Ah yes, the true Orthodox (only joking, I love my -fake- Orthodox brothers ❤‍🔥)

I am excited for that. I know next to nothing about the oriental orthodox.

Can you also do a Lutheran vid please?

@@JoWilliams-ud4eu Our theology is pretty similar to EO, except that we have the view that Jesus had one, singular nature that was both divine AND man, and that therefore He united God and man together, allowing us to join Him and partake in the divine essence, and therefore be saved.

@@MSKofAlexandria cool. Even though I disagree, I do like the idea of us being saved by union with Christ by nature and the incarnation.

Are there biased Protestant videos on Orthodoxy? I thought that your guys suffered from Catholics false claims

@@RoyalLudrothHunterRZ had „beef“ (not that serious) with the Orthodox for months for falsely presenting the EO faith because of his biases hahahah this is the first (almost) unbiased video I have seen from him

@@RoyalLudrothHunter yeah, there are, even Redeemed Zoomer made some. I'm not orthodox (seriously thinking about becoming orthodox though) but it was something to point out.

@@ZeptoBit_ I was an enquirer that is now part of the Church and it's the best thing I have ever done in my life. If you can speak to a priest and attend Catechism I highly recommend it.

@@Skaffuh thanks for your suggestion, I definetely am going to do that.

100%! Cradle non-religious turned Antiochian Orthodox here. Attend a divine liturgy and see what we're all about. It is life changing. It doesn't matter what your background is or which Orthodox jurisdiction you attend. Holy tradition is the eternal home of us all.

Catholics have it too

​@cardboardcapeii4286 not really. You have Novus Ordo, and you have eastern catholics which are synchretists. They have inconsistent theology.

@@order_truth_involvement6135 the eastern Catholics have the same liturgy

Yeah except he calls us a denomination. We are not a denomination. We are the faith. They are all pretending and misleading people. Especially this guy here.

God does not bless those who preach false orthodoxy.

There is no Salvation outside the Catholic Church.

@@Theofilus144 that’s a load of crap and nobody inside orthodoxy would ever say such nonsense. If you are talking about Rome then mind your business and go pray with the Jews and Muslims.

@@katiek.8808 bergoglio is not The pope. The True Catholic Church cannot Pray with heretics and infidels.

visit your local Orthodox parish bro 👍❤

Pretty much. They understand the age old fact that not all knowledge is useful and man can’t think himself out of the hedge maze.

God is infinite and our minds are finite. Of course we can't understand God we just must follow his teachings ☦️🙏🏻

It actually doesn’t. Throughout scripture God has mad his presence know for us to understand him. If you rely on He the Holy Spirit you will start to gain an understanding of God. I personally feel your explanation is a cop out not to have a personal relationship with God. Hence why i will stick to baptist. Ain’t nothing like having a loving relationship with my creator.

​@@ReadDaGospel*She the holy spirit

It's for educational pourposes. The Gold it's not to analyse it but, it's to understand it. As christians, even if you are 100% assured of your Church, it's not negative to understand other sectors/denomanations. Like me, i am Protestant but i can interact with you guys and speak about things that you guys affirm.

Watch him debate an orthodox and you’ll see how bad it gets

​@@Avzigoyhbasilsikosis that the fault of him or the orthie? Cus let's be real you could say the same thing when it's a Roman Catholic guy

​@@michaeltagor4238he did another video on Orthodoxy and in that video he was VERY biased

​@greekguy74 Ofcause he is biassed. He is Reformed. You are biased to for your denomination. Does that strike you as an odd thing? There's a difference between being biased abd being fair. You can be biased and fair at the same time.

Go again after this video see if ur view is the same

@@BabySniff This video reassures me as to why I am Orthodox. He has improved a lot on his understanding of Eastern denominations.

Watch jay dyers debate with RZ. RZ hardly understands orthodoxy

Well he lied to you because historical orthodox position is in the ecclesium nulla silus... there is no salvation outside of thr church (orthodox church).

The Council of Nicaea II is very clear that unless you subscribe to icon veneration, you are anathema. Anathema is understood at the time as being separation from God and being cast into the outer darkness. Exclusivity is in the EO DNA.

@@bobbobberson5627 You dont see how condemning trinitarian, Bible faithful, Creed reciting and Jesus loving Christians to Hell over secondary stuff like icons is controversial?

@@bobbobberson5627 "Now anathema is nothing less than complete separation from God." - Patriarch Tarasius who was at Nicaea II in 787 writing to Empress Irene. Why must you lie like Nicaea II lied about Jesus' supposed letter to King Abgar?

@@bobbobberson5627 Patriarch Tarasius clearly thinks anathema means damnation. So stop lying about your church. Like the forgery riddled Nicaea ii lied about the Early Church.

He,credeam ca sunt singurul nebun care se uita la videouri de genu

@@ihs775 Nihil sine Deo amice. Ma bucur ca nici eu nu-s singurul. =]]

Va pup frății mei! Domnul sa va binecuvânteze !

Dumnezeu sa va calauzeasca pe calea cea dreapta si sa va ocroteasca de tot ce-i rau.

@@XplorerOfLife Doamne ajuta si pe tine asemenea frate 🙏

ME TOOO

I had to go through a few other denominations before I landed into the arms of our local parish. Me and my fiance are about to take our final catechuman class next week, arrange our baptism with Chrismation and marriage. Our parish are going to enjoy 4 new members including our kids. Plus I'm working on helping my friends see the orthodox for what it is and join us.

DON'T LISTEN TO HIM. THE CHURCH IS ONE. CATHOLIC.

I had never heard of orthodoxy until RZ. But I'm still protestant.

​​@@JoWilliams-ud4eu Don't be that. luther was an antichrist who denied self control and caused people letting themselves go to sinning.

It's not really a mistake on his part: he acknowledges early in the video that Eastern Orthodoxy considers itself the one true church, but it's not really fair to expect a Presbyterian to share that belief.

that’s my main gripe with orthodoxy, nice pfp btw…😂

@@Bruh.151 thanks, but also veneration of icons is Biblical and has been done since the early early days of the church

@@Tobby1923 i suggest watching truth united video on this topic if you’re interested in the protestant perspective, which i’m personally convinced is the truth, God bless brother

@@Tobby1923 Could you please provide some verses that support the veneration of icons?

@@Disconsonance88 1 Thessalonians 5:26 Hebrews 12:1 1 Corinthians 11:1 Furthermore the church as a tradition believes that icons are a window to heaven

What denomination are you?

I'm nondenominational but I'm thinking of changing to a more reformed denomination later in life

@@kadenhays2331 oh can you become anglican we are reformed you can look into us

@@kadenhays2331come to Lutheranism! From an ELCA member.

Same.

Awesome, thank you

Que Dios te bendiga ☦️🙏♥️

Orthodoxy is not a denomination, you should know that as an Orthodox Christian

@@michaelbeach7988 Yeah, but you gotta be careful what terminology you use around Protestants.

@@michaelbeach7988 Orthodox is pre-denominational

Well with little bias

But I don’t say that in a negative way. As people in general aren’t free of bias.

The orthodox will fight tooth and nail to tell you that salvation is through works (Galatian heresy) But Unless you also partake in work’s salvation go ahead.

⁠@@Reformed_Borzoiit’s not from works my brother. Salvation is by grace through faith. Just as St. James writes in his epistle, our works are a bi-product of our faith. How can we proclaim Christ without doing things that Christ commands? It’s not that we think those things save us. Works are the fruit of the Holy Spirit in our lives that spur us to do things that honor God and our fellow man. I’ve heard a pretty simplified version of this. We can get to heaven and have a lot of works, like trying to board a plane with a lot of luggage, but we will not be admitted unless we have the ticket, our salvation. We can enter the plane with just the ticket and without luggage. However we cannot get on with only luggage and no ticket. Otherwise what was Christ’s death for? I’ll paraphrase Psalm 50; you do not desire sacrifice (Old Testament work) or I would have given it, you do not desire in burnt offerings. A sacrifice to God is a broken spirit. A broken and humbled heart, God does not despise. Anyways. I hope that that kind of explained it. I used to think that we needed works, because I went down this weird faith journey. A priest helped me understand it so concretely, and everything regarding orthodoxy aligns so incredibly with the Bible. Which makes sense because it’s the orthodox/Catholic tradition that gave us the Bible. What is holy scripture without the context of holy tradition around it? May God bless you! If these were just rantings then so be it haha. I hope it helped a little. I pray God with light your path and help continue our walk of faith.

@@Reformed_Borzoi We don't believe in that.

@@Reformed_Borzoi Orthodox Christianity emphasizes that faith and works are not mutually exclusive. Instead, they work together, salvation is achieved through a synergistic process that involves both faith and works. Faith is considered the foundation, but it must be accompanied by works, which are the fruits of faith.

@@yuppieNL Justification does not come from the law,instead it comes from faith. Galatians 2:16 16 yet we know that a person is not justifiedfn by works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, so we also have believed in Christ Jesus, in order to be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the law, because by works of the law no one will be justified. Galatians 2:21 21 I do not nullify the grace of God, for if righteousness were through the law, then Christ died for no purpose.

There were changes, the bible was translated in Old Church Slavonic and kept like that for centuries it took a lot of time for the church service to be done in Eastern European languages (except for Greek for obvious reasons).

Or the Iconostasis in the Byzantine Rite.

It’s not change in worship its development in presentation. You can drink water out of a jug or water out of a basin and it’s still h2o

@@ViguLiviu Old Church Slavonic was the Eastern European languages combined into a single so everyone could understand. People have got to stop with these dumbass myths that people never understood what was said in Church. Both in the Latin and the Eastern Churches, the languages was chosen so most could understand.

@@kottekanin4006 The Panslavic language was the combination of slavic languages, not Old Church Slavonic. The problem was that all that the slavs came later in there so the it wasn't that easy foe everyone to understand it especially in the Balkans where Latin or Greek were used more. Imagine knowing Spanish and listening to Portuguese or French. It was more known in the elites since the language came from them. And most people didn't have direct access to the bible until the printing press and the translations were made in their languages.

I recommend St Mary of Egypt as an especially inspiring life story for the times we are living in today.

@patrickbarnes9874 the martyr Thomais and st.john the long suffering too.

Can you maybe recommend some books? I've wanted to buy one about st paisios the athonite, but it costs 60 euros.

@@patrickbarnes9874An very detailed and extensive version is on the site of the St Mary of Egypt ROCOR Church of Roswell, GA. First link in the Library section.

Вы православный? Так уж сложилось, что здесь в комментариях больше нет русскоговорящих

I think most Egyptian Christians are Oriental Orthodox.

@@olekcholewa8171 Yes we are but before 4th council it didn't existed we were all one. Egyptians were mad cause Constantinople a new capital became more important than Alexandria and they were use to be the 2nd biggest city in the empire

@@EgyptianOrthodox Doesn't matter. You're still not Eastern Orthodox. EO people will throw anathemas at you for not affirming Chalcedon.

@@olekcholewa8171I don’t say anathema to them. All the local Ethiopians attend my OCA church, and some Indians (not sure if Malabar or Malankara), and we don’t have any Copts here but I believe they also would attend. I have read many commentaries by Fr Tadros Malaty, a Coptic priest, and they are 100% Patristic. And I have never seen any person from any Oriental Orthodox country have to jump through the least hoop to be a communing member at my church. (Meanwhile, several hoops are required by Roman Catholic priests here to accept any Orthodox to Communion.)

@@olekcholewa8171 We know it, we have been alone many time and we have survived islamic invations Anatolia can not say the same there are almost not Christians in Anatolia today and they were Eastern Orthodox land. We do only need Christ cause he has protected us ☦️

God bless you orthodox brother ☦🇷🇸.

@@jedanMALIkinez Amin

It was so crazy for me to witness also in the beginning. Now after one year I found myself kissing the priest’s hand. It’s not required. I just feel so much respect, that my mind has totally changed about venerating God and the Saints.

You walked in the footsteps of St. Paul in Greece and Asia Minor, and the Christianity you found there struck you as "strange". With all due respect, you need to ask yourself whether the Christians of 1st-century Greece and Asia Minor would find the United Methodist church strange. And whether these early Christians would feel more at home today in an Orthodox parish or a Methodist congregation.

In Greece, Europe and the middle East, when we see our family, we kiss them on each cheek, the same as we treat our saints painted on the icon. Same as a soldier kisses the photo of his wife before going to battle. It’s a sign of respect. Nobody worships a photo or a piece of wood with paint on it. But if you believe that God is in all things… why not an icon?

For some, taking The Eucharist from the same spoon is an important expression of faith related to Covid, where trusting in God means trusting that a holy sacrament will not transmit plague and so there is no reason to fear using the same spoon.

Funny username kek

@@CA-by2brLMAO

@@CA-by2br hahaha 🤣, thanks 👍

True.

Your avatar needs a bigger beard.

orthodox kyle, jay dyer, david erhan and Ephraim all helped me

@@Tobby1923shamounian helped me

Why did you convert to Eastern Orthodox?

@@Thebasedheriticcuz it’s more demanding of you, full of tradition, and personally, I agree with all its theology. That’s why I’m Orthodox

@@henryconner780 cool

@@henryconner780 ...

As someone who just yesterday decided to become an Orthodox, I’m surprised a lot of people are also seeing the truth of it.

Orthodoxy is not even a Christianity.

​@@panicsurvivor5050 How so?

You are dense​@@panicsurvivor5050

I would suggest looking up Orthodox parishes in your area and finding one that has services in English (or some other language you understand) and scheduling a one-on-one conversation with the priest. That may not end up being the parish you join, but I think it's a solid first step for inquiring into Orthodoxy once you've been convinced by what you've seen online that Orthodoxy is something you might want in your life.

Truly He is Risen! ☦️

Too many EO have screamed that others are going to hell for me to believe you.

@@Th3BigBoy that fundamentally isn't how our understanding of salvation works, and zoomer even explained it in the video

As a cradle Orthodox from an ethnic background, I understand the difficulty of going to a church where you don't understand the language, and the family/emotional/cultural reasons for staying there. With time such Orthodox churches in non-traditionally Orthodox countires gradually shift to using more of the local language. But there are often other nearby Orthoodox churches already using the local language either mostly or completely, and you might want to check them out. Worshiping in a language you understand is a game changer.

Not that zoomer, but a zoomer, I really like garlic bread.

Sushi. Also are you church of Sweden? If so, join Reconquista discord

you guys need a lot of things to do in sweden. that female bishop is a wolf in a sheeps clothing

@@wouspor1804 The female bishop that is also a married lesbian? I wouldn't really say that's being in sheeps clothing, they're just open about it and no one cares.

My favorite has to be beef stroganoff

I hope you are attending a local parish and become a catechumen. It is so good to hear you are on the path to the fullness of the faith ☦ God be with you on your journey

Yes, but it was forced onto the people of those lands.

​@@ChristianWarioYou can argue the same about the west, though our atheists did it through subversion of the institutions and educational systems. Combine that with poor catechization of their children and you get the modern woke lefty who claims to be all heart and has no real standards other than looking like they are being good people. Even if they have no standards of what's good.

@@ChristianWario There had to have been at least people who voluntarily agreed to Communism, or there would have been nobody to force on it anybody.

​@@SantaFe19484 yes, those were Jews, people who are not Orthodox Christian (and all bolsheviks that were Jews had a Lutheran background)

Roman Catholic religious vocations have dropped nearly 90% since Vatican II… it would be a joke to say that monasticism (currently) has any place of importance to the Catholic Church.

There is but its based on ones choice to do it. It written nowhere in the bible except through tradition.

Your view is very Protestant. The vast majority of Orthodox and Catholics consider you a non-Christian, a heretic, and someone who is going to hell because you do not follow their traditions. Apostolic Succession is everything to them, even though the Bible makes a clear distinction between the 12 Apostles, who are going to be memorialised in the New Jerusalem according to Revelation 21:14; and any who might come after. Catholics take Mathias replacing Judas to mean that they should replace all the Apostles, whereas that singular event was prophesied in the Old Testament on account of Judas' betrayal, and is almost certainly a one-time thing, and they then take the lines about the Church being built on Christ and the Apostles to mean that, the Successors of the Apostles constitute the true Church, and are the only ones who have authority in the Church. I assume the logic is the same in Eastern Orthodoxy. This means that they can take the made-up traditions of people they consider to be the Successors of the Apostles, like the Pope in Catholicism or various Saints in Orthodoxy, and follow their ideas even if they go against what is written in the Scriptures, e.g. Mary worship, praying to the Saints/dead. Protestants would agree that the Church was built upon Christ and the Apostles, because Christianity was literally started by them, the Bible was written by them, the Apostles then went around converting people after Christ's death and resurrection; but Protestants leave it there, and give no special authority to any 'successors' after those first Apostles, instead trusting in the instruction they gave us that was codified in the Bible, and acknowledging that, as is written in the Holy Scriptures, that the Holy Spirit is sent as our advocate and as our teacher, and that all men might receive the Holy Spirit, not just the few Apostles, as was made clear at Pentecost. We look to the Holy Spirit to guide the Church, that is the big C Church which includes all Christians, whereas Catholics and Orthodox look to men. Hopefully in many cases those men will be true believers who are filled with the Holy Spirit, and they may lead their small c churches wisely even if their position of leadership comes about by error; but it is clear from history that in many cases that has not happened.

Amen

Good to hear!

I’m still Protestant and I have high interest in joining the orthodox church

@@cursedreality8615 I was also a protestant and I converted to Orthodoxy. So it's great to see that you have interest. No pressure for you to join. I'm just happy that you're interested!

@@freedomclub2285 I used to be Catholic now ND a Christian and now more than likely Orthodox sooner or later

@@cursedreality8615 That's great to hear! No matter what you decide, may God bless you and peace be with you.

that's cool, tell that to all the saved Catholics :)

You get a pass because you are not a native English speaker, but most Orthodox would not call Orthodoxy a "denomination' since that implies Orthodoxy is just one of many equal "churches." But there is a distinction in Orthodoxy between "Tradition" with a capital T, and tradtions, which are the human and cultural expressions of the Tradition. The Tradition is the faith once and for all time taught by Christ, transmitted faithfully by His apostles, and preserved faithfully in Christ's (Orthodox) Church. That is unchangeable and unchanging. The traditions we have in expressing that faith in our lives are to an extent influenced by culture, language, and where and when we live. There are local variances in these lesser traditions over time and space, but they all point to the same unvarying Tradition. The Orthodox have a tolerance for diversity in these traditions that express the Faith, but are firm in defending the Tradition, the Faith itself, from any change, corruption or dilution. Peace, bro!

@@dimitrispeiraias Im sorry, what did I say that was incorrect?

​@@redeemedzoomer6053😂 lol, I'm wondering the same thing. What a great video you made, you represented us perfectly!

@@redeemedzoomer6053 5:07

​​@@redeemedzoomer6053The Orthodox do believe that we are saved by the Grace of God through a living (=working) faith.

​@@TsarOrthodoxBro_II Don't you believe that we are saved by the Grace of God through a living (=working) faith?

@markstein2845 Causation ≠ Change. Also, the Son and the Spirit are caused eternally, not temporally.

@@matheusmotta1750 You are right, but expressing this in human words is tricky (that is why Orthodox theology is mostly apophatic--it builds a fence around who and what God is by saying what He is not, but is reluctant to pin God down by trying to express His Essence, since this is beyond the human mind. As the saying goes, "If your mind can understand God, then your god is too small." This touches on the filioque, the later western addition to the Nicean Creed which says that the Holy Spirit proceeds from both the Father and the Son. Orthodoxy affirms the original wording of the Creed, which is actually a direct quotation of Christ's words in His exposition to His apostles at the Last Supper: "But when the Helper comes, whom I shall send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify of me." (John 15:26} Orthodoxy affirms that the Father is the Source (or Cause) by saying that the Son is begotten of the Father and the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father, but we do not attempt to define what is the character of "begetting" or "proceeding." We do say that these are not choices of the Father in the sense that creating everything else is a decision and choice. Instead these are integral to who God the Father simply is.. For the Orthodox, the Father is the Person of the Trinity who begets the Son and from whom proceeds the Spirit. The Son is the Person begotten of the Father, and the Holy Sprit is the Person who proceeds from the Father. But the Father is always and eternally with the Son and the Spirit, who all share one Essence, So when we say trhe Father is the Cause, we are not speaking of God the Father's will, but of His very nature, of who He is. Sorry for the long post, but clarifying this is absolutely essential for knowing Who God is, in as far as He has revealed Himself to us.

Baptists are more like EO than the Catholica are, methinks.

Finde ich auch! War heute mein drittes Mal!

There isn't 45,000 sects.

Well, maybe he's not that harsh, but he thinks that praying to icons is heresy.

​@@ViguLiviubut taking the eucharist with Costco bread and Grape juice isnt satanic prots 😂

Um, actually, he does essentially call us heretics in other videos. For some reason, he is exceptionally fair minded in this video. But I've seen another video where he says that everything Eastern Christians believe is wrong.

You are not even Christian

You’re not a Christian, according to your profile picture.