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No

**Screams in Spanish**

mor lik is that a sr pelo without the obligatory top comment, so here you go have a like

Yes

It’s a good thing 2020 is here

I know I looked up sans and the things i saw gave me nightmares

@@samueltrevino12 when I showed my friend Undertale I had to manually filter everything because even SafeSearch can't block the wave of disgusting fanart

Portal, Minecraft

I mean, most people probably wouldn’t avoid the plague, given recent events...

Yeah, even though it is technically a fault, the game mocks it and explains it.

@@kobensutherland6652 I mean I feel like you can point out the games narrative and ruleset from a distance _without_ mainly making it seem purposely unfun to play through

@@kobensutherland6652 I actually think it was supposed to be this way so the game can predict what you'll do. (Neutral route, then pacifist and finaly genocide). Plus, most of "history telling" aren't funny to play again (lara croft, redident evil, the last of us, little nightmares...etc)

This essentially explains why a player would do Genocide runs. Without any concecuence (aka playing a game), you just do it for shits and giggles. Which is what I did (and the music)

Chat kind of exploded during the premiere just spamming "BAD BIN" when that happened. Made me chortle

So what's the GOOD BIN then?

Only like 3 years after realese

Of course he did this game is cancer

*”oh hi mark”*

Garek Alejandro Limas Peña I’m sorry if I’m not understanding what you are saying but could you clarify on Undertale being “popular” communities? As for Devinart...I agree that it’s a messed up place in some areas, that I can agree with, which is why I’m not gonna bother going on there anymore.

Garek Alejandro Limas Peña Of course, I have no problem if others like or dislike something. I personally don’t like the fanbase or the toxic parts at least, but I enjoy the game and what some fans make of it.

Garek Alejandro Limas Peña Ah okay. I’m sorry if I mistaken you for not liking the game.

Terraria?

you may know me as spooks no just undertale

Same

Same

Yes

AAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH

Anybody know what that thing at around 9:30 is?

Ok, so, sorry for saying this in your comment and for sounding like an idiot (because I haven't been in the Undertale fandom for a while), but I just realized that Deltarune is just Undertale with scrambled letters.

@@crazedrambling16 yes it is! Deltarune is actually technically an AU (alternate universe) of undertale, it was just made by toby fox so its considered official.

An OAU (Official Alt Universe)

@@Ace0fArts or a prequel

*You're

Yeah exactly! People always focus so much on the negative, heck even i do from time to time. But it helps bring people together. Like im a salty little sass but ive seen lots of people make friendships and collabs in my discord or streams Glad ya dug it like i dig your animations

Woah you're here. I love your videos Gael!

thank for fish luv u

I always visit your channel for fishy love

Me too

U da talented animator

if it is to put body-horror on asriel to spite the UTfandom, yeah, it will happen, part2 probably will be a next year thing as I want to pull off the bodyhorror properly....

Fuck you stupid cat and ugly

That Mettaton NEO animation was just so mind blowing and the first UT animation I’ve seen with such incredible quality and talent put into it. Truly a work of art and inspiration, i thank you.

@@ScottFalco be quite mumkey

I'm pretty sure it was based off the dud who made mighty no. 9

@@kingdedede6982 mighty no. 9? Never heard of it

@PlartEEY I’m pretty sure it was this mega man inspired game that was heavily advertised and had a popular Kickstarter, however when the game came out it was an extreme disappointment and not many people liked it

@@AHappyPotato yep

@@AHappyPotato That’s fine with me. Regardless it still applies to YandereDouche because Scott has made a video poking fun at him before, even if he was talking about the MegaMan game. Although I’ll admit that it does make more sense given how big a MegaMan fan Scott is.

Guess he had a unfortunate experience

@@A_real3am don't you mean....a bad time? *baudum psh*

Son Gohan that’s what I said a awful event

A uh oh hour

@@A_real3am ....woosh

Sneez Space noodle the middle ground was often annihilated by the fandom. So when the fandom was forcing their ideals onto people who were neutral about the game, their opinion worsened over time.

ok centrist

Yeah I agree

like yeah i really enjoy the game but it isnt fucken perfect lol

I haven’t played it so I don’t have an opinion on the game but I might come round to playing it one day.

Even if you kill ...hitler😂

@@kamwaty so that means if you kill hitler you are hitler because hitler killed himself

cute Azmi damn. That’s deep.

In the circumstances of the game people would laud you as a hero

Yeah 😌

THIS is a good argument to jusitfy "blaming the player for Killing is bad" And it's surely the only thing that does justify this opinion.

@@lollol6978 not really, some bosses can be spared before they even attacks, you can always flee from battles, the game dosen't really treat you as a monster in the natural route unless you really went too far, and that is noticed by the dialogue from sans in the judgement hall which changes based on your LOVE, same with the dialogues you get after finishing the route

i know this comment is 3 years old but whatever, the point isnt to say "violence bad, pacifist good!" in undertale you can canonicly save and load, its saying that if you have this power, why not use it for good, to quote undyne "you didn't kill them cause you had to, you killed them cause it was easy for you"

Fangirls: Gotta suck some more non-existant skeleton dick!

@@robocatssj3theofficial *NO!*

@@tinle9 Yes ;)

Where's my gun billy?

Ernie is about to commit a hate crime

Toby Flendersons Broadway Production of Monsters Inc. is actually my wallpaper.

Toby Flendersons Starfox McLoud "Radiation" Brodway Production of Monsters Inc. Featuring John Wick from Fortnite and the Federal Boreau of Investigation is the best game of all time and of all the universes

Manstervs oink

HIYAAA

*Toby MacGuire*

:)

What? I'm confused, can someone enlighten me? (I don't know what this is about)

@@jesseperrella4022 yandere dev

@@smhgamersgamers7813 oh I get it now... truthfully I'm alittle disappointed in myself for not realising what he was taking about tbh (I had already seen abunch of videos about yandere dev)

Jesse Perrella What exactly did they do?

Let's find more examples. I'll start. Animal Crossing

@@gameygames135 My Hero Academia(?) (the anime is pretty questionable on some aspects but not that bad, also anime is weird anyway. The community on other hand...)

@@gameygames135 Eddsworld Cuphead Rick and Morty Jojo's Bizarre Adventure Adventure Time Hazbin Hotel Need I say more?

@@blakekeating6495 basically every video of People Ruin Everything is an example

@@blakekeating6495 jojo and cuphead have bad fandoms? I've never heard about them tho...

The under her tail webcomic is actually pretty good tho

The AUs exist so that everyone gets their own Sans to mentally date and make fan art of

Its a damn cult at this point

I call them a different thing entirely from the UnderTale community. Really I don't like most AU's because they were not to inspire the mind, but to just make an "OC". I am easily annoyed by those who always have to be stronger or more powerful than everything else. What I look for is creativity, see how far they can go while keeping the true spirit of the tree it came from.

i HATE them

Lmao sa m e

0:57

Lmao

Literally, agreed.

A g r e e d . Honestly, Sans fangirls would pick a fight and not even use logic in their arguement if they were to see only a bit of him saying UnderTale has downsides.

A Disappointed Lucario Ahhh yes, Scott Vs. The Fandom. Hold ur ground m8

@@The-Omega-Artist 72million Sans Fangirls: AAAAAAÀAAAAAAAA OMG SANS IS SSOOOOOOO AWESOME!!!! Me: ok. I... I don't care Sans Fangirls: *I'LL SEND YOU TO HELL YOU FUCKING PIECE OF CRAP! I'LL BEAT YOU OVER THE HEAD WITH MY FOLDER OF 1,906 SANS PICTURES!* ..... wut

Tbh being in the fandom I dont think anyone can say undertale is flawless unless they have literally only played undertale and nothing else so they cant compare it to anything else... then again Im in a section where you have to be over 13 and its moderated to get rid o the shitty people so maybe its just that judging a fandom based on young youtube commenters and tumblr is not a good thing.

It’s not, though. The game’s feel and sense of humor were partially inspired by Earthbound. Toby Fox himself has expressed this. You don’t have to make every comparison between UT and EB a Sans is Ness reference.

@@jacobloewen7393 good joke

I mean he put in the Steven After Not Surviving thing so...

@@jacobloewen7393 _GOOD JOB, YOU HAVE NO SENSE OF HUMOR_

True

Forgives monsters? Their punishment is literally being locked underground for what they did

Your able to reset and reload to your hearts content, it’s your responsibility to do the right thing if your unable to die

Monsters only killed because they wanted to escape the prison they were wrongfully trap in, and not all monsters actually try to kill you, like Toriel that gives you the option to not fight and go back into the house and live peacfully, and Papyrus that simply tries to capture you and actually just captures you when you're 1 HP. He even offers to give you a hug of acceptence despite the horrible things you've done.

@@skmistress They didn't need to kill anyone as Toriel says. After Chara died one boss monster could walk through the barrier and gather 6 more souls from already dead humans. Papyrus is following orders to hand you over alive so of course he doesn't kill you but he knows you're going to die because of his actions. Toriel is the only monster who isn't trying to kill you or get you killed that you fight.

yes

*_AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHhh_*

QUITE

sans doctor run

Sr pelo jajajajajajaj

KOoL

flamesatgames!!!! i loved disbelief so much!

Me too. I wish I could play the demo but no gaming computer

Me too, i love so much disBEEF

B E E F

Don't remind me of that thing that has the audacity to be called a theory...

Sans=Ness intensifies

Or: VRISKA IS TOTALLY SANS

Sans San Sa S St Ste Stev Steve Steven Checkm8 atheists

Okey Okey Okey Okey Okey Okey Okey Okey Okey Okey Okey Okey Okey Okey Okey Okey Okey Okey Okey Okey Okey Okey Okey Okey Okey Okey Okey Okey Okey Okey Okey Okey

While a lot of his complaints seem like they miss the point of Undertale, I kinda understand where he's coming from, and how to fix it, with a very simple change: make the graphics better. I know (and enjoy) that the graphics are more of a meta thing than an actual lack of talent. But while some things work really well in connecting the *player* to the story rather than a character that you play (the save/load stuff, certain characters remembering what you did), if the rest of it felt and looked more like a living world, I don't think he would be complaining as much about how the game wasn't acting like a game. Basically, if the entire game was around the same graphical quality of the Deltarune Dark World. This is mostly what I think would make HIM like the game better, and what a lot of people would enjoy the most. I still like the janky graphics and weird aesthetic just as much as I would have liked a more fleshed out 16-bit graphical world.

A lot of the critiques are actually applicable for most of the turn based RPGs.

thank you so late lol

@@allenholloway5109 That has nothing to do with anything. The problem you psychopats seem to ignore is that if you kill a single monster in Undertale, it was in self defense considering pretty much all monsters attack you if you do nothing against them

things are fine when there's nobody left to remember the murders though =)

Ever read the graveyard book? The protagonist is an orphan boy who is, in fact, named Nobody, poor kid...

Fuma Haru --- "Nobody has to die"... 10/10 game of the century, better than Fallout 2.

This comment predicted 2020 humor

Oh fuck cringe gacha

@@iammadeoutofstarstuff957 Why is everyone suddenly commenting about my pfp? (Not in this reply chain, obviously, just randomly getting replies about it)

Or police officer!

I think undertale's characters are a great aspect of the game to and I personally like the gameplay (but I do wish I didn't have to wait 5 minutes to get a enemy encounter to kill them)

Lythero Streams Can someone please explain it to me?

Jackson Powell hidden boss, fan made it or something.

just search Undertale "So Sorry", but be carefull, you might not like what you'll find.

Worse, it's actually a Kickstarter contributer's fursona.

you know, ScottFalco could of LEFT it hidden for a reason. even the furry in question was more than a little uncomfortable with being in the game. but nope. they had to grab the gasoline, the lighter, and start the flame war all over again. the furry in question even refuses to draw what you think they would of the characters... meanwhile the rest of the furrier side of the fandom is like "LETS MAKE SANS FAT! fuck it, let's make EVERYONE FESTISHY!" and meanwhile the person behind "So Sorry" gets sacked with all the blame because he paid for a joke patreon reward referencing a homestuck joke patreon reward.

SANEESS DANS

okay no, we can't call what he was showing us art. we call that trash and we put it with the rest of the garbage.

Am Zee In the bad bin?

@@amzee1463 what are you talking about? The family guy undertale crossover picture was majestic.

NoobiousGoobious Yesh.

Tyler Nathaniel Yeah Same

Yeah Because hey A game isnt without fla---- *goes quiet* *SLASH* Just a fanboy

They do exist! Non toxic fans!

@@Garfewloid didnt know it was possible

I read it as undertale femboy and understood this in a COMPLETELY different way

SANESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

well yeah, it's a work of art

It brought happiness didnt it

Idk bout you but me and my friends still meme "SANSSSSSSSS DANCEEEEEEEEE" to this day

*Spanish screems*

Shows a picture from the fandom*

Chaos

Sans The Skeleton Fuck you

No u

Jevil be like

Loopy machoopin true

I bet Logan Paul is the only one that could get away with this. And if not he would get rich either way. Sorry for pulling out the "Paul" card

counter point: war. are you really shunned by society because you were a soldier? no. it all depends on context. battles are people taking up arms to defend something (often ideals). neither participant is right, but neither participant is wrong, either.

Yes but what's "realistic" and whats good game design do not tend to have much overlap

@@cullenlatham2366 the problem there is war crimes. If a soldier kills a civilian then they're shunned for what they did.

Who's the artist? Which to say, not to send them hate at all.

Rise if you would, for that is our curse

I have seen it's bad side yet the good side has and will always sparked me, I've been in this "fandom" for 2 years already, my perseverance for this good crap is still alive my dude- and I've seen worse regarding i'ts fandom smh

Yep

True

There's no good side to spark.

Same

wow.. so that's why everyone hate famdom... I didn't even know about that part... I mean.. I know there is some 18+ content with this game... but that's not famdom. it's something called *you know what that is*.

Opposite of FaZe no, generally with Sonic they do talk about the game. It’s just weather or not they can back up the statement with something that isn’t “3D Sonic suck.”

To be entirely fair to those "3D sonic suck", a majority of the time those are the games that become so glitchy to the point where they're unplayable. Shadow the Hedgehog, Sonic '06, Sonic Heroes, Sonic Adventures being PRIME examples of games where progression can be entirely halted by bugs. I'm someone who can enjoy a sonic game, but I genuinely do not believe they're good games.

Neku actually, I’ve come across people say Unleashed and Colours are bad but praise Heroes AND Shadow...

That's just a matter of opinion tbf, all games have flaws, and some flaws bother people more than others. atleast that's how I see it :P

Sonic is pretty bad from a gameplay perspective too lol. I don’t just mean 06 either. I never liked the first game. It’s a game that is about going fast but actively discourages it when you’re going through a level. I don’t mean obstacles either, there’s points where you need to slow down and you don’t want to. Sonic Mania might be good, but I haven’t played it, but generally sonic is p shit from the games to the fan base. They’re pretty even in just how terrible they are, notably the recent games vs the fandom.

Make a sequel

And he got that by making a game in a basement of his friend that has a tendency to kill every single character twice.

It's what he deserves

Ben Briggs I think it’s well deserved though. My pfp being homestuck kinda shows I’m biased though

too true.

@Leo Ik this is supposed to be a joke but... *They have a reason why they attack you.* _I'm really sorry_

Are you sure?

Ikr my brain literally is the temmie glitch hop remix

_Enemy Approching and Hopes and Dreams play in your head for no reason_

The huge reason for that was that Toby Fox is a composer by trade who just happened to make a video game lol

I forgot how fucking good Hopes and Dreams were.

@@zedbags My heart took 20 damage from Hopes and Dreams.

0:00

Yaaaaasssssss

@@_pulstar Exactly!

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK MEGALOVANIA IS BETTER THAN HOPES AND DREAMS

Finale is the best song in the game.

Robert Blanchard I agree. Personally I liked the Undyne becoming Queen ending. I always felt Asgore while not wanting to harm others, he still did his best for the happiness of his kingdom. Characters with responsibility they feel they must upheld are always my favorites. Which is why I felt conflicted about Toriel. On one hand I pitied her for her loss, but also kinda disliked her. She’s always made it seem like Asgore is a terrible person for doing what he did in the game, but Toriel ran away from all of what he was doing. I love the conflict between them, but I felt her and the fanbase were being way to harsh and hypocritical towards Asgore. Seeing their interaction in the pacifist run didn’t sit well with me. Having almost all monsterkind behind Undyne tell her to shove it was both a wonderful yet sad moment. I don’t hate Toriel, but I find her ideals in the monster’s society unwanted. Especially considering in some endings Toriel takes over after everything is over and imposes her ideals on everyone. A human came in and left. The souls were all gone as well. All the hope Asgore built up was crumbled. And Toriel came in like “It’s okay this is our home, we can do this as a family.” Monsterkind would not appreciate that, especially in the Queen Undyne ending. Would’ve loved to see some kind of revolt in the end. The society itself interested me more than most of the characters.

@@SocraticMayhem Yeah, I feel like Asgore gets too much flak too. I mean, we can't say with any certainty at all that the other humans were peaceful. If they had killed monsters, as implied by the empty gun and the dusty tutu, why wouldn't monsterkind, the royal guard, and the king retaliate? Toriel means well, but she's hardly realistic when it comes to what's good for the monster kingdom. But that's another reason I like Undertale, the perspectives regarding each character. Is Toriel a reasonable goat-mom or is she too trusting for her own good? Is it good for the lovable Papyrus to follow his human-capturing dreams? Is Undyne a murderer for "beating up" humans, or was she just fulfilling her duty? [Alphys spoilers]? And is Asgore a misguided king with a thirst for revenge or just a pragmatic leader trying to do his best to keep order? [Also other character spoiler] The varying endings and interactions all give insight into different aspects of these characters. What they would do with power, what they would do with _others_ in power, what they would do without Asgore in power, what they would do in the aftermath of Frisk's journey, etc.

I can agree, but it's mostly said that the pacifist run is the "good" ending and that's what you should get. Even the game itself advises this to you from Sans himself saying "you're gonna have a bad time". Gonna be honest though, this is a game that I personally think treats the ending routes like undercooked steak with a shit load of spice. It does nothing to make certain paths enjoyable and forces a lot of morality ideas onto you without it feeling natural. Let the response of the character speak for itself and stop trying to add meta ideas into the plot. It could be considered profound, but it could also be considered pompous.

@@benlink202forever But why should getting any one ending be the end-all-be-all? No game has any replay value if you just have the mindset of "Okay, got the best ending. I'm done now." If you force yourself to go down any given route, of course it feels forced. Choosing to experiment on your own is where that freedom of choice kicks in. This could be anything from trying the different boss combinations of living and dead to just killing Jerry and seeing what happens. Sometimes the "best" option isn't always the one you'll enjoy the most, so why not just have fun with the game?

Robert Blanchard I don't know, beats me. But I don't like certain aspects of the game that's for sure. Not saying its a horrible game, that would be completely devaluing the enjoyment I did have with it. Which is why I agree with you. I guess I did sound harsh when I wrote out that comment though... so....

trash can *never have I ever seen a more accurate representation...*

BadCan

No. He is cringy as fuck

The thing is... He was a fat fetishist yes, but he very much put that aside when designing the character. In this case, yes people should actually separate the creator from the creation

I mean, if you are going to ask someone famous to make YOUR OC REAL, you should expect some backlash. Also, both secret enemies are.... well secret. Hell, the oc even had a timeslot so you knew when to find him.

He also donated like 1000 dollars or something ridiculous. But yeah, the actual requirements to encounter the character are so specific and tedious, that you HAVE to search it out.

That's the thing. We need to realize that Samael's a human being just like any of us (despite maybe identifying with his Fursona) that genuinely meant no harm with his character. Could he have been more creative outside of a self-insert? Sure! But does that justify the harassment and depression he had to go through? Not at all. I highly recommend reading his blog posts regarding the backlash. It really puts into perspective how terrible people can treat you when they find out about your quirks. You can think he's weird or cringy, but I really don't agree with the comments attacking who he is as a person.

ok

XD sports true

MacroManiaPlays w

Sans: Heya I was just asking where is the nearest fire so I can destroy this demonic thing?

Veemo

King Bash but it belongs there

When translated to English, this comment says “I am 8 years old”

Good cause it b longs there

I mean, the game is alright, but- hold on a moment *pulls knife out of my chest* the players are mostly annoying 8 year olds, and unlike undertale, you have to deal with the annoying fanbase.

King Bash I don’t think the game is shit, I think the 4 year olds that play it are shit

Agree, I keep my distance from the bad side of the fandom- *cough* sans (and now Lancer) fangirls *cough* but I’m more in the neutral spectrum (I read and write fanfics for crying out loud, of course I’m not part of the good side) but the main thing is- Undertale’s fanbase taught me to respect opinions. Unless they disrespect mine- then I can go ham at them with their opinion-

I know right people always look on the fandom

I personally dislike Undertale, but I'm a huge fan of Deltarune (Also Ralsei is best boi.)

Yeah... the fandom's fine as long as you don't become an Undertale cringe god who secretly loves the cringe + porn. Soooo as long as you don't 'learn' anything from the dirty stuff there's nothing to worry about.

@@LesbiansMarie what have they done to Lancer?

Sorry for the bad writing plz don't hate meh ;w;

I still don’t understand why people think undertale is god

@@FA-yi1vt god or good? I'm sure no one thinks undertale is god. And people think it's good because its a opinion. Its Subjective. If you think it's bad the that's also Subjective.

Probably because it has an awesome story and has a "plays with the mind" sort of feel

I hear a lot of people that praise the game like a religion. I think it’s alright but the music is great

Please come home Dad

No, you're a mistake

@@DadYT Did the old going out for a pack a cigarette routine eh? Classic.

Wasn't it Toby Fox? XD

@@toni3968 Whoosh

Needs more likes.

Toby Starfox

Tobyllll

(and temmie)

And tem

*SPACETIME*

Delete your account or change your name.

@@giovanni3362 chew ass and kick gum

More bad times coming

I was just about to say that heh that s#@t is hilarious!

Then he spoils what the flower does

Flowey: *I have a gun now*

You mean we ting.

Well the fan base of undertale is pretty fucking toxic I’m sure most of the vid is the fan base but I’m exited to hear what he thinks about the game

The toxicity about the game isnt that bad when I see reviews of the game theres rarely much dislikes even when negative points are brought up

I don't Know man, theres some toxic people in the undertale fandom and a shit ton of cringe.

I can only imagine how the fan base will react

*WUH OH A DIFFERENT OPINION PART 2: THIS TIME, IT''S AN **_INCREDIBLY_** DIFFERENT OPINION!*

Saaaaaame

*AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA*

A portion of the fanbase

H E N L O . How is day? (Yes, that is how I would act if I met So Sorry)

Well, roughly

@@Leekodot15 Thanks for clarifying!

Seriously?

@@vilotdarkmanner6801 At the beginning of the video, when everyone shows up to talk about Undertale. There's a guy by some text that tells the story.

@@chisecrecy4974 is it true though, or is it melodrama

@@ldragondeity I genuinely think it's real.

@@chisecrecy4974 perhaps, I don't care enough to check myself

FireFlashDrive mate I was thinking the exact same thing when he mentioned good things that came out of the community.

No, it's Matt Patrick

What

Holy shit I didnt see that

Nope. The "Steven Universe is Sans" theory is mostly a joke created by Redditors (I believe, don't quote me on that) to make fun of MatPat's "Sans is Ness" theory (in which he states multiple times he knows it's silly and a stretch, but wanted an excuse to talk about Earthbound and its connections to Undertale because they're two of his favorite things).

Yes

Black Ice EDM yep

Oh my god yeah it is

OH IT IS

Omg 🤣

And in the second time you get through she gets thrown into it you see fortnite

It's a game where I have to remind myself not the ENTIRE fanbase is bad Because ALMOST all of it IS

the community has gotten better at least

People who complain about the fan-base being bad and not the game are just as annoying as any other cringe content the fan-base provides.

@Joe Bertrand wut cuphead isn't bad besides the rule 34 shit and fornite are just a bunch of toxic dumbass children FNAF isn't bad anymore and i think it's dead.... Rick and morty don't know about them Minecraft is not as bad anymore too the fandom is now i guess you can say "normal" Overwatch i think that fanbase is dead by now or if not gone quiet

@@NyanAnomaly don't worry my dood it's the fanbase that sucks not the game itself 😊

*preps Mercy button*

How do u accidentally kill her? 🤔

The game knows everything and will remember. Even if you played genocide and try pacifist again the end screen shows a frisk lying in bed waking up as chara with a very creepy evil laughter as soon as Tories has brought you the cake and closes the door

@Hayden H What happened then? Did the game actually let you do it or were you out of the pacifist route for good? Because I agree with Scott that learning from your mistakes should be a viable solution in the game. I don't think it's NECESSARY (the game wants to talk about themes of pacifism, not redemption, and not every game has to touch every subject ever), but it'd be an improvement. And if going back, ergo, sacrificing your game progress, allows you to fix your mistake, then I feel it's a decent enough approach to the theme itself. It does allow you to regret and fix your crimes after all.

Make that 74