Understanding Coffee Extraction Defects from an Espresso Machine

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Understanding Coffee Extraction Defects from an Espresso Machine

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In this video Joel here at Artisti Coffee Roasters takes a closer look at the coffee puck and things we can look at to help identify problematic issues within a coffee extraction. Loading a handle to run a beautiful coffee extraction through an espresso machine takes a little bit of care and with some of Joel's advice here you'll be nailing them in no time.
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@scott-wright 4 жыл бұрын

I've been looking up and down throughout the net to find exactly a video like this. Super easy to understand and some great tips. Cheers!

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Scott. :)

@SonuKumar-ff4fd 2 жыл бұрын

@@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters sir I have one question my la marzocco pb if I make it expresso why coming in bubble plz reply

@Mike2707section Жыл бұрын

me too😂

@stereoboost 4 жыл бұрын

I never thought drinking coffee is this complicated lol i realized only after i got my own espresso machine

@1983Jacko 3 жыл бұрын

at first yea lol but it's fun and you end up making great coffee!

@hawkeyeted Жыл бұрын

Same here. I always knew espresso was a "thing", but i never realized it was a "specific thing." Once I wrapped my head around that, my espresso making became much better.

@MichaelKire 4 жыл бұрын

This is the first time i've come across the different outcomes from extraction defects in such a deep level and told nice and easy to understand. Thumbs up!

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Michael. Glad you enjoyed it!

@thomasczthomash1859 4 жыл бұрын

Aussies don't fuck about mate

@hpjarvis 4 жыл бұрын

You were on 99 likes so I liked your comment to get you to 100. You’re welcome.

@amirsalous4507 3 жыл бұрын

you should watch james hoffman then

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 4 жыл бұрын

Hit a thumbs up if you want to see more coffee related videos like this! Subscribe, become a part of our coffee community and help us keep doing what we love. Thank you :) 👍

@CapDrew 4 жыл бұрын

What’s the grinder called?

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 4 жыл бұрын

@@CapDrew Hi Andrew it's a anfim sp2. :)

@CapDrew 4 жыл бұрын

Artisti Coffee Roasters thanks !

@ggivensjr 3 жыл бұрын

Great video please do more on same subject. Also, what will you do to get down to 36 second target or is 2 seconds not critical? Is there a reason you didn't use bottomless portafilter? Was it to prevent mess from possible channeling? Is there anything that can be done to overcome an inconsistent grind other than a more expensive grinder? I am have a Breville Smart Grinder Pro $200 do I have to now buy a $600 Vario-w to get a better grind for a more consistent output especially if I want to use a bottomless or naked portafilter?

@pkerry12 3 жыл бұрын

Your a professional and u don’t use a coffee distributor? U use your finger!!

@cptbaker 5 ай бұрын

It's crazy how far we've come in 4 years since this video and how on point it was, even back when WDT's and DTs weren't widely used, now it's just common knowledge even at beginner levels. Love the vid, as it's just as relevant, if not more today than when it first came out ❤☕❤

@sushimamba4281 4 жыл бұрын

Finally, someone who actually knows a lot about making great coffee...

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 4 жыл бұрын

Appreciate your comment! Thanks :)

@thenigelfinley1 4 жыл бұрын

I would have liked to see some close up shots and using a naked porta filter. Other than that it was a pretty good explanation.

@Ab0minati0n 4 жыл бұрын

Amazing. Just tried your technique and went from constant under-extraction to a perfect extraction. Thanks so much.

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 4 жыл бұрын

So good Brad! This is the best result and why we do it!!!

@kyledarrenhanson 2 ай бұрын

Excellent video, more of this in-depth real world is appreciated.

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 2 ай бұрын

Thank you 🙏🏻 Glad you liked it!

@BrettYoakum 3 жыл бұрын

That was by far the best example of how coffee distribution can affect the outcome that I've seen yet

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the feedback. We appreciate supporting our channel

@adamward4909 8 ай бұрын

I love how you are thinking deeply about distribution...and how you use a tapping technique to settle the grinds properly. There is another way to extract a puck though. I've used and owned many machines and have pulled thousands of shots to qualify this...once I started using pure manual machines (no springs) I discovered that creating pressure through the swelling of the puck in the confined space is a great method. It allows you to preinfuse and steep properly...because after you've preinfused and swollen you can start and stop without consequence. This allows you to create stages of extraction, speed and pressure...allowing you to emulsify the best oils early. This method means you don't weigh the beans...instead the volume after tamping is integral...and that's a good skill to aquire because there are many roast that tamp and behave differently. In this method you only tamp any given roast until you feel a bit of push back. Nice video.

@beautytube1 2 жыл бұрын

Did he say “We’ve got no time to muck around”? As someone who hates cursing, I love it! His accent is adorable ☺️

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 2 жыл бұрын

👌🏼

@suenovak6200 4 жыл бұрын

Wow, well done, I have a home Barista express machine, grinds the beans, etc, but I am still trying to perfect my coffee, 6 months down the line, I have never though too much about this aspect, determined to give it a try, I was starting to miss my Aldi Coffee pods.....they were always consistent🤦‍♀️

@ksoman953 4 жыл бұрын

This is a very good video with no pretentiousness that many other "espresso" videos have on KZfaq. Big thank you!

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much for your comment! Much appreciated. Glad to hear you enjoyed the video :)

@alexcrouse 3 жыл бұрын

Even with engine noises and an echo, your presentation was perfectly understandable and clear as a bell! Fantastic work. Thank you!

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 3 жыл бұрын

Ha ha yes we do have some noisy neighbors unfortunately! Glad to hear that you enjoyed the video :)

@cpg8000 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the clear and direct explanation of this technique. I didn’t know distribution could have such a major effect on the extraction. Well done, and cheers!

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 2 жыл бұрын

You welcome 👌🏼

@ashleyslingers2814 2 жыл бұрын

Loved how that technique made such a difference

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 2 жыл бұрын

👌🏼

@dreaminez472 2 жыл бұрын

This helps, thank you. Sometimes I pull a really fast shot (

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 2 жыл бұрын

Yes. Or it can lift up as well if too fine and a lower dose 👍🏻

@MatthewJL676 3 жыл бұрын

This video is outstanding. I have exactly this issue with inconsistent underextraction and burnt edges around the puck. Thanks so much!

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 3 жыл бұрын

Our pleasure!

@christinescurr1111 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks SO much, your great presentation has confirmed what I feel has been happening with my home espresso machine. The grind is correct, but the auto tamp on my machine isn’t and it’s causing weak spots and especially at the edge around the filter basket. From now on, I’ll manually make sure the coffee in the basket is ready for extraction as you’ve described.

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome. Thanks

@Alyssa-xo4jh Жыл бұрын

This was one of the most helpful Espresso videos I’ve ever seen. I could not for the life of me figure out what was going wrong with my extraction because if I changed the grind size either way, the coffee would get worse! This makes so much sense. Thank you!

@Roodsteam 9 ай бұрын

this comment sounds like its written by AI 😅

@lucasolivares5464 2 жыл бұрын

Love how there wasn’t any ads to see this video!

@lucasolivares5464 2 жыл бұрын

Lol nevermind

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 2 жыл бұрын

😅

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 2 жыл бұрын

🤭

@williambennett6526 4 жыл бұрын

Excellent. in all the videos I have seen on coffee I have not seen much or any focus on this subject matter which as demonstrated has a substantial impact on the outcome. Great advice. Thanks.

@jeffinjohnson9054 4 жыл бұрын

Officially know now, my phone is literally reading my mind. Was thinking all day at work about why my extracting wasnt working well but guess what?! Open KZfaq to see how to do it properly and boom this is in my suggested videos lol.

@mtksbctk 4 жыл бұрын

Focus your mind on your work man, unless you work as a barista

@jeffinjohnson9054 4 жыл бұрын

@@mtksbctk haha yea I started as a barista 2 weeks ago

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 4 жыл бұрын

Wow mind reading! haha

@richardaristeo8394 4 ай бұрын

Learning and practice is the key. Technique is essential and should be consistent everytime, adjusting is base on type of coffee beans. Warmer ever I use different vendors or products I change the settings of my grinder and the volume of coffee in the portafilter till I achieve the flavor.

@geoffdyke702 2 жыл бұрын

Great Job. The best analysis on coffee extraction defects.

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you

@juliedalberg6834 Жыл бұрын

Months of struggling with our Breville Barista Touch trying to dial it in, just solved in a matter of minutes after watching this video.

@fethiam755 3 жыл бұрын

السلام عليكم و رحمة الله وبراكاته 😊 شرح طريقة الصحيحة في تحضير قهوة النيسبريسو في القمة 😇 Salut à tous 😉 Merci beaucoup pour votre vlogue. Très bonne explication de la technique de préparation d'un café Nespresso 😇

@andrewpratt4481 3 жыл бұрын

This is an awesome video which has helped me immensely. I have been struggling to get consistent extractions but will get to work and practice what you have shown me. Thank you! Appreciate it!!

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 3 жыл бұрын

Let us know how you go!

@cordivar 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this informative video, as a new barista i'm constantly researching, and learning from all sources, and this was one of the more understandable, and palatable videos I have watched.

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Eltrian!

@mariosiaven2965 4 жыл бұрын

THAT WAS VERY WELL EXPLAINED AND TECHNICAL I REALLY APPRECIATE THE ADVICE HERE

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 4 жыл бұрын

👍🏻

@kylejabrown 4 жыл бұрын

Love the details that you shared with us in this video! Next time I would love to see close-ups of what you’re talking about. While your description as good as people tend to be a little bit more visual and that will help them understand what the shot should look like based on the adjustments made. Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us!

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback Kyle, good to hear you enjoyed it! :)

@Siris6771 9 ай бұрын

Almost no where I've gone has put an emphasis on the importance of proper distribution. I would get wildly different results even though I thought I was doing the same thing. Once I learned this, my espresso got significantly better and actually made it possible to adjust things to make it exactly how I like

@mystikmeg 3 жыл бұрын

One of the most useful videos I’ve found as I start my journey of turning terrible shots into something better.

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 3 жыл бұрын

Glad we could help with this video! Good luck on the endless journey for amazing Esprssso

@jeffreyvaldes7783 2 жыл бұрын

Impressive: a very detailed explanation with objective arguments. Thank you.

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers

@dhletro 3 жыл бұрын

Enjoyed the class. Ignore the downers, they're not coffee folks! Subscribed to learn more. Thanks ☕😎

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 3 жыл бұрын

Good to hear that you enjoyed it. Cheers

@viktorkos1893 2 жыл бұрын

Great video, really fills in the gaps (pun intended) that other videos miss to mention!

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you

@dtaylor4319 3 жыл бұрын

Great video, thanks for explaining the good and bad points so clearly, although a few close ups would have made it an excellent video :-) I've taken a couple of your points on-board and the quality of my coffee has already been drastically improved!

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 3 жыл бұрын

Glad to here, yes this was one of our earliest videos. 🤙🏻

@zaffranzahirasoffiyafunkno8346 3 жыл бұрын

hello from Malaysia!!!! its a really good video👍👍!!. helps me alot to improve my extraction!! thank you very muchhh sir👍👍👍

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 3 жыл бұрын

🤜🏻

@zaffranzahirasoffiyafunkno8346 3 жыл бұрын

i've tried your method in brewing espresso. mainly in how you distribute the coffee by tapping the portafilter on the edge of the table and the way you tamp the ground coffee. surprisingly!!,it does make a huge difference in the way the machine extract the grounds during brewing!!!. my extraction time is now much better & the quality of my espresso is getting good results!!.. i really appreciate your video!! Thank you very muchh!!!

@stephenpeacock9427 Жыл бұрын

Good work. As a new barista I found this nice back up.

@tihsetihw75 4 жыл бұрын

Rrreeeaaallyy helpful to see. Thanks so much! So simple experience, you would not expect that much, and yet the results speak by themselves! Happy tamping to all

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Charles. :)

@peteractive1 2 жыл бұрын

Extremely massive information, now I know why I'm sometimes getting less flavour

@keithpp1 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent explanation of coffee extraction.

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@ad_Benturing 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this informative video! A new barista here. I want to learn more about serving the best cup of coffee to everyone. Good to learn this technique

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 4 жыл бұрын

Great to hear that you're finding our content useful and best of luck with you new career as a barista!

@purenatural5736 4 жыл бұрын

At last a video actually explaining you how to do a good coffee. Thanks for the upload.

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 4 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@lpsmaduk 4 жыл бұрын

Also love the “espresso shuffle”, might find a pot and do that!

@sharifahnnantongo8256 4 жыл бұрын

I like ur grinder

@livinginwilderness7913 4 жыл бұрын

You did an excellent job! Thank you!! I always have those air bubbles 2-3 days after filling my grinder hopper, which causes the grind to come out slightly moist compared to when I first open the bean bag. Shaking the ground coffee with the doser is brilliant. Will try that.

@sunshineiv1 Жыл бұрын

I am a total home beginner and would like any suggestions on why a get a lot of water settled on top of my puck when I have finished my cup? Have I packed the espresso down to hard or is my grind too fine?

@DahrienD Жыл бұрын

This was very helpful! Thank you

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters Жыл бұрын

Our Pleasure

@jurajspisak 4 жыл бұрын

Nice and clear explanation. Thank you!

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 4 жыл бұрын

🤜🏻

@jakevan1969 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome video. Thanks!

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 3 жыл бұрын

Cheers

@loveiseternity 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. No pucking around.

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 2 жыл бұрын

😂

@bheinatz1 3 жыл бұрын

That was EXTREMELY helpful! Thank you!

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 3 жыл бұрын

Our pleasure

@michaelballinger6419 3 жыл бұрын

So very well explained and done

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you 🙏🏻

@Lumanix1 3 жыл бұрын

Now that's what you call a Pro Well done mate. Amazing content for us all to learn from

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 3 жыл бұрын

Cheers 🤙🏻

@jimboharshfield9572 3 ай бұрын

Well done. Useful.

@brianrowland9993 3 жыл бұрын

Great explanation and demonstration to highlight the importance of distribution. Perhaps one of the most misunderstood aspects of correct dialing in the grind. 👍 Subscribed!

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, we will do more On this topic! 👍🏻

@chrisbutterz1519 4 жыл бұрын

This video was extremely helpful, clear, and to the point. Thank you for the tips!

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment Chris! Great to hear you enjoyed the video :)

@trevinated 3 жыл бұрын

Great video. I appreciate the attention to detail and explanation regarding the importance of the distribution. I think this will help me get a much more consistent result on my home Dual boiler setup.

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you

@Tismar10 4 жыл бұрын

Eye opener!!!!!

@zanzibarbob7 3 жыл бұрын

Great video and constructive. One of the best explanations I have seen. Thanks!

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 3 жыл бұрын

so glad it help you.

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 2 жыл бұрын

Very welcome 🤗

@420HEADY 2 жыл бұрын

Wow, great video bro

@AlonAbraham1 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much, this was very helpful and well explanied☺️🍮

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 4 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@odonkers 3 жыл бұрын

You guys now your stuff ! Excellent !

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 3 жыл бұрын

Much appreciated!

@mrshlokemperor848 Жыл бұрын

Well thank you so much it really helped

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters Жыл бұрын

Awesome to hear! Thank you :)

@dustinmarsel2892 4 жыл бұрын

Super informative! Not a whole lot to find on youtube about finding defects in the puck. Note to self I need to get one of those grinding cups

@000GunterGabriel000 4 жыл бұрын

Same here. Did you find anything useful?

@lucyguerrero284 3 жыл бұрын

Great explanation on the extraction!

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@TomAmy 3 жыл бұрын

I think we see this a lot in the industry where baristas get so caught up in the numbers,!extraction time and output weight they forget to taste the shot they’ve just pulled.

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, there are many out there as well that do not drink coffee at all. 😂

@danielirvine7468 3 жыл бұрын

Nice work man

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 3 жыл бұрын

thank you we appreciate your support.

@Kryndon64 4 жыл бұрын

I'm by no means a professional nor an enthusiast. I am just looking for ways to improve my home-made espresso cups of coffee. This video has helped me get more insight of what's happening. I use a simple Rowenta espresso machine which doesn't have any settings. What I do is I load the portafilter with about 14 grams of ground coffee bought from the store. I don't have a tamping tool but I have found a tall glass cup which fits PERFECTLY inside the top of the filter. So I use that to tamp on the coffee and even it out. I then slide it in until it's fairly tight and extract for about 25-28 seconds. Sometimes the coffee is very watery, sometimes the flavor is barely noticeable. I just bought a replacement portafilter because the old one broke. Do you think I should try to level out the coffee with my finger before tamping it? Would how tightly I screw on the portafilter affect anything too?

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 4 жыл бұрын

Kryndon64 there is so much to unpack here! I would definitely recommend distributing the grind in the basket. Also I have found investment in good quality equipment more than pays for itself in extraction improvements. (Get a proper tamper) Another thing I would recommend is investing in a grinder and using a good quality coffee freshly ground. How tightly the portafilter is on should not affect the extraction. Thanks for watching. 👍🏻

@alextheking1988 3 жыл бұрын

So helpful, thank you very much! Alex

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 3 жыл бұрын

You're very welcome!

@simonmonty7171 2 жыл бұрын

I get that seal break that you explained around the puck. Unsure what to do about it. Maybe i'm temping too hard..

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 2 жыл бұрын

Lower your dose of coffee 👍🏻

@Zensa06 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this very helpful video! I just got my machine and grinder last week. In my first 20 or so shots, I kept getting spurts coming from the basket/bottomless portafilter. After doing the "shake" this morning with my dosing cup, the spurting went away! Prior to doing this, I would WDT with a paperclip, which I thought would distribute the grinds evenly (obviously not). Went from under-extracted to a more balanced shot this morning!

@Wfhii 3 жыл бұрын

Very Well Done !! Thank you

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 3 жыл бұрын

Cheers

@amigo._a Жыл бұрын

Thank you

@ayushsaxena1301 2 жыл бұрын

Nicely done. :))

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you 🙏🏻

@Delmar829 4 жыл бұрын

Geat instruction !!!!!!!! Well done sir.

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks @Delmar829

@cooldesertknight9013 2 жыл бұрын

A very helpful and informative video👍 Salaam to you and to all.

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks 😊

@SantiagogranadosR 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, great video!!!

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 2 жыл бұрын

Your welcome 🤗

@johntisbury 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks you, most helpful

@eltonnoway7864 4 жыл бұрын

Was really intrigued by the automatic Pugpress tamping station he was using... until I went looking for it and found it along with a hefty price tag of $1,190 USD... YIKES!..

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 4 жыл бұрын

Yes a bit pricey, but it really helps consistency and reduces staff injury. When your doing 50-100kg of coffee per week it’s an essential tool

@eltonnoway7864 4 жыл бұрын

@@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters No argument for a cafe or coffee shop... just a little pricey for someone who only pulls two or three shots a day ;)

@explorewithsteggie1913 2 жыл бұрын

This is great information but I could use a close up view during extraction

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 2 жыл бұрын

Look out for version 2 coming soon with more close ups, your not the only person to say this.

@Lakesideforge 4 жыл бұрын

So simple, so nuanced. Great demonstration and explanation, much appreciated! Cheers

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 4 жыл бұрын

Our pleasure

@Bor8O3I5 Жыл бұрын

Super content.

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters Жыл бұрын

Thank you

@jassazimma8082 Жыл бұрын

I’ve really learned a lot from this video thank you so much 🙏

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@Wayne-fe1ed 2 жыл бұрын

That really was good and informative. Thanks heaps.

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 2 жыл бұрын

👍🏻

@arunmirchandani8131 2 жыл бұрын

I will try doing this tomorrow. I have been having heck of a time getting good crema in 27-28sec. I was going after 14gm of ground coffee to give me 50-60ml in 28sec and havent been able to achieve that.

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 2 жыл бұрын

The 50-60ml is very big ratio 1 to 4, try getting it to 1 to 2 so 30ml. Start to weight the liquid to get these more accurate

@syumassh 4 жыл бұрын

Path of least resistance mate. 😂 not least path of resistance. Awesome info nonetheless!

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 4 жыл бұрын

fair dinkum ozzie!

@jimzcoi 4 жыл бұрын

This shaking is the key here I guess. It makes the heavier parts of beans to go to the bottom, and the ligher at the top. Definitely will add that to my coffee routine! Simple, but brilliant trick!

@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks @jimzcoi