So attractive

Undertale characters forget they're adults talking to a child more often than a discord moderator. Like... starlo you tried to shoot a random child to death in the pacifist route for literally 0 reason whatsoever.

Whole underground attacks a child: its fine the human uses self defense once: you MONSTER!

I like Martlet reaction to Ceroba’s death, It’s kinda nice to actually see a character that takes the protagonist side for once to say “Hol up, it was self defense." Like Ceroba has been attempting to experiment on Clover this whole time. And, had Martlet been blasted when she’s in the air, she would’ve fell down from the tower, killing both her and Clover. If the fall didn’t kill them, they could’ve been crippled. I wished that the game allow the protagonist to resent some characters in the Pacifist route instead of making us sing around the campfire with everyone, or make those characters work more to redeem themselves. You know, accountability, rehabilitation and justice and what not. Though to be honest this is also an irk I have in the original Undertale where we have to "love" everyone even though they tried to murder Frisk.

I really like the implication that Asgore wasn't unbeatable when fighting Frisk because he didn't want to win and have to go through with his promise.

I just realized this is a really clever way to set up an encounter by undertale's rules where asgore wins-- Clover can only reach here by being level 1, so they don't have a raw stat advantage and like a usual first time level 1 player will probably die, and they have no pie from toriel to lower stats nor can they claim 100% innocence like frisk since they killed ceroba, so that stat down is off the table Asgore doesn't have to confront the reality of finally committing to the seventh soul and breaking the barrier so he's willing enough to pull out unblockable attacks. The deck is already heavily stacked against them, so flowey just doesn't even bother to wait it out and won't reload for them

consider this: Clover does not remember resets, they have also never killed a monster in this run, and Ceroba knocks out Martlet and Starlo prior to this fight, Clover does not know that monsters turn to dust upon death, so it's possible that the reason Clover gains no EXP was because they believed Ceroba killed Martlet and Starlo and thus killing her was "justified"

I think they didn't get EXP because what they did was just. And since that's what their soul stands for, it wasn't seen as them deliberately inflicting pain onto others.

After checking. I've found that during asgores onslaught, you're invincible until the second giant flamewave attack. Then, soon after the first unavoidable circle he'll do two more unavoidable circles. Then he'll sweep the right side of the screen, and then the left (You'll be to slow to move out of the way at this point, and youll die)

When you think about it, Asgore being a hopeless boss fight makes total sense. In Undertale, even holding back, he does five damage with each hit while you have twenty HP. Now, in Undertale you can talk to Asgore to weaken his fighting resolve and decrease his stats, but only if you’ve never killed a single monster; otherwise, you can’t bring yourself to contest Asgore taking a life to escape the underground when you’ve done the same. And the only way Clover can even get to Asgore is by killing Ceroba. Couple that with the physical and mental exhaustion that the battle against Ceroba took on them, they never had a chance. Poor Clover’s fate was sealed the second they stepped into the throne room, and they probably knew that.

I'd say the 0 EXP is a similar situation to how Asgore and Flowey both give 0 EXP in Undertale. EXP is a quantifier of how distanced you are with killing - how easy you find it to ignore the "why" and just end your opponent's life. In these three battles, the extenuating circumstances involved do not cause the killing party to be distanced from their actions; they have every reason and opportunity to do it - have been asked to do it - and still feel regret afterward.

Clover willingly deciding to not mention that ceroba literally wanted to die

Imagine there’s gonna be world record times of this, surviving asgore fight for 30 minutes straight, imagine that.

I am not defending Starlo or making excuses for the way he treats Clover like complete trash if they kill Ceroba as that was still very much unjustified, but at the same time I can kinda see why he'd be so angry. Ceroba is someone he's been close friends with ever since they were kids. They grew up together and were a big part of each other's lives, to the point Starlo once upon a time had romantic feelings for her but never got to follow through on them. Also, up till now, Clover had managed to resolve almost every conflict peacefully, including the fight with Starlo where he was basically trying to do exactly what Ceroba was doing, and yet Clover let him live despite having every reason to gun him down. My guess is Starlo felt betrayed as he likely thought Clover would find a way to stop Ceroba non-lethally(granted, that shouldn't have been Clover's responsibility but I digress) and then they could all talk her down, like they did with him, but instead, Clover executed her. In his mind he's probably thinking "wait, so when I try to take your Soul for my own selfish purposes, I get to live? But when Ceroba wants your Soul just so she can save her daughter that means she deserves death? What made her so undeserving of mercy?! You realize on the off chance Kanako is still alive, you just deprived her of her mother?!" Granted, Starlo is clearly letting emotions cloud his judgement in this moment, which makes sense as he wasn't awake to see just how insane Ceroba was really acting plus he's just lost one of his dearest friends to somebody he thought he could trust. (and whom he's known for not even a fraction of the time he's known Ceroba) I highly doubt many of us would be thinking straight in such a situation, but he's still a man capable of owning up to when he's wrong so I'd like to think once he's had a chance to clear his mind and vent all his emotions he would realize the way he treated Clover was downright cruel...it's just too bad he won't get that chance to apologize.

If I could reply to Starlo asking where she was, I would say, "She asked me to do it, so I did."

So basically Clover felt too guilty to fight back? Actually, I think it would've been cool if Asgore just went all out and broke the mercy _and_ fight buttons. Would explain how every other human died despite having the ability to save and reload.

At first when I was fighting with her, I said "maybe I'll forgive her, just maybe" but when I saw that she used her daughter as an experiment, in addition to the fact that at that very moment she was trying to kill Clover for her convenience, I started to analyze the situation and I realized that true justice was to kill her.

She asked for it. Quite literally. Starlo wanted a better end for her, and now he's a broken man. Martlet stood up for Clover, knowing they were in the right, yet now she knows her only remaining true friend is dead. And Clover now bears the weight of killing a once loving and compassionate mother who lost it all, falling into a state of depression. It's a no-win situation for anyone.

People keep telling me that Star's reaction didn't make sense and he's being unreasonable, but considering they were longtime friends + apparently he had a _crush_ on her + she JUST died, I think it makes sense for him to..not handle it very well. Also who's to say Starlo won't regret saying that to Clover?

Wow, I had no idea they made a whole ending for this. The "I'm sorry" is a very nice callback to the timeline where you kill Starlo on Neutral, where unlike Starlo, Ceroba completely fails to understand what you've done if you say "I'm sorry" and goes looking for him. And "You should go" is a freaking powerfully tragic line, and geez, poor Martlet just looking back at Clover. I can't believe they managed to make this even rougher than the "super" pacifist ending. Still headcanoning that the kids get revived after true pacifist in Undertale. *inhales copium*

I think this ending is the closest of true ending (undertale lore accurate one). Clover's ideals are justice, not kindness. That's why they didn't get exp from killing ceroba (she wanted it, they didn't want to inflict pain to ceroba), so it's simply justice. Not killing ceroba would be more of a kindness thing. What I mean is that justice isn't forcefully related to pacifism. They aren't the same thing and in some case death is the best option (in ceroba's one for example). + Asgore having to kill another child sounds more undertale like. A child giving off their soul themself would mentionned in undertale if it wasn't the case. Very nice ending and respect of the source material. Love this game.

14:46 "Rest well, young one" asgore how tf is clover supposed to rest well stuck and bored inside of that cramped jar for eternity? And even then your plan is to absorb them all forcing them to be in your body basically forever as you destroy humanity, fuck you mean you daft old king?

interesting how it branches into a completely different ending

It's kind of eerie that asgore invented the handbook as a way to make his guards kill the fallen humans so he doesn't have to. I wonder if he still gains LV when it happens though.

As much as the true pacifist is the best ending, clover was still in the right here, imagine being a child here fighting this woman who was trying to kill you (and almost killed your friends) with all her power, it was simply self defense, + clover has spared everyone along the path so it mustve been for good reason.

This ending oddly works, because Clover is most likely exhausted from the Ceroba fight so he willingly lets himself lose and get captured, or im just looking too deep. Asgore is even still accurate to how he is with the whole "Dont want to do this but have to do this" thing.

So what I got from the endings is: Neutral: Just a very neutral ending. Nothing is accomplished, you just go back to the beggining and in the end nothing matters. Genocide Ending: The Bad Ending for the Underground, but The Good Ending for Clover. Their mission was partially completed upon freeing the human SOULs from their cages and set into the surface, at the cost of hundreds of lives from the Underground. The Pacifist Ending A (Spared Ceroba): Both pacifists endings are canon since Clover's SOUL is collected in both, so I'm not calling either (but neither) the True Ending. This one is specially awful, because Clover shows that he was truly a pure soul who sacrificed themselves upon seeing the situation of the Underground. The Pacifist Ending B (Killed Ceroba): Killing Ceroba makes for an even sadder ending: You don't get to choose your death, you have to face the SOULs of every human that you were searching for and you have to abandon Starlo and Martlet. By far the worst ending.

I know the canon of Undertale says every human died to Asgore, but a part of me can't help but wish there was a way to win the fight with him instead

I like this ending the best, it fits most with Undertale as a true prequel, the true ending is great for the story this game wants to tell and the genocide/failed pacifist are great in funneling player down the correct route but THIS is as close to what would be considered canon to Undertale as possible. Happy they included this even if most people won't see it

This ending makes alittle more sense, bcuz Asgore actually kills you and puts your soul into the jar thing, meanwhile in the true pacifist ceroba just convieniently has that jar on her and clover is just like: oh you want my soul? Here you go! *fucking dies*

That explains why Flowey says no matter how hard he tried he just couldn't get the souls, because Asgore literally had undodgeable attacks and Flowey kept dying

Sans tells us that EXP is gained when inflicting pain onto others. Ceroba was relieved of pain.

"To the law, maybe you are justified in what you've done, But to me, you're lower than dirt" That goes hard

So... Considering there are technically two Pacifist endings Would we call this one the False Pacifist route since you need to go pacifist all the way until you kill Ceroba at the very end, and the sparing Ceroba route the True Pacifist route since you actually go through with a full pacifist run?

So that's how you fight Asgore without initiating the Genocide Route. I always wondered where "Final Encounter" played. AKA the variant of "ASGORE" found in the OST.

Honestly, as cool as this ending is, the way I'd prefer for it to end is with Star killing Clover and taking the soul to Asgore. Star's fatal flaw in genocide is shown to be his inability to make a stand when it really counts, and I think it would be cool to see him overcome that in avenging his friend. Imagine Star drawing and shooting before there's even a chance to enter a battle, with Clover just dead on the spot for what they did. Proper western-duel style.

Okay this is what I expected to be the true ending tbh. 😂

After playing the game multiple times, I can say that the only truly innocent and mature person in this game is Martlet (and Toriel maybe but she barely appeared), glad she picked our side.

There's something really sad about Asgore's last words before the battle is initiated. Just him saying "I will make this quick. No need to worry." - where he doesn't want to do this, and doesn't want the human to suffer no matter the circumstances that put them underground in the first place.

The king doesn’t even give you a chance to fight back.

I love how different this ending is to the regular True Pacifist ending

Seeing Starlo an Ceroba as such close companions... gosh this scene hurts when you have to pull the trigger. I couldn't do it. She didn't deserve this.

"What did she do to deserve this" Bro, she tried to kill a child and she nearly killed Martlet too did you see how close to falling off that tower she was? Like, I didn't want to kill her (hence why I'm watching this instead of playing it) but she didn't *not* deserve it. Plus she literally asked for it and, even if she didn't, for all he knows Clover killed her in self defense.

As cool of an ending as this is, I think it's silly that some people quickly jump to it being the canon ending. With the hat ending up in the trash dump at the end kf true pacifist (and likely being found by Bratty/Catty, hence why they sell it in UT) Yes, killing Ceroba could be seen as justice, but justice is also defined by the individual, their moral code. While Clover didn't have the determination to end the cycle of humans falling down and break the barrier peacefully His sense of JUSTICE caused him to sacrifice himself for the greater good of monsterkind At least, thats how I interpreted the true pacifist ending

I feel like this ending is the most undertale accurate one

I think Ceroba doesnt give Exp because it wasnt considered Violence on Clover's part, she wanted to be dead so Clover granted her wish plus he didnt want to fight either

To me, this is the canon ending. Clover is the Justice soul, and given the prior context, what happens right before the Ceroba fight and what Martlet says afterward, Clover killing Ceroba is just, even if it resulted in someone else dying. Also Asgore killing the 6 previous humans just fits better in the lore of actual Undertale, mostly because of how much he delays the fight and how shocked he is when you initially down him.

Maybe i am heartless, but i really wished for Ceroba to die while i was fighting her, she was so unfair! The only thing stopping me was a true pacifist ending..

I just wonder how long someone could survive Asgore's endless attacks, would be a nice challenge to see how far you can get

i love how everybody is talking about how clover doesn't fight back but nobody is talking about the fact that you can't even see asgore during this, wonder why that is

I just realise something. Asgore no win encounter happens without his sprite in fight. He did not use his trident attack or "Mercy breaker" once at all. That make me remember... In Undertale Player can enter battle without sprites. It happen two times. First, at bridges in Waterfall there Undyne use her spears to kill Frisk. Second at Hotland/CORE with lazers. Also fun fact. In this battle we do not fight any monster. They simply not present or out of reach. Get it? Asgore wasn't present at this battle. *He did not want to been seen*. I interpret it as such: then Asgore saw Clover reaction at Soul's, and their "tense" look he gets guilty and ashamed, as been accused upon his crimes (which is true). So, he simply decide to not fight them in face to face since he might have no moral strength left to kill Clover and take their soul. That *heartbreaking*

Only now learned that this ending exited and DAMN, might be my favorite now. Both because I kinda hated how clover just sacrificed themselves, and because we get more Martlet in this one, who's my fav character and also because I HATE CEROBA HAHAHAH DIE

Starlo: All I know is that I lost my best friend tonight and the wind- *discord ping sound*

I would’ve liked it if you got one chance at an Asgore fight and if you happened to win you’d get to fight the neutral route final boss and Flowey would just reset your very non canon actions. A lot of effort though for something almost no one is going to do so I get why they didn’t bother.

Starlo’s morals are so whack to me, so he says he can’t shoot you on genocide, but fights you just for breaking up his posse and not killing anybody? And here, he is all P-offed that you killed ceroba who he legit seemed to be extremely mad about her earlier, like she straight up wanted to kill clover for her own needs (chujin and kanako) AND nearly could’ve killed him and martlet! I swear, I would’ve been the one like “I shouldn’t have hesitated to shoot that last bullet” 💀

This is a time where I think: CLOVER, SPEAK FOR ONCE IN YOUR MISERABLE LIFE

Killing Ceroba is so based, this ending is so much better

for some reason this seems more canon than true pacifist

Starlo's final line hits similar to Alphys's in the Alphys ending. While it might not have the same background regarding it, it really goes to show.. Some might find your actions heroic or just, but for others, you just shot a wound that won't heal

I think the reason why we don't get a turn is because clover accepted their fate and didn't want to fight back.

I wasn’t expecting asgore to actually give a battle! But small question, is the results the same if you no hit it?

It looks like Clover could kill Asgore because he pointed at him his gun,but then felt that the rifht thing to do for the justice is giving his soul this is the most similar finale to undertale lore in my opinion,i find that he killing Ceroba was a good part because she asked for it + it was selfdefence + Clover still had to use that gun to bring justice even if he felt guilty,Starlo's reaction to Ceroba's death is acceptable but in my opinion he should have understood that it wasn't all Clover's fault

6:21 The ping that echoes so softly fills you with Determination.

for everyone wondering why cereba doesn't give any exp, quote from the wiki "What's EXP? It's an acronym. It stands for "execution points." A way of quantifying the pain you have inflicted on others." Ceroba wants to die, she sees herself as a failure and death as a relief and that means you don't inflict any pain onto her and thus she gives no exp

The pacifisn't ending. (made that name up, hope it catches on now)

Now THIS looks like the true ending

I really like how in comparison to killing Asgore in UT where he clearly has done even more horrible things and you're between the spade and the wall here you're told to your face by one of the kindest faces in the wild east and someone who had so much hope in you to outright hate you for acting as judge for someone who was a hurting and even if she did terrible things too could've been more easily talked out (And also said horrible things did stem out of Asgore's decisions) and so you end up like any other human, just another one to be unceremoniously put in jar, no fanfare like in the pacifist ending. I see other's point out this feels like the most cannon-ish ending but I recall Undine says no human has made it to Asgore.

EVERYONES BEEN TRYING TO KILL CLOVER AND WHEN HE FINALLY DEFENDS HIMSELF HES IN THE WRONG HE GOT BETRAYED BY THE WHOLE WILD WEST GANG EVERYONE HAS TRIED TO KILL HIM MAYBE GET GOT TIRED OF EVERYONE BEATING ON HIM💀

Looking at it. I feel like this might be the “canon” ending. It has the best explanation on what happened to everyone. Ceroba is dead, and starlo/ martlet likely went into self inflicted hiding or solitude.

6:22 Seroba message from heaven

It might be a bit tone deaf, but it'd be really cool if they added a secret secret ending where you can actually beat asgore, something like the post credits scene of the pacifist ending where you no hit it. Still the game was great even without that.

I love the detail of Clover getting shaken by seeing the five souls. One might imply it's sheer terror, but for me, that were the five children she was searching for when she arrived. It also happens with Genocide Axis, when he told as he was forced to kill one of them. The LOVE, Level of Violence, increased considerably, even when the fight didn't finish. That is because LOVE it's how prone you become to stay aloof from people and your easiness to kill them. So that's why it turns so tense all of a sudden.

Since LOVE or LV is stood for Level Of ViolencE so killing cobera isn't violence unlike in genocide Kinda interesting fact

Would be fitting if the credits started to roll on the right side of the screen during this segment 13:45 since we already know how this ends.

I mean the kill wasn't bloodthirst and you only gave her what she asked for. Gaining execution points doesn't seem correct, i think that's why she gives no exp.

It's crazy you get so much different content for just one different decision in the end!

Honestly i prefer the ending where Clover gave up his soul willingly…i mean yeah its sad but its a more bittersweet ending…and it makes more sense…

The more I dig through Undertale Yellow, the more I find it's actually overall better than the original Undertale (with one artistic pitfall it fell into). Story-wise, Yellow only has a small bump in how Cero acts sometimes being a little TOO suspicious, but overall it's a more cohesive story, more honest with it's intentions, and more reasonably handles choices and consequences both from the player's PoV and that of those around them. To be fair I had the same complaint about Sans as Cero, but not only failing to pay that suspicion off properly, but actively taunting players with it further, is far worse. As a game, Yellow better structures itself around the mechanics that Undertale used, even if it has to do some mild handholding to make it mesh with the story. Yellow's bullet patterns overall feel more... Fair? Turning battles into puzzles is always cool, otherwise there's not a lot to talk about here. Art is where we hit a speed bump, specifically the scale of overworld sprites, a problem that only finally clicked seeing Mart next to Asgore. 16-bit RPGs (like Earthbound/Mother 2, which heavily inspired Undertale) used the difference between the size of overworld sprites to give a sense of scale or narrative intimidation factor, and the difference between overworld and battle sprites also create a visual mystery box wondering what they "really look like" until you see them on the fight screen. The main group may be boss monsters, but they're not 'final boss' monsters, not that you could tell at a glance by their large, stylistically clashing 32-bit era sprites a 16-bit game would've had to layer multiple sprites together to make. They also visually clash with the scale of the world around them, I can't imagine the OCs (except maybe Starlo) would be able to spread their arms in OG Undertale's spaces without smacking their knuckles on the walls, or crossing Undertake's many rope bridges without potentially falling. It's way too late to fix it for Yellow, but maybe the next Undertale prequel can learn from the mistake?

This also made me realize that the previous human's armor you can find is just because they were changing their gear

7:31 For why Ceroba does it, think about what LOVE and EXP mean. The more you kill, the less it hurts. Clover is not killing Ceroba for the sake of taking a life in this case, Clover's killing Ceroba as he's giving her what she wants (Ceroba even says thank you before Clover pulls the trigger), and Clover most likely regrets the fact he did so.

i made a blind playtrough and i got this ending, tbh ceroba's backsotry had me asleep and she was crazy at that point.

surprised no one said this is reimu but if Undertale made her

Even though exp is an acronym of "Execution points" its possible that clover doesnt earn any simply because he was fulfilling a request coming from the deepest desire of Ceroba,but this is just a theory,a game theory!

Random thing, but I love how the story sticks to Clover prioritizing justice over everything. They draw their weapon on Asgore when he shows them that he killed five humans (they literally tremble with rage!), they don’t seem to regret killing Ceroba to the point of being very distressed (although they do express SOME regret), and in the genocide route, their LV literally grows higher out of sheer will when Axis tells them he was programmed to kill a human. I love that they have so much character, honestly; I love them more than any of Undertale/Deltarune’s protagonists.

I think we should call this ending the "Justice" ending

this is so much cooler than pacifist bro

If we had games like this for all of the other souls, it would so amazing honestly

I like the fact that clover lose to asgore, i mean, in all undertale they put asgore like the most danger monster but frisk wins because them got the time power, so them only get back knowing how to dodge and there win. But clover and the rest depends in flowey and we all know that flowey plans is to asgore collect souls to then he stole them, that's why he is too good with us a diference to frisk who he probably know frisk got the Time power thing.

I AM PISSED THAT ASGORE IS LIKE "oh sorry that you have to die and all" BUT HE ISNT, YOU LITERALLY SEE HIS SLY SMILE OH I AM SO DOIN PACIFIST TILL ASGORE ... wait a second

both endings are good in their own right and both can be canonical enough given that on both sides, Clover understands and reinterprets the meaning of justice. They understood that letting monsters finally have a chance at being free was just.

The only thing remaining is kanako’s mask, showing that even during death, she is still clinging onto her past

i'd say the 0 EXP thing might be because of the fact EXP is EXECUTION points. you are executing ceroba, yes. however, you are also killing someone who straight up is ASKING to be killed, which we have only have flowey at the end of a nuetral route for, and yet again, the same option of spare or kill... both times you get no EXP when you kill the ones asking for death. might be an implication to something if toby for some odd reason decides that undertale yellow is canon

6:21 the fucking discord notification sound killed me

I feel like Asgore sprite should be more sad when talking about thos stuff

I like how a human SOUL is literally one of the most powerful things in the world and it’s contained in a glass jar spasgore probably bought for 3.99 g off of the internet.

YOURE TELLING ME HOPES AND DREAMS WERE AN OPTION IN THE FINAL PHASE??? THAT WOULDVE MADE IT SO MUCH EASIER

I honestly like the genocide ending more tbh it felt like more of justice for the children who died

Damn, Clover didn't even put up a fight

oww that hurtt even if I didn't do that- Strlo's dialoge hit hard damn

decided to search this cuz no way am i putting myself through that whole fight again lmao