As a lay minister, I have to say this is the most theological/biblical sermon/lesson I have listened to regarding this subject. I don't know what "Second Selected Passages" is, I'll have to look that up. Other than that, I am happy to see that a pastor/preacher is trying to do the right things by saying the right things and being within biblical bounds. Mr. Batchelor has obviously taken the time to research this subject, used scripture to back up this subject, and gave the lesson with love. I am, from a lay minister's point of view, have found comfort in my soul and mind that perhaps not all pastors/preachers have lost their minds.

jesus said you know them by there fruit, pastor DOUG is 100% on the doctrine of JESUS. amen

I love this sermon 😍 Thank God for this pastor 😍❤

The Hand of The Lord be on this ministry and on this pastor and my God keep him humble and holy and let him not miss heaven or those listening.

Thank you for this message. I’ve been a victim of the Charismatic Movement and called a heretic because I didn’t speak in tongues.

once again doug very good...

If you don't understand or see the supernatural power of God then you have a hardened heart.

Thanks for this video

Years ago,I was going to a church that babbled,one lady told me say,scoobeedoobie doo.how hard was that to see right thru!!??

If you're going to leave 1 Corinthians 14:1-2 in the comments, please note that he addressed 1 Corinthians 14 from 37:03 onwards.

I agree with the Pastor Doug 100%! Thank you for your explanation!!

Paul said ,l pray in the spirit ( in tounges and in understanding ( language that's known) .

Yes Pastor Doug is right on the money was speaking in tongues over here in Yuma Arizona a lot of the so-called Christian churches are doing this

Pastor Batchelor I do understand and believe you are a born again Christian man of God and that makes you my brother in Christ. You do quote several scriptures that deal with speaking in tongues as recognized human languages. I absolutely accept that. To be honest I do come from a charismatic background but I have questioned some practices in some of the churches I have attended. It is absolutely true that some of these practices are out of order within the church. Paul gives us clear instruction in Corinthians regarding that matter. Being a learned man of God I know you probably have better understanding regarding biblical interpretation than I, but the scripture directly speaks of talking alone with God speaking mysteries by the spirit. In 1 Corith 14:5 from my laymans perspective it seems that the Apostle Paul is encouraging believers to speak in tongues, but he would rather we prophesy. My question is this. Does speaking in tongues when you are alone with God exist in scripture? I beg your indulgence with another question as I am desperately trying to find a "denomination/movement" to call home. My final question regarding scripture is this: It seems as though Paul had similar issues with the church at Corinth during his time. How do you reconcile 1 Corinthians 14: 14-15 which seems to indicate that Paul says that when he prayed in tongues his spirit prayed". Does this mean that the author of the majority of the new testament is babbling with the spirit the enemy? I believe as members of universal church , "The Body of Christ" we need to be very mindful and consider our words very carefully when discipline is applied to the entire body of Christ. It causes division and strife within the body when these messages are made public. I do understand that you must determine your own interpretation of the scriptures but I believe the scripture is very clear that all discipline should be given in a spirit of love. Especially considering the complete body of Christ as this is a public message and not a message contained within the confines of your denomination.

Yes,in churches around these county's they have many affluent members...its crazy,when they start rolling on floor,run around church....it scares me....

Great message. I do have a question though. What does the gift of interpretation of tongues entail then?

The bible says that tongues are for a sign to unbelievers. Also when you pray in tongues you pray to Father in Jesus name. The Bible clearly says that you were edifying yourself when you pray in tongues and that in public there should be an interpreter in one or two people should be speaking in tongues at a time in public with an interpreter or else the person who is excited and speaking in tongues she didn't become silent if there is no interpreter I pray in tongues it is a gift I asked God for this gift early on because a lot of my cousin I spoke in tongues and I love the way it sounded I was 15 and it felt powerful I loved what it felt like when they would pray for me I so full I felt complete it after having being prayed for in tons and the lord gave it to me and I've had ever since I'm 47 years old now is a gift certainly that can be developed or underdeveloped you can have diverse tongues where you can get stuck at the first time you spoke when you first spoke but if you pray in tongues all the time your tongues change they become fluent they become more diverse they become interchangeable I also asked for interpretation even when I'm alone I can interpret my own tongue it is an it a partial interpret interpretation and it takes time for it to come through the actual understanding I'm a working progress tongues are a working progress it is a gift that you work on it is a gift that you continue to use or it becomes less effective it's just like anything that you don't use for a while it becomes Rusty and when you pull it out to use it it's not as efficient same things with your tongues which reminds me I need to go pray in tongues right now excuse me

I am just interested why was this scripture not addressed, and others like it? For he that speaketh in an [unknown] tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth [him]; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.

Pastor can you discuss what is the gift of the Holy Spirit in Acts 2 38?

Another observation/question in regards to the use of 1 cor 13:8 passage on tongues ceasing......Has prophecy failed and knowledge vanished away as well? Or only tongues ceased?

When one pressured me by...priming the pump,as told on this video,I kept saying,our father,who art in heaven....

And as was mentioned by another commenter....the unknown tongue that is to God, where does that fit? Im asking sincerely because it appears there is a tongue not unto man but also unto God. Id be standing on dangerous ground saying all tongues are for men to hear the gospel when the text says there is an unknown tongue not unto men but unto God. How do we harmonize this with the spreading of the gospel?

“Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.” I Corinthians 13:8

1 Timothy 1:6-7 NASB For some men, straying from these things, have turned aside to fruitless discussion, [7] wanting to be teachers of the Law, even though they do not understand either what they are saying or the matters about which they make confident assertions.

And when they were in the upper room, the 120 that were gathered that were present when they began to speak in other tongues, befote it was noised abtoad and some thought they were drunk....whobwas it the tongues were for in the upper room? Just a question and observation

If we fully study any topic in the Bible with a in-depth study of the words used in the proper context then the Holy Spirit will show us the truth in complete understanding.

I was curious about the reference to the tongues or languages of angels that I found in 1 Corinthians 13:1, thanks. 1 Corinthians 14:14, some Bibles get translated 'my mind is unfruitful'. My NIV Bible says that. I suppose it should be 'the minds of others are unfruitful'?

The fact fractions of Christianity are so divided speaks volumes in my humble opinion. We dont know everything we think we know, we arent the authors of truth, God is, and He revealsbto whom he will and the widespread division on this topic and many ither basic truths leads me to believe that we all have bits and pieces of truth so its our job to look into the 12 baskets full of the remains of the 2 fish and 5 loaves and see where we end up when the true judge shows up on the scene. In the meantime come and let us reason together and consider one another rather than ridicule, bite, and devour another

SDA's should read 2 John. I suspect it is addressed to them.

I listened to this guy on tv til he said speaking in tongues is gibberish or something to that effect. It's supernatural. People who do not walk in the spirit would not benefit from it and its blessing.

Pastor Doug Bachelor use to pastor the Waterflow Christian Center before it became the Waterflow Seventh Day Adventist church. Anyway he mentions that the Navajos use peyote or hallucinogenic and hollow all night long which isn't true. He says that they speak in strange tongue which isn't true either or roll around. The truth is I use to go to these peyote rites,and I know what went on. There was no speaking in tongues or rolling around, it was done in a orderly fashion. I use to go to these ceremonial rite,don't go there no more.

All these tongue speaking churches have intelligent people who are not wise . The should seek wisdom

Pastor Doug Batchelor, I agree with everything you're saying. However these spiritual gifts are given to the church to profit us. But if the church is not teaching these gifts, how are the Body of Christ to be aware that they can have the awareness which gift they have? Similarly, the healing of Jesus is for the church. But if the church fails to teach this, i.e. hold healing services, would the Holy Spirit heal anyone? The answer is No! Jesus is more than A Saviour! Jesus is everything we believe Him to be! This is why He's our El-Shaddai. I'm saying this because many Adventists have died prematurely, when they could have been healed!

I didn't think this was that important, but I have a landlord that was put off the whole church/God/Jesus thing by the erroneous version of the gift of tongues. I might have to show him this video at some stage. My parents do it a bit (though praying quietly to themselves) but I could not pinpoint it in the Bible, and as I had not read much of the Bible back then, I assumed it was on one of the hundreds of pages I hadn't read. Interestingly I asked mum what language it is, and she said a heavenly prayer language, but didn't know what it meant.

1 Corinthians 14:39

Just Read the bible, then ask God To explain it in his understanding?

I believe he is wrong speaking in tongues is a gift from God. GOD is speaking to you, but you are NOT to speak out loud unless there is someone to interpret what you are saying, if not you are to sit quietly not to speak. I do not have the scripture to write here at the moment but it's in the Bible. I also believe that some /many fake it there are going to answer for that. But there is truth to speaking in tongues. It is one gift from God. Look it up.......

1Co 14:13 Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret. 1Co 14:14 For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful.

Wisdom at its best ... well spoken ....

i watched when tony pamer came to Kenneth Copeland church an tony said the pope asked him to pray for them..he said we dont know how to pray like we should..so he spoke in tougues instead of praying..the program was watched by someone else an when that guy recorded what he had said..then he asked someone else that spoke differnt languages what did copland say?.an to my surpize kennth copland was talking about tacos an burritos..an sea shells..when he was surpose to just pray.no one even understud any of what he had said.he was surpose to just pray..what hypocrisy.another person said they were teaching others how to do it also..

I recieved the baptism of the holy spirit and spoke in tongues I was not in a church at the time i was by myself it was perfection one of the most beautiful connections between me and Jesus. I dont agree with the misuse of the gift in churches as they are going against 1 corinthians chap 14 worth reading for all christians but my point today is there is a personal tongue that paul speaks about it is in cjap 14 v 19 another point the pastor missed if they are only human languages to share the gospel with why is there a gift of interpretation do we have to interpret them back to another language so people understand no no there are divers kind of tongues 1 corn 12 v 10 he fails to mention this

It`s a pity that in your teaching you never spoke about praying in other tongues which is prevalent in the churches today spoken off in 1 Corinthians 14 but you claim to have exhausted everything about tongues in your teaching. There is a difference in preaching to people and praying in tongues sir and beware of calling pagan what God has ordained to edify believers.

If anyone chooses to do Gods will he will ask the Father if his teachings were spoken through Jesus. John 7:16-17 Not because you think he did but because he said to do this. And if anyone hears and believes him who sent Jesus has eternal life. John 5:24

Do you think, that those Gallalians new at the time they we're speaking a foreign language, or did it just sound like gibberish to them, their are well over 100 plus languages in the spoken world today, maybe Doug Batcholar is an expert on 1 man's gibberish actually being a spoken language, who knows !

It is far-fetched to you you actually have to walk in and I also walk in the prophetic calling something I totally didn't ask for something that I had since I was a little girl a gift of Prophecy a gift of seeing things and gift of knowing some things before they happen I walk in the office of a prophetTess

Please listen to demonic chanting, and realize the similarity. For those who keep saying it's not from the devil.

Wow, I am ashamed at these conversations. Are we not supposed to be brothers and sisters in Christ? If discrepancies in doctrine displaces our love for all the members of the body of Christ than this complete discussion is utterly meaningless, and brings division and shame to the body as a whole!

Pr. Doug Batchelor, The lady was right when se said you're not baptised in the Holy Ghost, when you said you don't speak in tongues, As the Five Biblical accounts of people receiving the baptism in the Holy Ghost, Making tongues the Biblical evidence of the baptism in the Holy Ghost.If you were baptised in the Holy Ghost, You would know that feelings follow faith.Tongues come from our born again Spirits, 1 Cor 14: 14--15, NOT our heads.The gift of prophecy, ISN'T preaching or teaching.You don't half show you Biblical ignorance about tongues, when Paul talks about the need to speak in a tongue that people can understand in1 Cor 14: 9, He was talking about edifying the Church, 1 Cor 14: 9--12, But there are OTHER operations of tongues recorded in that same chapter.One of them is OUR SPIRIT PRAYING, v14--15, Which you come against.Paul said when he prays in tongues, it's his spirit praying and HIS understanding is unfruitful, NOTE the word, "MY", not the congregation.The disciples NEVER preached or taught in tongues, They spoke the wonderful works of God.When God gives a gift, such as tongues, He never takes the back, Your teaching is devil inspired and bring confusion to TRUE Bible seeking Christians. It's quite obvious that you aren't baptised in the Holy Ghost.

I had some familiarity with the so called 'speaking in tongues' when I was young and learning from the SDA's while my best friend had gotten involved with Pentecostal's tongues movement. It was easy for me to see through it back then as a non-authentic Bible practice. All it takes is a little bit of the right information from a good Bible teacher or book, and your own human noggin reasoning powers! Boy! what a deception! even though to my knowledge my friend never practiced it and eventually left the Pentecostals behind, after some frank discussions on the topic of speaking in tongues.

I speak in tongues and I know I'm talking to Jesus.

You really should not lead people wrong, because this particular sermon is not True.

1 Corinthians 14: 2, " For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to people but to God". Verse 4 Anyone who speaks in a tongue edifies themselves..." Verse 14 " For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my mind is unfruitful". Verse 18 " I thank God that I speak in tongues more than all of you".

Where does it say in the word of God that tongues are done away with? You cannot tie in the tongues at Pentecost in Acts 2 with the gift of tongues in 1Corinthians 14. You must study the Word of God with spiritual eyes. JESUS SAID: It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.." John 6:63. The tongues that were given to the disciples at Pentecost were to be used to preach the gospel to the JEWS from other nations. "And there were dwelling at Jerusalem JEWS, devout men, out of every nation under heaven." Acts 2:5. These tongues were FOR MEN TO UNDERSTAND! "And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born? ActsS 2:8 The gift of tongues that was given to the Body of Christ through the Apostle Paul were to be used for PROPHECY or to speak ONLY TO GOD! " For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh NOT UNTO MEN, BUT UNTO GOD: FOR NO MAN UNDERSTANDTH HIM howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries." 1Corinthians 14:2. " Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret. For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my SPIRIT prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful. "What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also. 1Corinthians 14:13-15 KJV. Furthermore, the gospel of the circumcision (the Jews) was given to Peter and the gospel to the uncircumcision (the gentiles) was given to the apostle Paul; "But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter; (For he that wrought effectually in Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty in me toward the Gentiles." Galatians 2:7,8,

@ Pastor Doug : I have great respect for you and admire how you talked about Sabbath in a debate regarding it with another minister. But i totally disagree with you in this message regarding gift of tongues. (Starting from 23: 29) How come prophesy is equal to preaching..first of all you should not utter a word of teaching about gift of tongues as that's not your cup of coffee. Why are you twisting another biblical truth to play down the uniqueness of gift of prophesy? I advocate you first ask forgiveness to the Holy Spirit and fast & pray..maybe if God willing he will gift you the 'tongues' or prophesy and then you will realize the truth. The Truth will set you free and wherever the Holy Spirit abounds there is liberty (2 Corinthians 3:17)

Ok so I loved most of the amazing facts videos that I've seen but a few things he states kind of make me go ummm.....I'm not so sure about that...like I don't think Biblical matters that are up in the air because they could be interpreted in different ways should be decided with such unquestionable certainty. I.e. He said states that the term "sons of God " definitely means other created beings considered Gods children (in the same way born again believers are) exist somewhere out there in the universe. In addition somehow he manages to define the unpardonable of sin of blaspheming the Holy Spirit as the rejection of Christs salvation. So apparently in this video he says what we see in churches today (the strange speech emitted by worshippers) could likely be from unclean spirits . the prevalence of "speaking in tongues " is much too common to be attributed to fakery or demonic influence. Lastly he denounces dancing exuberantly /strange behavior (or something along those lines) in worship as being of he flesh. Well king David was a man after Gods own heart and that is exactly what he did. There had been other things he said that caused me to pause for a second but I cannot recall at the moment. This goes to show that no human is perfect God cannot be explained or put in a box by finite minds. And this is coming from Ellen g whites biggest fan. as Christlike as she was even she made very human mistakes which I'm sure anyone knowledgeable of her knows what those were.

First fore most why did he command the disciples to wait in the upper room? why would they need to hear the tounge in there own language when all were from the same region of Israel? The proof is the didn't. the power they were waiting on was the same power that rose God from the dead. Also why were they accused swing drunk at third hour of the day. they weren't they were filled with the dunamus power of the holy ghost a language that Satan can neither understand or interrupt it's between the child of God and there heavenly father. Unfortunately the Seventh day Adventist have some things right returned to God's commandments. The Sabbath as Saturday. I have a few well know I'll call them acquaintances because never once Did God manifest in the flesh out women over the church. Neither Ellen G White to hear her name at some there devices males my skin crawl it's as her words are greater than the Bible. I say this because we're not supposed to talk about our neighbors man if they'd let Ellen G White RIP and go with the power of the holy ghost they.would have a powerful ministry. But hasn't happened in many many years don't see it happening now. It sad because I see them selling themselves short.

I listen to the entire message and quite frankly it was hard for me to seat in and listen. The whole premise of the message was to discredit the part of tongues that is not understood by man. It’s funny how he read 1 Corinthians 14:1-2 but leave the part that says no man understand it because you are speaking to God. For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries. He also said that Corinth was a booming seaport with a diversity of people with different languages and that Paul was saying they would have different speakers that would speak in the language or in their tongue so they were creating confusion. People of God stop that. That is not what the scripture is saying. Paul spoke about a spiritual tongue that needed interpretation, so you mean to tell me these people were only able to speak their home language and nothing else. You mean to tell me no one else in that group spoke that same language and if some did they couldn’t translate for those who couldn’t. Come on people that is logically impossible. How than did Paul converted and formed a church with people who couldn’t understand each other and only spoke their own language. I hope y’all see where I am going with this. I am sure he mean well but that is not what Paul was talking about. The unknown tongue was simply unknown. Jude talks about praying in our most holy faith because it build an edifice in us. But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost. That is meant for you and you alone not for others. Anyway I hope that help somehow.

What about 1Corinthians 14:2? I'm a tongue talker. And it is genuine and not that of devils. Just because someone can't interpret it doesn't mean it's false or evil. It is very real and anyone can receive it. Whether you belive it or not, is on you. It's a very strait and narrow path that leadeth unto salvation, meaning, most people will just discount it as jibberish and unnecessary. And contrary to belief, the majority of people do not believe in speaking in tongues. Being an Israelite that has had the experience, I know. Shalom

1 John 2:27 KJV But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. Why is he trying to force me to understand the scripture his way. He needs to focus on the sabbath. The teaching of speaking in tongue's is not his specialty. It seems like he's trying to make the scripture say something that is not. To receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking in a tongue, you must have a broken and repented heart.

All blasphemy shall be forgiven.....all bible students know the rest. Id wanna be 100% sure saying what is and isnt a move of the Spirit of God. Ive seen lots of questionable activity from some claiming to be under the Spirit of God but words carry much weight as well

For the first time pastor Doug skipped other scriptures in the new testament that talks about tongues and focused on newspaper reports to push a narrative. this post is full of half truths and misconception. How come he didn't mention the fact that on the day of Pentecost that the people said that the apostles were DRUNK and peter had to explain to them about the holy spirit. How orderly is a drunken man?

I speak In tongue, the gift certainly exist. I don't understand it but it is surely a language.

What was scary recentlly,a woman was woohoo xonvencing,quoting much scripture,and speaking highly morel...her church trains several female pastors too....i could tell,after a few sentences and attitude,I wondered....

I stopped listening when he started reading from Ellen White.

It's hard to explain speaking in tongues if you've never spoken tongues I would say you should leave speaking in tongues message to someone who can better explain it because I think that you're all the way out there trying I believe that you have good intentions but you're missing a lot

Doug's wrong. I speak in tongues. It doesn't require conscious thought, but it is not a trance. If you are distracted and say, "...you know what I'm sayin'", it's like that, except the words are foreign and unlimited.

Catholics use hail mary,very repetitive speech,but each bead represents something...

The reason theres no brain waves in cognitive part of brain is because its spirit to spirit communication DUUH doug batchelor dont be jealous of tongue speakers lol your still awesome teacher though one of the greatest assets to body of Christ

Its not jibber jabber, This is where you will miss out on supernatural

You should pray and asked for understanding before you teach on something you don't understand. Baptism of he not the spirit and the gifts of the spirit are different. You receive the gift of tongues after the baptism of the Holy Spirit.

GOD, HATES WHEN PREACHERS TEACH ERROR, AND THIS PERSON DOES TEACH ERROR, IT IS SO SAD AND THIS GRIEVES THE HOLY GHOST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sad to see most of the people making comments here have absolutely no clue about the Baptism of the Holy Spirit and speaking in tongues so therefore like this Preacher who is clueless when it comes to this subject people like him take scriptures and totally twist the word and the meaning to fit what he’s saying which is False teaching please people learn to study the Bible for yourselves and ask the Holy Spirit to guide and lead you

People Please read your Bible, Jesus is returning SOON, just look around. 1 Cor.14:1-5 For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to people but to God. Indeed, *no one understands them*; they utter mysteries by the Spirit. One who speaks in a Tongue edifies himself, but one who prophesies edifies the Whole church. 1 Cor. 14:13-15 Therefore let one who speaks in a tongue pray that he my interpret. For if i pray in a tongue, my Spirit prays.

It is amazing to me that people today still do not understand speaking in Tongues. Tongs are a language spoken in the world many different languages are in the world. The Apostle Paul said Tongues of men and angles. The Baptist teach that all the gifts of the spirit are no longer in operation today. They are wrong. The baptism of the Holy Ghost is a separate work of grace. I have never seen anyone that was filled with the Holy Ghost that didn't speak in tongues. The Holy Ghost witnesses that He is there.

I stopped listening.i knew straight away his theology is 7thday adventist. Only born again spirit filled people understand this. Usually the ones who do not speak in the supernatural TONGUE OR LANGUAGE that think they know it all. Lol

He isn't right on this subject. He speaking what he's been taught. He doesn't use all scriptures because some contradict what hee is saying. I do believe A lot of denomination have gone crazy with this..

When a person is baptized in THE HOLY GHOST they do speak in tongues, this poor person DOES NOT KNOW WHAT he is talking about!!!

This guy is so off. Man is he off!

Amazing deception being taught here. The blind leading the blind.

I started to like your teaching until this video. I totally disagree with you Pastor Doug.