Unboxing: Middle-Earth Strategy Battle game - Pelennor Fields

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6 жыл бұрын

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Sam attunes to his inner Hobbit as he veritably tears open the box to see the new Middle-Strategy battle Game from Games Workshop.
The Battle of Pelennor Fields pits the forces of Mordor against the Rohirrim and the Army of the Dead. The box is packed with a huge amount of miniatures for both sides including special characters like King Theoden and The Witch-king of Angmar. Interestingly, it seems GW have used some of their older casts for the Rohirrim whilst Theoden is a new model.
If you could tickle any of the Mordor hordes who would it be?
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@Herpkid56
@Herpkid56 5 жыл бұрын
THIS very game right here is what got me into the hobby. Saw and advert for it on the back of the old Star Wars Battlefront game manual that came in the CD case.
@DrBanzai
@DrBanzai 5 жыл бұрын
Those models were pretty much all Perry brothers designs; they’re sculpted ‘old school’, IE with epoxy and plastic. So instead of CAD like Théoden, they look a lot softer.
@samsowden
@samsowden 4 жыл бұрын
and so. much. nicer.
@Greentreeanduril
@Greentreeanduril 5 жыл бұрын
Such a great deal, just for all those miniatures. Gotta have it.
@DannySisto
@DannySisto 3 жыл бұрын
Even though this video is two years old I thought I'd just comment for prospective players watching nowadays: the armies in this set are NOT Matched Play legal. You don't get enough heroes to use all the warrior models they provide. You definitely cannot run a legal tournament list that includes all the models for each force. The Witch-King can take 18 followers. So assuming you take the troll, you're stuck at 17 orcs with an additional 19 you can't use. My suggestion is to run the troll as a Chieftan which unlocks another 12 warriors, and one of the orcs as a Captain for another 6. Just paint him up differently or add some unique bits to make him stand out.
@adammitchell5518
@adammitchell5518 5 жыл бұрын
I bought the Nazgûl on Fell Beast that he's talking about in Poland on a school trip 14 years ago and it is a great model. I found it the other day and it's still unpainted so that will soon be rectified ready to field. It also came with Frodo holding the ring so it must be the standoff between the 2 at Osgiliath
@Sacrilege83
@Sacrilege83 5 жыл бұрын
You have the original metal version. The absolute best.
@adammitchell5518
@adammitchell5518 5 жыл бұрын
@@Sacrilege83 it certainly is a beautiful model
@rklammer
@rklammer 5 жыл бұрын
You guys did a semi good job of this, thanks for giving it your time, as much hype and advertisement for this game can make it bigger than ever!!
@whoaitstiger
@whoaitstiger 5 жыл бұрын
Horse archers _ineffective?_ Lol? Genghis Khan, the Huns, the Parthians? _Seriously?_
@randallcase1009
@randallcase1009 5 жыл бұрын
In LOTR... yeah, they can be really hit or miss! Some games they run riot and in others they are pretty useless.
@whoaitstiger
@whoaitstiger 5 жыл бұрын
True, but horse archers were far more effective than any other form of cavalry, because they used tactics that took long time to learn to counter.
@MrVibriocholerae
@MrVibriocholerae 5 жыл бұрын
the Thracians!!!
@jamst123
@jamst123 5 жыл бұрын
Building an evil army and i can't stop adding to it. Highly addictive.
@Nephilim225
@Nephilim225 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah i wanted to get the minis the first time around, but when i finally got in a position (due to life) to start they pulled them. So will definitely be getting this game.
@SamwiseDODD
@SamwiseDODD 3 жыл бұрын
I love how the chap on the right chastises the matey boy on the left for doing something embarrassing..... right after he says pelen-DOR fields
@HogandDice
@HogandDice 5 жыл бұрын
Years ago I converted the a Nazgul on Fell Beast so that the Beast was crawling on the battlefield.
@jawa011
@jawa011 5 жыл бұрын
Finally a new start
@shotou
@shotou 5 жыл бұрын
I already have a painted Galadhrim army for this, and I've bought a Halls of Thranduil army for when the Armies of the Hobbit book drops, I guess my Rivendell War of the Ring army can work for this too, but it's not painted yet. Keen to get the two books next week, and start playing again.
@casbahowl8128
@casbahowl8128 5 жыл бұрын
Fucking yes, loved this game as a teen, glad it’s back.
@jeremyboughtono2
@jeremyboughtono2 5 жыл бұрын
The army of the dead never appeared at Pelanor thats Peter Jackson revisionism.
@Kharn121
@Kharn121 5 жыл бұрын
Which is what Games Workshop have based their LoTR games on from the beginning.....
@waynebellamy4749
@waynebellamy4749 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry yes a absolutely thriller of a comment hahaha
@darklighter66
@darklighter66 5 жыл бұрын
@Kommissar Soos Nope, they helped Aragorn to take the ships from the pirates of Umbar. Reducing reinforcements for Mordor. Aragorn gave them their Oath before setting of to Pelannor.
@ImotekhTrazyn
@ImotekhTrazyn 4 жыл бұрын
deZeen93 and aragorn came with some grey company
@majkus
@majkus 3 жыл бұрын
One Tolkien-site reviewer wrote at the time: It is a bit peculiar from a story standpoint. The presence of the Army of the Dead on the fields of Pelennor is a movie element - GW’s license is based on the movies - and even at that, they do not arrive until Théoden has departed the field, so it is a peculiar choice. I conjecture that it was an artistic and game decision. Adding their existing Knights of Dol Amroth figures would have been superfluous given the Riders of Rohan; and a bunch of Gondor regulars would perhaps have been a bit bland.
@Clewerly
@Clewerly 5 жыл бұрын
Love how Justin is saying how good the sculps are. They are over 12 years old...
@blaze8376
@blaze8376 5 жыл бұрын
They say that at 1340 you fool.
@Clewerly
@Clewerly 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah I know, I did watch it haha. My comment is more that it shows the old Perry sculpts have stood the test of time!
@my2587
@my2587 5 жыл бұрын
I always pushed my self away from this game because of the metal models.. can’t wait to begin my Rohan army !
@topperdepop
@topperdepop 5 жыл бұрын
Rohan was always primarily plastic. Only a few character models were metal, most of which are now finecast afaik. But, welcome to the game, and enjoy the Rohirrim! They are an excellent army.
@tyranid1174
@tyranid1174 5 жыл бұрын
@Richard HART Same for me I am realy want to repaint my lotr models
@Splazops
@Splazops 5 жыл бұрын
Just got back into 40k but might have to get into this
@mattygee37
@mattygee37 5 жыл бұрын
Got 3 armies for this game still buying box set though for 36 orcs and nazgul and troll plus new updated rules
@HabitualJoker
@HabitualJoker 5 жыл бұрын
Can someone explain to me why there are additional shields and weapons added? What happens if and when you want to paint these? I am just getting into this game and just bought this box.
@worldofazeroth
@worldofazeroth 2 жыл бұрын
one of the best 2 player box sets ever made
@Mailed-Knight
@Mailed-Knight 5 жыл бұрын
Ringwraiths are Nazgul, the flying thing is a Fell Beast and Uruk-Hai (which ironically means Orc-Folk) are half human.
@knightmeere1
@knightmeere1 5 жыл бұрын
Grim Knight half elf not half human.
@Mailed-Knight
@Mailed-Knight 5 жыл бұрын
It's greatly implied in The Two Towers (book) that the Uruk-Hai are result of Orcs and humans bumping uglies. Some of them are even refereed to as Goblin-Men.
@knightmeere1
@knightmeere1 5 жыл бұрын
Grim Knight you’re right my bad I’m thinking of regular orcs, those were originally elves that turned into darkness.
@Mailed-Knight
@Mailed-Knight 5 жыл бұрын
It's all good man.
@jamiesanchez8063
@jamiesanchez8063 5 жыл бұрын
I hope they've fixed the plastic on those horses. I have sixty-odd horses from the original game with broken ankles and Riders with snapped spears.
@mattward5418
@mattward5418 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys! Do you by any chance have a picture of Theoden next to an old Rider of Rohan for scale please? Many thanks 👍
@GodsUnitedGamers
@GodsUnitedGamers 5 жыл бұрын
Do you need to glue them or just click them together?
@rickhudson7929
@rickhudson7929 5 жыл бұрын
Great video- very informative. Damnit! You've talked be into spending £90 ! ;-)
@AIMInvestorJournal
@AIMInvestorJournal 2 жыл бұрын
You can see Sam wanting to correct Justin after slating the old Witch-king on Fellbeast miniature, not realising it was a metal tail joint and much more durable than this here new version. Such a good model!
@mcrawford67
@mcrawford67 5 жыл бұрын
Any word when the Armies of the Hobbit rulebook is coming out? I heard it mentioned in an interview with someone at GW but only the Lord of the Rings Army Book is up for preorder.
@spartan117533
@spartan117533 5 жыл бұрын
A month or 2 away i heard
@BamAoD1
@BamAoD1 5 жыл бұрын
Might finally start my Haradrim force..
@teppest111
@teppest111 5 жыл бұрын
I miss the old Mithril minis back in the day
@emperorschampion8293
@emperorschampion8293 5 жыл бұрын
nazgul are the 9 kings, including the witch king that were given rings, not the fellbeast.
@radeadcool
@radeadcool 5 жыл бұрын
There the same plastic molds for the models from 2002 not sure they price increases.
@jaycewilkinson6221
@jaycewilkinson6221 5 жыл бұрын
Film Monk Productions they increased the price from 25 dollars to 40 but they doubled the models. And they lowered he prices of all the cavalry to $32
@radeadcool
@radeadcool 5 жыл бұрын
not in Australia they didnt lol
@Domobomb
@Domobomb 5 жыл бұрын
In 2002 a standard 24 mini pack was $20. Today it's $50. 150% increase in 16 years. Canadian prices.
@wolfandfx8846
@wolfandfx8846 4 жыл бұрын
How big are the miniatures? 28mm?are they compatible with wizkids and reaper bones miniatures?
@TheOppl
@TheOppl 4 жыл бұрын
They are true-scale rather than typical Heroics. The newer plastics (of which in this box Theoden is) have slightly larger features though as they're not from the old sculptors. Generally, LOTR models don't go well with traditional Heroic 28mm war-game miniatures. Think of it like a FW Death Korps of Krieg alongside a Cadian.
@hippyjodorowsky8102
@hippyjodorowsky8102 5 жыл бұрын
Gw have bloated the amount of models in the normal boxes, so overall the game is better value
@Domobomb
@Domobomb 5 жыл бұрын
They just brought it back to what it was before the cut the models. It always used to be 20/24 models in a box.
@irvinev
@irvinev 5 жыл бұрын
All ready preordered :)
@ArdaconInternationalMedia
@ArdaconInternationalMedia 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Vicky! Hope you're well :)
@LordHarryBo
@LordHarryBo 4 жыл бұрын
Not sure how effective horse archers are? The Parthians would like a word with you.
@TheEldarGuy
@TheEldarGuy 5 жыл бұрын
The miniatures game was my number 1 game for many years, it was a hard game to get others to play. Back in the day price point was exceptional and the quality was leaps and bounds over standard GW product. 25AUD for 24 models back at the beginning, now it's 70AUD for the same box set. 16 years of inflation and general increases, that's probably about right. Previously, the actors signed off on the character molds, the studio had to sign off on rights, and the Tolkein estate had to agree. All of this, plus the low model count for a standard game gave GW coniptions. It's great that the game has returned, 250AUD for standard box, and I think there's an army list book being released also.
@1xoACEox1
@1xoACEox1 4 жыл бұрын
Lotr was always a skirmish game that they turned into a big army game. But they never streamlined the rules so it was a slow laborious mess. Works infinitely better with war band. Or, how it was intended, scenarios with the fellowship.
@cd91x28
@cd91x28 4 жыл бұрын
Is this game good for beginners? Never played anything like this before but am interested. Didnt know if it might be quite daunting to get on board with all of the rules.
@DannySisto
@DannySisto 3 жыл бұрын
The basic rules are pretty simple. The complexity in this game comes mainly from heroic actions and model placement.
@TwistedMind86Chern
@TwistedMind86Chern 5 жыл бұрын
The minis are the same but more expensive than the minis they released in 2002 !
@bennconner1195
@bennconner1195 3 жыл бұрын
Could you make the Mordor troll into a cave troll?
@Bdknotts09
@Bdknotts09 5 жыл бұрын
Where do you go to preorder this game? How much is this set?
@adammitchell5518
@adammitchell5518 5 жыл бұрын
You can pre-order off Games Workshop or your FLGS and it costs £90
@Syko1985
@Syko1985 5 жыл бұрын
Justin wasn't haven't a good day during this video, pretty much everything he was saying he got wrong lol i feel sam should have done this on his own.
@jamesdelahaye4454
@jamesdelahaye4454 5 жыл бұрын
I agree. He seems like he was in a bad mood and found the negative in everything.
@legoferdinand2183
@legoferdinand2183 2 жыл бұрын
They have a Mordor Troll
@NeoConNET7
@NeoConNET7 4 жыл бұрын
Do Strontium Dog unboxing next.
@joshwrt2029
@joshwrt2029 5 жыл бұрын
Why are people acting like they are new products?! Haha these minis have been around for ages right?
@ratelmike8825
@ratelmike8825 5 жыл бұрын
Not always in plastic
@Mabufu381
@Mabufu381 5 жыл бұрын
@@ratelmike8825 the only new model in this kit is theoden, every other model is a repackage of a plastic kit that you can buy seperately, its just really good value if you want two starting forces and want to recreate this specific battle.
@ratelmike8825
@ratelmike8825 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Efreet. This game is very new to me never played before but it looks right up my alley. I would like to expand strictly from the starter set, what would you say are the best expansion kits to go with for both Rohan, which is my go to good side, and the evil side?
@joshwrt2029
@joshwrt2029 5 жыл бұрын
Scholarian I was talking about the video man. You’d think Justin would do some research before doing a show haha Must admit I thought the hobbit game was naff. Glad people are getting back into it, not so pleased that GW are repackaging some products and charging more. Remember when you used to get 24 warriors of Rohan In a box? Now you only get 12 for the same price haha
@dominicbeese-raybould8480
@dominicbeese-raybould8480 5 жыл бұрын
Ratel Mike For Rohan I would start with Eomer, Eowyn and Erkenbrand, that gives you a decent number of powerful heroes to play with. They need some warriors to lead so I would also get 12 more riders, a banner bearer, a box of warriors on foot and some royal guard, foot and mounted. After that you can go wild with Gamling, outriders, Sons of Eorl and what ever else strikes your fancy. For the evil side, get a Witch-King on foot as you’ll need one to play the Witch-King in points match games, then get some extra Morannon orc captains (if you’re willing to wait there is a new blister coming from Forge World that has 2 named captains in it). After that you can do what you like with more named heroes such as the mouth of Sauron, or other Nazgul, as well as some elite troops such as the Black Numenoreans or some Black Guards of Barad-Dur. Or if you’re really feeling wild you could get the big man himself.
@spocksleftball
@spocksleftball 5 жыл бұрын
The chemistry between the presenters isn't helping sell the kit. It is obvious the beard guy doesn't give a fig about it.
@DavidSmith-te9gg
@DavidSmith-te9gg 5 жыл бұрын
Did Justin actually get anything correct in this?
@OnTableTop
@OnTableTop 5 жыл бұрын
I think he got the show correct.
@garethmason7920
@garethmason7920 5 жыл бұрын
Are we still waiting for the Armies of the Hobbit to be released ?
@waynebellamy4749
@waynebellamy4749 5 жыл бұрын
Song of ice and fire for me just my opinion guys .I thought this failed first Time around when gw release it ???
@Sacrilege83
@Sacrilege83 5 жыл бұрын
It failed so much that GW created a crappier version of it: Age of Sigmar.
@scatterthewinds3126
@scatterthewinds3126 2 жыл бұрын
The best game GW has ever made.
@elizabethlestrad5282
@elizabethlestrad5282 5 жыл бұрын
I've always been curious that when you have games like Imperial Assault, Time of Legends, and Mythic Battles, Armada, X Wing, Dust Warfare, etc, why so many companies insist on going with sprues rather than a single mold. I just don't believe that's seriously cheaper. Especially when you compare, say, a 10 man Space Marine Tactical Squad ($65) or a big box expansion for Imperial Assault like Return to Hoth that has 15 minis and a large vehicle for $50 (plus cards, boards, tokens, etc).
@chrisebz6473
@chrisebz6473 5 жыл бұрын
In the case of space Marines, they come with options during assembly as opposed to the games you mentioned with single mold where they come one way. Also depends on the material used and casting/molding process for the materials. Companies that use the same plastic as gw (warlord, battlefront, fireforge etc..) put them out on sprues because it's easiest for that material, and most of the time lots of bits and options. Imperial assault comes single pose because it's a boardgame and the minis are PVC, and it's what you see is what you get. Fallout ww uses PVC in it's starter but uses resin on "sprues" for everything else. FFG's runewars and legion come in pieces . Dust also has options for unassembled kits, their primed kits they've just done assembly for you. I can get a box of 40 Russians on sprue with extra bits for bolt action for 30-40 usd, a box of fireforge 12 foot knights for 30 or 48 men at arm's for 40-50 usd for the hoth expansion example you used which is 40-50 USD. It's down to the type of game, material used, and intended audience.
@BrokenBeats94
@BrokenBeats94 Жыл бұрын
So pissed when this was a year ago for like £70 and now it’s sold on eBay £200 upwards
@kriegg01
@kriegg01 5 жыл бұрын
hammering? all i heard was war drums. in the deep.....
@shaundaly1134
@shaundaly1134 5 жыл бұрын
The country is Rohan. Its people are "The Rohirrim". As for Horse Archery have you never heard of "parting shot"? Its a derivative of "Parthian Shot". Horse Archers have wiped out many foot Armies over history.
@DannySisto
@DannySisto 3 жыл бұрын
Rohirrim actually only refers to the mounted warriors of Rohan. It's not a catch all term for any citizen of Rohan.
@shaundaly1134
@shaundaly1134 3 жыл бұрын
@@DannySisto Rohirrim is Sindarin for People of the Horse-lords (sometimes translated simply as Horse-lords) and are mostly used by outsiders: the name they had for themselves are Eorlingas, after their king Eorl the Young who had first brought them to Rohan. Rohirrim is a collective noun, and when used grammatically as a subject or object is usually used with the definite article (i.e. the Rohirrim). It can also be used as an adjective to modify another noun (e.g., a Rohirrim village, a troop of Rohirrim cavalry, etc.) The pure adjectival form, meaning "pertaining to the Rohirrim," is Rohirric (Rohirric tactics, Rohirric culture, etc.)
@phantomshamrock4
@phantomshamrock4 5 жыл бұрын
the shield is only for isenguard...
@DominusRexDK
@DominusRexDK 5 жыл бұрын
they got nice big pegs on them.... just me?
@Salty_Sassenach
@Salty_Sassenach 2 жыл бұрын
If the 65k people here brought this box set at £95 that's £6,175,000 alone.
@justsometimber1nthelake873
@justsometimber1nthelake873 4 жыл бұрын
00:03 *the definition of nerd*
@sblibs
@sblibs 2 жыл бұрын
Love seeing all the nerds in the comment section arguing. Also them losing their temper over the fact the beard guy mispronounced something
@simp2935
@simp2935 5 жыл бұрын
All the same molds as they did years ago just doubled the prices of the originals... Nice one GW
@alexanderperry1721
@alexanderperry1721 5 жыл бұрын
Hi, You were lucky then. In Aus not only did we get a price creep for the box but along the way the number of models in the box was halved. So a double hit. Who can remember getting a box of 24 warriors for $27 dollars. I know of so many Aus who import GW stuff from US or UK as it was cheaper than getting it locally. ps the original box game was only $85,, those were the days....
@simp2935
@simp2935 5 жыл бұрын
Hi, FYI the new box set in Aus is $250 AUD. Just checked GW Canada and its $180 CAD. your dollar is not that much better than the AUD.. so just GW ripping off the folks downunder. It may just have been an Aus thing but GW certainly did not do itself any favors with its pricing back when the game was just kidding off all those years ago.
@matthewhotston4287
@matthewhotston4287 5 жыл бұрын
It always annoyed me that if you want to do a massive battle, multi base the figures and make a new set of rules and don't over price the figure!!!
@Silent82Hill
@Silent82Hill 5 жыл бұрын
one question - made in China?
@XpVersusVista
@XpVersusVista 2 жыл бұрын
Pelennor, not Pelendor. ffs
@sblibs
@sblibs 2 жыл бұрын
Calm down
@TheHammondEggs
@TheHammondEggs 5 жыл бұрын
“Witch king on his nazgul”.....🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
@phantomshamrock4
@phantomshamrock4 5 жыл бұрын
witch king on the nazgul.... Cringe...
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