And yet Joe is significantly better and has won more?

​@@captainyami4605 still you gotta admit burrow isn't as durable as it may have seemed. Tho tua's injuries are head related so they seem like a bigger issue.

That is crazy

@@theape6778burrow takes way more hits than tua n dam near any qb in the nfl that’s the problem

@@captainyami4605significantly better? idk about all that

Facts!

Why would he worry about a Running Back ???

Why ? Joe’s proven he can beat Mahomes lol

Joe's been to a super bowl Lamar needs to worry about that at least joe can say he has beat pat

Dirty birds in a dirty city

Finally! A sensible Bengals fan

Facts

Agreed. And unlike the Chiefs/Bills rivalry, the Chiefs vs. Bengals feels like a street fight where the outcome feels like a coin flip.

@@andrewchiu6226 don’t forget the AFC championship game two years ago you can clearly see that the refs were trying to give it to the Chiefs the bangles do you get robbed a game just being honest not a fan of either team but I like Joe Burrow and I like Patrick Mahomes. I can’t draw my turn on vibes from Joe Burrow for some odd reason. I don’t mind seeing either team when I live in upstate New York and I can’t stand the bills or the fans I watch this previous Super Bowl with my best friends family and it was just horrible lol. The whole game all they kept saying was how they hate patch Mahomes Joe Burrow hell even Eli Manning and I’m a Giants fan smh…

​@@marcusgilmore5211stop it, give up the BS about the refs handing Patrick Mahomes the game in the AFC Championship game. It was a good game it was a close game all the way down to the line. The difference in that game was you had a Bengals player take a cheap shot out of bounds, it was a penalty no matter who was playing quarterback. And if you want to blame it on anybody you blame it on that player or you blame it on the coaching staff for not having a disciplined team😂

Facts

People would put Shanahan ahead of him. Andy has only been to one Super Bowl

No shit. They just started a dynasty

Only a casual would say that. People did consider Reid one of the Goats before that

Cut out the Eagles from his resume completely and he’s a HOFer lol

lol it’s crazy but in reality it’s just people have nothing bad to say about Mahomes so the only negative they can say is he beat Mahomes once in the playoffs 😂😂😂 it’s embarrassing

​@@DecentpainI swear tbh burrow biggest accomplishment was beating kc and getting to the SB he never won an mvp but just beating oat is the greatest accomplishment of all time for burrow lol it will be Josh allen SB if one day he beats pat 🤣

nobody high off that. Burrow has had 2 healthy seasons in the NFL and both those seasons he took the Bengals to the AFCCG and once to the Superbowl. That is extremely impressive and that is why debates like this take place. When he was healthy for a short span this season the Bengals immediately went on a 4 game winning streak against top teams Seahawks, Bills, 9ers etc

@@FrigidHeightsyou could also use that same argument and say the ravens have always been 1st place in the AFC north when Lamar is healthy and the bengals might’ve gotten a break that he got hurt in 21 and 22 to get the afc north title

You make football fans look stupid. Take off your fandom for one sec and look at it in a vacuum. Burrow in the two years he's been healthy went to back to back AFC championships with the worst pass blocking oline twice. He doing it with a solid defense with Eli apple as a starting corner and an inexperienced head coach in comparison to someone like Andy Reid. Regardless of any player comparison you truly cannot pick another qb in these circumstances to accomplish what burrow did in the history of the nfl. Not everyone can be a gifted like Mahomes and go to a 12 win team with a borderline hall of fame coach prior to his recent success in Andy Reid and a patient Pro Bowl qb willing to help develop the rookie in Alex Smith. Hell Patrick Mahomes has had top ten oline for every while Burrow been behind a line that's never even cracked the top 15. But oh yes we are all delusional because I have the mental capacity to be able to acknowledge qb outside our favorite teams. Goofy

Facts. Everyone always forgets that.

thats normally how it happens rookie

So true. Same thing about Kelce. Nice TE but mercurial and little post season success.

That’s not true people was saying that in Philly or maybe it was just us 🤷🏿‍♂️

Andy used to be talk about the same way people talk about Marv Levy, who is in the Hall of Fame. Also Jim Kelly was a way better QB than McNabb. Andy is top 5 for regular season winning percentage ( with 100 wins ), and will likely pass Belichick for playoff wins next year. Even if you flipped all three SB wins to losses, he is still top 4 in every other way we measure coaches.

@@JohnClarkW No one considered Andy Reid as one of the greats when he was fired from Philly. He went 4-12 in his last year. Marv Levy is known to be a great coach but never is brought up in the greatest of all time conversation. Winning a Super Bowl separates coaches. Marv Levy and Bill Cowher have similar coaching records but Bill Cowher is considered the better coach because he won a Super Bowl.

Yup. Toughest, most physical division in football. Big Ben in his prime was the perfect prototype to survive against all those defenses.

​@@andrewchiu6226The Chiefs would blow right through your division.😅

@@michaeldehass8626 Chiefs can blow through the first division ever where all teams finished with a winning record, with three teams finishing the season with backup QBs? Meanwhile Chiefs were the only team in their division to finish with winning record and Chiefs were only 4-2 in the division. Average of every AFC divisions record: North 0.632 East 0.485 South 0.480 West 0.471 Sure, Chiefs would walk through AFC North, which is the toughest division by a mile, when they can't walk through the worst division in the conference....

As he should.

He nearly beat Mahomes and the Chiefs in the playoffs again two seasons ago. And he’s been beating them in the season. Joe Burrow and the Bengals are the biggest threat to the Chiefs in the AFC.

​@trueempire8948 in the game of football what does "nearly" beat somebody

​@@johnnybuchananjr9344 they got an almost superbowl Ring also😂😂😂

Joe isn’t living off anything the media is living off it lol

@@trueempire8948the bengals are good no doubt they have great weapons and play great defense against Mahomes but the chiefs are the biggest threat to the chiefs. Lou anarumo has Pat’s number

It can for Burrow because Burrow actually owns Mahomes in head to head match ups. Allen however has never beaten Mahomes. Problem is Burrow can't stay healthy. If healthy I truly believe Patrick wouldn't have a 3rd ring because Burrow would have beaten him again

@@christopherroberts8530 stop 😂

@@christopherroberts8530 Joe is three super bowls behind. No he can't

@@christopherroberts8530delusional. Josh Allen has looked better in losses to the Chiefs than Joe Burrow has in his wins against the Chiefs

@@christopherroberts8530 Well, here in a little place I like to call "reality" Burrow is 0-1 in Super Bowls while Mahomes is 3-1. Fun fact, no starting QB from 2023 under the age of 36 (other than Mahomes) has won a Super Bowl...

Bro joe came in 2020 lamar in 2018 and joe is still older then lamar you talk like they where in the same draft class...pat is year and half older then lamar

@@angelopinagomes1591 And? Are you agreeing with me? I can't tell if you're being argumentative or not. A year and a half is very close in age. Mahomes still has 3 mote super bowls than both of them combined. You're right though. I'm sure they'll make up the difference in a year to year and a half 🤣

@@dylanflynn5846 bro i dont think you understand what they where talking about...mahomes came in 2017..lamar in 2018 and joe in 2020 and still joe is older then lamar and only 9 months younger then mahomes..and both of them have accompl or won more then joe..and people keep talking about joe like he is some young qb on the come up..

@@angelopinagomes1591 OK so you agree with me then. Why did you come at me so argumentative for? Joe and lamar are relatively the same age as mahomes but people think they're babies compared to him. No Patrick just accomplished a hall of fame career worth of accolades in his short career already.

@@dylanflynn5846 my bad i miss read it then...not only pat also lamar..2 mvp's 2 allpro 3 probowls in 6 years that is already hof carrière he only needs a superbowl...

What I came to say...I don't want NUNNA dat what Ocho smokin😂😂

Facts. People discredit mahomes for his SB loss, yet when burrow loses the SB they all glaze the guy💀😂. It’s ridiculous these narratives. No one in the league is comparable to pat rn

@@nomarxistspls90people glaze burrow because hes been to back to back afc championships in his 2 healthy seasons🤡

@@realngga0 ok? What did he win? Mahomes has been in the afc championship every year as a starter. Burrow has a td/int ratio of 3/3 in those games. The reason they even beat the chiefs is their defense… Burrow is injury prone and lost the Super Bowl with the best WR core in the nfl. He’s not even better than Lamar or allen never mind Pat. 1x Pro bowler LMAO🤣🤣🤣🤣 Pats 2018 season alone clears that frauds entire career

@@nomarxistspls90 superbowl in his first year starting then back to the afc championship with the worst oline in the nfl and a mediocre one.. he has more playoff wins than lamar 🤡 and beat allen and pat u goofies are hilarious

@@realngga0we don’t celebrate participation trophies That means Lamar and Allen also been to afc title game

Absolutely not

The amount of credit people refuse to give Spags and his defense is wild.

@@zackhurwitz9441 He seemed to get his due this time around. No other assistant coach has won four Super Bowls. That is pretty crazy.

@@zackhurwitz9441who you give the credit to when that defense was trash?

⁠@@kcmo8164Exactly these fools swear Spags has been a lock down DC the previous 5 years. The man was giving up 25 ppg in the playoffs for 5 years with a QB that practically never puts them in bad field positions.

Patrick's just that dude, i wasn't rooting for either team but at the end of the 3rd quater i saw that look in his eyes and knew he was gonna step it up himself.

Look at Dan Marino everyone said he’s going to be back

Exactly! Burrow won't see another AFC Championship game!

Yea yea yea . Joe ended the Bengals playoff drought too. Joe doesn't care about your trash stats & curses

@@ShinefortheCam not a curse its a stats..i dont remember joe wining a superbowl and dont remember him going back to one after he lost..

Not to mention Goff at 2-0... he's one of the greatest of all time too!

Beating Mahomes in the playoffs is a bit different though isn’t it? Brady and Burrow are the only 2 quarterbacks to ever do it

@@FrigidHeights yeah but they’re 1-1. Theres no point in mentioning the regular season matchups. 3-1 is over blown like crazy

@@captainyami4605 I agree with you

Burrow had 90seconds and 2 timeouts, just needing a field goal to send it in to OT against the Rams and couldn't get it done. Mahomes, the exact same thing against the Niners and got the job done. No comparison!

I think it’s time to stop comparing active quarterbacks to Patty..his only competition right resides in Canton o4 on their way..the ultimate gate keeper right now

Let's also not forget that Joe Burrow beat him the year before on the way to the Super Bowl 😮

“1 Leg” He had virtually zero mobility restrictions in that game. They overplayed the crap out of that injury. He was scrambling and running absolutely fine all game. Got bailed by an after play penalty to win the game lol

@@marcmayhem0412 you notice I said AND won the Super Bowl… if you’re just happy to get there though that’s great, well done 😅

Bengal fans will hold on to that 2021 AFC Championship win at KC cause they got nothing else. AT ALL.

Me too, live in Kansas but from Milwaukee. Agreed about Pat and look forward to Love potentially meeting him in the “THE GUY” category!

Facts if you couldn’t beat this year when will you

It is what it is at this point. If I were one of those guys, I'd go to an NFC team, Joe, Lamar or Allen could at least get to the dance

Idk, man, if Allen had a healthy defense he mightve beat him. Idk tho

Burrow has beaten him. Let’s not forget the year before the Bangles went to the superbow, KC got blown out against the Bucs in the SB

@@MichaelJrCortesbro, how many times has mahomes went to the bowl? Just because burrow beat mahomes and went to a bowl does not mean he’s better. Joe Flacco beat Brady to go to the bowl, is Flacco better than Brady?

Talkin a lot of bullshit 2 🥴😂😂😂

That because is talking about his bum team the Bengals.

We were terrible for the last 50 years before Andy tf you mean

@@lars8319 please reread what I said. I didn’t bring up Andy one time

@@damiactivateshis comment wasn’t insinuating that you did bring up Andy Reid, it simply implied that the chiefs were terrible before Andy Reid

Yeah I am just saying that we were terrible before Andy got there. A narrative of even choking playoff games has been around since the 90s. But we only had a handful of chances in the playoffs before Andy anyway. @@damiactivates

Joe Montana got kc to conf chip

It’s over with for bengals … they had the best WR core in the league … literally had 2 WR1s lol they have to pay Higgins and chase now sooooo 😢😢😢

But 1 was his appendix what can U do to help that? Just weird things, non contact, in practice injury, he needs TB12 to help with being acidic

Bro he went to the superbowl his first full year starting.

Joe Gibbs took Washington to the Superbowl with different quarterbacks. I think that is what you mean

Calm down lol 🤣🤣🤣 This ain't Madden franchise mode

I agree 3 Superbowl wins in a row how about 5 or 6

@@goldteethpoohproductions2707technically is for us🤷🏽

@@goldteethpoohproductions2707 maybe not for y’all 😂😂

@@KingLuka2212 negative lol 🤣🤣

Pat has been injured almost every year, but the KEY difference is that he's never missed massive time or been out for the season like Burrow or Lamar, outside of the two games he missed in 2019 for the dislocated kneecap. And despite this he still keeps winning and stacking up accomplishments.

@nicolasmartinez795 oh sorry, that changes everything hahaha

**crickets**

They wont😂 if we being honest the. Second best qb after mahomes is lamar

​@@RobertJohnson-zk1yeI'd have to take Josh Allen. Lamar is probably 3rd. Reason being playoff performance. As turnover prone as Allen is, he scored at a historic clip to this point, and usually cleans up his play in the post season. Lamar is elite, and I'll defend that point, but he hasn't been a good playoff QB.

@@zackhurwitz9441Josh Allen over Lamar??? Lmao stop it

@GDBwrld kinda notice how Jackson and Mahomes aren't good enough bu Allen and Burrow ARE! YEEEEAH WE SEE HOW THAT GOES LIKE ALWAYS

😂😂😂😂

😂😂😂 “ his style of play “ that man just fragile.

Mahomes style of play is way riskier

its oline! his style of play fine

I can tell y’all don’t watch Joe Burrow at all. He holds onto the ball far too long and it’s not always his offensive line’s fault.

You almost got the point but missed the mark superbowl wins are a team statement just like all wins to use them to say analyze how great someone is wrong

Imma say this as a CHARGERS FAN. Patrick Mahomes and the chiefs run the NFL right now point blank period I call them the Kansas City Patriots 😂 but.... I agree with you this shouldn't be a discussion cuz Pat has 3 titles to burrows 0. But in 2 of his healthy seasons out of 4 he's been to two adc championship games and beat Mahomes on the road in one of them and lost the other by a FG . We can't act like he just is not no competition HE JUST GOTTA STAY HEALTHY PERIOD.

@@goldteethpoohproductions2707dude made of glass. And they say lamar cant stay healthy 😂

Bungles fans acting as if LOSING a Super Bowl is an accomplishment…🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 They fr a poverty franchise

​@@Tay-vr3be Cool. Mahomes 2 MVPs, Burrow 0. Am I doing it right?

Main part is healthy

50% on 4 seasons injury wise is concerning and that o line ain’t good still

This the comment!!!

Dude is humpty dumpty😂

@@waynearrington7240 😂😂😂😭😭

It's just proof that mahomes is in a different tier. David is a legend for defeating the Goliath once. We are the Bengals Goliath. Except we didn't stay down.

Pandering to that Cinsecurity fanbase is just standing on podcast biz.

They suck lol

who dey

To be fair, Burrow pretty much has the best case to go next year after Mahomes next year. When healthy he has been to a super bowl, and came within a few plays of another. The only realistic knock is whether he can stay on the field.

To be honest Carson Palmer fits too…

@@q-j-p tru dat. almost forgot Carson Palmer. 2 injuries wrecked him.

Hey man you hit the nail on the head with this one. Big facts!!!!

mahomes is only one year older then him

He still had a extra 3 years to accomplish things

​@@Goldkingcoleexactly

That’s because Mahomes was good enough to leave as jr, and Joe was a 5th year senior when he left.

​@@Goldkingcole Ok then just compare their first 4 years, oh shit Mahomes still clears

I was feeling his frustration with Ocho not quite getting the point. And Lamar shouldn’t have been MVP, much less nearly unanimous. Should have been Reek or CMC.

Marty Schottenheimer was considered one of the greatest coaches without a Superbowl appearance. I hated that Shannon use the Hall of Fame when his coach isn't in it with 2 rings while namath is in the hall when he wasn't ever one of the greatest.

Stop holding on to the damn ball so long😂.

@@Bootyeater999 lol that’s not what’s been happening..

@@BrodyB1203not cap if he would take his check downs more often. He wouldn’t get sacked as much. That’s a fact. His oline has definitely been bad. But it’s not all on them. He needs to realize every throw doesn’t need to be a home run.

He’s literally not on track lol his one accomplishment is losing the SB. If you wanna give him another accomplishment, it’s winning a couple games against Mahomes 😮‍💨 Not saying he isn’t an elite talent, but talent doesn’t get you to the Hall. Longevity and accomplishments do. He hasn’t shown the ability to have the longevity so far, and has no accomplishments beyond LSU, except a SB loss.

Bengals weren't even supposed to be there

​@@dropssky Sounds like something a fan of a franchise with 0 championships would say

Thank you for posting this. Most people are forgetting just how difficult that division is. The North is nothing to play with and if Pitt gets Russ, then the Bengals are 3rd best.

Not so much even if they finish 3rd the division they still make the playoffs..And nobody should trust browns or Ravens in the playoffs. Burrow with a bad line was more competitive than both.

@@shaunp8534 If they finish third, then they are fighting for a playoff spot with Bills/Miami, Houston/Jags, Chargers/Raiders.

They’ve only been good for 3 years & last year they where plagued with injuries

@@kenyatta5ttconjohnsoentcr589every team has injuries, Mahomes won Superbowl on one leg🤣 Thuney, Omenihu, Cook out this season.

@kenyatta5ttconjohnsoentcr589 hell they didnt won it dont count just like they do the Chiefs😅🤣🤣🤣

You hate the fact the he’s been more injured more than Lamar facts . He lost and you and others praise him for losing . Lamar has two mvp you hate that don’t you , I rather to the more healthier player with 2 mvp. over more injured that has one 5 playoff games

He also said 2x 1st team all pro which is strictly voted on by the Coaches and Players so….now what?

Dude Burrow is fragile and you’re talking playoff wins but no chips regardless. Also, Lamar owns Burrow and the Bengals 90% of the time. The Chiefs are really the only team that can brag right now.

@@Clark1748 you do know there's only 1 1st team all pro QB right?

@@jrcrit8843joe has more playoff wins than lamar in 2 seasons 🤣🤡🤡

Because of Drew Brees he got a vote in

Lamar's 2019 MVP was 100% deserved . '23 is a different story. If the award had to go to a QB, it should have been CJ Stroud. Name a QB that did more with less.

I didn't say winning mvp wasn't deserved. I said the fact that he got a unanimous votes for a 3,127 yards (even if you include rushing its only 4300 yards) and 36 touchdowns, But Mahomes didn't get unani9mous votes for a season that only 2 prior qbs had ever achieved (50tds 5kyards passing alone) is silly@@zackhurwitz9441

Mahomes should've won unanimous in 22. He was untouchable that year

They compare Mahomes to how he's done in the past instead of what he did that season or comparead to others up for the award.

Joe Burrow is 29-22. No slander, straight facts

he's already known as fragile and less successful and everyone acknowledges that. proof Jackson= 2x mvp Burrow=0x mvp...what are you on?

No rings for burrow… 3 for mahomes. That’s the point

Then lost the Super Bowl no credibility

Nah the refs beat Mahomes. And he got beat by Karma via injury.

Allen is 3-1 against mahomes in normal season no one care mahomes is 3-3 against brady no one care

Ur point is so stupid the man has 3 rings

If the shoe fits…

He haven’t been to a sb yet & he played more years then all QBs,;he’s a mistake bound to happen in big games

I'm off on the Josh Allen hype train he showed me who he is. He still got those Wyoming bad habits

Stop making excuses

​@@mikem4481 Nobody is making excuses but why do we have to tear everybody down just to say Patrick Mahomes is the best QB right now? Nobody has done anything Patrick Mahomes has done, there can only be 1

@@shaolinshefgaming400didn’t people tear cam and Lamar down because they haven’t one . Why is it different for Joe ?

Mahomes? You mean the most successful dude for his career period thus far of all time? Get Joe Burrow the fuck out of the conversation.

​@@DrTurkMD couldn't have said it better

Nearly beat what does that get you

@@johnnybuchananjr9344Clown it proves that he can beat him and he already has. Something no other QB in the AFC besides the goat Tom Brady and the Patriots in the AFC Championship game in 2019.

The Bengals beating the Chiefs when it matters train pulled out of the station last year. Ain’t coming back.

@@trueempire8948yet he couldn’t beat the rams… Look at burrows playoff stats, he’s not the reason they won games, their defense is. He is honestly so overrated it’s insane. Allen and Lamar are both better than burrow and even those two are not close to Pat

@@nomarxistspls90👈 Bot Troll.

He was healthy in 2022 😂💀

But the last time they played KC beat Burrow "Smoking on that Burrow tonight" 🚬

So you agree that Lamar is number 2 QB in the league? You said because he’s beaten in the regular season so I’m saying Lamar has 2 regular seasons MVPs

That a wild statement to say he's the only one. Give Allen the bengal defense in those playoffs runs and he wins both games comfortably. Burrow played average at best in both matchups and the defense was key driving force for why they won in the 1st AFC Championship. The fact that Burrow had 3 TDs/ 3 INTs in those two matchups and still went 1-1, while Allen has 7 TDs/ 0 INTs and is 0 -2 in the last two against KC says alot about the help each gets (or lack) from their team.

@@Invader135give it a rest man. Allen had the number 1 defense in the league in the 13 seconds game. Allen and burrow no where near mahomes

Eagles been to the Super Bowl before that, Bengals had not just having yo team make it for the first time is special for fans

No he's not lol

Beat Mahomes in Mahomes’ worst playoff game performance ever. Ehh

Lol

In the playoffs Joe Burrow is 5-2 Lamar Jackson is 2-4 🎤 drop

Damn