework on History. And every athiest that has brains such as Richard Hawkins, Sam Harris , will tell you, they have not disproven God nor have they come close to doing so. They solely based their assumptions on Theory. So be careful , don't make statements out of ignorance.

Safwaan He went to the pits of the earth to free the captives captive

Safwaan you said Jesus died. i told You He didn’t. And i used to think the same, but go read it honestly without man’s opinion. Jesus is alive now as He was before time. He’s real.

@@safjrm6170 Lol. Jesus said that He lays down his life and He will pick it up again, which He did. If you even understand the concept of life from the Christian view, you'd stop. We exist regardless of a physical form. Jesus' physical form died and He raised it up again.

@@safjrm6170 you definitely have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to the bible. Just leave it.

All prophets have miracles, not only Jesus.

@Budi Bejo yeah👍

@Budi Bejo You are pathetic !! It seems your parents were teaching you shit .. ;)

@Budi Bejo Leave Islam ? QURAN IS THE ONLY evidence of all manuscripts that is revealed By God Almighty. Not the gospels who didn't know who wrote them and your teachings that Jesus is God himself that used to poop , eat drink and in the end was tortured by mobs and die with pain. GOD IS ALMIGHTY GOD is the Greatest God is nothing like him from his creatures. That what is My God.

@Budi Bejo the same false and hate claims against Prophet Mohamad were mentioned 1400 years ago from your ancestors and they still teaching you the same shitty lies.. Inspite of that Islan is the fastest religion on earth. IS That teasing you enough? we will meet in the next life and you will see who was the real God almighty that I am worshipping

Who said that? Bart Ehrman dont agree with you...

@@swissapologetics doesn't he advocate for the development theory?

@@mateopribyl9218 in islam he is also the messiah...but where did brat ehrman said that jesus believed there is no one after him?

Erhman's views contradict Islam, as do virtually all New Testament scholars. For example, scholars believe Jesus was crucified.

Why would god send prophets to die on the cross for our sins, god himself become human and died for us