Undergraduate enrollment continues to decline at U.S. colleges and universities

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3 жыл бұрын

Most high school seniors have decided where they will pursue the next four years of their education, but some colleges and universities are struggling to fill spaces for new students. Doug Shapiro, executive director of the National Student Clearinghouse Research Center, joins CBSN to break down the 4.5% decline in undergraduate enrollment compared with last spring.
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@arain764niara
@arain764niara 3 жыл бұрын
Jobs don't pay enough, cost of living is high, student debt is high. Why put ourselves through that?
@elijahreilly9247
@elijahreilly9247 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@MrWatchmen759
@MrWatchmen759 3 жыл бұрын
@@griselgriselda2901 wait until Biden passes his legislation plan on free community college
@CosmoMakeupgurl
@CosmoMakeupgurl 3 жыл бұрын
@@griselgriselda2901 Not if you want to work in a hospital. They want the BSN.
@yuh2634
@yuh2634 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrWatchmen759 god if only he gave everyone free college
@MrWatchmen759
@MrWatchmen759 3 жыл бұрын
@@yuh2634 that would be nice
@nmorawa
@nmorawa 3 жыл бұрын
I love how they are like, "I don't know why our rates are dropping." You don't always find a job after college, and people are not motivated.
@icanrelate
@icanrelate 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@ThingsILikke
@ThingsILikke 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe their parents cannot afford to send them also. My cousin was going to go out of state but he changed his mind and stayed local. Very good decision he won’t be in debt and he will have more money cuz the state school tuition is under $10,000 a year and he doesn’t need to pay for dorms just books and parking pass.
@joyijomoh7065
@joyijomoh7065 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@musblox
@musblox 3 жыл бұрын
You get a job if you choose a valuable degree and get good grades... if you choose art history well yeah maybe you won’t get a job
@ThingsILikke
@ThingsILikke 3 жыл бұрын
@@musblox that is a misconception - you won’t get a job because the market is terrible and employers take advantage. I worked with enough college graduates with accounting and engineering degrees when in the restaurant industry to see that “you have the wrong degree” is just a lie people tell because they don’t want to be bothered to fix the problem. Kind of like telling a girl “you let that man beat you up” as if she has any defense.
@lindsey9728
@lindsey9728 3 жыл бұрын
The debt of college and the previous years of hearing about people's lives being ruined by student debt has finally caught up to the colleges. The government should have addressed the problem years ago and now people won't take the risk.
@killmewhileimahead
@killmewhileimahead 3 жыл бұрын
Yea, this is so true. I feel criminal trying to convince my niece and nephew to take out loans but they’re not in privileged situations. I took the 2 year transfer route and got the full benefit of the pell grant so my debt is smaller compared to others but these expensive colleges are being peddled to them. 🤷‍♀️
@lindsey9728
@lindsey9728 3 жыл бұрын
@Roy Hundred I said "address the problem," not, "pay everything off." You are what's wrong with this country and you should keep your mouth shut if you think every problem has only 1 solution.
@lindsey9728
@lindsey9728 3 жыл бұрын
@Roy Hundred just because you're embarrassed by your uninformed opinion is no reason to act all tough. In real life, I'd ignore you, unless you said what you said directly to me, then I'd dress you down the same way. What you said was an attempt to argue with someone who didn't say a word to you, rude online, rude in real life. Truth is, you wouldn't have said that to me in real life because people who know what they're talking about push back and that keeps you a quiet little church mouse in real life. Your opinions are too uninformed to share with those whose respect you crave, so you come on here and insert yourself into conversations with the little soundbites you collected over years of consuming talk radio nonsense. I want to be clear, I don't dislike or hate you, but you were being rude and doubled down. If anything I'm saying hurt your feelings let me know, we can both apologize and move on, but if you're just a troll, you can keep escalating.
@TestTest-ei4gi
@TestTest-ei4gi 3 жыл бұрын
@@killmewhileimahead you should tell your nephew to consider a career in trade. It’s rewarding, especially financially.
@icecactus11
@icecactus11 3 жыл бұрын
They created the problem
@mariovicks9159
@mariovicks9159 3 жыл бұрын
The illusion is over! Lol they tired of being extorted just to learn.
@greenearthblueskies8556
@greenearthblueskies8556 3 жыл бұрын
This comment is underrated
@vsings1091
@vsings1091 3 жыл бұрын
Yup! Capitalists finally tried to feed at this trough one too many times.
@MB-nb7yq
@MB-nb7yq 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Salt Britain hasn’t learned a lesson. I think 2020 had the biggest increase of university enrolment. And wealth gap is growing in London every year.
@oneforall8161
@oneforall8161 3 жыл бұрын
Swear!!!
@oneforall8161
@oneforall8161 3 жыл бұрын
@@greenearthblueskies8556 Super underrated lol
@juliahanlon9680
@juliahanlon9680 3 жыл бұрын
I understand we’re in a pandemic; I really don’t mean to be selfish or anything like that. But tbh online school really isn’t for anyone. I’d say if worse comes to worse, school can wait. The fact that tuition is the same price or even increasing doesn’t help either Edit: thanks for the likes, I never had a comment get this much attention 😆
@killmewhileimahead
@killmewhileimahead 3 жыл бұрын
Yes exactly, I transferred to university after being at a two year school. I was there for a few months only then we switched to zoom. I paid for studio fees, material fees, campus services every semester since then. I can’t tell you how much zoom class and doing everything at home sucks.
@aena5995
@aena5995 3 жыл бұрын
@@killmewhileimahead ugh i have yet to figure out wtf to do with myself my parents r plannin to move to a country and want me to give the SAT to apply to turkey i just dont feel like i m mentslly ready for this anymore like already feel depressed ugh 😭
@laughoutmeow
@laughoutmeow 3 жыл бұрын
It saves me time. From commuting to watching recorded lectures it’s awrsome
@killmewhileimahead
@killmewhileimahead 3 жыл бұрын
@@aena5995 damn that sounds complicated, can you take a semester off?
@killmewhileimahead
@killmewhileimahead 3 жыл бұрын
@@laughoutmeow yeah some students told me that, they get more done without having to drive and everything. I can see that
@lanyserogers
@lanyserogers 3 жыл бұрын
It doesn’t really help either when the universities refuse to provide more financial aid options for low income students as well as hiking up tuition prices to oblivion
@r82033
@r82033 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Also, the fact that schools go off of your parent's income like everyone's parents are willing or able to contribute
@simplysabrina5294
@simplysabrina5294 3 жыл бұрын
Literally
@rosezavala6774
@rosezavala6774 3 жыл бұрын
Seriously, I feel that attending university as a low income person is so accesible. There is so much help out there, I can’t believe you’re saying that opposite. Universities are specifically targeting people from low socioeconomic backgrounds.
@lanyserogers
@lanyserogers 3 жыл бұрын
@@rosezavala6774 As a low-income student myself(as well as a dependent to a single parent), I’ve felt that it’s been pretty hard to find resources for schools that are out of the state I live In. I personally agree to the extent that there are more resources for low income students who are going to a school in state versus out of state. Since I live in Maryland, I’ve been getting a lot of scholarships and grants within the state, but I can never use them out of the state because they’re Maryland-specific. Also, what I’m getting at is that colleges have more than enough money to supply extra support for those who are having a difficult time paying for expenses regardless of if they’re from the state or not. Plus, not everyone wants to go to college so the money should be more accessible. I hope this clarifies my statement 😊❤️
@rosezavala6774
@rosezavala6774 3 жыл бұрын
@@lanyserogers That did clarify, thank you. Honestly it does work like that, the help is there, but generally only applies to only in state or situations. I’m assuming this has to do with taxes you pay to the state etc. Thank you for taking the time to write a thoughtful reply. I’m just a big believer that attending university benefits people and society as a whole(perhaps this stems from ideals from immigrant parents), and I feel like money shouldn’t play a barrier in a persons formal education. I just get upset when I see these statistics going down, because I struggle with understand that university isn’t for everyone (I’m working on it though!)
@leahgary1107
@leahgary1107 3 жыл бұрын
Between how difficult and complicated financial aid is, the pandemic, and how difficult and complicated enrollment can be...it's almost not worth the effort. Colleges literally have you jumping through hoops trying to get every thing you need just to start a new semester and the books cost a fortune on top of the cost of tuition.
@AmazingSurvivalKH
@AmazingSurvivalKH 3 жыл бұрын
hello👌
@jonasabry9099
@jonasabry9099 3 жыл бұрын
And proof of vaccination for many universities now.
@leahgary1107
@leahgary1107 3 жыл бұрын
@@jonasabry9099 I guess I can understand why on that but if they're going to want so much...they should at least simplify it.
@gail-sw9xg
@gail-sw9xg 3 жыл бұрын
There is no point in having a degree when the best you can hope for is a job driving a taxi or flipping burgers.
@kleparaskevas2628
@kleparaskevas2628 3 жыл бұрын
How come Europe offers tuition free universities?
@omar9268
@omar9268 3 жыл бұрын
I can confidently say, gen z isn’t going the typical university route, there’s just other options we can take & have learned from millennials college debt
@aena5995
@aena5995 3 жыл бұрын
Wht do u do instead? My parents r already forcing uni on me i feel so mentally unready 😑😑
@blink182lives100
@blink182lives100 3 жыл бұрын
I think its more of kids taking a year off because they don't want to do online learning rather than kids deciding to not do college
@omar9268
@omar9268 3 жыл бұрын
@@blink182lives100 I said what I said because I’m actually gen z & see how the people around me are afraid of taking in any sort of debt , i would say our generation is very entrepreneurial unlike the millennials , it’s not just covid
@BlastinRope
@BlastinRope 3 жыл бұрын
@@aena5995 instead of going to college they protest that minimum wage is too low.
@BlastinRope
@BlastinRope 3 жыл бұрын
@@omar9268 i think you have marketing on tiktok confused with being an "entrepeneur", which we had plenty of when I was a teenager - it meant someone who wanted to make lots of money but had no idea how to do it.
@choo1030
@choo1030 3 жыл бұрын
I believe fear is the biggest reason for so many young people choosing college. The fear of being left behind their peers, the pressure from their parents, no clear life goal. People just go to college because everyone else is going.
@choo1030
@choo1030 3 жыл бұрын
@Tom Johanson ever heard of trade schools? Or coding bootcamp?
@ThingsILikke
@ThingsILikke 3 жыл бұрын
Before the 2008 recession college was really heavily campaigned for by Hollywood. You had movies like Van Wilder, American Pie, The Girl Next Door- all these raunchy and funny movies using sex to sell very high-ticket colleges and make like it was a right of passage. All characters based in wealthy neighborhoods but presented as if that was the average American. Times were really different back then. I didn’t go to college (except for a few local classes I was interested in) and I’ve never once regretted it. The career I wanted (which I have now) didn’t require one but my parents really pressured me to go. I said no but if I were from a smaller family I doubt I would have gotten away with it.
@aldomeow
@aldomeow 3 жыл бұрын
And you get left behind anyways 😂
@mike-te7qd
@mike-te7qd 3 жыл бұрын
This is so true and the fact that people think getting a 4 year degree in anything will make them better off. Getting a marketable skill whether in a college, technical college, or by teaching yourself is key.
@microwavedbread3021
@microwavedbread3021 3 жыл бұрын
THIS RIGHT HERE. The number of people I have heard that have literally said, "I honestly just don't want to be left behind". It's ridiculous.
@lizardkid2234
@lizardkid2234 3 жыл бұрын
My 4 older cousins are now in their 30s and still live with their parents. They all have degrees.
@susanlawrence2938
@susanlawrence2938 3 жыл бұрын
Probably has to do with the city they live in
@brookedavidoff9879
@brookedavidoff9879 3 жыл бұрын
That and the cost of living is so unaffordable I'm in So Cal rent is crazy.
@connorthompson66
@connorthompson66 3 жыл бұрын
@@susanlawrence2938 Probably has to do with the fact that they are in crippling debt?
@Frankieefootballmundial
@Frankieefootballmundial 3 жыл бұрын
@@brookedavidoff9879 even in nyc
@rosezavala6774
@rosezavala6774 3 жыл бұрын
I fond the opposite case to be true in my family. My older cousin is already being offered jobs a a junior in college(she is majoring in psychology) and she has a job lined up for when she finishes as a result of her hard work. It’s all a matter of how motivated a person is... if they don’t want to work, they won’t regardless of they have a degree or not.
@hisokamorow8388
@hisokamorow8388 3 жыл бұрын
If you’re not planning to major in medicine, accounting, law or some type of engineering then don’t bother.
@AmazingStoryDewd
@AmazingStoryDewd 3 жыл бұрын
A way around that is if you go to a cheaper college you can pay off fairly quickly (under 2 years). Like a community college.
@musblox
@musblox 3 жыл бұрын
Actually law is one of the worst majors you could pick now, no jobs for those guys
@KiamKweli
@KiamKweli 3 жыл бұрын
@@musblox Indeed apps like Legal Zoom are decimating the industry.
@TheGuniverse2k
@TheGuniverse2k 3 жыл бұрын
Very true
@lexismith8206
@lexismith8206 3 жыл бұрын
That's not true. Engineering and STEM majors are very profitable.
@littlechepe96
@littlechepe96 3 жыл бұрын
If you want school go to community college and work a part time saving money. Once you transfer to University you have money saved. I did that and have no debt and will graduate soon. Best choice I have ever made
@agorapanologia
@agorapanologia 3 жыл бұрын
You must have had some very affordable universities in your area. I tried to the do the same, but all of the universities in my state were still too expensive, even with my savings. And forget out of state. I ended up having to take out loans to make the difference.
@andieb3632
@andieb3632 3 жыл бұрын
I wish they push this more in high school. In my town, Com. College is free to anyone student who graduated from this city. Why wouldn't you go?!!!!
@craigcarter400
@craigcarter400 3 жыл бұрын
In my city “free” has become about $400+books a quarter which is still a bargain for my teen daughters in HS.
@Gothiqueluv
@Gothiqueluv 3 жыл бұрын
Gee that sounds great! So how are you supposed to do that if you have kids?
@andieb3632
@andieb3632 3 жыл бұрын
@@Gothiqueluv Sorry. Gotta choose a career path that will work with moms
@AzureRook
@AzureRook 3 жыл бұрын
My state college is more interested in making money than providing an education, the quality of education for its price tag is almost a scam!
@djsaidez271
@djsaidez271 3 жыл бұрын
California? :)
@AzureRook
@AzureRook 3 жыл бұрын
@@djsaidez271 yep, and the sad part was I needed to take make-up classes at city college and that's where I saw the difference lol
@greenearthblueskies8556
@greenearthblueskies8556 3 жыл бұрын
Mine closed down....Dayuuuuuuum
@user-lu6yg3vk9z
@user-lu6yg3vk9z 3 жыл бұрын
@@AzureRook KZfaq Peter Schiff college
@jasonlee6227
@jasonlee6227 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds normal. Many of these colleges/universities are simply operating for mere profit. They just want your tuition money, could care less what happens to you after you leave school.
@vanyac6448
@vanyac6448 3 жыл бұрын
Being a recent college graduate myself, I know that a lot of my classmates have been complaining that we get charged the same tuition as in-person schooling for lower-quality online school. Chances are, this is it.
@kaiarneson3441
@kaiarneson3441 3 жыл бұрын
At my University you have to pay more for each online class
@worldcitizeng6507
@worldcitizeng6507 3 жыл бұрын
Unless professors, administration staffers, college coaches, president are all willing to take a pay cut, nothing will change
@sauljahboi5965
@sauljahboi5965 3 жыл бұрын
@@worldcitizeng6507 alot of Colleges need their staffing streamlined
@TheGuniverse2k
@TheGuniverse2k 3 жыл бұрын
I feel this is the main reason. The whole bait of college has always been the on campus experience, not having that, literally paying thousands to look at a computer is totally absolutely not worth it
@haloelite205
@haloelite205 3 жыл бұрын
I see this as a positive. College degrees will no longer be as saturated.
@diverman1023
@diverman1023 3 жыл бұрын
It depends on the field. I studied applied maths and employers were literally fighting over us out of graduate school, simply not enough qualified people in some fields
@CatholicTraditional
@CatholicTraditional 2 жыл бұрын
@One Man To be honest, most jobs should only require a HS diploma. This was the case until employers thought (wrongfully) that having a college degree automatically meant you could do anything. Maybe 40 yrs. ago, but not today. If you need a bachelor’s to shovel sh*t, then something is wrong here....
@Blitznstitch2
@Blitznstitch2 3 жыл бұрын
It's not worth going into debt for a degree anymore. Going to college is worth it if... You have a defined path to your profession of choice. Like if you want to be a vet - that's defined. But if you don't know, don't go.
@daney2154
@daney2154 3 жыл бұрын
True
@danielbetekhtin6537
@danielbetekhtin6537 3 жыл бұрын
That's what I'm gonna tell my kids - don't bother with college if you don't know what you want to do with it
@domdubz7037
@domdubz7037 3 жыл бұрын
There’s more to the world of academia then a monetary reward at the end.
@Alex-sf5xy
@Alex-sf5xy 3 жыл бұрын
You join the military to become a vet. rolls eyes
@Gothiqueluv
@Gothiqueluv 3 жыл бұрын
@@danielbetekhtin6537 Most freshman have no idea what they want to do. That's what the first two years of college are for. They can figure it out then pick a major. Some degree is better than no degree depending on the situation.
@tarzz25qwe
@tarzz25qwe 3 жыл бұрын
In my opinion colleges aren't giving students the value for the cost of the education, they know after graduation they will graduated with tons of debt and aren't guaranteed a higher paying job after they finish.
@bruh-fw7op
@bruh-fw7op 3 жыл бұрын
People don’t realize that colleges don’t exist to teach students, they exist to support their for-profit business IN education.
@icanrelate
@icanrelate 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@ThingsILikke
@ThingsILikke 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnjones-yt8rt I heard that colleges were “indoctrination camps” since I was little and I thought it was an exaggeration- but all my buddies from school that went to private universities are all socialists now. And I was homeschooled, all my friends from Baptist/Protestant families. It’s really crazy nothing about socialism lines up with Christianity but I guess they didn’t care about God like they were raised to if they were so easily influenced.
@katielue4989
@katielue4989 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThingsILikke I homeschool and teach my kids that they can be entrepreneurs and that they should invest in business over college. There's so many ways to make passive income without even needing a job. I had my own taxi business for 4 years and then moved on to selling on eBay. I eventually want to invest in real estate, flip houses, sell them and also have some Airbnb's in nice vacation areas that I can rent out regularly. I've also been considering starting an online drop shipping business and eventually a print on demand business as well. I hated school and working for people so I find ways around it lol. Unless going for a profession that absolutely requires a degree, like a doctor or lawyer, college really is a waste of time. People can invest in way better things and not be at the whim of others. This is probably why enrollment is down and not as many people want to go to college anymore.
@liveandletlive807
@liveandletlive807 3 жыл бұрын
"How could this happen?" Inflated tuition. Insane housing costs at both private and state schools. High interest student loans. No guarantee of a job after college. Listen, I know online college hasn't been good for everyone. If you've struggled, I'm truly sorry and I hope things improve for you soon. However, I am a current community college student and online college has gone surprisingly well for me. When I transfer this fall, I will be attending my online state university instead of a brick-and-mortar school. Why? I don't love online school, but I can afford it. I'd rather not fund a college football team and luxury dorms when I don't have to. If decent jobs didn't require a bachelor's degree college would be a massive waste of time and money. If more of us rise up and refuse to play Sallie Mae's game, college will become more affordable.
@brisguzman9216
@brisguzman9216 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! That was the stopper for me. With housing I was facing almost 20K a year for 4 years, plus expenses. No gracias.
@EwYoureCringe
@EwYoureCringe 3 жыл бұрын
Did no one watch the video? CC enrollment is also down and expensive graduate enrollment is up
@fornoreason8822
@fornoreason8822 2 жыл бұрын
All you need is one word...greed.
@rdukes5779
@rdukes5779 3 жыл бұрын
I graduated high school in 2015 and started college that fall. Going to college is stressful and overwhelming in many aspects. I went to college for 2.5 years and they charge for everything! I had a full Academic ride but seeing what many of my classmates went through is enough to drive you insane. Drove me insane trying to work full time to support my outside of school and working to maintain my scholarship. I took a chance and dropped out to pick up a trade. That being said many of my friends have their bachelors and are swamped in debt, can’t find jobs using their degrees, and still live at home with their parents. Me on the other hand, I have a generous income, a homeowner at 24, and no lingering college debt. Long story short, I feel like the enrollment percentages are declining because folks are tired of the scam of the college/university system. But that’s just my opinion.
@maizahbritton3802
@maizahbritton3802 3 жыл бұрын
I am just curious about what trades people go in to? What trade did you decide to learn?
@sahtemehdiavcstarkd8712
@sahtemehdiavcstarkd8712 3 жыл бұрын
@@maizahbritton3802 plumbing hospitality cooking school carpenter etc
@katielue4989
@katielue4989 3 жыл бұрын
@@maizahbritton3802 Electrician, plumbing, automotive. With financial aid it comes out to about 4k-9k after the fact and certified within 2 years. I looked into it but decided to invest that money in a business instead. There's so many ways to make passive income without any certificate/degree, self employment is the way to go now a days! Getting a skilled trade can help you a lot in becoming self employed though. For example, you can become a certified electrician and start a independent business making over $100 to install electrical in new houses/remodeled houses. Or let's say you get certified in carpentry, you can do home repairs and even build your own buildings and sell them. There's so many businesses where they make manufactured homes, sheds, and garages which probably are nothing for them to build and then sell them for a significant profit. There's honestly so much you can do, trade school is worth it, college is a waste of time, but both are not needed. There's so many opportunities to make passive income now you just have to look and think outside the box. Invest in business not college.
@NazriB
@NazriB 9 ай бұрын
Lies again? Lazy Students
@msj9097
@msj9097 3 жыл бұрын
Another reason college enrollments have declined because Gen Z is a smaller generation that Millennials. This trend will continue to grow and will fall off a cliff in the next few years because starting in 2007 or 2008 is when our extremely low birthrate started.
@nicoleonlysometimes824
@nicoleonlysometimes824 3 жыл бұрын
@Ahad Umer the gen z generation time period is already over so it can’t get any bigger
@kolyxix
@kolyxix 2 жыл бұрын
@Ahad Umer not enough to offset the declining Birthrate
@starscream6629
@starscream6629 2 жыл бұрын
That’s why they are allowing Illegal migrants to flood the southern border. They won’t stick around if there aren’t gov benefits or jobs in the future though. Most funnel money out of country to family back home, but the ones that have families here are solving the birth rate issue. Temporary solution I guess.
@stryder619
@stryder619 3 жыл бұрын
It's painfully clear; unless you're studying STEM, medicine, or law, many degree paths provide almost nothing of concrete value. There are far better paying alternatives that cost less in terms of training
@AshaMae
@AshaMae 3 жыл бұрын
Not even law.
@AmazingStoryDewd
@AmazingStoryDewd 3 жыл бұрын
Unless your goal is to be an academic of course.
@dereckdelcid72
@dereckdelcid72 3 жыл бұрын
Even compsci (STEM) is under attack.
@wii3willRule
@wii3willRule 3 жыл бұрын
not even STEM. At least, not the "M" in STEM. Protip: don't bother majoring in math
@daniyalamed2960
@daniyalamed2960 3 жыл бұрын
@@wii3willRule Do teaching in math. There is a huge shortage of Math teachers and thus they are paid very well in some states. Just an advise for you
@brookedavidoff9879
@brookedavidoff9879 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a full-time college student and a single mother, Zoom school is very hard. The amount of self-learning needed for Zoom school can be overwhelming. There is no school library, no quiet time if everyone in your home is home. It's definitely challenging.
@user-fj3mm4st9i
@user-fj3mm4st9i 3 жыл бұрын
Totally feel you
@killmewhileimahead
@killmewhileimahead 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah the lack of a quiet place would send me into full on rages. I had to move my desk into a walk in closet. I also started getting freaked out by hearing recordings of lectures over and over and couldn’t finish lectures if there were too many mouth noises and my legs started to feel weird after sitting all day in a chair. If you are doing all this with kids, you are truly my hero.
@gamerhistorian7843
@gamerhistorian7843 3 жыл бұрын
Should have joined the military and get the G.I bill
@kaytee5031
@kaytee5031 3 жыл бұрын
@@gamerhistorian7843 lol trade one scam for another ?
@rebeccasimpson7527
@rebeccasimpson7527 3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations for hanging in there, Brooke! College is hard - even in person, I can’t imagine on line learning! It will pay off in the long run.
@beetime8184
@beetime8184 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe don't make us pay thousands of dollars for half of a dorm room. I'm very lucky that my family can afford to send me to college, but if I had to go into debt for this, I wouldn't be doing it.
@CxDubxU
@CxDubxU 3 жыл бұрын
Turns out, you can only artificially raise tuition prices and stick the students with all the debt for so long before it goes bust...
@BrockLanders
@BrockLanders 2 жыл бұрын
College is a terrible investment unless you’re going into a STEM field. Go to your local library if you want to learn about Gender Studies.
@angelyeas
@angelyeas 2 жыл бұрын
I'll echo that. If you want to educate yourself, become a good self-learner. Don't spend exorbitant amounts of money on unorthodox interests. Especially when that information is available through other avenues at a mere fraction of the price. I've learned more from online learning on the side than the egregious outdated curriculum being inculcated by professors that have long outlived their primes.
@Victor-tl4dk
@Victor-tl4dk 2 жыл бұрын
@@angelyeas exactly. There should be a self learner associates degree or something!
@todmas3077
@todmas3077 3 жыл бұрын
My sister is in grad school with 90K in debt so far. She hasn’t blinked an eye because she has no intentions paying it back
@merissacooper6539
@merissacooper6539 3 жыл бұрын
Damn... Is she mentally and emotionally okay?
@jessicasmith5728
@jessicasmith5728 3 жыл бұрын
While I understand the reason why some people ignore their college debt, the problem here is how it grows interest. It'll loom over your head until you're either dead or if you pay it back. And it's unforgivable unlike other debts.
@ablueslenz
@ablueslenz 3 жыл бұрын
She may not pay back one cent of the loans she borrowed, but she will pay in other ways, especially if the loans are private student loans. If they are government loans, they will block her from other potential resources she might need down the road if she defaults on the loans. So, she will pay one way or the other.
@ablueslenz
@ablueslenz 3 жыл бұрын
@Velvet Thunder Good question. The answer is simply the loans will remain and accrue interest. They are not discharged unless she dies, or the government dismisses them. I don’t think the latter will ever happen. If she ever earns a wage in the U.S. after leaving the country, the government can garnish her wages and apply toward the defaulted loans.
@gr8macaw1
@gr8macaw1 2 жыл бұрын
Your sister is in grad school and she thinks this unpaid student loan will not follow her? Proof that a college education is worthless.
@nobodyimportant5978
@nobodyimportant5978 3 жыл бұрын
Who wants to spend thousands of dollars and years of their lives only to come out less intelligent and in debt?
@deandregary6539
@deandregary6539 3 жыл бұрын
Pay the price of learning. 🤣
@genxx2724
@genxx2724 3 жыл бұрын
A degree in indignation, entitlement, and SJW. Misguidedly imposing the term “Latinx” on people, disrespecting the rules of the Spanish language and culture while virtue signaling respect of culture. The irony is so rich. 🤣
@AmazingStoryDewd
@AmazingStoryDewd 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I dropped out of college for the time being. The problem is the quality of online instruction is mediocre at best and I'm still paying the same amount as if I were on campus. Honestly it's so bad I'd be better off self studying .... too bad I can't get a degree doing that lol.
@ThingsILikke
@ThingsILikke 3 жыл бұрын
You can though - go to a degree mill that gives associates degrees based on how you score on aptitude testing.
@akui88
@akui88 3 жыл бұрын
i went to college and make around 50K a year, my friend went to a trade school and is now a plumber, he earns about 100K a year 5 years out.
@sahtemehdiavcstarkd8712
@sahtemehdiavcstarkd8712 3 жыл бұрын
Even if it paid 200 k, I still would not want to be a plumber, maybe that is just me 😁
@jenniferpearce1052
@jenniferpearce1052 3 жыл бұрын
@@sahtemehdiavcstarkd8712 This is a fair point. Life has tradeoffs. You pick a job and a lifestyle together. Is a higher paying job worth doing that kind of work? Depends on the person!
@sahtemehdiavcstarkd8712
@sahtemehdiavcstarkd8712 3 жыл бұрын
@@jenniferpearce1052 exactly that was my point. I am a college professor, I like the prestige and flexibility.
@diverman1023
@diverman1023 3 жыл бұрын
But he will have to be a plumber for life and has to provide his own insurance, etc right? I definitely think in STEM fields it’s worth it going to college and you life a more comfortable life with more options
@akui88
@akui88 3 жыл бұрын
@@diverman1023 no he works for a company.
@Iceify_
@Iceify_ 3 жыл бұрын
Not everyone wants 80k in debt at the end of college.
@lexismith8206
@lexismith8206 3 жыл бұрын
Go to community college, get scholarships, work while you're in school, GoFundMe...
@mssha1980
@mssha1980 3 жыл бұрын
@@lexismith8206 it’s near impossible to work while I’m school
@starscream6629
@starscream6629 2 жыл бұрын
@@lexismith8206 Lol go fund me. Virtual pan handling for your personal choices.
@emilyuncry8933
@emilyuncry8933 3 жыл бұрын
College is not worth it for those getting useless degrees. I got a Mechanical Engineering Degree and getting paid well with a fun job. There are so many people that come in going for Liberal Arts, Gender Studies, Art History, but the Money is in Medicine, Medical, Law, Coding, and Engineering
@LEuler-wl1jp
@LEuler-wl1jp 3 жыл бұрын
This needs to be pinned. If you study the useless, you are the useless
@HeyyyitsBell
@HeyyyitsBell 3 жыл бұрын
@@LEuler-wl1jp liberal arts isn’t useless, though. a liberal art education should strengthen one’s ability to articulate themselves, particularly when dealing with the abstract, which is clearly useful for anyone. the key word is “should”.
@jasonjstdr
@jasonjstdr 3 жыл бұрын
Most college graduates get jobs, including those with liberal arts majors. Many liberal arts majors make more after promotions later in life than people with technical degrees.
@tohruadachi7509
@tohruadachi7509 3 жыл бұрын
Coding is not something you need a degree, I have some friends who are programmers and they never stepped into an university. I would say, just go to university if you wanna be a doctor, lawyer, engineer, architecture or teacher, for other things, a CC is fine or taking online courses.
@icecactus11
@icecactus11 3 жыл бұрын
Engineers are having a rough time finding jobs too you’re lucky even with that
@METALKILLSemosNpunks
@METALKILLSemosNpunks 3 жыл бұрын
Dropped out of college after a year and enrolled in trade school instead. Far less cheaper and I’m far more financially stable then I would ever have been had I kept going to college.
@AmazingSurvivalKH
@AmazingSurvivalKH 3 жыл бұрын
Students are finely smartening up and not going into
@ThingsILikke
@ThingsILikke 3 жыл бұрын
@Ahad Umer businesses fail because the people running them don’t manage their cash flow. If these kids are financially responsible and honest they have a high chance of success in business.
@notkarengt3109
@notkarengt3109 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThingsILikke Correct, in business manging income and fiance is important, I don't think much schools teach basic money making skills that can help the society ;-;
@notkarengt3109
@notkarengt3109 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThingsILikke I recommending listening and reading a book called "Rich Dad Poor Dad" it's a book that teaches a good lesson.
@giannisaxon4080
@giannisaxon4080 3 жыл бұрын
The meaning of college is vanishing because of the high tuition cost. Also, people are more educated these days people realized that having a degree doesn't mean u going to have a good job or career. I know people with degrees that make 12 an hour. Sad 😩
@LEuler-wl1jp
@LEuler-wl1jp 3 жыл бұрын
What was the major?
@luv2clash970
@luv2clash970 3 жыл бұрын
Really? I’m a 17 year old in high school making 18 an hour. I hope my civil engineering career will take me far
@LEuler-wl1jp
@LEuler-wl1jp 3 жыл бұрын
@@luv2clash970 Hi, engineering degrees will definitely help you in the long run. Engineering internship pays around $20/hr and after some certifications (you need to be done with the engineering first), your salary can be around $55/hr. But if you study majors such as gender studies and the likes, get ready to fake your death.
@C3yl0
@C3yl0 3 жыл бұрын
@@LEuler-wl1jp not everyone was born to be an engineer! You still need the art major or how do you buy the clothing you even wear? Who designed? Smh
@starscream6629
@starscream6629 2 жыл бұрын
@@luv2clash970 Do they have an uncivil engineering where everyone cusses?
@KentoSky
@KentoSky 3 жыл бұрын
Colleges are businesses at the end of the day.
@MikaelChoi
@MikaelChoi 2 жыл бұрын
They shouldn't be. Education should be a necessity like healthcare and housing.
@nonequivalence1864
@nonequivalence1864 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who got their computer science degree in 2018 - College's top 5 the biggest scams every created by mankind. It's a waste of time, money and life. I don't recommend anyone going to college unless you aspire to become a doctor or lawyer. I'm a software developer now with a good salary because of building many projects on the side to give myself experience. I've literally learned nothing from college besides cheating my way through classes just to pass and get it over with simply because the material's antiquated and not up to par with modern standards. Colleges are robbing people with a smile on their face, it's that simple.
@wii3willRule
@wii3willRule 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, breaking into SWE without a CS degree is significantly more difficult than if you have one
@HisMajesty99
@HisMajesty99 3 жыл бұрын
It was a ripoff to begin with, and now it’s an even bigger ripoff being virtual and online. Why would a sane person sink 100 grand for online courses that have less quality than Khan Academy videos on KZfaq?
@swavekbu4959
@swavekbu4959 3 жыл бұрын
I'm late 40s, and though I have great credit, would probably have some trouble convincing a bank to lend me 100k. Yet, if I was 18, and said it was for school, they'd lend it in a heartbeat. The problem is that I know what 100k is worth and what comes with paying it back. The kid doesn't. He'll wake up 10 years later and wonder how dumb he was to take out 100k in loans that he may never pay off.
@Shaes_Projects
@Shaes_Projects 3 жыл бұрын
True, people act like “oh they chose that debt, they should deal with it”, but a 17-18y/o isn’t going to know the full impact of that debt and the fact it takes decades to pay it off. Many millennials are still under mountains of debt from 10-30 years ago. I really feel for the people stuck under student loan debt. It really piles up at a rate faster than anyone can realistically pay it off, even if they live at a minimalistic bare minimum for the next decade. Wage stagnation is really the icing on the student debt cake, making it even harder.
@swavekbu4959
@swavekbu4959 3 жыл бұрын
@@Shaes_Projects Exactly, a 25-year old says he/she has 150k in student debt, yet has no awareness that he/she'll be likely paying off that debt for the rest of their lives. They think it's simply "something to deal with" instead of seeing it for what it is, a lifetime of working for the bank paying interest on the loan. 100k student debt isn't a "problem," it's a lifetime of servitude to the bank unless they have an amazing income. The bank is literally enslaving them to a lifetime of servitude without them knowing it.
@mssha1980
@mssha1980 3 жыл бұрын
AMEN!
@CatholicTraditional
@CatholicTraditional 2 жыл бұрын
Blame the guidance counselors for telling all the kids and parents that college is the only way to go. The other thing about student loans is that there’s no credit/collateral check, and you don’t have to start repayments until 6 months after graduation or other separation from the college. Every other type of loan lucky if you get the first month free.
@AM-dp9tv
@AM-dp9tv 3 жыл бұрын
So glad I didn't fall into the trap of attending a 4 year and went the community college route for my nursing degree, cant believe I have peers paying 3000-4000 a semester...ridiculous. And it isn't even worth it!!
@djsaidez271
@djsaidez271 3 жыл бұрын
My state school charges 6000 per quarter. QUARTER.
@C3yl0
@C3yl0 3 жыл бұрын
My daughter is in a community college and pays almost 3000 for 12 credits per semester!
@djsaidez271
@djsaidez271 3 жыл бұрын
@Ahad Umer Well I'm not in college yet, I looked at UCSD (one of the cheaper UCs), and tuition for in-state residents is about $15k per year, so $5k per quarter (doesn't count summer quarter), and this isn't accounting for financial aid but also isn't accounting for housing and other extra costs
@wii3willRule
@wii3willRule 3 жыл бұрын
Good work! Nursing is a really solid career, very unlikely to ever be automated
@djsaidez271
@djsaidez271 3 жыл бұрын
@Ahad Umer Well I'm lucky since I qualify for a tuition scholarship through the military, but even with that it's not a walk in the park since I want to move on-campus
@alaaa1794
@alaaa1794 3 жыл бұрын
Student debt? College too expensive!
@jerrygil1965
@jerrygil1965 3 жыл бұрын
Exacto!
@silentdragon9151
@silentdragon9151 3 жыл бұрын
Well there could be many reasons 4 yr colleges are expensive. Community college is alot cheaper. Also Pell Grants dont really help if these kids have to report their parents incomes until they are 25. When many parents are 18 and done. It makes them push back education and sometimes just give up on the idea.
@AmazingSurvivalKH
@AmazingSurvivalKH 3 жыл бұрын
hello👌
@liveandletlive807
@liveandletlive807 3 жыл бұрын
Community college is absolutely cheaper but it still ain't that cheap.
@silentdragon9151
@silentdragon9151 3 жыл бұрын
@@liveandletlive807 I know and the cost of books is outrageous.
@C3yl0
@C3yl0 3 жыл бұрын
That’s a myth! Community colleges are charging 3k or more per semester for 12 creds
@silentdragon9151
@silentdragon9151 3 жыл бұрын
@@C3yl0 apparently I lived a myth. Cool
@kpokpojiji
@kpokpojiji 3 жыл бұрын
Our boys did their university studies in foreign countries. Aside from having the remarkable experience in living in another culture, schools there were substantially less expensive, so both boys finished school with no debt, and top flight, internationally recognized degrees. Worth looking into (go directly to the foreign school, do not try to do it through an American university as they will charge you a fortune). College in America is more and more a rip off.
@rayer6445
@rayer6445 2 жыл бұрын
thats sounds awesome. How does pne do that. It sounds like a harrowing feat.
@purplepixi18
@purplepixi18 3 жыл бұрын
I took an 8 year break from school. I came back, and now I'm a straight A student. It can be done!
@Shaes_Projects
@Shaes_Projects 3 жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work! I took a gap year after graduating in 2018, I’m getting a vet tech associates and taking my first set of externship hours over the summer. I felt better prepared and it’s good to take a long break to see what works for you rather than jumping straight into it.
@danegagnon
@danegagnon 3 жыл бұрын
Same here! I took almost 7 years off and got straight A's this year (all online). I've been accepted to every school I applied to and almost all of my tuition is covered at the school I chose.
@jerrygil1965
@jerrygil1965 3 жыл бұрын
I had a lot of people in their 30s and 40s in my classes finishing college, great idea
@JustSheaShea
@JustSheaShea 3 жыл бұрын
I found out my in 3rd year and $42,000 in debt I found out that my new major would only pay 12.50/hr. I’m taking 5 a year break to reevaluate my options.
@Ada-zg2qb
@Ada-zg2qb 3 жыл бұрын
That's good. I graduated with 35k in debt with am English degree. Let's just say that was a mistake. I went through an IT training program and am now making enough to pay my loans of in under 5 years. I learned my lesson. I'm not going back to school because the field I'm in is very secure. But if I were to go back it would be a short training program for something I like doing and I would pay cash upfront.
@jenalatz3589
@jenalatz3589 3 жыл бұрын
Colleges need to be honest about job opportunities with degrees that don't have practical applications. Some majors have straight paths to work in a particular field others majors may have satisfied your interes6and passion but may not lead to employment in that field, better have a plan B if you go that route.
@mz.anita9936
@mz.anita9936 3 жыл бұрын
Happy to hear this!! Don't make the mistake this millennial did. I paid off 40k and still have about 30k left to pay off my student loans and it's been a mental inhibitor my whole life. Honestly not worth it. There's much better routes you can take. Multiple companies are lowering degree requirements, online classes, entrepreneurship...whatever floats your boat. Don't follow this stigma that you have to go a traditional route like college to get a good job.
@chrismessy
@chrismessy 3 жыл бұрын
Students woke up when the price for online schooling didn't go down
@Nora-pw6pk
@Nora-pw6pk 3 жыл бұрын
Higher education doesn't equal success...it equals debt tho
@Reconseal4050
@Reconseal4050 3 жыл бұрын
College just isn't worth it anymore unless they are willing to lower their prices!
@deandregary6539
@deandregary6539 3 жыл бұрын
College is for wealthy people only in my own opinion.
@lexismith8206
@lexismith8206 3 жыл бұрын
@@deandregary6539 you can go to community college...
@arpita8285
@arpita8285 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of students are taking gap years. Even I contemplated taking one before my freshman year this year but decided against it.
@Tamar-sz8ox
@Tamar-sz8ox 3 жыл бұрын
Yes...
@arpita8285
@arpita8285 3 жыл бұрын
@@Tamar-sz8ox yes, what?
@richardking1561
@richardking1561 2 жыл бұрын
The gap year is probably a smart thing to do. Discover whats out there. Heck they may even find a job with an employer that is willing to help with tuition - BIngo! - go at night to school after work. If I could go back and do it over again, I wouldn't have gone straight to college. I would have started looking for a job and worked up from there. Save all those opportunity costs.
@daney2154
@daney2154 3 жыл бұрын
I was supposed to be an international student from Jamaica to the US, however I decided just to attend school in Jamaica for this main reason: I AM NOT GONNA PAY OVER $40,000 USD FOR A DAMN OVERSEAS SCHOOL WHERE I CAN PAY LESS THAN $1500 USD IN MY OWN COUNTRY. That's a huge gap right there.
@worldcitizeng6507
@worldcitizeng6507 3 жыл бұрын
I work in this sector; so I can say that when many Americans are struggling with jobs, uncertain future during this pandemic, and many international students (from a certain country) are not enrolling this fall for colleges. The international students are money makers for many colleges since they pay higher tuition than the domestic students. College towns will surfer as well, less students, less spending around the town.
@princesskaitlinhazelwood4703
@princesskaitlinhazelwood4703 3 жыл бұрын
Because even community college is really expensive. Also most of the people who go to cc are older people who are also working and supporting families. They can’t afford the risk of student loans or tuition.
@liveandletlive807
@liveandletlive807 3 жыл бұрын
I agree on community college being expensive. At my cc in Maryland a single class is 450 dollars and that's not including textbooks, transportation, etc. And a lab class will cost you around 600 dollars.
@kleparaskevas2628
@kleparaskevas2628 3 жыл бұрын
@@liveandletlive807 A single class costs 400$ that is for the whole semester ?
@DrunkenSkittlez
@DrunkenSkittlez 3 жыл бұрын
@@kleparaskevas2628 if its for one semester thats pretty cheap
@BlastinRope
@BlastinRope 3 жыл бұрын
In CA if you are low income all community costs are waived, and with the pell grant you get 9000 a year, then I had two other ca grants which gave me another 4800 a year. Plus since covid started I have gotten about 3300 in additional aid from the school. So as a low income student I have earned about 17000 dollars for attending community college this past year.
@itz_corbis1784
@itz_corbis1784 3 жыл бұрын
That true, but I think most college or university have scholarship where you don't have worry about paying your education, you can only getting if you have good grade and GPA. I am thinking about getting scholarship in university so I don't have to worry about paying a lot of money.
@killmewhileimahead
@killmewhileimahead 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t blame young people for opting out. I dropped out and didn’t return until after 30 because if I had to work my lifetime in customer service it would have been the customer or me. I chose a career path that I really like and where self employment is viable but it comes at such a cost. Not only money, but lost time as well.
@aena5995
@aena5995 3 жыл бұрын
Wht did u do instead..?our parents make it feel like theres no other way i feel too mentally unready but i feel likr gheres no other option but to get admission in some JAIL aka UNI 😭😥😥 idk wtf to do now
@killmewhileimahead
@killmewhileimahead 3 жыл бұрын
@@aena5995 at least in the USA, it’s very hard to have a comfortable life without an education. It’s possible but it didn’t work for me. I would just advise you go for something you love because otherwise it’s miserable. I went back for graphic arts/interactive media, I was doing it at a very amateur level for a few years before and wanted to do it permanently.
@abigailjimenez2148
@abigailjimenez2148 3 жыл бұрын
Not worth the time n money unless u become a doctor or study law at the Ivy League schools cuz even law school grads can’t find jobs.
@brookecarmichael3629
@brookecarmichael3629 3 жыл бұрын
I’m about to graduate high school tonight, I almost chose not to go to college. I found a way to get a full scholarship to a community college and got a job with a company that will pay for the rest of my university. If it wasn’t for that. I almost chose not to go to college. During the pandemic, it showed me not everything is as serious as people make it out to be and there are other things more important. I found Dave Ramsey and learned so much about money as well. It just made me so depressed to go into debt for something that may not even secure a job for myself. My (old) manager had a degree and only made $17 an hour. I also changed what major I would want because I do not want to get a degree in something that will close down due to a pandemic. Many people in my grade I have talked to are just going straight into the workforce, which I think is just fine.
@notkarengt3109
@notkarengt3109 3 жыл бұрын
You should listen to Rich Dad Poor dad, It's a really good book I can't stop recommending it 😂😂 It educates about fiance and managing your money.
@thecocksaysmoo
@thecocksaysmoo 3 жыл бұрын
Student loan debt has ruined my life.
@blackboxbs8642
@blackboxbs8642 3 жыл бұрын
What did you study and how much debt?
@thecocksaysmoo
@thecocksaysmoo 2 жыл бұрын
@@blackboxbs8642 Bachelors in Fine Arts. It was my stepping stone to a Master of Art Teaching but I graduated in 2008. The apartment I was renting got caught up in the housing bubble burst. It was sold out from under me without me knowing & instead of going back to get my Master's, I became homeless. I never recovered from that. Still struggling to recover from it to this day. I'm 10k in debt. I can't obtain gainful employment with a BFA. It's a pretty worthless degree unless you can successfully fulfill your Master's.
@jesusvillalba2886
@jesusvillalba2886 3 жыл бұрын
I think anyone can benefit from having a basic 4-year degree, it really opens your doors depending on your profession of interest. The problem is the extreme indifference that universities have shown towards students, as well as the sheet cost of going to school.
@miguelbermudez5426
@miguelbermudez5426 3 жыл бұрын
Depends on the degree. If ppl get a criminal justice degree, yes it is useless. A STEMs degree, no not useless.
@jenalatz3589
@jenalatz3589 3 жыл бұрын
@@miguelbermudez5426 true
@wii3willRule
@wii3willRule 3 жыл бұрын
@@miguelbermudez5426 STEM degrees like math (the "M" in STEM) also suck. Don't fall for the STEM meme
@DavisNationLlc
@DavisNationLlc 3 жыл бұрын
Cause we don’t want virtual classes
@CA2SD
@CA2SD 3 жыл бұрын
Aside professions that require degrees, some people are making more money just with a good paying job than those with a four year degree.
@lexismith8206
@lexismith8206 3 жыл бұрын
College grads typically earn more.
@mssha1980
@mssha1980 3 жыл бұрын
@@lexismith8206 not true. Please don’t believe that.
@DonaldDrunk578
@DonaldDrunk578 3 жыл бұрын
@@mssha1980 statistically proven.
@starscream6629
@starscream6629 2 жыл бұрын
@@DonaldDrunk578 If you look solely at income without accounting for their college debts with interest and use the info to solely prove a blanket statement biased point. Straight income averages says little about how well someone actually is doing outside of the extreme differences. A single mom (extremely common use case) college grad making 65k isn’t going to be as well off as someone with just a high school diploma, who’s a bachelor making 50k with no debts, who’s gotten certifications. Those figures don’t account for certifications, on-site education programs offered at corporations, nor the impact of the student debt on life events (getting a house, starting a family). Not to mention where they are living due to cost of living has a huge impact. Someone in New York City is going to be at a heavy disadvantage to someone living in salt lake due to housing, taxes, insurance costs.
@Wongseifu548
@Wongseifu548 3 жыл бұрын
Its not just a pandemic though when an entry level government position requires a masters degree to even have a shot of getting in is it any wonder why people hace given up.
@craigcarter400
@craigcarter400 3 жыл бұрын
Both of my daughters will have HS subsidized Associates at 18 (next year for one and the following year for another). They still charge $400 + books each per quarter but that’s better than it could be.
@chantlmcclary6419
@chantlmcclary6419 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a university student now and I can tell u that the process of tuition is ridiculously astounding and the process or enrolling or re - enrolling is all the more difficult when it doesn't have to be of course thus is happening and for good reason.
@jasonrobertson8487
@jasonrobertson8487 3 жыл бұрын
They have priced themselves out of reality.
@DJTerrisMist
@DJTerrisMist 3 жыл бұрын
I was paying 10k a semester to sit in a room with 200+ ppl to listen to a guy talk about his education from about 50 years prior. He made us buy his book for the class, and it was the only book we needed. The entire class was based on one test at the end, and he told us we didn't need to show up until the test. I resigned from my university and I never looked back. I learned more at community college and I found the teachers were more dedicated to their students.
@LaDeeDah
@LaDeeDah 3 жыл бұрын
My son is 7 and he asked if I want him to go to college. I always reply "I want you to have the choice, if you can get a free ride by having scholarships or if you can have the money saved". Would much rather him hand select the specific skills and education he needs and start a business.
@cedrictitus3154
@cedrictitus3154 3 жыл бұрын
Nobody is interested in wearing a mask in a classroom.
@rjwrangler9715
@rjwrangler9715 3 жыл бұрын
Well put ffff the masks
@kaytee5031
@kaytee5031 3 жыл бұрын
This is probably at the very bottom of the list of reasons why people are no longer going to college if it even makes it.
@veronicaelliott9582
@veronicaelliott9582 3 жыл бұрын
The books at junior college are just as expensive as books at colleges and universities.
@Gothiqueluv
@Gothiqueluv 3 жыл бұрын
Very true!
@jeanp.5929
@jeanp.5929 3 жыл бұрын
because it's the same education. The tuition maybe different but the professors are picking the same textbook professors at 4 year schools would pick.
@Gothiqueluv
@Gothiqueluv 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeanp.5929 Very true! All we are paying for is the name. It's all the same Blackboard, Connect, or McGraw-Hill.
@Gothiqueluv
@Gothiqueluv 3 жыл бұрын
@Gina Harvey IKR? And the paper is as thin as TP! I have discount printer paper that's thicker. What a joke!
@markmoreno7295
@markmoreno7295 2 жыл бұрын
I was one of the last students who got in just as prices were going up. At the community college the fees were $17 per unit and we were on the semester. Typical for me was 12 to 18 units. Later, at the University I attended, the fee was much higher, $163/quarter with the minimum at 36 units over the year. Books, supplies, room, and board were extra. I therefore worked during college which hurt my grades. I graduated with a degree in Biology. I unofficially minored in art, and marine biology. I graduated with roughly 230 units in total. It took be 2 years to pay off my accumulated debt of 3 thousand dollars. I was lucky compared to kids in school these days. I am no academic and would have been better served at a trade, but the subject was never brought up by any of my so called advisors. Still, I do not begrudge my days spent in school. I particularly enjoyed learning about the names of living creatures.
@heather1506
@heather1506 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t know why we can’t accredit community colleges to grant 4 year degrees. We would have have more college educated people and far less student loan debt
@bettysmith4527
@bettysmith4527 3 жыл бұрын
Make it affordable, and they will come. The cost of college has become INSANE! I am HIGHLY motivated to get my graduate degree, but guess what, I cannot afford it. I would have to give up my house in order to pay it in cash, or to afford paying the loans after, and that just isn't an option!
@DaveElke
@DaveElke 3 жыл бұрын
All the comments are about the cost and debt. Our community college has free tuition for the first two years. Our enrollment is still down. That I do not understand.
@MyIGNameIsSuperThickVegan
@MyIGNameIsSuperThickVegan 3 жыл бұрын
what college is this?
@Oph977
@Oph977 3 жыл бұрын
Does this include international student enrollment? I’m pretty sure a lot of international students are not coming to study.
@isaacdestura7495
@isaacdestura7495 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, Im at an international school where a lot of people study in the US, and a lot of people (who are actually pretty well off), decided against going to the US based on cost alone. It's expensive for US nationals and a total rip-off for international students. You can build a house every year for the same price
@TheConqueror14
@TheConqueror14 3 жыл бұрын
Good, go to a tech school learn real skills and get a good job.
@realdeal139
@realdeal139 3 жыл бұрын
Young kids are waking up to the fucery of these institutions. Kudos to them!
@jerrygil1965
@jerrygil1965 3 жыл бұрын
Amen
@lexismith8206
@lexismith8206 3 жыл бұрын
College is 100% worth it. It's not easy, but its doable.
@huntrrams
@huntrrams 3 жыл бұрын
When I was a senior, I went straight to community college to get rid of my Gen Eds and just transfer my credits and that saved me so much money . I noticed these students make mistakes by going straight to University.
@Victor-tl4dk
@Victor-tl4dk 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for illuminating that for me.
@MattMajcan
@MattMajcan 3 жыл бұрын
its not worth the money
@tamjeanell
@tamjeanell 3 жыл бұрын
People are slowly wising up...
@rssand6840
@rssand6840 3 жыл бұрын
It's not about skipping school entirely. It's just people are making different choices for their education. If your a student that is undecided and just needs to take undergrad first, then junior college makes a lot of sense. Student aid goes a longer way with a cheaper school too. Some times school makes more sense financially especially if it's for a STEM degree. Working a dead-end job with no further development may be just as bad as getting into some debt and potentially moving ahead. No need to get into impossible debt though. Those schools are usually predatory and the financial aid is skimpy.
@jck1213
@jck1213 3 жыл бұрын
My $1,000 tech degree is paying off my $40,000 bachelors degree at the moment and barely scratching the interest. I severely regret going to a University.
@justinschram
@justinschram 2 жыл бұрын
I regret going to a university too. I can't believe I fell for the degree scam😩 I could have a house right now with a $55,000 job instead of looking for entry level positions with $50,000 in student debt.
@orlandogodinez9746
@orlandogodinez9746 3 жыл бұрын
That’s why im in a trade school where skill trades are in demand with good pay.
@V3RITAZ_42
@V3RITAZ_42 3 жыл бұрын
If less and less people go could this possibly make having a degree an asset again?
@gibsonhan1323
@gibsonhan1323 3 жыл бұрын
Nobody wants to waste their "college experience" stuck behind a laptop. Take a gap year or 2 and explore the world. There will always be time for college. Also, there are so many MOOC classes online and free resources from the top university. If you know what you want to do in life and want to get into a research position, the 4-year university is a good move. If you don't just chill and avoid the debt trap.
@nerd23x
@nerd23x 3 жыл бұрын
I think college is just a waste of time
@aucklandsadventures
@aucklandsadventures 3 жыл бұрын
People finally woke up and realized that not everyone needs to go to college. If your college ranks in the Top 25 Party schools. You probably didn’t need to go there either.
@everydaylifewithtaboo6698
@everydaylifewithtaboo6698 3 жыл бұрын
College is very expensive, who wants to keep getting further in debt. Just to apply for a job that wants to pay 20k to 30k less than what you paid for your degree.
@Hndjdj400
@Hndjdj400 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@dorab2402
@dorab2402 2 жыл бұрын
Universities and colleges keep increasing in price and stacking on the requirements. People are getting fed up.
@Miollvynir
@Miollvynir 3 жыл бұрын
I did start grad school, but if it's any consolation I'll be in debt for a long, long time.
@Yandel21ableify
@Yandel21ableify 3 жыл бұрын
College is a scam.
@Miollvynir
@Miollvynir 3 жыл бұрын
@@Yandel21ableify Cool, enjoy not having engineers, doctors, biochemists, or any other occupation that requires extensive education. Bye.
@Yandel21ableify
@Yandel21ableify 3 жыл бұрын
@@Miollvynir HB1 visas my friend.
@dicksonm412
@dicksonm412 3 жыл бұрын
@@Yandel21ableify What about them? Majority of H1B holders have advanced degrees from US universities!
@mariahsmom9457
@mariahsmom9457 3 жыл бұрын
It is expensive but the rising tuition is to cover the decrease in state and federal funding. Tax money no longer goes to any community or social betterment like education. Lining pockets of politicians instead.
@DonaldDrunk578
@DonaldDrunk578 3 жыл бұрын
goes to blm
@rcw328
@rcw328 3 жыл бұрын
isn't the decline dude to international students not attending
@ZantiMisfit198
@ZantiMisfit198 2 жыл бұрын
Joined the Navy, got my high school GED, was a 4.0 sailor, honorably discharged in 08, been an independent trucker with my own rigs, I work 4 days a week 12 hrs. a day and pocket between 280 to 320k a year.
@olympic-ass-eater
@olympic-ass-eater 2 жыл бұрын
Do you need to own a truck?
@amanchandekar4075
@amanchandekar4075 3 жыл бұрын
College is so expensive and does not provide job
@JTDyer21
@JTDyer21 3 жыл бұрын
College is ok but it's not worth the debt. Pay cash or don't bother.
@anadominguez8523
@anadominguez8523 3 жыл бұрын
Cash paying is very difficult, I’m finishing my grad school program this fall and it took me 4 years to finish because I needed to secure tuition before enrolling every semester. Paying for college out of pocket means living paycheck by paycheck for several years. I wish there would be more options but reality is sad. Being financially limited brings more stress to your life on top of having a job, a family and class work.
@JTDyer21
@JTDyer21 3 жыл бұрын
@@anadominguez8523, life is difficult. An education is great but there's truly no guarantee that education will pay off. That's the real world. Adding debt only adds more risk. Pay cash is difficult but it's also difficult when your up to your eyeballs in debt. Then you add way more stress. So either way you go it's difficult. The best solution is to crunch your time. By that I mean pay cash or if you do have some debt you better balance it out by getting through school lightning quick. That's the key. GET THROUGH SCHOOL SUPER SONIC QUICK. Even if you pay cash you still gotta get through in a hurry. Otherwise you lose steam and the whole college experience is a bust.
@Gothiqueluv
@Gothiqueluv 3 жыл бұрын
@@JTDyer21 How are you supposed to pay for it if you don't have a job that requires that degree?
@JTDyer21
@JTDyer21 3 жыл бұрын
@@Gothiqueluv, well one way to pay for school is to work. I worked while attending college, especially over the summer months. One summer I saved up $8,000 cash to pay my tuition and living expenses. I paid my rent for basically the whole year with a major portion of that $8,000 so I could go. If your rent is prepaid for the year it's a lot easier to go to school cause your living expenses are much cheaper.
@Gothiqueluv
@Gothiqueluv 3 жыл бұрын
@@anadominguez8523 Very true! Btw, congratulations for fighting it out and finishing this fall. :-)
@karenhardie1132
@karenhardie1132 3 жыл бұрын
There also are less kids graduating from high school. Birth rate is at an all time low.
@merissacooper6539
@merissacooper6539 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh lmao
@blackboxbs8642
@blackboxbs8642 3 жыл бұрын
Birth rate is different from actual number which is all time high. Dont tell me you are a college hippie
@jerrygil1965
@jerrygil1965 3 жыл бұрын
Whut?
@napoleonwhitehorse971
@napoleonwhitehorse971 3 жыл бұрын
Does this include this upcoming semester!?
@LuisFlores-mc2tc
@LuisFlores-mc2tc 3 жыл бұрын
Glad people are starting to understand that college is no longer needed. It's 2021 if you want to learn anything just look it up. Take certification exams and take up internships to build credablility and a resume. The rising cost of college and the shriveling job opportunities, its getting more risky to take on thousands of dollars of debt.
@romaskincare9138
@romaskincare9138 3 жыл бұрын
Good. It's no longer as beneficial to attend Colleges and Universities. They are SUPER expensive and leave people in $100,000K of debt in an economy where rent/mortgage and living expenses keep going up while there are fewer jobs and salaries are stagnant. . Instead of a $100,000K debt for a degee in Comparative Modern Musicology, a trade school is a much better decision. You learn a usable skill for a high demand profession. . UNLESS the kid needs a degree for his/her/their career, such as for medical, engineering, legal ...etc profession where the university credentials are a requirement, - a university degree is just simply outdated. ...
@iseeflowers
@iseeflowers 3 жыл бұрын
Community colleges cut some classes during the pandemic so spaces were limited for the past months.
@amapparatistkwabena
@amapparatistkwabena 3 жыл бұрын
I’d like to see a break down for online enrollment. I enrolled in a teacher’s certification preparation course and graduate school at the beginning of the pandemic last winter (2020) and am graduating from a fully accredited university with my master’s degree this week. My university announced all last year that enrollment was booming! We’ve grown some 20% year over year. Maybe “traditional” higher education is experiencing a downturn, but for those who are flexible and enjoy technology-this time has been a dream!
@EwYoureCringe
@EwYoureCringe 3 жыл бұрын
I am shocked community college enrollment is so down! I started my A.S. for computer science in the beginning of the pandemic (possible since it was online) and I am almost finished. Most of the classes have tons more of people.
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