Rogue players are consistently wrong on how to play their chosen deck optimally

Yu-Gi-Oh players are nothing if not bad at Yu-Gi-Oh

Honestly I would still play it at one its good and free removal into disruption

@@rachezwill473 and it recycles your links

He isn't right, you still play it.

I've seen various lists without it, i think mostly because if you draw it, it just sita there so they'd rather have stuff that actually does something

@@GiafyViews It's good enough when you lose die roll that It's worth occasionally opening it going 1st. You get it out your hand with the first Abominable activation.

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I can. He calls his "Soul of Dogshit" and rightfully so. If he has an excuse to not play him, he will and he should. #cancelthedog

Except the rota is 25

​@@lazavphenax4541nvm then

I got my ass beat by it at locals so i would say so

​@@cosmo_cat64what were you on?

@@rebound1340 I was playing libromancer,i bricked super hard after he kaiju'd my boss monster

It's not as bad as a base line on changing the Deck to be more pure than most lists. The Ghostrick one, that one was not even ghostrick, it's literally just adventure rank 3 turbo

TRUE and REAL

"MBT will now be a slur in the Unchained community"

What’s wrong with the list?

@@Raminator243 Tour guide, not playing disaster, cutting important engine (rakea and the traps are 3 ofs and sarama is a 2 of), you don't play wailing, especially not if it replaces any unchained card. This is only part of how crap it is.

You lose a ton of interaction burning Yamas GY effect turn 1

I like the play, but I think instead of yama's effect to revive you keep him in grave and use Aruha to summon the other red dog from deck with escape set, so you can play around evenly matched

Playing him is the disaster 💀

You still play him.

Your not the only one 😭

I'm asking to my self, why the fuck he play only 2x of the traps, 1x sarama, rakea e disaster ☠️, i also tried a version with tour guide but it is just awful.

it's not far off the winning decklists, MBT was just ahead of his time

All these months later and MBT predicted it

Still find it goofy, you dunce?

I like abom at one since any other card can usually extend and it can be searched, I think playing to many aboms could make you brick easier also wailing is helpful at breaking boards going second but I completely agree on cutting the tour guide engine to go for more unchained, you have way more ressources too, in this meta where a lot of macro effects are played you need to have ways to recover and the more twins you have the more recovery your deck has

​@@rachezwill473You would never play 3 abom, but at 2 you'll basically never brick on it (there's like a 1% chance you draw both, and you'll still have 3 other cards in hand) and it has so much utility thanks to being able to chainblock your floats, break boards, extend, and just be a 3000 attack body that I think it's worth playing 2.

@@bencrandall-malcolm8303 yea that's a valid point I still like it at one

I'll fight on the tour guide point; while it does eat handtraps, unchained has decent ways to extend through both reds. It gives significantly more advantage than normal unchained and allows follow up if you add a single garnet. It's pretty much "want a volatile but strong deck? run it. Want consistency? boost twin ratios." I'm kind of 50/50 on it

Tour Guide at 3 AND Rakea at 3 is probably good enough though. I quite like Spirit of Malice and the other one as Tour Guide targets.

Finally someone says it it's removal effect is really useful it should be at least at one

it's hardly even a brick when you can still summon it a retrain it

The effect is very good but it’s does not eclipse how awful it is drawing that card.

​@@Eric.mov_same with lovely labrynth

@@lz9275at least with lovely it’s discard fodder for furniture, this thing is so incredibly hard to get out of the hand

Except this time is somehow the opposite scenario, where MBT refuses to play a good list rather than one that "doesn't do enough archetype things" or whatever tf the Ghostrick discord was up in arms about

This might be worse than that tbh. This list looks like a redditor made it

@@PrinceDarkLothoslist is fine, what’s the issue?

@@Eric.mov_ no disaster, 1 rakea, 2 of the traps, wailing, extra doesn't need any DDDs par the rank6, tour guide is not the best card and personally I think it should be always 2 sarama but I can get behind playing 1

@@PrinceDarkLothos when you play tour guide you don’t run multiple names. If you’re trying to keep the list at 40 you tend to cut one chamber. The additional DDDS are options beyond the rank 6. Wailing I’m iffy on but personally I like the idea of something that target destroys that is easier to trigger. The deck doesn’t have a lot beside AUS. ALSO the dog is terrible to draw. While the effect is good drawing it is by far even worse.

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You’ll be happy to know you still run him and that MBT’s list is bad.

I did a double take I promise you like 6 yugioh fans understood that reference

Yeah I agree, one Raeka and one Abom main is brow raising too. I would get rid of wailing and the one of call by for the two of those. Maybe even get rid of the nibs for more trap support or a second of the new blue I havent played unchained in a long time tho i admit, but dont we run 3 rages then 2 ang n one to two abom extra deck? Maybe the new cards really change a lot but I just dont get the ratios & some odd choices. Lotta bricking and destiny draws. An IP and another Knightmare type in the extra wouldnt hurt either. First list I disagreed with violently lol. WHERES CODER WE NEED HIM!

It makes a bit more sense with the new cards, since you can now set an unchained backrow card from deck with sharvara - going second, a hand that doesn’t hard-open backrow will benefit from playing it as a one-of, since your other targets are nothing more than fodder to destroy & trigger whilst wailing can be a free pop you wouldn’t otherwise get. It’s probably not an auto-include, but it’s hardly a bad draw (you’ve got pretty much full combo as long as you also open a way to pop it) and in the 90% of hands you don’t draw it your deck has an inherently higher ceiling by virtue of having the extra pop available.

Wailing plays through more handtraps. Sometimes you already used both trap effects in grave and need 1 more to push through ash and an imperm

@@eyecu4208 abom at one is where it needs to be also wailing gets wayyy better with the new cards since now there is a link 2 for extension not for endboard purposes which means you can go link sharvara and any other mons for Yama cl1 Yama cl2 sharvara set wailing you get a search and then when you go into anguish you get a pop from wailing plus the ability to link away opp monsters with anguish(so it's an easy and useful removal, very nice when going second and trying to kill) also useful when out of traps since it's searchable

The actual, puzzling choices are the 1-of Rakea and the Tour Guide package lol. Wailing is something you can pop to float at least, and its face-up effect miiiiight come in handy in certain duels. Also, this list is bloated with handtraps, Unchained isn't Pre-Banlist Mathmech or SHS lol, you really need more names because the deck has no actual 1-card combo

All good Unchained players are, I don't know who gave him this list.

Tour Guide is fine......... if you can't afford Prosp (even Foolish Burial). But this (2-2-1 s/t + 1 rakea/sarama) is absurd.

​@@babrad 1x Sarama is fine-- standard for many, actually. 1x Rakea is sus as hell, really should be 2-3x. 2/2 trap AND running Wailing is just bad (I can _understand_ Wailing, but it's super-low priority like Shipshape in Plunder). Also, because it wasn't mentioned... 0x Dog is just wrong. It breaks boards, it helps grind, and Muckracker makes it far less annoying these days if you draw it. You run 1. Disappointing list.

@@esbernhawkins5912 Personally i like the option of 2nd Sarama, even if Yama can get it from GY, it's typically my normal summon and i prefer to hard-draw it then force Nib and finally commit to it by establishing Rage/Escape/Caesar at the cost of using Yama's GY effect (post Nib) About Trap ratio, i still believe 6 are needed. On that point, i use 3-2-1 because Chamber requires "more" setup to be disruptive (Abo) while you can abuse 3 float effects with Wailing or be a little more aggressive going second (and potentially make your board better going first). I didn't miss 3rd Chamber anyway but that is completely personal preference and in no way Chamber is worse than Wailing. I'm on 2 Abo/1 Dog (no tour, 3 prop, 1 foolish, 2 rakea/Sarama) with 6 handtraps (droll/nib) and 6 board breakers (moon/poly) and a single copy of both TTTs (super poly is interchangeable with Imperm). I value Dog both as a extension (eating Nib for Rage) and recovery, while i consider Abo our "handtrap" (or anti-Ash especially vs the first float effect) but i get this isn't the typical approach.

@@esbernhawkins5912 in the first, because he was only playing one sarama was not able to reset the trap for more interaction, this can be huge in games where you need more than just your monster interruptions.

Exactly, the list is terrible

Idk the list seems fine lmaooo

Personally, I would have liked a field spell that extends the "link summon effect" to allow us to abuse Underworld Goddess etc. Something like this: Domain of *_Unchained_* Destruction You can use the 2nd and 3rd effect of this card’s name up to twice per turn. (1) Once per turn: You can set 1 "Unchained" card from your Deck, then you can destroy 1 *_other_* card on the field. (2) If a card(s) is destroyed: You can draw 1 card. (3) When you Link Summon using an "Unchained Soul" monster's effect, you can also shuffle into the deck Fiend monster(s) that are banished and/or in your GY as material. I thought of that before the revealing of Sharvara. Pretty close (i didn't expect Soul upgrades to Aruha/Rakea to be honest)

would of loved a proper normal summon for deck. Imagine a Marionetter that pops part of chain like sarama.

@@babrad Bro don't be like Konami, just call it Unchained Domain of Destruction. I would probably take off the draw effect because it would be a bit powerful since we have the link 1 to search already, and instead put the cards used as material back in hand. Or make it an optional hand/deck. Or you could also be funny and make the first effect twice per turn but specify one *other* card on the field, and the *other* card could be the set from the first activation.

A link 5 would be cool, too. It would need to be busted too

@@liviousgameplay1755 The draw effect is super important because it chainblocks our floating effects. Something i would have loved Supply Squad could do (if it weren't mandatory, experimented with it in Unchained Necrofear stun before the support) About the materials, they are better like that because the traps won't float to monsters in your hand while it would be TOO OP to remove 2 monsters your opponent controls with Rage (into Goddess) + get back 2/3 cards in hand. I made the change in name you suggested and the 1st effect, but still kept it OPT since you can just activate another field spell.

Good news! Play the dog

Is it still fun?

He couldn't because his bad list only plays 1 and he opened it.

This is giant card, difficult to obtain and expensive

Lava Golem is fantastic games two and 3 as a board wipe. The normal doesn't matter much when aruha and the level six can start your plays.

someone on MD with pre-support unchained played it with lab and sent me to the shadow realm (i was on fire fist)

its a 2 card main deck splash but it very much is

People were expirementing with unchained lab weeks ago... its playable but worse than just playing the archetypes by themselves

The deck likes going 2nd, you could run ultimate slayer to send trouble sunny to grave

only useful against link decks, absolutely no space to put other stuff in extra

You really think MBT doesn't know that?

@Andy_ARBS ever since the Smiger incident, no I don't

​@@LichlordP Ok fine, but he really does know this time. He does it properly on stream.

As someone who is gonna mess with the Deck, it's not a bad option but it's kinda hard given that you need the lvl 8 and a means of summoning out a Ki-sikil. Seems more of a gimmick than a proper use of an ED slot. You could be funny and use Visa Star frost, but same problem with it.

howre the OG unchained player feeling about it now

Dono was posing as the dog telling him not to read the new cards because any Unchained player knows that the new support means you dont have to play that bricky garnet anymore

it's almost the same as the topping lists lol