In your ESPRESSO MACHINE which PORTAFILTER BASKET should you use?

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Artisti Coffee Roasters.

Artisti Coffee Roasters.

4 жыл бұрын

This is another video in Joel's series to minimize espresso extraction defects and improve the consistency of your coffee.
Single basket? Double wall basket? 14 gram basket? 18 gram basket? 21 gram basket? Double shot basket? Do you know the difference between the portafilter baskets available for use in your coffee machine and how that will effect the way your coffee is brewed? Also, which group handle should you use? Single spout, double or naked handle? In this video you learn about all the differences and which option will be the best choice for you to get the best results out of your espresso machine.
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@mdem5059
@mdem5059 4 жыл бұрын
Great video ~ Wish I found this ages ago when I first started out. The information about how much coffee to use per shot around the internet is great and all but as you said the lacking information about the basket size is vital... I struggled with this so much before I read more and finally connected the dots... I was over dosing my basket by so much and could never work out why my coffee tasted awful. Then I finally connected the dots and lowered my coffee dose down by a massive margin it was like music in my mouth, haha. I finally got myself a basket funnel and a palm distro / calibrated tamp and it's made making coffee in my home machine 10x easier and quicker. The little tamper that comes with the machine isn't great for long term use. I use a breville barista express machine for reference.
@ogoe_joeoutdoors1088
@ogoe_joeoutdoors1088 3 жыл бұрын
I realize this comment is almost a year old but I bought the same machine about six months and have yet to produce consistent shots. What setting do you have your dispenser set for (grinder) on a double shot?
@mdem5059
@mdem5059 3 жыл бұрын
@@ogoe_joeoutdoors1088 Since the post, I've dosed 18-18.5g coffee grinds to 35-40g output in around 35-40 seconds. Grind size is changed depending how fast or slow it pulls. I also bought myself a dosing cup because I found the funnel a pain in the a$$ to work with long term. Hope it helps.
@ogoe_joeoutdoors1088
@ogoe_joeoutdoors1088 3 жыл бұрын
@@mdem5059 Thank you for your reply
@ylyl7118
@ylyl7118 2 жыл бұрын
Add milk and honey so the shots are always consistently blessed.
@HS99876
@HS99876 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, watched so many other videos, you are the only one who mentioned the problem with single basket! Thank you
@Kazzukki
@Kazzukki 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the video and greetings from Finland! Your idea that I should ditch my single-shot basket saved me a whole lot of tears. I used a day or two just to make a decent dubbio with my new Sage Barista Touch™. I cried that now I have to make all the setup necessary for a single-shot espresso. Now I think that even for the sake of constant and homogeneous quality I should only prepare my espresso using the double basket.
@MrArdytube
@MrArdytube 4 жыл бұрын
A great video that covers some very basic material that is almost always glossed over in other videos
@bsh3p
@bsh3p 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for talking about single shot baskets, out of all the training videos I've watched this is the first time it's been discussed.
@SurfandSand808
@SurfandSand808 4 жыл бұрын
Holy crap. Thanks for that information on the single basket shape. It really helped me figure out some problems with my pull.
@giodc8599
@giodc8599 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, never thought about it. I tend to use the single shot basket which holds 12gr as i only drink short black. However, i'll try the double and see what kind of flavours i get.
@amitsissodiya
@amitsissodiya 3 жыл бұрын
Hey hi there thanks I really felt so true whatever you told about filter basket and handel types I have gaggia classic pro and have been through such doubts but there you go all correct each and every topic Really a must to watch your video for the biggners in coffee and I appreciate that thanks 😊
@Currrn
@Currrn 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Super useful, especially about the single shot basket!
@guschen3380
@guschen3380 4 жыл бұрын
Start learning this and this is the exact information I need but missing in a lot of video I watched
@JamesPascazio
@JamesPascazio 4 жыл бұрын
Very helpful video! Also the cafe looks really neat.
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 4 жыл бұрын
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@vinayakcommar260
@vinayakcommar260 2 жыл бұрын
Please help using
@gerdajacobi8237
@gerdajacobi8237 5 ай бұрын
This was very valuable. You explained all the concepts and the rationale for what you recommend so clearly. Your explanations helped me understand the principles of making espresso, the "why," which helped me clarify the "what" and the "how."
@jcasetnl
@jcasetnl 3 жыл бұрын
I miss cafes from the '90s which were comfy, inviting and unique. Cafes today are so minimalist and look like science labs. They seem designed to get you to leave as soon as possible.
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately that can be their goal, to get you in and out so they can make enough money to pay for their incredibly expensive coffee machine 😆
@7531monkey
@7531monkey Жыл бұрын
Old people miss all kinds of stupid things.
@jcasetnl
@jcasetnl Жыл бұрын
@@7531monkey Mostly we miss before bots trying to create generational divides.
@mgill64
@mgill64 4 жыл бұрын
Just brilliant! Joel is so articulate and clear in his explanations, it's easy to take in. I love how he's happy to "throw away the double wall and single shot baskets". Too cool. I spent days trying to pull a good single shot and thought it was me, the machine, the coffee, everything but the basket. If you're wanting to economise, perhaps home 'barista' style coffee is not for you? I love this, have subscribed, will be watching more videos and learning form this channel as it's so practical, clear and cuts through so much of the BS that's out there, which can make it seem rather daunting to the hopeful hobby barista like me (novice). I was starting to think I'd taken on more than I can chew with buying an expensive manual machine, but this gives me hope. Thanks guys.... And enjoy the journey peeps! Awesome.
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the video! Yep, Joel sure knows his coffee info.............inside out! :) Thanks for tuning in and hopefully you continue to get something out of our videos. Cheers
@MrDschubba
@MrDschubba 4 жыл бұрын
Helpful info. Answered all my questions thanks.
@googoogjoobgoogoogjoob
@googoogjoobgoogoogjoob 3 жыл бұрын
I wish I'd see this 10 years ago - that's how long I've been messing about with a Gaggia single-shot basket, and never getting a good espresso!
@AnonYmous-wf1oz
@AnonYmous-wf1oz 2 жыл бұрын
Depending on what model gaggia you have, you can crank that pressure down to 9 bars, get a bottomless portadilyer and a precision basket and itll feel like a brand new machine.
@JimNortonsAlcoholism
@JimNortonsAlcoholism 2 жыл бұрын
At this point I would move on. Espresso is a scam
@M_C79
@M_C79 2 жыл бұрын
@@AnonYmous-wf1oz How does one do that? I have a Carezza Deluxe, don't know if it's possible to adjust the pressure on it
@MikeFLHT
@MikeFLHT 3 жыл бұрын
I have seen many videos on explaining baskets and portafilters and this is the absolute best from start to finish. Great job.
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏🏻
@atticustay1
@atticustay1 4 ай бұрын
Ah, too much waffle about pressurised baskets
@rgreasby1
@rgreasby1 4 жыл бұрын
Great informative video. Thank you.
@edsalem5777
@edsalem5777 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, you articulate well. I listened to your advice and making much better espresso now!!
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 3 жыл бұрын
Glad we could help.!
@custardman
@custardman 3 жыл бұрын
Thank for explaining the issues of the truncated basket. No wonder I haven't been able to get the same result as my other straight wall basket.
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 3 жыл бұрын
No worries at all. So glad to hear our video has helped you out :)
@mvgolov
@mvgolov 4 жыл бұрын
Спасибо за видео! Правильная мысль: не стоит готовить напиток в одиночных корзинах. Готовьте своим гостям вкусный кофе!
@robm5889
@robm5889 3 жыл бұрын
Extremely helpful for a newcomer. I couldn't figure out why my shots where mostly lame until watching this.
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 3 жыл бұрын
So glad we could help you. Happy brewing! 👊🏻
@scottmcginn2169
@scottmcginn2169 3 жыл бұрын
Guys at the coffee place I went years ago almost always used the naked. I used to love watching as the newer baristas got caught out.
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 3 жыл бұрын
😂 yes they are cool. And also a challenge if your not keeping an eye on the shots 👍🏻
@jasonyannuccelli2499
@jasonyannuccelli2499 3 жыл бұрын
Another very interesting video mate..thank you. I have to say that although there are many many great coffee experts very generously sharing their knowledge on youtube , it's really nice to tune in to an Aussie..! Awesome content mate. Thanks heaps and Hi from Brissy ;-)
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers, we appreciate it.
@jennideans
@jennideans 4 жыл бұрын
Ex excellent explanation thank you
@rayallen8134
@rayallen8134 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that very useful and informative video. You have helped me a lot.
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome and glad to hear it helped you :)
@dennistherocker
@dennistherocker 4 жыл бұрын
VERY INFORMATIVE , THANK YOU .
@nikosraptis1985
@nikosraptis1985 4 жыл бұрын
Far out mate !!!! Love this video :-) What you believe is the optimal basket size for a home setup ? How many grams ? Cheers
@sdjohnston67
@sdjohnston67 4 жыл бұрын
Great explanation!
@glenntomlinson2834
@glenntomlinson2834 3 жыл бұрын
I have been struggling with the single basket that came with my ECM for a couple of years now. I have never had a good explanation of why I should not use it, the explanations are usually "its hard to get right, takes practice...etc.". Thanks for helping me retire the single.
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
@bebetterbone689
@bebetterbone689 Ай бұрын
Answered all my questions in one video, awesome
@maurodelgadoo
@maurodelgadoo 3 жыл бұрын
Hey! Make a video talking about how to get a good “coffe espresso recipe” using light roast coffee and dark roast coffee, you know the difference between the roasts (temperature of the water, dose, time extraction, etc). Thanks a lot ! You made a great video!
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. 🙏🏻
@Wyman642
@Wyman642 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video on an often overlooked topic. Many thanks from beautiful California.
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 2 жыл бұрын
Thank youb
@momwhoknowz3758
@momwhoknowz3758 2 жыл бұрын
Wow the tip that was the best was the grinder fresh ground roast to get the best start store bought and fresh made the difference!!!!!!!
@wicklowjohn
@wicklowjohn 3 жыл бұрын
Really cool video. Extremely helpful and clear. Cheers
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@KzLollapalooza
@KzLollapalooza 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your videos and teachings!
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers thank you 😊
@andrewjones2183
@andrewjones2183 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation...helped me heaps
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Andrew!
@rommiemex9532
@rommiemex9532 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks
@davtona
@davtona 4 жыл бұрын
I’d be interested in seeing a VST vs IMS discussion, as well as optimum basket for given doses on a 1:2 basis. HTH. Otherwise good info, the pressurised basket was never used in my set up, and the single basket was disappointing, despite playing with pre-infusion times, although not having a BPF I’d assumed it was channelling just from the taste and early blonding. Thanking for posting btw. 👍😷
@uberkerem
@uberkerem 3 жыл бұрын
Ims without hesitation
@joeribt
@joeribt 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for this - very useful!
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 4 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome!
@bobjohnson9491
@bobjohnson9491 3 жыл бұрын
Wish I could give more than 1 thumbs up. Best vid I've seen this year.
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks bob!
@mitzitwilight2995
@mitzitwilight2995 4 жыл бұрын
Very informative,,Thanks....well presented
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 4 жыл бұрын
👍🏻
@ivanhancock
@ivanhancock 4 жыл бұрын
Good information Thanks :)
@s0bad
@s0bad 4 жыл бұрын
Good clean video with concise descriptions
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, we try and keep it easy to understand. Thanks for the feedback
@samirmodi3390
@samirmodi3390 4 жыл бұрын
That was a great video ....helped a lot ...thanks
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks 🤜🏻
@charliedemottwildey8575
@charliedemottwildey8575 Жыл бұрын
Incredibly helpful, thank you
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters Жыл бұрын
You're very welcome!
@TechforSenior
@TechforSenior 9 ай бұрын
Thanks.. Great video.. Subscribed.
@TC_Prof
@TC_Prof 4 жыл бұрын
Nicely explain matey thank you 🙏
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it thank you! :)
@johntisbury
@johntisbury 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, most helpful.
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 3 жыл бұрын
🤜🏻
@zheranli9048
@zheranli9048 3 жыл бұрын
Great video thanks! I use a truncated double basket with my Gaggia Classic (purchased basket separately to machine), and I don't actually know what the recommended dose for this basket is! Is there anyway to find out? I wonder if I've been working with too much or too little dose and that this might have been contributing to my espresso not tasting optimally extracted.
@P1Fanatic
@P1Fanatic 3 жыл бұрын
Nice vid. I was hoping you would touch on ridged vs ridgeless and aftermarket baskets such as IMS/VST that people always rave about vs OEM baskets.
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 3 жыл бұрын
Yep we will revisit this soon.
@Isibi1234
@Isibi1234 3 жыл бұрын
Dude, I just got a Breville Duo-Temp. My first few shots were just aweful! Turns out I was using a dual-walled, single basket. Oh my lord I feel silly!! xD Thank you for sharing!!!!
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 3 жыл бұрын
Ha ha no worries! I'm glad our video was able to help you out and get you back on track making tasty coffee :)
@lozzom
@lozzom 5 ай бұрын
Excellent information! Thanks 😊
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 5 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@Amir-ns3qq
@Amir-ns3qq 4 жыл бұрын
great information, tnx so much
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 4 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@nigelfleming9825
@nigelfleming9825 3 жыл бұрын
Great information. Thank you.
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Glad you enjoyed it :)
@FatNorthernBigot
@FatNorthernBigot Ай бұрын
This guy really knows his stuff. The "upspeak" is real, though. 😉
@lucdelhaize4029
@lucdelhaize4029 2 жыл бұрын
I learned so much, thanks mate.
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it! 👍
@momwhoknowz3758
@momwhoknowz3758 2 жыл бұрын
Great teaching love the accents i wanna see the beaed guy too hes cool. Great helpful tips of things i was doing wrong definitely improved my espresso
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 2 жыл бұрын
So glad we have helped you
@lefterismichopoulos9025
@lefterismichopoulos9025 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome job! Well done 👍👍👍
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏🏻
@williamlam5718
@williamlam5718 4 жыл бұрын
Great video with very clear explanations! Thank you!
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 4 жыл бұрын
Our pleasure, glad you enjoyed it
@DW-ph2xg
@DW-ph2xg 2 жыл бұрын
Great education, thank you!
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 2 жыл бұрын
Your welcome
@jonowillmer
@jonowillmer 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info Joel, I like the calm relaxed style of the video. What are your thoughts about competition screens and baskets, do you see a real world difference in the cafe, or are you able to achieve the results you need without them?
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks @PrimaRC stoked to hear I look relaxed! For me its all about cost vs reward, no question better equipment will produce better coffee but can the improvement vs the cost be justified. I think this is a personal question.... we do not use comp screens and baskets in any of our cafes. :)
@jonowillmer
@jonowillmer 4 жыл бұрын
@@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters thank you for the feedback.
@BouncyThrone
@BouncyThrone Жыл бұрын
I've always cowboyed my coffee into my cup. Just learning about the art of coffee.. But, I started getting annoyed by the sour, bitter drip coffee on my way to work.. I don't have a trained pallet, but wanted to mention the exception to the pressurized Porta filter. I started out with a entry level 15 bar machine and very humble burr grinder. For those who can't yet afford a high-grade grinder, or don't know where to start, the double wall can really shine.. I purchased the Delonghi and Cuisanart grinder for around 200 total, just to see if I was into it before dropping a ton of cash on a phase.. After getting familiar with it, I brought my set up down to my sister's house to compare next to her $7,500 dollar set up, and we were both surprised at the comparison. We are not trained coffee testers, but we could barely tell a difference.. My point is, $200 dollars today can get you started as you learn and upgrade.. My focus now is a high quality grinder.. Don't be fooled into thinking you have to spend thousands to pull a good shot for the average Joe... I will upgrade, but for now, I'm enjoying my morning brew again!
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters Жыл бұрын
Spot on Roy, thanks for this comment. With the right tips and tools, you can make amazing coffee from cheap gear. Thanks
@thatcherdrake6452
@thatcherdrake6452 3 жыл бұрын
This was an excellent and informative video. In your experience, do naked and spouted portafilters pull similar quality shots, or is either one superior?
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 3 жыл бұрын
They are the same extraction that allows you to see the extraction process better and make a change. As soon as the basket gets put into a double you are only relying on the drips, and flow from the spout, you may see some copy changes but you can not tell if it’s evenly extracted
@kibirangosimon3451
@kibirangosimon3451 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks very educative
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers thanks
@stevencavallo7026
@stevencavallo7026 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video, mate.
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@3rd-Wave_Rebel
@3rd-Wave_Rebel 4 жыл бұрын
I found out the single basket pour a lot quicker instead of dripping. The double basket drips in a steady rate which help newbie like myself to extend the brewing extraction. This can be very difficult to maneuver the flow of the coffee grinds with the single basket. Hence you have to tamp the grind a lot harder as it will cause resistance for the water to hit the grind in a steady rate, if the tamp is too soft, it will pour faster. Of course you have to adjust the grinds numerous time in order to get the sweet spot.
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 4 жыл бұрын
try to not tamp at different pressures, what you are experiencing in the single basket is too coarser grind, int eh double basket it is the dose that is slowing down the pour.
@fethiam755
@fethiam755 5 ай бұрын
Salut à tous et à tous les amateurs du bon goût de café ☕ Je trouve cette vidéo très explicatifs et surtout j'adore le détail sur les différents types de filtre ❤❤ merci beaucoup pour votre partage d'information 🇩🇿
@baristakimanayifred9608
@baristakimanayifred9608 4 жыл бұрын
Thanx for that so much
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 4 жыл бұрын
👍🏻
@Gaminggalaxy_ok
@Gaminggalaxy_ok 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice and informative video :)
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@ninemile30
@ninemile30 2 жыл бұрын
Longshot question here! For my breville I'm replacing with a bottomless portafitler. I have and intend to continue using a puck screen. For a recipe or 16/17/18 grams, is there space to use a puck screen in a 16-18g rated basket?
@maverickmal
@maverickmal Жыл бұрын
hi great video just out of curiosity in your cafe do you use 1 shot for cappuchino or 2 or is it just down to ersonal taste
@MrJules0227
@MrJules0227 4 жыл бұрын
Single basket user here. It is possible but you need a lot of practise to make it right.
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 4 жыл бұрын
Great! It’s a bit of an art form! Well done!
@Fuuntag
@Fuuntag 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this video, very informative. Can you recommend a recipe for 2:1 ratio in a double shot 54mm basket?
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 4 жыл бұрын
How many grams can you fit in the 54mm basket? The depth of the basket will vary this amount. Check out our other video on developing a brew recipe
@Fuuntag
@Fuuntag 4 жыл бұрын
Artisti Coffee Roasters The basket is for the very common breville barista express and while the documentation states the basket can fit 18 to 20 g I found that anything above 17 - 18g requires a too finer grind or it will hit the dispersion screen.
@philippecomarmond7104
@philippecomarmond7104 4 жыл бұрын
Hi. Thank you for this very instructive video. I have an Expobar Lever and a Eureka Silenzio. I think I have an 18 g truncated basket. I feel that while being very close to a good dialing my shots are not consistent. I use between 16 and 17 g of coffee for my shots and aim for about 34 ml of espresso in 27s. It’s often overextracted. I then tend to correct by adjusting the grind but end up under extracking while the flow sometimes could indicate channeling near the end. I put so much care in my grinding and tamping but the result is not there. Can the truncated basket cause this? I’m a bit frustrated as every time I buy a new expensive piece of equipment I find out that I still need something else to get that lovely espresso. Thanks in anticipation for your help.
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Philippe, for sure a good quality basket will help with extraction defects, check out our other video for a few more pointers. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eZ-lbLaQkrbHp4U.html
@juneekhuu1794
@juneekhuu1794 4 жыл бұрын
Such a great informative video. Explains allot and helps me understands reasons for varying extractions. So i do have one question, there is varying opinions out there of the ideal dosage wight for given shots, i largely a short black drinker and after this looking at changing my basket, that said is it personal taste based on strength, acidity etc your are seeking or is there an ideal say 18g basket for a balanced shot?
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Junee, the size of the basket (if the same shape) should have no affect on the balance of your shot, just the amount of liquid espresso you finish with (if you use the same brew ratio kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kJ2DpsSl2t-do3U.html ) a 18g straightwall basket in my opinion is always a good place to start.
@juneekhuu1794
@juneekhuu1794 4 жыл бұрын
@@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters Thanks for the advice and video reference, again, very informative and easy to understand. So happens surrounded by so many friends who love their coffee, one had an 18g vst basket which he was kind enough to lend to me. following both videos i came up with one issue, pour time, was coming our way to fast, used same process and tamp as usual. tried finer grind to a point, and then not sure. any advice, do i continue to go finer on grind?
@Postthisvideo
@Postthisvideo 2 жыл бұрын
Synesso make good baskets. My go-to normally is the 18g straight wall model.
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 2 жыл бұрын
👌🏼
@magdavallarino110
@magdavallarino110 3 жыл бұрын
Thank uuuu, i will like to know how to change my machine basket in orden to Have the best shot, De’longhi Icona 310BK
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it can help you improve your coffee
@RichardDurishin
@RichardDurishin 4 жыл бұрын
Helpful video. Thanks. I wonder what you think the lower limit of a basket might be. For example, I've got a 20g VST basket, but want to pull smaller shots - 16 - 18g. Would I get better espresso with an 18g basket and why?
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 4 жыл бұрын
Great question. Many times we have found ourselves with not enough coffee at the end of a bag. The trick is to grind finer and tap harder to create a more solid bed. You have to extract less volume as it will eventually float the puck and run fast. In this case that would be say 12-14g in as 20g basket. Its harder to manage over and over, does it Taste better? That will be a personal preference, you be boarding on doing a a filet brew in a espresso machine concept if you have a too coarse grind.
@RichardDurishin
@RichardDurishin 4 жыл бұрын
@@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters So that's very interesting. My shots (using 18g in the 20g basket) develop fine, but just at the end, the coffee flows really, really fast and I get sour espresso. Like at 25 seconds or so. I've noticed a gap between the puck and the basket after the pull. I bet the puck is floating and that's opening a channel along the side at the end. If I grind any finer, it just takes forever to come out.
@cal616
@cal616 3 жыл бұрын
this is exactly what i want to know, super informatic! thank you very much!
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 3 жыл бұрын
👍🏻
@ollyrahman5899
@ollyrahman5899 4 жыл бұрын
Hi! Is there any problem If i put 9 grams coffee (single shot) in 2cups non-pressriesd busket. It it effects on the taste of my cappuccino? Btw i bought a pressurized espresso machine and use to take one shot coffee at a time. TIA
@xandrlsch
@xandrlsch 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! What about triple spouts and triple baskets? Same story as with the single basket?
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 2 жыл бұрын
They’re no standard or supplied here in oz so can’t help you there. Same concept would apply I’m sure though.
@kktpp
@kktpp 4 жыл бұрын
What do you think about the Kruve Propel espresso glasses and the fins they have?
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 4 жыл бұрын
Defiantly an interesting product. I am yet to use one. I hope to be able to review soon so keep an eye on our channel. :)
@MowgliDahab
@MowgliDahab 4 жыл бұрын
Hello! Thank you for a great video. When I trying to figure out which basket (18gr, 20gr, other) do I have - where to look? There's series of numbers on them, but none of them saying relevant numbers.
@pip5461
@pip5461 4 жыл бұрын
I would guess that you have to measure the diameter of your portafilter, you then will be able to work out what basket you have,and thereby work out its capacity...
@MowgliDahab
@MowgliDahab 4 жыл бұрын
@@pip5461 the diameter is common: 58mm, how it helps me, I don't get...
@pip5461
@pip5461 4 жыл бұрын
@@MowgliDahab it depends on what machine you have. 58mm is common on most industrial equipment, but Sage,Breville use different diameters.
@925vincent
@925vincent 4 жыл бұрын
This video would have been so much better if he had really thrown these baskets over to the back, when he said he was going to thrown them away...
@FirstLastOne
@FirstLastOne 3 жыл бұрын
I know... I was waiting for the crashing sound behind him. Even better if they landed a 3 pointer.
@alaskavaper966
@alaskavaper966 3 жыл бұрын
I find this information on baskets extremely useful at this time since I am in the process of purchasing my first setup. On order is a Breville classic pro. I do like the e61 aspect of this machine. My other choice would have been the Breville Barista Pro. Your opinion here is welcomed. It is not too late to change the order! For a grinder, I am considering the Baratza Vario or perhaps the Sette 270. What are your thoughts or experience with these grinders? I am a newbie on a budget but, still want equipment that will lead me to expresso nirvana. Cheers, amigo.
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 3 жыл бұрын
We deal more in the commercial space brands that make home machines, but lots of people get breville’s and are super happy with them. I think they are the brand that have been very innovative in this space. Get a e61 head for sure no matter what you buy as it’s easier for parts and accessories as you look to grow your skills.
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 3 жыл бұрын
The vario is a commonly used grinder with our customers, they seem happy, but we don’t sell or service these so I’m sorry that’s all the feedback I can give you
@alaskavaper966
@alaskavaper966 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your reply, to my questions, it is useful.
@philfen2972
@philfen2972 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video, but what's actually happenes if you put less grind in a large basket, assuming you can tamp in down properly?
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 4 жыл бұрын
it will eventually lift up and float and be a very fast extraction, you can go very fine and pull a shorter shot if you need to under dose a large basket
@vialb2
@vialb2 3 жыл бұрын
Wanted to know about the different types of porosity on single wall basket or if there is a difference in hole size across different baskets (nano, IMs competition etc.).
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 3 жыл бұрын
From my understanding the hole size is similar as we use different baskets but don’t have to change the grind to ensure the fines don’t make there way thru, if the hole was bigger. The main difference is if the hole is laser cut or punched. The punched holes change the flow of water more than the lazer cut holes. Hope this answers your question. 👍🏻
@vialb2
@vialb2 3 жыл бұрын
@@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters Sure thanks
@SuperSomphon
@SuperSomphon Жыл бұрын
With so many new baskets recently released, this video needs an update. 🙏🏻
@timgreenwood8295
@timgreenwood8295 4 жыл бұрын
Can an under-extracted double espresso have the same amount of caffeine as a over-extracted single espresso? i.e. does more coffee in the portafilter basket always mean more caffeine in the espresso
@TheAllMightyGodofCod
@TheAllMightyGodofCod 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it does. If you use the same type of coffee. As far as I know, caffeine is extracted right at the beginning of the process so if you extract it longer you will get the same amount, only a bit more diluted. It might even feel like you have less caffeine in an over extraction but in fact, you have the same. I might be wrong, but that was what I have been told.
@streamr89
@streamr89 4 жыл бұрын
How do you tell the difference between double and triple baskets by looking at them? Also, without a weight scale is there a way to know how much coffee to add to a basket? Are the ridges on the basket for this? And in terms of the difference between single and double baskets, how much liquid coffee are you aiming to get out at the end? Thanks!
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 4 жыл бұрын
WOW so much to answer! Firstly you can tell the difference in baskets (that are the same shape) by the depth of the basket, generally the deeper the basket the more coffee it is designed to take. Most baskets will have a recommended dose written on the side of the basket, this helps as a starting point when trying to work out dose. The ridges in a basket show the depth that the shower screen will sit at when the handle is inserted in the machine, its not a good idea to dose too or above the ridge! We work on ratios to get the liquid yield, check out our video on Brew recipes kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kJ2DpsSl2t-do3U.html Thanks for all the questions!
@DanniEfraim
@DanniEfraim 4 жыл бұрын
Great video covering the basics! If you wanted to go a little bit further you could have gone into precision baskets like IMS and VST as well. Also, I think you should treat yourselves to some better microphones, as they would do wonders for your video quality - your content deserves it!
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 4 жыл бұрын
👌🏻 our new content has sweeeet audio!
@DanniEfraim
@DanniEfraim 4 жыл бұрын
@@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters I will have to check it out, then!
@gregsullivan7408
@gregsullivan7408 4 жыл бұрын
The dual wall baskets get the most out of pre-ground coffee, however, they can still be used with freshly ground coffee - they work absolutely fine. (but yes - it is of course better to use the single wall baskets if one is using freshly ground)
@glenntomlinson2834
@glenntomlinson2834 3 жыл бұрын
my first machine (sunbeam) came with a pressure basket. I cut the doubled wall off it after 4 years, it was solid black with sludge, even with regular cleaning!!
@Postthisvideo
@Postthisvideo 2 жыл бұрын
Don't you mean single and double spout?
@gregsullivan7408
@gregsullivan7408 2 жыл бұрын
@@Postthisvideo nope - definitely not.
@Efencool
@Efencool 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Artisti Coffee, thanks for all the valuable information 👌 I have a question regarding basket sizing - you said that 22g in, 44 out in 35 seconds with a 14g basked wouldn't be possible and it wouldn't taste good; could you please elaborate on this? My current recipe is 18in, 44 out over 33 seconds but I've just discovered that my basket size is 14g. I can achieve this for great tasting coffee but I'm wondering how the result would change with an 18g basket? Any info here would be greatly appreciated :)
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 2 жыл бұрын
So the recipe can change depending n the basket size you have. It’s 1 part coffee to 2 parts water. So 14g coffee with 28g espresso, or 18g coffee and 36g espresso. The 36 will be sweeter and bolder with less bitterness. You can get 44g Esprssso with a lower dose of coffee as the ratio will change from 1-2 and be 1-3 ish, and this will make it thin and over extracted
@howardkagan2155
@howardkagan2155 2 жыл бұрын
Great information. But you did not mention the diameter or consistency of the holes in the basket. I found VST baskets to be much higher quality and better results. Have you?
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 2 жыл бұрын
Yes they are, they are laser cut and not punched holes.
@EG4Honda
@EG4Honda 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Joel! I bought a second hand Gaggia Classic. Can you suggest any way to work out what size basket I have? Also, are certain coffee roasts more suitable than others for use in larger baskets?
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, fill the basket to the top with fine grind and then weigh the amount of coffee you have. Not specific on toast vs basket size, it’s more about the intensity that you enjoy m
@EG4Honda
@EG4Honda 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your advice 🙂. If I shake the portafilter and tap it against the bench, I can get 20g+ to fit level in the basket. Is this what you mean, or should it be a level measure with no manipulation of the grounds? I have read that there should not be an imprint of the shower screen on the puck after brewing. I have found my shots to be more enjoyable in the 18-20g range which does end up with an imprint from the shower screen. So I'm a little confused. Again, thank you for your time and advice 👍
@jonthomson1996
@jonthomson1996 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, a very informative video. Is there any magic formula for the ideal ratio of portafilter diameter to coffee bed depth? I use a 54mm dia 19g basket and get good results - but could I get better?
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 3 жыл бұрын
What a great question. We have always had 58mm in all of our machines so I don’t have an answer. 🤔
@Postthisvideo
@Postthisvideo 2 жыл бұрын
Why even mention the blind filter? It's not considered a basket - it's strictly a cleaning device.
@PhilippeCJR
@PhilippeCJR 4 жыл бұрын
can you compare ims and vst 18/20 gr baskets, like the barista pro and e&b
@viewsfrompedroeyes
@viewsfrompedroeyes 4 жыл бұрын
+1
@blessedspearos7683
@blessedspearos7683 2 жыл бұрын
I have a question! If i have 14 grams basket 58mm and i put 20 grams in but super fine ground and after tamp have enough space on basket to water do their job and the final results are shots ristretto in 30 seconds. what happen? Damage de basket or what? I have comercial grinder to go infinite grind
@rolplakband2744
@rolplakband2744 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate. I have a questions: I use in my Gaggia Classic (2014, set the pressure down to 9 bar) about 16 grams of coffee with a spouted portafilter (30 grams, 27 seconds). I now want to use a naked portafilter, but I am not sure if I need an 15 or 18 gram basket. What do you recommend... Thanks in advance
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 2 жыл бұрын
Always go the biggest you can, as it will allow you to pack it more evenly. The 18g would be better, you can always dose it to 15g if you like
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