Understanding is Overrated | Why You Should Read "Difficult" Literature

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Micah S. Vernon | Habitual Blood

Micah S. Vernon | Habitual Blood

11 күн бұрын

In which I try to tackle the ephemeral notion of “understanding”. Do we need to understand art to enjoy it? And why read “difficult” fiction?
“He gets back to the Casino just as big globular raindrops, thick as honey, begin to splat into giant asterisks on the pavement, inviting him to look down at the bottom of the text of the day, where footnotes will explain all. He isn’t about to look. Nobody ever said a day has to be juggled into any kind of sense at day’s end.”
- Thomas Pynchon, Gravity’s Rainbow
Additional reading:
Jonathan Franzen - Mr. Difficult: adilegian.com/FranzenGaddis.htm
Mark de Silva - In Defense of Writing Books That May Never Be Read: lithub.com/in-defense-of-writ...
Mark de Silva - Distant Visions: Putdownable Prose and the State of the Art Novel: www.3ammagazine.com/3am/a-dis...
William H. Gass Interviewed by Eric Day: / william-h-gass-intervi...
William H. Gass Interviewed by Michael Silverblatt: / william-h-gass-intervi...
David Foster Wallace - The Future of Fiction in the Information Age: • David Foster Wallace: ...
Gertrude Stein - A Radio Interview: www.theparisreview.org/miscel...

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@tko8507
@tko8507 6 күн бұрын
It's a very strange and happy coincidence that The Algorithm should bring me this video. I've always found disorientation to be one of the most valuable (and often oddly pleasant) experiences literature and art in general can give me - so I'm often drawn to very esoteric work, precisely because I *don't* get it. You've articulated a lot here that I was never quite able to put into words.
@HabitualBlood
@HabitualBlood 6 күн бұрын
Birds of a feather. I also have a particular interest in unfinished art, that I hope to make a video on eventually. I don't know if you feel the same but something strangely feels more whole to me when I know it's unfinished. Like more lies beyond the loose ends. This love of lacking resolution contributes significantly to my love of esoteric literature.
@Philosiphyzer
@Philosiphyzer 9 күн бұрын
Excellent video! You captured most of my thoughts and feelings on the subject. I read Gravity's Rainbow for the first time last summer (well, I read it from May-October, but anyhow). I absolutely cannot claim to "understand" it, and I don't even know how to begin trying to describe or summarize it. At the same time, I feel compelled to call it my favorite book; I don't think any other book has had such a huge effect on me as both a reader and a writer. I credit my increasing love of "difficult" books to reading poetry. Once I found poets and poems that really hit me, I realized that I often (even usually) didn't know what I liked about them so much, they just...hit. Once that realization settled in, the doors of literature blew off the hinges. I started reading Lispector, Pynchon, Joyce, etc.--I still don't claim to "get" all or even most of it, but I always come away from these books with a sense of growth and enrichment. Currently about halfway through Ulysses, and as difficult as it is, I'm so glad I finally picked it up. Cheers.
@HabitualBlood
@HabitualBlood 9 күн бұрын
Absolutely. Poetry is a wonderful gateway into grappling with "difficult" literature. And Ulysses is a tremendous experience, the back half especially is incredible. Enjoy!
@bretttharpwriter
@bretttharpwriter 9 күн бұрын
Getting fancy with the editing are we, Mr. Big Britches?
@HabitualBlood
@HabitualBlood 9 күн бұрын
And it took me all goddamn day and night! Time to get back to easier to edit stuff.
@user-te6qi7zt4s
@user-te6qi7zt4s 6 күн бұрын
you made me understand more about my not understanding moments and feel less stupid, thanks keep going. “He opened his eyes only to see that he was in a mid 20th century theatre, the night sky with all its stars was the only roof the theater had, which made him feel naked and defenseless. there was no one else there, so he thought whatever will be played on the stage will be for him, or he is the actual stage. The play started but his breathing stopped, eyes wide open like they try to escape from the prison of his skull, he saw a man. He could see him hoping from leg to leg, enjoying himself, physique like a thin man, but the curvature of his spine, the dark hairy hands and foot could tell you that this build is a mixture of man and monkey, a white T-shirt that tucked into a black tracksuit pants would make you think of a generic employee or an accountant, but the head was a fish that played the flute which he was dancing so warmly to it. In his left hand he held a doll, except the head looked like of a human baby that stitched to the body of the doll, Then in his chest through the T-shirt came out a snake, long and upside down with two very very small humanoid hands, it smiled a venomous smile. He tried to stand up and run, but he was shocked of his doll like body that did not follow his command, he could feel stitches on his neck, imprisoning his mind in this body.”
@HabitualBlood
@HabitualBlood 5 күн бұрын
I'm glad I could help. It's no fun feeling stupid and I absolutely believe it's not the point of esoteric literature to exclude people.
@sw3dge
@sw3dge 9 күн бұрын
Beautiful video. I’ve been starting to embrace understanding less in books, led by Malazan and even more so Gene Wolfe.
@HabitualBlood
@HabitualBlood 9 күн бұрын
Both wonderful examples of SFF works that help readers embrace "difficult" literature.
@nostalgicpetrichor4913
@nostalgicpetrichor4913 7 күн бұрын
one of my favorite channels rn, amazing video
@HabitualBlood
@HabitualBlood 7 күн бұрын
So glad you enjoyed the video 🙏
@pravatpandey1937
@pravatpandey1937 3 күн бұрын
I loved the video. Thank you for putting so much effort into making it.
@HabitualBlood
@HabitualBlood 3 күн бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@drackaryspt1572
@drackaryspt1572 7 күн бұрын
A truly amazing and beautiful video!! I completely agree that we sadly don't look at art for what it is, nowadays it feels that art has to have a specific meaning that is super comfortable and easily understandable for everyone to just feel safe and warm from it's lack of interpretation, I believe that this only dumbs us down as people, because art should be anything you manage to get from it or from what you've got that the artist is trying to tell you. a piece of art that can pull you in and from which you can pull new more profound meaning each time you consume/interact with it, is the most meaningful and the best experience one can have with art, it can feel like a conversation or like a mirror in which you get to observe your own ideas of why you even got the first impressions you did and it feels like a piece of our collective human experience. I think that art at its best should be something that is a piece of us and something that grows with us as we do with it!
@HabitualBlood
@HabitualBlood 6 күн бұрын
So glad you enjoyed the video. I very much agree that our relationship with art should be one of conversation over consumption.
@charlesjunior5087
@charlesjunior5087 6 күн бұрын
Just curious, but what is your profile picture?
@gon2047
@gon2047 Күн бұрын
Thank you for this 🖤
@vajs6312
@vajs6312 Күн бұрын
One year I read Infinite Jest, Gravity’s Rainbow and The Recognitions. Rather than feeling completely disheartened by the density and (often) the lack of a concise plot, I embraced all of it and realized that, maybe, the writer wanted to show the reader how our train of thought and the dialogue noise (typical for postmodernism literature) often interrupts our attempts at constructing a linear narrative (both in life and in literature. In short: I accepted and connected with the “vibe instead of story” concept and found value in constructing my own corresponding vibe while reading, realizing that it really isn’t about the plot from the very beginning. I couldn’t tell anyone very much about the plot in Gravity’s Rainbow, but I vividly remember being shocked by certain lascivious depictions, being amazed at Pynchon’s spot on definitions of war and enamoured by his poetry in the 2nd half of the books. After all, post WW2 and during the cold war, people began to be all in their heads and I think that challenging literature is challenging mostly because it mirrors it back to us.
@HabitualBlood
@HabitualBlood 19 сағат бұрын
Absolutely. I think people get too bogged down trying to grab onto a plot or understand every reference that it overwhelms their ability to just naturally feel out what a book is doing. Especially with Gravity's Rainbow I think an undervalued facet of it these days is that, at the time it was released, there was nothing written on the Hereros or their part in WWII. Pynchon was writing on a topic *nobody* was familiar with, so even at the time it wasn't intended to be filled with information the reader was intended to understand or know the references to, it was one of the only texts elucidating certain obscured information, which I believe is an essential part of its thematic heft.
@jisaen
@jisaen Күн бұрын
Excelente. Sin saberlo, fue así como me enamoré de los libros de Borges, tan llenos de cultura, filosofía y mitología, siendo muy niño y con tan poco conocimiento de esas materias. Has abierto una enorme biblioteca para la cual pensaba que no estaba preparado.
@HabitualBlood
@HabitualBlood 19 сағат бұрын
Borges is a beautiful example. An author I love whose works still feel so dense and open and wondrous to me. He can fit so much into a short story that feels like it dwarfs me, in the best way.
@gjhartist3685
@gjhartist3685 2 күн бұрын
Well reading a book is a journey ain't it? Some journeys are more challenging than others, but that same challenge can make the experience better in the long run. I recall struggling through Les Misérables as a young teen because I liked the musical. I cannot say I retained all that Victor Hugo intended the reader to come away with. It was still a very memorable experience for me though.
@ZiflerStudios
@ZiflerStudios 2 күн бұрын
I prefer to think of them as uncomfortable Books. Cause when I read them I usually end feeling deep anxiety and discomfort. Because a lot of the time I likely don't understand what I am reading a lot of the time. So now I enjoy them for what they are whatever that may be.
@don4_t3llo
@don4_t3llo 6 күн бұрын
Depois que li água viva, minha perspectiva acerca do tempo mudou completamente. A beleza de Clarice está justamente nas entrelinhas. Não é difícil por ser pragmático. Pelo contrário. É difícil por sua subjetividade e distintas compreensões. Esporadicamente eu penso que eu deveria ler esse livro de novo, concomitantemente eu tenho certeza que nunca vou ter a mesma experiência da primeira vez. Muito bom ouvir falar de Clarice por um não falante do português. Nice job dude.
@HabitualBlood
@HabitualBlood 6 күн бұрын
I can imagine reading it countless times and getting pulled in by different elements each time. Beautiful book. Lispector was a treasure.
@barbaralin3053
@barbaralin3053 5 күн бұрын
I've never thought about this aspect!
@HabitualBlood
@HabitualBlood 5 күн бұрын
I'm glad I could help!
@WILDTHYME000
@WILDTHYME000 6 күн бұрын
I'm a big dumb-dumb, do you think i could still enjoy "challenging" books? I've read the Road, didn't get the message, but i still enjoyed reading it.
@HabitualBlood
@HabitualBlood 6 күн бұрын
Absolutely. Like the Gertrude Stein quote says at the end of this video, if you enjoyed it, you understood it. That's all that matters. If the book interests you, read it! It's not homework :)
@hian
@hian 4 күн бұрын
Thank you. There's seldom I come across a video essay about literature that resonate with me as much as this did. As a person who greately enjoys "getting lost" and being disoriented, to the point one of my favorite things is journeying alone to unfamiliar places where the locals speak languages I don't know and have oblique cultural practices I don't recognize. Life is a puzzle, and trying to figure it out is the greatest fun. Whether you succeed or not, that's just an afterthought.
@HabitualBlood
@HabitualBlood 4 күн бұрын
So glad you enjoyed the video, I wasn't sure how well this would resonate with people.
@R.L.Kramer
@R.L.Kramer 3 күн бұрын
I really like this video but just want to raise my hand and say the background grinding noise took away from it
@HabitualBlood
@HabitualBlood 3 күн бұрын
It's not pleasant for everyone but the combination of dissonance and harmony is purposeful for the thematic throughline of the video :)
@R.L.Kramer
@R.L.Kramer 3 күн бұрын
@@HabitualBlood I totally get it and I’m not asking you to curb your creativity. It made it difficult for me to hear and process your thoughts, which I was very interested in. I m not asking for you to defend your creative choices and I subscribed and I am interested in what you create again. I’m just providing personal feedback. I’ll try to watch again when I can get calm and I look forward to more things you create
@R.L.Kramer
@R.L.Kramer 3 күн бұрын
@@HabitualBlood tried it again. Can’t do it. I’m simply allergic. Cheers anyways. I love difficult books
@HabitualBlood
@HabitualBlood 2 күн бұрын
That's okay, thanks for trying.
@abandonment
@abandonment 12 сағат бұрын
@@HabitualBlood dissonance can still exist in a way that also makes the content of your video more accessible to viewers. currently, the way the audio is mixed makes listening physically painful
@jcespana7237
@jcespana7237 3 күн бұрын
What a beautiful video, first time I see your channel, your usage of that ambient music is I think what caused me to find this video so mesmerizing, about that what is the name of the piece of music you used as background throughout the video? I feel it very moving
@HabitualBlood
@HabitualBlood 3 күн бұрын
Thank you for watching, you can find the music here: lostsaltbloodpurges.bandcamp.com/track/lost-salt-blood-purges-hevrh
@z111.01
@z111.01 14 сағат бұрын
Thank you. Clarice is my favorite brazilian writer.
@HabitualBlood
@HabitualBlood 14 сағат бұрын
She's a treasure.
@aliestercardigan8574
@aliestercardigan8574 5 күн бұрын
Is that Harry from the hit game Disco Elysium?
@HabitualBlood
@HabitualBlood 5 күн бұрын
Some have speculated that it is.
@nenyeo6090
@nenyeo6090 5 күн бұрын
I didn’t understand Agua Viva AT ALL. I tried to a couple years ago when i read it but it mostly flew over my head. Oddly enough i couldn’t help but like it and feel compelled by the book. But i will give it another shot regardless perhaps a few years from now. Thanks for the video. It was an interesting perspective.
@HabitualBlood
@HabitualBlood 4 күн бұрын
It's always worth reading and rereading Lispector ❤️ even if you don't understand, she pulls you into new places and thoughts and atmospheres better than any writer I know
@charlesjunior5087
@charlesjunior5087 6 күн бұрын
I have severe add, but the idea behind the video is focus on enjoyment of something, in this case books and less on trying to understand something?? Also is it considered ironic that I’m trying to gain understanding from a video stating you don’t have to understand??
@bxnny0374
@bxnny0374 6 күн бұрын
I struggle with ADD as well; I find reading out loud to myself is a really helpful way to keep me engaged. It's gotten me hooked back on reading, and has been overall very enjoyable. Might or might not work for you; only way to know is to try, and I think it's worth at least trying since you're interested. But maybe start with an easier, more fun book just to get your brain used to reading. Or even a manga/comic/graphic novel - they can be really compelling, and maybe also easier to start with. Once your brain associates reading with higher levels of dopamine, it will be easier for you to focus on more difficult literature like what this video talks about
@HabitualBlood
@HabitualBlood 6 күн бұрын
Don't let the need to comprehend or understand get in the way of enjoyment. It's art, not homework. Sometimes it's just nice to marvel at all the pretty words and shapes.
@johnreniel
@johnreniel 9 сағат бұрын
*decides to read Finnegan's wake
@HabitualBlood
@HabitualBlood 3 сағат бұрын
It's a fun one!
@makichas
@makichas 4 күн бұрын
Subtlety is not dead, even though it feels like it is these days.
@ToReadersItMayConcern
@ToReadersItMayConcern 9 күн бұрын
😍🤩
@HabitualBlood
@HabitualBlood 9 күн бұрын
❤️❤️
@yanezmx
@yanezmx 10 сағат бұрын
I really wanted to watch this video. But the audio is hurting my ears.
@HabitualBlood
@HabitualBlood 3 сағат бұрын
I'll edit it out after I get home from work.
@chunchism
@chunchism 9 күн бұрын
got jumpscared by my own voice 🙂‍↕️
@HabitualBlood
@HabitualBlood 9 күн бұрын
And what a beautiful voice it is!!!
@theothercomicguy
@theothercomicguy Күн бұрын
The chirping sounds are pretty annoying. The rest of the videos is great 👍
@HabitualBlood
@HabitualBlood 19 сағат бұрын
The noise element isn't going to work for everyone but I appreciate you watching regardless!
@theothercomicguy
@theothercomicguy 9 сағат бұрын
@@HabitualBlood of course, great video overall.
@pengchengliu9637
@pengchengliu9637 6 күн бұрын
The background chirping noise is too high pitched and grates against my ears, making this video unwatchable for me.
@HabitualBlood
@HabitualBlood 5 күн бұрын
I'm sorry it bothers you, I understand it's not for everyone. But thematically my use of noise against melody was part of the intention for the video. Maybe you'll be able to enjoy the next one 🙏 hope you have a good day :)
@R.L.Kramer
@R.L.Kramer 3 күн бұрын
@@HabitualBloodthe intention was there, execution wise recommend dropping it a few dbs. I had to stop watching
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