Agreed, from what I know their not technically royal but more likely nobles, considering Shen has the title of Lord and not Prince or King. And with this position most of their time was likely spent on their 'work' while lil Shen was left to his own devices (not to say his time wasn't occupied as well with studies etc) This little animation is honestly more of a vent, like I need to get my emotions out there oKay?! TvT But I do like to think they had little moments like this, just too few and far between until it was too late 😢 Like the Soothsayer said, of course they loved him, of course they cared about him. And like you said, over time and her being the only one of his 'family' still alive it's no wonder Shen and the Soothsayer has the relationship featured in the film.

​@@the_sleepless_dream YESS YESS I AGREE

1000% agreed, only issue is getting Gary Oldman to voice him again TcT It still amazes me to this day like, this man has done so many different voices during his career and still he manages to make Shen sound perfectly natural, I'm shooketh x_x

He might accept doing Shen's voice again, the problem is that they will never make a short film about him, which is a shame!

@@TheUnusualShenFan That's true, I haven't seen much of the 'behind the scenes' clips but he seemed to like voicing Shen so maybe? *fingers crossed* And yeah it's weird because like, he still has so much potential! And I know Dreamworks has been in a bit of a pickle these past years but still, really feels like someone in the higher-ups are literally pushing all the good ideas to the back of the bin or something -_-

​@@the_sleepless_dream Yeah like, who wouldn't like a Shen short film? It's a perfect idea! Or a short film for each villain like they did with the Kung Fu Council

@@TheUnusualShenFan Oh that would be great! To see him animated like that, and imagine his lil baby self in 2D? So cute!!! Dx Not saying that they'd have to include that but I mean.. who doesn't like seeing baby pictures of big scary villans? 😅 But yeah honestly 'Secrets of the Five' is, in my opinion, some of the best stories to come out of the kfp universe I especially like Vipers and Tigresses backstories, I dunno, I have a thing for sad but ultimately powerful tales 🥲

Thank you but how do you know that? Also the dad has a name?? 0.0

@the_sleepless_dream well I'm yet to see evidence for the name lian but I do know Soothsayer is called ah mah

@@jammygamer8961 Same but wait she's actually called that?? Full disclosure I just call her that because it feels right but it says that in the script?? If so 👀🥺😭

@@the_sleepless_dream Yea a long gone fan called Leo Mitchell did a documentary on Shen which at the time she had access to the art of KFP 2 Apple app which had content the book version lacked. I'll try to find the video for you since they have been delisted

@@jammygamer8961 Interesting, I'd love to get the artbook for myself some day tho good thing some of the concepts exists online 😅 And thanks, that's very nice of you ^^

I'd love that honestly, the serious parts of the movie are the best in my opinion Been thinking of making something that shows just that 'madness' but I'm not sure in what format 🤔

Thank you! And it's in the credits but it's from Disney's Mulan (the original 2D animated one) of the scene where Mulan's father sits down with her after the 'failed matchmaker scene' 😊

I don't know about reference but the sound is certainly from there yes 😅

That's what the dialogue audio was sourced from actually

I completely agree, clearly we're not being shown everything but I think that's what makes it interesting. This way we can imagine how it all played out for ourselves, how his parents were towards him and his history with the Soothsayer etc 🤔 Also thx! 😁🤩