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The fact that the universe is the dream of someone makes the Lich's lesson make complete and total sense. As a child, you climb into bed and you're afraid of the dark. Inside your mind, there are only monsters. Then you fall asleep, and there's nothing. Then you dream, but when you're in a dream, it's like the dream was always there.

I mean, it's not hard to understand from a meta standpoint. Prismo's boss is the one who first dreamed up the multiverse and it's people and set the first laws. Prismo's boss is an external entity, not of the multiverse. AKA Pendleton Ward. Even without further episodes the multiverse continues to exist thanks to us, the fan base.

Adventure Time has the most complex, interesting, abstract and believable lore that I have ever seen, it is amazing

"What do you think, Finn? Can we pull back the layer of static and reach into the source of all being? Behind this curtain of patterns, this random pattern generator... so clever, right here in every home, watching us from a one-sided mirror." This quote from Ice King always stood out to me, and I think it's a bit of a meta commentary not only on Adventure Time being a show, but also how the Adventure Time universe works in the lorel. If there's no one watching the stories/episodes, then the show (and the world) will end. However as long as there are at stories to tell (not only in the minds of the "official" writers but also the fans) then the Adventure Time universe won't end because it has someone watching. When the Lich asked for "the extinction of all life" as his wish, the Universe didn't properly end because the Audience, Finn, Jake, and Prismo were isolated from that request and therefore there were still people watching and keeping at least part of the universe in existence. Sorry, old Adventure Time fan ramblings. I used to be big on theories back in the day 😅

it's kinda insane to think that because of the rules of the dream, if prismo's time room didn't work the way it did, the Lich's wish for the extinction of all life would have ended the dream instantly. finn, jake, and prismo perceiving their reality in the time room was the only thing preventing the universe from unraveling at the seams

The things I've always loved about AT working on this principle is that it gives the Lich's motivations so much more weight. He's not striving for death, or even extinction; his goal is the total non-existence of everything. Mu

The creation of the universe has to be connected to the extinction of the primordials. The way I see it, back then the primordials were babies (just in terms intelligence) that would throw around their massive powers with thought. Then i would wager some of them gained a understanding of themselves and their powers which eventually led to a primordial war that ends with the creation of the universe.

So Adventure Time does the "it was all a dream" thing but in a really cool way, neat

There way too many lovecraftian inspirations in adventure time for me to count. Like the cosmic imagination is just straight up based on a widely know misconception of Azthoth (of whom I bet Golb is also based on so a small theory I just thought up is Golb not simply being an aspect of the dream but in fact the actual representation of the cosmic imagination trying to burn down the dream and escape back to reality)

gotta love how casually they dropped COSMIC HORROR in a kids show like its just another episode repeatedly.

I think the Cosmic Imagination is a meta element Who was the first who dreamed Ooo? Well, it was Pendleton Ward, of course. He is the cosmic imagination. And now it is Adam Muto and the rest of the crew. Also, time existing all at the same time makes sense, and it's probably how it works in our universe as well. Space and time are one and the same, so if space exists all at the same time, why shouldn't time as well? It also ties to the cyclical nature of adventure time's history and themes

1:24 The song “will happen, happening, happened” from the last episode is 100% about this concept of all time existing as one moment

Something i don't see anyone mentioning is the picture of abraxas next to golb in the book Simon is reading when explaining what golb is. Abraxas in real life is the representation of the material world, either an avatar of the demiurge, the creator of the material world, or one of it's archons. Meaning that the golb might be another avatar or archon of the demiurge

Love that Adventure Time theorys and content is still being made, thank you!

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This reminds me Azathoth the blind idiot god, or the great dreamer or the nuclear chaos. In lovecraftian horror, i see azathoth as the reader. Because as the reader, you create the world with your imagination by reading the story. Once you stop reading and "wake up", the world in your head ceases to be.

Cosmic Imagination could be the next most powerful thing in the adventure time to the only being could be more powerful than the Cosmic Imagination is golb, the Cosmic Imagination is one of the most fascinating things in the adventure time verse, I’m really happy you cover this. “Hello sorry for my bad grammar I’m vietnam still learning.”

Man I haven't watched a lot of Adventure Time since I keep missing episodes back then but the amount of deep lore makes me want to go back and finish everything.

If magic is the ability to modify the laws of reality by realizing they are not real, and therefore can be changed on a whim, that would go into great lengths to explain why wizardry seems to lead to sadness and madness so often. Everything slowly stops making sense.

Si The litch might be the idea of "waking up" itself? Sounds like an amazing interpretation ngl

I like to say reality is just signals being sent to your brain, but it goes so much deeper and harder than that.

Adventure Time's abstract creation and magic system are similar to the Elder Scrolls and its concept of CHIM: to become aware that your reality is not real, that YOU are not real, but to reject that truth without succumbing to it and being erased from the dream entirely. It's such a fascinating concept to me.

interesting concept to have a universe that can only exist when it is perceived. do you remember that episode where magic man cast a spell on jake and he "fell" into a universe inside of him? he was the imaginer and the perceiver in that same moment. i wonder if the imaginer dreaming the "real world" exists inside of it as a perceiver as well.

There is a theory that all that dream thing is caused by Jake(the one sleeping and dreaming primo) Also question. Shouldn't that make the cosmic owl the most powerful being in the adventure time multiverse? After all it has the power to manipulate dreams so it tehnically could manipulate reality itself

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I absolutely love the idea that a conceptual force perceived (not created, invented or dreamt up) both reality and time, bringing them into our understanding of existence. This implies that reality was again part of the paradox of both existing and not existing before being perceived.

Your videos are amazing, keep doing it!! Thank you for all your work, on bringing us such a theme, i love this kind of content

Loving all of your videos!

I have to watch this multiple times. I agree with basically all of this and i kinda feel like it meshes well with our own reality and its rules. Literally cannot grasp this whole video at once lmao amazing content once again my dude ❤

The moment I first heard of the Cosmic Imagination I was reminded of the Godhead from the Elder Scrolls. It's an entity that unconsciously manifested the entire Elder Scrolls universe from its dreams, and exerts little to no conscious influence over its creation. There are a lot of similarities between AT and the Elder Scrolls, like beings that experience time in a non-linear fashion, and destroyers whose entire goal is seemingly to end all existence (The Lich and Alduin the World Eater).

Woah this is so cool! It’s taking a lot from the elder scrolls but fusing it with stuff from Mage: the awakening and that’s dope

If you read the kybalion you'll find out about how reality is all in our minds while also being a physical reality, but our perspective is unique and thus we are all living in our own universes that constantly changes while at the same time we live in a shared universe together. Life is just a paradox.

The community keeps AT alive and I love it man

I've rewatched the video 3 times, taken notes and paid attention to everything you said. In conclusion what

I think it's fascinating that the cosmic imagination is dreaming. it makes sense to me that everything would start as chaos, and then slowly reality would form around it. After all when you're dreaming it doesn't make sense, but over time you start to buy the strange setup that you're given in your dreams. Like when you just sort of understand something without having any way of knowing. I imagine most of reality is just a strange, entertaining, chaotic show that the cosmic imagination is just letting happen... but sometimes, something happens that is so fundamentally against how the cosmic imagination perceives reality, that it changes it. not much, just enough to keep the dream semi-coherent. This would also explain why entities that can affect dreams (king worm, nightmare princess, the cosmic owl, etc) are so rare and so powerful. Dreams are literally the foundation of existence so it makes sense that even mortal dreams are treated with such reverence

Abstract concepts in adventure time like life, death, imagination ect. Are way more abstract then how we in real life presuppose things, whether we know things for a fact or not. Things we believe in are only thought of because of us. Yet in adventure time, concepts themselves are universal constants, since if the balance of reality is held together through the power of belief. This shows that the world of adventure time only exists because WE see its happening.

Awesome vid i was so intrigued when i first learned of this and how it coincides with the magic users

Bruh this is Lovecraftian levels of complexity

You should also just look into how actual reality works. The concensus of shared objectivity is very real. White Wolf publishing explains the hidden sciences of reality in explicit detail through every book they've ever written.

I love how this is also just real life lore from esoteric books that actually exist.

Man I didnt realize that Adventure Time works on Elder Scrolls rules. When the Dream no longer needs its Dreamer

This is actually somewhat based on a real theory that the universe or multiverse (reality) itself exists and doesn't exist at the same time. What we experience is just an illusion of pure raw information from our surrounding "environment".

This content is truly consequential. A book I read that dealt with the same themes was a turning point for me. "Stars Aligned" by Olivia Whitestone

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How did i not notice this was only 4 hours ago. you got me hooked bruv.

“Remember, reality is an illusion, the universe is a hologram, buy gold, bye”

Great video!

You are killing it dude. see you at the top.

Excellent videos!

Good shit bro. Everyone's gotta read the Enchiridion, it's a trip

My man you were spitting fire at the end . I'm pretty sure I had a stroke somewhere along the way.

Ayyyy He did the thing!! :D *_Thank you very much my guy_*

Ngl…it might be stupid to say, but a lot of this sounds like quantum mechanics. Besides from the part of your beliefs influencing reality, it all does sound pretty simular…oddly. Maybe adventure time is just too far ahead lol

An interesting theory I though of: what if the Adventure Time Reality’s existence was caused by a Bootstrap Paradox Loop, maybe at some point in the distant future, someone learns about the origin of the multiverse and the primordial sea before it, then when time itself ends and the multiverse ceases to exist, this being is the last soul surviving, they use the cosmic imagination to create the primordial sea, then the entities in said sea eventually gain enough sentience and understanding of the cosmic imagination to create the multiverse once again (technically for the first time), this somehow causes their extinction and the events that lead to their creator’s creation (and their creation itself) begins

I forgot there was an Enchiridion released to be bought, and now I wanna book :)

This is also the secret of both the lovecraft universe and the elder scrolls universe. But if you think about it, doesn't that mean that everyone is also the person dreaming? If you were to encounter azathoth or something, could you not say "wait, that's me." And realize that you are inherently azathoth devoting some of its attention to roleplaying the life of a human?

This reminds me of all that CHIM and Godhead stuff from Elder Scrolls

I wonder how the deadworlds fit into this. Either A: They are inside reality and thus killing everything wouldn't end the dream, or B: they are outside and the universe would disappear but the deadworlds likely would stick around. This also might explain why the Lich worded his wish to Prismo so strangely "The extinction of all life" simply wishing for everything to die would just send them all to the deadworlds, but extinction is something permanent, and if souls are just life essence they would be destroyed as well likely ending reality.

It feels so weird seeing the transparent render of a comic page that I made for the wiki

The theory fits even better if you've seen the theory that puts Jake as an imagination god

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I think it's interesting cause you could technically deactivate The Lich by using the knowledge of the book. Prismo says that he deactivated in his time room because he couldn't escape or kill anyone. If you presented the fact that all times and universes are happening simultaneously to him you could prove that he could never achieve his goal cause if he could they'd all not exist. Sort of a "this statement is false" paradox for a computer.

Great video.

This always give me big Elder Scrolls Sleeping Godhead vibes

0:52 in the episode with the deer fin basically does fire magic without any knowledge of fire magic but with this description of how magic works that makes sense now

Sounds like there was alot of influence from HP Lovecraft, the concept of the universe being a dream isn't new by any means. It's incredible how much effort was put into a show made for kids , you only appreciate itullt when you rewatch it as a teenager or an adult

I just notices the way you introduce your videos are just like pancreasnowork is he an inspiration.

The ODDS of US surviving are ridiculously Slight! xD 00:00

i can embody the cosmic imagination by thinking a little bit and making up my own universe within the adventure time multiverse

So when BMO sang “if there were some amazing force outside of time to take us back to where we were and hang each moment up like pictures on the wall inside a billion tiny frames so that we could see it all, all, all- it would look like- will happen, happening happened. Will happen, happening happened and- there we are, again and again- ‘cuz you and I will always be back then” That uh. That was very literal lol

man i just watched adventure time when growing up i didn't know it was this deep

You should make an adventure time iceberg and give your thoughts on it. Just an idea if you ever want to make a long video.

I've recently been falling down a rabbit hole on youtube about quantum mechanics. It sounds complicated but most of the videos I've watched mostly focus on just the conceptual aspects and explain it in plain terms, without focusing too much on the math, even though quantum mechanics is pretty much 90% math lol. But the few philosophical implications of quantum mechanics are still fascinating. A lot of the aspects of the lore of adventure time kind of seem to be inspired by these ideas of quantum mechanics, and just theoretical physics in general. The idea that something does not exist unless there is an observer to describe it, or "believe in it" as you put it. The idea that time is nonlinear, our perception of time is actually an illusion. Even the little bit about the universe falling into chaos after all life ceases to exist. Some hypotheses state that when the universe eventually "dies" and is devoid of all matter (which would take like, a googol years), random quantum fluctuations will rule the world. It's difficult to explain, but basically the main idea is, that with enough time, anything that can happen will happen, sort of. In other words, chaos. A cat could just materialize into existence due to random quantum fluctuations (theoretically, at least). Of course, every single particle would have to randomly arrange itself into the perfect form of a cat. It's more likely for particles to arrange themselves into a boring clump of gas or something. Still, there's an infinitesimally small chance of the particles arranging themselves cat-wise, and because eternities are analogous to a nanosecond during this age of the universe, with enough time, it could eventually happen.

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This is so similar to Buddhist cosmology. We believe that reality is subjective and that the material universe is entirely dependent on the observer. We live in a dream-like reality, and enlightenment is waking up from it. Quantum physics is actually slowly starting to unravel this theory as well, with the recent Nobel Prize having been given to scientists who proved that the universe is not locally real. I love how Pendleton Ward has introduced so many Buddhist concepts into this show.

"Before there was anything. There was nothing. And before there was nothing. There were monsters"

The creator must've loved Morrowind and the idea of the Godhead

How do you pump out this many videos so quickly

Great video🔝👍

if you love crazy lore like this, i suggest checking out the elder scrolls games and their lore. honestly, its full of insane concepts that are way better than the actual games themselves, and i like the games.

I was NOT expecting a Galavant intro

comsic imagination: is an inconcievable entity of unknown origin or description truelocaweirdo: "he"

So basically Michael Kirkbride broke into Pendleton Ward's house while tripping on his usual mix of psychedelics and left behind his unused ideas for esoteric Elder Scrolls lore

Adventure Time isn’t the only series that operates off this idea, it also exists in Paradox Int.‘s World of Darkness, prominently in the Mage, & Changeling settings.

The way Adventure Time's universe works reminds me a lot of Mage the Ascension, where Consensus (reality and it's laws) is what masses consider to be true and Mages are those who saw through the veil and find themselves able to alter reality to some extent, with possible Paradox backlash from universe, as a way to punish them for breaking it's laws

The magic/dreamer in adventure time is similar to the concept Chim in the elder scrolls where a person realizes they and the world is a dream but still recognize they exist (poor summary check it out on your own). Once someone achievement chim that level of enlightenment grants them the power of a god. This is what talos used to become one of the Nine.

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A TV show. You described a TV show. It only exists when it's being perceived, events that have transpired are nonlinear, being able to play in any order at any time, but only making sense going to start to finish. With certain entities simply having more power based on their potential, otherwise known as their plot relevance. Remember that Golb's scream, that renda reality around him, removes the color palatte and degrades the style to a hand drawn animation, because reality is a show, with events that have a set beginning and end but can be perceived in any order, but must be perceived in order to exist. That is also what catalyst comets are, the addition of concepts or characters to the show. With the Hero Comet came Shoko, Finn, and now Shermy. With the Death Comet came the Lich, and the extinction of the Dinosaurs. The lore of Adventure Time is that reality is a narrative, and a narrative that seems to repeat time and time again, as Marceline said. Magic, by extension, is to realize that this place is unreal and your limits merely a manifestation of the status quo, and to bend the rules and do things a character within the fiction is not meant to be able to do.

So, Adventure Time is basically the Chuthulu verse for kids.

imagine if someone with imagination powers entered the adventure time verse, they would probably be all powerful

Bet the snail is an avatar of the cosmic imagination, always watching in the background.

Personally prefer uncivilized elks adventure time takes, highly recommend, but yours are good too

So is the reason why the people of Fiona and Cake universe exist is because people of Ooo perceived them that they exist through Simon's story. And the reason why Cake(non magical) popped out behind Simon's head is because he was the one who originally perceived their existence. Edit: Hahhaa got close on episode 4 Spoiler : Fiona and Cake universe exist because Prismo wants it to be real but can't wish it for himself instead prejected it to Ice King while he sleeps thus perceiving it and making it exist.

'ang about! Ice King says he doesn't dream of Fionna and Cake, but the images are beamed into his head when he sleeps. And these beams have been caught on VHS before...so the imagining of them makes them real and them being real influences the imagining of them...

Haha imagine a universe in which reality isn't real and is entirely dependant on perception. Wild.

Never thought that the Elder Scrolls and Adventure Time would share a baseline consensus on the nature of reality, sort of. The difference is that in the Elder Scrolls, the universe is not based on consensus but is acknowledged as not being actually real and instead a dream of an unknowable Godhead. The idea of being able to shape reality by believing things is also true but I imagine is far harder based on the criteria for doing so in ES.

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I think the excerpt from the book is more metaphorical than say legit. Its like that one saying, "if a tree were to fall and nobody to see it, did it really fall?" Or something like that. Though the reality being a dream of a higher being still makes sense and still explains magic. Magic is essentially manipulating the dream without following the basic rules of it. What princess bubblegum fails to understand is that magic is more reliant of ones will power than material needs like technology.

Similar to my class in buddhism, when we ask about why we are creates is because of our own Will and we are chaos in our first stage and branch to specific realm that we preceive, and infinite individual others specifically also preceive exactly same preceive Will be born on the same universe, and Will branch everytime we choose to take action, think, or feel create another alternate universe base on the different probabilty