This seems like a significantly better made, better researched, and more nuanced video than the last one. Well made, and the difference is dislike/like ratio is much better. Also haha I’ve never dropped my phone either but I have dropped one AirPods Pro rip
@MrGamelover232 жыл бұрын
From the sound of it you actually DO understand what's so great about the laptop. I think the title of that last video was the problem. I haven't even finished that video yet but I think that this video should have come out instead. You did a good job addressing the responses and a fair and non-antagonistic manner. Thanks for making this response.
@CoilWhine2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for coming by and giving this one a shot. I definitely had a lot of reading after that video happened and I try to learn here. Last one was definitely a bit of a knee-jerk reaction, but that's part of the small-channel learning experience I suppose
@MrGamelover232 жыл бұрын
You managed to gloss over the problem while explaining the problem simultaneously. The reason why people mentioned apple and not the 90% of products that aren't Apple is because apple is the world's most valuable company, so other businesses are going to take note of what they do that enabled that. For instance, after they got rid of the headphone jack, most Android phones got rid of it too. When the world's most valuable company became that way by being the most anti-consumer, it spells doom for us all because companies don't care about us, they care about money, and they see that Apple made the most by being anti-consumer. They're going to start mimicking the bad stuff.
@riopato20092 жыл бұрын
Reality check, Apple's pc market is only 8%. they contribute nothing but anti trust practices that other companies follow since Apple gets to get away with it for way too long. I'm hoping the EU strangle holds that sham of a company and exposes their flim flammery out to the public.
@div911X2 жыл бұрын
With so many people raving about Framework, I'm glad you brought these points up and went "against the grain" Because as a potential customer, I would want to weigh all the good and not so good points to make my own decision!
@gargaj2 жыл бұрын
I noted on the previous video that I sensed (a lot of) cynicism and I'm glad to see a more levelheaded approach. (And the Jinjer shirt. That's always a plus.) Thing is, I don't know what I expect from Framework, all I know is that I'll be fucked to buy a new laptop again because the charge port broke or there's a spot on the screen or something equally menial. Maybe that requirement makes it a niche. But I also think it's important for all trends to have a counter-example; as Linus said, companies got away with shitting on electronic right-to-repair because they were able to use their product's design to justify it, and I think it's important that there's a product now that fits into that category (ultrabooks, I guess) with a radically different internal design and business approach. It's important for options to just _exist_, that's where change has to start - change is still a long way away (if ever), but without options, there surely won't be any.
@chipmeister1112 жыл бұрын
I believe that Framework is a conception capable of causing a radical shift in what is important to many people hoping for a change and hopefully more and more people to come as creativity gets rejuvenated and new innovations that are ethical and fair arise to consumers. It's an idea who's time has come. Thanks for the episode.
@kurtnelle2 жыл бұрын
I hope this comment finds you well :) Here's the thing about this "vocal niche market". When I am asked by my friends or family which laptop should they buy, I'm going to immediately spout the word Framework. Why, because when it breaks or they need a new one they are coming to me to fix it (with no labour charge). It isn't about how end-user repairable it is; it's about the ease of repairability/upgradability. Further, I want two display ports on my laptop. That's one of the first things I'm going to try when I get mine.
@CoilWhine2 жыл бұрын
You do realize you can plug multiple displays into a single type c right?
@kurtnelle2 жыл бұрын
@@CoilWhine Yea, that's my last resort. Just finding a laptop with multiple DP 1.4 ability on the type-c is hard enough (and not an Apple product).
@MrGamelover232 жыл бұрын
I'm kind of waiting for someone to make dual Port sockets for them. I see no reason why you can't have a module that has two USB A ports, or you must be a port that also has an SD card slot in the same module. Or in your use case, a dual display port one.
@CoilWhine2 жыл бұрын
@@MrGamelover23 They talk about issues with the controller fitting inside the socket or other issues with maintaining compatibility or integrity for things like dual type C ports being able to both do display out.
@riopato20092 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I plan to do for every one of my luddite family members who's isn't remotely interested in the latest tech as long as it works. I immediately bought Framework's latest batch the moment I saw my brother's cracked screen on his 10 year old laptop and looked up what was involved in replacing just his display. No thank you . He breaks Framework's display, I know exactly where to go and know for sure it won't be a chore to fix it while not costing an arm and a leg.
@TonyLugo9072 жыл бұрын
It's so much easier to listen to your points after you've approached the topic with a MUCH better attitude. The first video felt like you were telling people they were dumb for liking that genre of music. This time, you allowed every to be okay with their choice and you were able to speak to why you specifically don't like that genre. Much better job.
@CoilWhine2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I tried to give it a better chance after practically living in their forums for a month. I definitely learned a bit about the tech, and a lot about how to approach a topic in terms of tone. Still a learning process for us here!
@Gooberpatrol662 жыл бұрын
-I bought a framework with the trackpad issue. I think the issue was allegedly that the connector could be pulled free, though for mine, it was rigidly seated, despite quite a bit of jostling by me. "Fixing" it took 5 minutes. -Bad thermal paste: I read that the issue was only with a couple of review units and that end users were not affected. -Audio buzzing: I didn't hear about this and I didn't notice anything. -Bad CPU: I use Linux (and not bloated Windows) so I'm unaffected by this. All it does is I guess make compiles take a bit longer. Day to day use I never get near to maxing out the CPU.
@CoilWhine2 жыл бұрын
Idk, I checked the forums a lot about the issues and honestly they're relatively minor. Trackpad didn't seem too bad, though it probably sucked for the first couple of guys. Thermal paste is also easy enough to replace, it's not a _widespread_ issue, but it's got a decent forum thread. Buzzing audio is one of those issues that's been difficult to replicate from what I hear, but it might be some sort of grounding issue. I tried asking people about what chargers they were using and if it happened while on battery but it was mixed. CPU is what it is. I just feel like it's a mediocre generation from intel and it's frustrating because the next gen is going to be a significant increase (unlike the usualy 3-5% gen over gen improvements we've gotten used to). Overall it's not bad, I'm just waiting on the marketplace and pricing of the upgrades/spare parts to really decide if this is the answer to our problems or not. A repairable laptop isn't that useful if the parts aren't around or are too expensive. I don't think that'll be a problem but the continued delays on the marketplace launch make me uneasy. I hope you enjoy it, I'm just personally waiting on a gen2 or 3 when it's a bit more refined (and when my laptop gets too slow). Thanks for the watch and the comment. What distro are you running btw?
@Gooberpatrol662 жыл бұрын
@@CoilWhine Well, they're going to have some online marketplace for users to buy/sell parts so I guess one could get one now and then sell the motherboard when the next CPU generation happens. >What distro Guix
@CoilWhine2 жыл бұрын
@@Gooberpatrol66 Yeah, I'm just wondering what the pricing will be. That'll be the big factor on if upgrading it is viable. Just gotta wait and see. >Guix I've never heard of that before. Neat
@OleksandrMilkovskyi2 жыл бұрын
Love the Jinjer Tshirt!
@vin_26202 жыл бұрын
Its nice that you are raising some valid concerns. I liked that you paid such close attention to the criticism and made another video. I don't need a laptop just yet so I'm not buying one but if this company still around in a year or 2 and have a ryzen version then I'll get one. The biggest thing for me is how open they are with schematics, repair guides and the marketplace for the third-party docks. Just that hot-swappable 1TB ssd is awesome and I can't wait to see what other people come up with! Cool that you mentioned ddr5, I didn't know it was just around the corner!
@CoilWhine2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, DDR5 was something I didn't realize until I sat down for this video, it's definitely something that most of us weren't thinking about. The hot-swappable USB drive is neat, but it's still only running at USB speeds. I'll be looking forward to some crazy fast thunderbolt-level drives in the future, even if they're kind of excessive in a laptop. I just want to see some cool stuff come out since this platform definitely has potential. Thanks for the kind words, it would've been easier to ignore everyone but I wanted to put out a video that I could be proud of, criticisms or not. I'm definitely happier with this one and I'll keep trying to improve as we move forward.
@vin_26202 жыл бұрын
@@CoilWhine Yeah man, keep at it :). I'm excited to see how both you and the company go in the future!
@Kiev-in-3-days2 жыл бұрын
@@CoilWhine "[...]something most of us weren't thinking about." There is probably a good reason for that.
@TheDeathmail2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I agree with you in the idea that the first gen is often not the best. It's the fact that if we don't support this, we might fail... and I'm somebody that can afford to compromise... But they are at least using 11th gen Intel at least... And it's not about the fact that the average person needs to repair their own stuff, but how difficult repair actually is.... Even being easier to repair for shops is a good thing.
@riopato20092 жыл бұрын
11th gen model now. 12th gen parts later next year and who knows what upgrade a couple of years later. Option to continue using old parts in a different chassis or trade-in old for new is possible too.
@Kiev-in-3-days2 жыл бұрын
Teaching how to use in computer like we are still in the 90s is not enough. Schools should teach about what's inside the box and, at least, how to UPGRADE computers.
@stanb14552 жыл бұрын
I mean, the biggest concern for me is the lack of an MXM 3.0 slot, but even then MXM is a dead standard(The most powerful card for it is the mobile RTX 2080, and even then the cards are different depending on manufacturer). Also, cards for this standard are quite expensive, and you're only really gonna find GTX 980Ms at a best case scenario.
@CoilWhine2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, MMX was a real letdown. It felt like nobody really wanted to support it, they just wanted you to _think_ that you could upgrade your gpu down the road. That's definitely not something FW has the ability to lobby for, and it's one of my bigger disappointments in the industry
@thaddeuscosse95272 жыл бұрын
It won't be for everyone, but I want these folks to succeed. We need this in the market.
@markcarpenter60202 жыл бұрын
Gotta say you're 100% dead on with how businesses work. When I was in college I worked at a place that was using PCs so old and the hard drives were so small most of the engineers had bought external hard drives to do their jobs. They absolutely refused to upgrade anything as long as it still worked. Heck they didn't replace the vibration amplifier I used until the company that made it literally refused to do any repair work on it. (That bad boy was so old some of the circuits still used vacuum tubes) and most companies view IT the same way they view QA. It dosent produce product so it's viewed as overhead and they wanna keep overhead to a minimum.
@riopato20092 жыл бұрын
when it comes to corporate it's all about the bottomline. Imagine an IT department having the ability to cheaply repair parts over time instead of adding to the e-waste of outdated equipment. instead of the pc maker swapping out devices it would be cost effective as well as time efficient to have a company department to do the same with very little training. Especially if the department requires certified staff.
@markcarpenter60202 жыл бұрын
@@riopato2009 you're right and wrong. It is about the bottom line......the bottom line next quarter. A corporation by law has to make maximum profit for investors so their planning rarely extends beyond the next 3 to 5 years with the focus on short term profits. It's why I tell people if you ever own a successful business and can avoid it don't go public.
@riopato20092 жыл бұрын
@@markcarpenter6020 wise words!
@jamham2942 жыл бұрын
you have a good day too man
@stacyhackney61002 жыл бұрын
Very informative, thank you.
@Pro720HyperMaster7202 жыл бұрын
18:50 I don’t like the waterproof argument, I think the Galaxy S5 left pretty clear that you can have both things
@CoilWhine2 жыл бұрын
yeah but reviewers basically panned it because "it felt cheap, looks like a bandaid, M7 is metal" and whatnot. The S5 is an excellent device and I _hate_ that it wasn't continued. That is kind of my point though. Tech enthusiasts love stuff like that, but the general public only cares about what's trendy, sleek, or whatnot. Thanks for the watch and comment though, I did follow up on this a month later with a bit more of a level head
@vpxc2 жыл бұрын
I think a thicker model with Ryzen and an AMD GPU or APU (because NVIDIA compatibility is dogshit compared to AMD's on Linux, especially for hybrid graphics) would be ideal for me, assuming Thunderbolt would still be arranged.
@CoilWhine2 жыл бұрын
Thunderbolt is going to be part of the USB standard I believe, so it should be coming to AMD soonish. It might take until Zen4 though, since I think we're getting one last Zen3+ platform before then.
@vpxc2 жыл бұрын
@@CoilWhine there are already AMD desktop boards with working support for PCIe Thunderbolt controllers
@maxtornogood Жыл бұрын
With the AMD Framework Laptop 13 / 16 coming down the pipeline I reckon you'd be looking forward to that!
@CoilWhine Жыл бұрын
Yeah, they definitely have my attention, especially with all of the funding they've been able to secure.
@whenpicsfly2 жыл бұрын
You should get your hands on one. Build it. Set it up. Use it for a few weeks. Still seems like you're judging a book by its cover. I've yet to show it to someone who didn't immediately ask "Why doesn't everyone do this stuff with their laptops?!"
@fraciswolfgang23262 жыл бұрын
I don’t think his mom will let him use her credit card.
@CoilWhine2 жыл бұрын
You're probably associating with tech-centric circles. If I show this to my mom, my boss, my brother, etc they won't care. They just go "it looks kinda like my mac" and that's it. Techies love to take their stuff apart, as do I. We're just a giant block of the market. We're a vocal _minority_. It's why phones are glued together slabs of glass without SD cards or replaceable batteries. Everyone wanted "premium" materials and "water resistance" so the manufacturers complied. I prefer a plastic phone myself but it's just not a common enough preference to find a high end phone with plastic, replaceable battery, AOSP, unlockable bootloader, SD card slot, headphone jack, etc. I'd love for it to happen, but there's not enough of us for samsung to care. Oneplus pretended to care but now they make the same crap as everyone else. That's the way the market works. As for getting my hands on one, I don't really need to spend 1k on a 4core laptop. I already have one and I've already used a device with the 1165g7. It's not that impressive and I wouldn't spend that kind of money on one personally. I'll wait for ryzen or alder lake, and I'll wait until I only have to buy DDR5 once and be able to transfer that to future upgrades if I feel the need. Seriously, Alder lake is going to smoke these CPUs and it's unfortunate that the framework is launching so close to the alder lake release. Take it as you will, these are just my thoughts and my experiences working with people that aren't very tech savvy.
@CoilWhine2 жыл бұрын
@@fraciswolfgang2326 I appreciate the constructive reply to my video. I will try to incorporate your feedback in future videos. Be sure to get subscribed and ring that bell!
@eugenkeller2 жыл бұрын
This is a nice comment.
@thedog5k2 жыл бұрын
It does feel tough. I’m all for right to repair, but there are blatant compromises by going for the laptop. Limited options, there seems to be a premium price for it (1k for an i5 is hefty) and the gamble that if framework fails, it’s not that repairable. This is at the opportunity of saving $150 for an mba or a new version in 6 months. I’m really hoping they figure it out because I want to give them my money. My only other gripe is that, I hope it’s not futile due to the general public and their attitude of not caring.
@lunaumbra51792 жыл бұрын
I'm new to this stuff but really how many components won't be replaceable if they go under? The bezel, main board, speakers, battery? How many of this components may end up with back stock by manufacturer and still available for years? How many compliments will there be that fit even if it wasn't designed for it? I'm still running a 2010 Thinkpad.
@Kiev-in-3-days2 жыл бұрын
True. It's like electric vehicles or green energies. Those are not perfect yet so why should we use or jeopardize our money in them? Oil and tech companies products are very reliable and that's all that matters!
@Kiev-in-3-days2 жыл бұрын
With you it's not a matter of the glass being half full or half empty. It's about the glass being made of stupid glass that will melt with the water when the SUN will explode in 4 billions years. After watching your video my conclusion is the problem is not really the product. It's your mindset. I am a coder, a developer and I am perfectly fine working with processors from 5 to 10 years ago. I buy used Thinkpads. With a good SSD and the right amount of RAM I see zero difference in my workflow between an old and a new processor and I am totally confident that machine processors will do the job for me in 2 years, 5 years or 10 years from now. You know, I am just creating things, not masturbating with speed benchmark and obsessing about always owning the newest and fastest. Anyway it's nice to see you try to help the company in your own way.
@lunaumbra51792 жыл бұрын
I gotta say, as someone still using 2010 laptop hardware y'all modern tech people are obsessed with specs and power. I'm only looking for new hardware because too much is failing. I can't wait until I buy a new laptop and see whether I change into y'all or happily scoff into the black void of forever.
@fraciswolfgang23262 жыл бұрын
Ok boomer
@michaelnolan17152 жыл бұрын
I punched mine and it didnt brick it (just a broken top half, still works and I am getting new screen on may 5th already replaced back of the lid, will replace bezel later) it was a little annoying to put the new back panel (cause I was stupid and didnt read online instructions) and also one of the wifi antena wires arent hooked up cause I gave up until I will put screen in
@GuillaumeDanat2 жыл бұрын
I like way more your approach on this video which is more constructive.
@CoilWhine2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I spent a lot more time on this video between the FW forums and the comments here. I'll keep trying to improve the quality of the writing moving forward.
@MrGamelover232 жыл бұрын
Now I'm glad I can't afford to just impulse by this thing. Hopefully they work out some of the kinks.
@MrGamelover232 жыл бұрын
Sure we already have the fairphone, but it doesn't sell outside of Europe.
@MrGamelover232 жыл бұрын
Side note regarding Samsung versus apple, the Chinese company xiaomi has actually started kicking their butts in the sales department, and are actually super valuable. Not saying there as big as apple, but they could probably be a lot bigger than Samsung used to be if they were allowed to sell stuff in America. I don't think any big Chinese company wants to risk that anymore after what happened to Huawei.
@CoilWhine2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I like Xiaomi. I bought a Poco F3 from Amazon _spain_ and had it shipped here. Fantastic value, shame it's almost impossible to get one that supports US bands. I had a huawei phone but the whole trade war and sanctions thing left it without any support. Huawei laptop is still kicking though
@lyoozero2 жыл бұрын
I agree with most of your points, and I think the like/dislike ratio is a bit unfair. I only disagree with you on the 4 core, 8 thread CPU being outdated thing. I think for most use cases this is quite sufficient, and the single thread performance of the Intel CPUs are quite decent to compensate a bit. I do agree however, with the point that it would be nice to the next generations CPUs for the long term longevity, of course.
@CoilWhine2 жыл бұрын
Your view on the cpu is totally fair, I guess I'm just spoiled by ryzen thread counts. The like/dislike is fine, it's better than my previous video on it (this is a much better revision). I think it's just that people are SUPER into right to repair and negativity towards the company is a strike against right to repair. I get it, I'm definitely about repairing my products as well, it's one of the reasons I don't own Apple products. Thanks for watching!
@Kiev-in-3-days2 жыл бұрын
So you believe him when he says he's nitpicking and bitching the product because he "doesn't want people to have too big expectations like with for Cyber punk"?
@xexat2 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why you got so much hate on your first video everything you brought up was a valid concern I pre-ordered a framework laptop knowing that I could have gotten one of similar power for cheaper elsewhere and that there will probably be a better motherboard released in a year I purchased one to be a guinea pig and show that there is an interest for this type of product Apparently people saw a problem with you not wanting to be a guinea pig
@riopato20092 жыл бұрын
Framework has one thing that's better than the big pc makers. No GLUE. Your argument about the average user not caring about hardware, guess what, they don't give a squat what cpu is in a laptop unless it's intel. Chances are Intel chips made the most sense and to risk developing a new business model based on secondary parts like AMD, not a good idea. Especially when thunderbolt is native to Intel chips which happens to be the basis to their modularity design. If u had a choice to make a phone between Qualcomm or Exynos, which would be the most likely better business decision to develop for? I currently got their batch 6 shipment and the initial issues i have yet to experience except one design flaw when screwing the chassis back on, Don't over tighten the screws or you will find that the power button can't be pressed to shut off the laptop. This can be easily fixed by using longer screws so that it would be harder to over tighten the keyboard deck back on.
@CoilWhine2 жыл бұрын
Few things to say, though I'm generally done with this product (I've replied to dozens of comments). Your first point is kind of contradictory. You claim that there's no glue (good!) but average user's don't care about performance. Who is this marketed to exactly? The average user cares more about ingress protection, weight, and frame rigidity than the existence of glue, and glue really helps with those characteristics. AMD parts aren't this crazy new concept from a nobody either, they're quite good and are more efficient than this generation of intel parts. Alder lake may be a different story, but this was not a good generation vs AMD in a restricted power envelope. I mentioned thunderbolt in the video, the reason is likely because of that + a decent discount as those CPUs are going to be replaced quickly by the 12th gen parts for most big OEMs. Thunderbolt is a big question for me though since there's been no addons that utilize it outside of an external GPU dock. I'm hoping there's some cool use cases out there but I haven't seen any yet. The comparison between Qualcomm and Exynos is actually really funny, because mediatek is being sold faster than either of those. www.notebookcheck.net/MediaTek-is-found-to-have-taken-its-biggest-share-of-the-mobile-SoC-market-ever-for-the-second-quarter-of-2021.568605.0.html I'm glad that your batch *6* unit is well built, by then the issues should have been resolved or I'd be quite concerned about their QC department.
@riopato20092 жыл бұрын
@@CoilWhine My contradiction is my point. Although glue has been the excuse of making ultra thin and rigid devices, the proof of concept to Frameworks design shows it's not necessary. AMD has shown they have improved their silicon in the lastest generations of their chip but compared to Intel, they still have an uphill battle recuperating their reputation to the mainstream public. Framework is still a startup and they need to stick to a business leader to be recognized as a legit company. To go into using a tarnished brand such as AMD is a risk no matter how much better the chip is compared to the standard it's competing against. Regarding thunderbolt, it's an intel licensed ip. Using an intel platform should be easier to have this port certified. Would you know what hoops is involved to certify this port on an AMD platform? Is there an equivalent for compatibility considering as U claim even thunderbolt is iffy as a standard regulated to a few accessories. How many egpus are using the usb spec btw? I knew you was gonna mention Mediatek which I purposely did not include in the comparison and you realize the comparison is really analogous to Intel & AMD. Samsung has been pushing really hard to be competition to Qualcomm but Mediatek is only more popular to the industry it's marketed to which is barely the US market and usually regulated to what is perceived by the consumer market as Chinese knock offs or kickstarter campaigns. Until we start seeing a flagship device using a Mediatek chip, it a non-argument. Huawei doesn't count until they can actually be sold globally. Lastly I agree QC needs to ramp up their standards but any quirks overlooked is possibly due to them being relatively new to this type of business model. I'm giving them a pass for now. My screen doesn't wobble when open as the earlier batches I've seen in reviews but I'm surprised no one has mentioned in their reviews the screwing the chassis too tight issue even though the company's instructions simply mentions in passing as this is a known glitch in design. For a company that should have a lot of growing pains, I think it's looking promising they will mature to a competitive pc maker in no time. I can't wait for them to make a 15 inch equivalent version with discrete graphics instead of compromising with a device with an apu. I'm thinking a thunderbolt style daughter board inside a larger chassis while keeping the same design of their current 13 inch board (for upgradable options to current buyers). I can see the port being a pass through for I/O and the larger chassis offering more room for a bigger battery. Yeah, I know it's a pipe dream but the possibilities are there.
@robertanthonybermudez55452 жыл бұрын
Your rant against a 4 core CPU is still invalid. Steam deck is a 4 core cpu mobile game power house. Tho i kind of understand where you are coming from.
@CoilWhine2 жыл бұрын
funny how a handheld at less than half the price has the same amount of cores isnt it?
@robertanthonybermudez55452 жыл бұрын
@@CoilWhine funny how a youtuber can't understand the concept of economy of scale. Were you expecting a device with a smaller pcb footprint, smaller screen with lesser pixel density, smaller battery, lack of keyboard and cam and produced in larger quantity should be equal in price ?
@CoilWhine2 жыл бұрын
ill say it again, but slower. its half the price.. and has the same amount of cores. Just like how there are other laptops out there that are equally as serviceable (no qr codes boo hoo) with twice as many cores. I know it upsets you buddy, we all wanna see framework succeed but 4 cores in a $1000 laptop is a joke.
@robertanthonybermudez55452 жыл бұрын
@@CoilWhine i'll say it again too but slower: e c o n o m y o f s c a l e And hey list those laptops here. Lets see how truthful your claims are of those laptops that are equally serviceable with no voiding of warranty upon user's tinkering right out of the box. List starts here:
@CoilWhine2 жыл бұрын
Buddy, we both know youre not here to comment in good faith, i could list an infinite amount of laptops and you would still attempt to turn this from a core conversation to a bezel and webcam debate.
@J0eMega2 жыл бұрын
Well similar to your car comparison, an important factor for a car is maintenance quality, which I’d equate to a computer’s repairability. I don’t care how nice a car is, if I have to get a completely new engine due to a broken spark plug, that car is both useless to me and way too expensive in the long run (I’m obviously exaggerating but you get the idea). Too many people just check the face value price and don’t consider the miscellaneous costs.
@Nightfire37142 жыл бұрын
i agree with this 110%. Also I.T. is a very thankless job. As someone who worked in I.T. for 5+ years its absolutely true
@theythemwhoswho2 жыл бұрын
I'm going to be a little nice. That was a long video. Thanks.
@ThatOneStopSign2 жыл бұрын
For some reason people think you're Billy Mitchell
@CoilWhine2 жыл бұрын
I guess I need to grow my hair out
@levimogford32022 жыл бұрын
lmao i was gonna buy one until you mentioned the cpu/gpu problem i can buy an 8-core with a great graphics card for the same price
@TheDeathmail2 жыл бұрын
I love how you stated that Apple is in a league of it's own. Truth is, the problems the products have are rare. While it seems like there is a lot of issues, people forget the scale of all the sales they have.... they sell so many devices that the problems are a minority in comparison. Their products often last a long time and survive well... Which is why they can get away with what they do. They have quality and their products are more fairly priced than people would like to admit (seeming to be expensive when looked at a bias perspective). It's a quality product for a good price from a fairly reliable company. The horror stories we hear are often such a small minority that they kinda don't matter. And that's what allows Apple to dominate and mess with these anti consumer practices. Because to most consumers, the quality and reliability of Apple products are so good, they don't need to worry about it.
@Invictus_Mithra2 жыл бұрын
This is just straight up not true. Go look at some of Louis Rossman's videos documenting some of the terrible engineering that Apple has gotten away with (he's most well known for right to repair but he has outlined issues with their designs before). Apple has tried to sweep those issues under the rug multiple times and only offered replacements when class action lawsuits were filed. Apple is also a very big status symbol brand and people are more willing to disregard the faults when they are also buying the product for social reasons.
@cafep28002 жыл бұрын
the only thing wrong is the pricing. $1000 for i5 11th is unacceptable. people are using 2012 macbooks to this day, so if you buy a m1 macbook right now, it will last for ages with no need to upgrade, and its cheaper, lighter, thinner, much faster and double or even triple the battery life. if only it came with a ryzen 7 5800u for the same price it would be amazing
@j0shuaj2 жыл бұрын
Except the m1 MacBook has an excessive use ssd use issue from launch (Don’t know if it’s fixed) and there is no way to replace the ssd even if you opened it.
@MrGamelover232 жыл бұрын
If it wasn't for the silicone shortage I guarantee you that they would have the ryzen 7 5800u.
@robertanthonybermudez55452 жыл бұрын
clickbait thumbnail.
@CoilWhine2 жыл бұрын
What kind of thumbnail would you suggest then? I'm open to suggestions, I just don't see how this is clickbait
@robertanthonybermudez55452 жыл бұрын
@@CoilWhine your thumbnail gives the idea that you have the framework laptop with you. But i won't expect something better from you.
@CoilWhine2 жыл бұрын
@@robertanthonybermudez5545 Thanks for stopping by again old friend.
@agtugo91972 жыл бұрын
I liked the content but you took too much time explaining the same thing over and over again.
@CoilWhine2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that you liked it, I just had to take it a bit slowly since the prior video required a significant follow-up. There's a _lot_ of interest in this laptop and a lot of newer faces getting on board. Felt like I had to go over some stuff a bit more thoroughly than I normally would've liked to. I'm still working on scripting videos out a bit better as well, thanks for the feedback!
@MacTX2 жыл бұрын
Framework laptop a decade ago would have been revolutionary. Today, it's just meh.
@jakedill13042 жыл бұрын
A decade ago a large amount of mainstream laptops allowed you to do more and most of the things this laptop features... so probably not.
@MacTX2 жыл бұрын
@@jakedill1304 not in this form factor. the mainstream laptops from that era were bulky and heavy, they were bricks.
@MrGamelover232 жыл бұрын
The laptop wore you don't even have to take you to a repair shop to fix is pretty damn revolutionary.