Skip and Shannon react to the shocking finale of 'The Last Dance' | NBA

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In the finale of Michael Jordan's documentary 'The Last Dance,' it was revealed that Jerry Reinsdorf offered head coach Phil Jackson one more year to coach the Bulls despite Jerry Krause's wishes. Hear what Shannon Sharpe and Skip Bayless have to say about the last episodes.
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@UndisputedOnFS1 4 жыл бұрын

Who was most responsible for breaking up Michael Jordan's dynasty?

@CraigSmithII 4 жыл бұрын

The owner & Jerry Krause

@jaiveerd6682 4 жыл бұрын

Jerry Krause

@anthonyferguson5340 4 жыл бұрын

Yes he did for sure

@rodneypettis1720 4 жыл бұрын

It's was owner and gm fault!!!!

@riqgeez8776 4 жыл бұрын

Phil Jackson

@IDMtv 4 жыл бұрын

Skip : “ I introduced MJ’s parents to each other... I was there when they made him “

@justtry8552 4 жыл бұрын

Lol this is the best.

@QuinnClips247 4 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@celebritytarotreadings7065 4 жыл бұрын

I Know!

@martinumana8195 4 жыл бұрын

LMAO 😂🤣, “ it was like nothing I’ve never seen before and like nothing I’ve seen since”

@kaqueburlington4278 4 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂 one of the best comments ever

@chi7818 4 жыл бұрын

Plot twist, Skip is writing a documentary titled “I Was There” and he’s been slowly advertising low key this whole time. It’s the long con and we all fell for it.

@bwxnda 4 жыл бұрын

"I was there and saw it from the inside out"

@ebhs0089 4 жыл бұрын

Good one

@jaylenroyall5862 4 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@watri 4 жыл бұрын

MICHAEL JEFFERY JORDAN!!...🐐🏀

@terrondricktaylor7588 4 жыл бұрын

I'm glad I'm not the only one getting tired of hearing him say that

@lebroomstick1943 4 жыл бұрын

Uncle Shay Shay got more LeBron Jerseys than the Laker’s Equipment Manager.

@natezfrosty2039 4 жыл бұрын

he rides lebron

@Cloncurryboi88 4 жыл бұрын

😂

@HaHa-vy9ct 4 жыл бұрын

Well it's the Staples Center locker room

@judahmourneth3211 4 жыл бұрын

And it’s not like those jersey’s are hot. Plain and lame.

@brandonhall4547 4 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@JosiahMahendran 4 жыл бұрын

Jerry Krause said at the start of the season that Phil Jackson is done after the end of the season, so I understand why Phil Jackson rejected to come back to a team that didn’t want him at the start of the season 🙄🤦🏾‍♂️

@TubeWatcher 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, the yo-yo effect, Upper Management wore them out.

@ephanhymerable 3 жыл бұрын

Phil already had plans on leaving. He wasn't coming back regardless of what Jerry said or did

@JP-ks7ey 2 жыл бұрын

also it's not like he would be returning to a team that had MJ, pip, ker, rodman, etc. they were going to be trading everyone

@LightBrand 2 жыл бұрын

I'm with Skip that Phil is a snakey character that I get the same vibe in this Docu as Isiah Thomas. As much as I loathe this type of person I agree with Phil's decision to take a sabbatical. After a decade of this world wide phenomena if he's not burned out and exhausted after 6 championships, even if ignoring what disrespect the GM showed him. Not wanting to coach a rebuild team with just MJ staying and everyone else leaves assuming because the team can't afford them what others might be offering. If this is Phil's second year first ever championship okay he should stay. And it's unfair for MJ to speak for everyone that they'll be back for a 4th. I'm just assuming everyone's contract ending at 98 is a bit contrived. If people are still bound by contract and can't leave then you offer everything to get MJ Pip back and go again. Unfortunate Bulls have been rebuilding since.

@JP-ks7ey 2 жыл бұрын

@@LightBrand they should of never went throught the rebuild to begin with, which is one or the reasons he left

@lonewolfnwj 4 жыл бұрын

Skip "I was there to comfort Jordan when he got cut the high school basketball team" Bayless

@willellis502 4 жыл бұрын

Lmbooooooo

@vitorbastos123 4 жыл бұрын

Best comment I ever read in these Last Dance videos. Thats a new meme right there. Skip " I was the one who convinced him to try basketball instead of baseball in 1976" bayless

@edwardagwara7126 4 жыл бұрын

😆🤣😂

@mikanmini9966 4 жыл бұрын

Hahaha Day Made!!

@spidermonkey7605 4 жыл бұрын

Skip was the second shooter on the grassy knoll

@jamesdman7193 4 жыл бұрын

I watched this whole documentary, and I saw over dozens of bulls documentaries I have never seen a spec of skip Bayless LMAO 😂

@GatorGirl04 4 жыл бұрын

James Dman 😅😂🤣 right how does Drip not appear one second?? Has an article of his even been featured??

@calvinmiguel4405 4 жыл бұрын

Wait...was Skip there?

@CreftonCloyd 4 жыл бұрын

He was there!

@trevd2087 4 жыл бұрын

He was just behind the camera. You didnt know he shot all of the footage for the last dance?m

@chi7818 4 жыл бұрын

That’s the sign of a good reporter, he was there but in the shadows

@twokingz04 3 жыл бұрын

The damage was already done. U tell a man he can go 82-0 and still won't be the coach, don't expect a man to take you up on that offer when the season was over. Reinsdorf should have made that offer wayyyy earlier.

@BicMichuM 4 жыл бұрын

Skip was there too when Ray J and Kim made that video...he was there inside out 😅😅😅

@TheUndefeatedOfTheEast 4 жыл бұрын

Skip hit it first

@jordan12118 3 жыл бұрын

@@TheUndefeatedOfTheEast 😂😂😂😂

@bryant888 3 жыл бұрын

@@TheUndefeatedOfTheEast good one bruh 😭😭😭😂😂😂

@leetraviusmckay2919 4 жыл бұрын

Reinsdorf is a businessman, he cares about money, period. Championships were just an added bonus. He nickel and dimed himself to 6 rings

@svilleballa 4 жыл бұрын

Facts don’t matter is they win or lose he is winning regardless

@visionaireg8211 4 жыл бұрын

People and look at the Bulls now. They have been terrible since. Reinsdorf deserves most of the blame

@1TheFunnyPro1 4 жыл бұрын

svilleballa they havent been winning since 1998 LOL

@UnexpectedWonder 4 жыл бұрын

Truly!

@scutifr 4 жыл бұрын

Phil F whoa there 😂

@joeswar123 4 жыл бұрын

Skip was there when Adam and Eve walked into the garden of Eden

@youngskyler7568 4 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂

@excellingdeicide2967 4 жыл бұрын

🤔............... 😏🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

@stevesherrell9487 4 жыл бұрын

Skip cut my ambilical cord.

@jessieurena7583 4 жыл бұрын

You damn right

@starfireprincess 4 жыл бұрын

@@stevesherrell9487 so skip is yo daddy?

@janmichaeltorzar5033 4 жыл бұрын

“I was there” the line i keep hearing from Skip the last 5 weeks. And the last 5 weeks I was waiting for his appearance in the docu.

@davidbrown4540 4 жыл бұрын

Skip: "I ran molasses down from Canada with Hyman Roth"

@SidJustice1 4 жыл бұрын

David Brown, yooooo 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

@Mr.BondJamesBond 3 жыл бұрын

Great comment

@ThreeBZ 3 жыл бұрын

Someone saying Shannon has alot of LeBron jerseys has 600 likes and this has 18..that tells you everything you need to know about the world today lol

@galisuruba9492 3 жыл бұрын

Hyman Roth always makes money for his partners

@slijackson353 3 жыл бұрын

😭😭😭😭😭

@Mogpdgiff_ 4 жыл бұрын

if i hear skip say "i was there i covered the bulls last dance and saw it from the inside out, as i was a columnist for the Chicago tribune" as an intro to a debate again i will lose it

@getcrunk117 4 жыл бұрын

dont tune in tomorrow then lol

@michaelcaliste517 4 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@JSoulthereal 4 жыл бұрын

Go head and lose it

@markcampbell8158 4 жыл бұрын

Hey this is funny. It’s all the Lakers fault. As I Laker fan, I love it. We got five championships. That’s five more than Chicago, and Boston had during the time. Thanks Phil Jackson,

@ZandeKongo 4 жыл бұрын

"I Was There", the Story of Skip "Drip" Bayless, a man who was there. During the March on Washington? He was there. During the Moon Landing? He was there. Selma Bus Boycott? He was there. The Emancipation Proclamation? He was there.

@myab1471 4 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂

@qwertymanor 4 жыл бұрын

Tk Kirkland was there too

@MrEOM41 4 жыл бұрын

Gon be a Netflix Original 😁

@terencesykes9835 4 жыл бұрын

Bruh I was just about to type Skip “I was there” Bayless lmao!!!

@jaybz_insomniart 4 жыл бұрын

King Zande he’s a see-er not a do-er. For life.

@gunner0479 4 жыл бұрын

Shannon was spot on. Pippen wasn't gonna turn down his only opportunity at a big contract

@YahudimFromAncientOphir 4 жыл бұрын

Reinsdorf wouldve given pip or any other key pieces a shitload of money on an extended contract if thats what it takes to keep jordan home. Only if phil wouldve stayed.

@dr.dermixgirlmd7479 4 жыл бұрын

ACinematography1.0 - And we all know that was NEVER going to happen.

@Lootroq 2 жыл бұрын

@@YahudimFromAncientOphir Lmfao are serious? I guess that's why they kept Scottie so happy during his last 5 years there

@MrFeezydabeast 4 жыл бұрын

Its wild how Skip says MJ is the toughest minded player in the history of basketball...but Phil told him not to play anymore 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

@GamingWithGino 4 жыл бұрын

Toughest minded in terms of competition, dealing with an ally(coach) that you have a relationship with ain't the same

@tyronevaldez-kruger5313 2 жыл бұрын

Huh? MJ's strong competitive mindset is arguably unprecedented in entire sports history. How about that?

@hardwoodthought1213 Жыл бұрын

@@tyronevaldez-kruger5313 Because you can’t in one breath make out like MJ was the most mentally tough player ever and in another say he was basically susceptible to manipulation. He, like every human being has flaws, and weather that was doubt that he could win without Phil (which he never did) or was too trusting of him, they should be acknowledged

@tyronevaldez-kruger5313 Жыл бұрын

@@hardwoodthought1213 I never said he was flawless nor that he won all by himself. You can be the mentally toughest player ever and have flaws at the same time in a team sports tho and that's why BB is called team sports in which all factors are important. Including Tex Winter, the mastermind behind the triangle offense. MJ wasn't really too trusting to any person, that's the least proper attribute to describe him.

@tyronevaldez-kruger5313 Жыл бұрын

@@hardwoodthought1213 Btw keep in mind that he trusted Adidas the most unlike his mother. To my knowledge Only MJ dictated when to end his career after 2 come backs

@archille1 4 жыл бұрын

"I was there for the first recorded Covid-19 case"- Skip. B.

@bullshark3000 4 жыл бұрын

Skip Wuhan Bayless

@TheJonnyb2144 4 жыл бұрын

“IVE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE IT”

@truelove1297 4 жыл бұрын

Lol

@R.E._Peony 4 жыл бұрын

When they get a vaccine, Skip will say “I was there.”

@ccbgaming6994 29 күн бұрын

@R.E._Peony You were right I saw him there myself

@michaelwalker1697 4 жыл бұрын

I bet Jordan is watching this show and cracking up! The media. smh

@BigWilt2000 4 жыл бұрын

Right

@Blkac-pill-Black-Life 4 жыл бұрын

The glouvvve

@sephirrothvt 4 жыл бұрын

Michael Walker is actually Michael Jordan

@michaelwalker1697 4 жыл бұрын

nady jose villar tavarez 😂😂😂 I wish

@sephirrothvt 4 жыл бұрын

@@michaelwalker1697 stop it Michael, KD made the burner accounts great again, no shame, Republicans and democrats buy shoes? Your answer will let me know if you are or not.

@BostonsF1nest 4 жыл бұрын

I agree with Skip. If Michael even remotely tried to get everyone back together for even one more season I think they all would have been in. The unfortunate part about this series is Krause isn’t around to give his POV. Even now I think Phil is using this as a way to blame Krause for everything even tho he ultimately had final say about coming back.

@pele914 4 жыл бұрын

What if the "deal" was far below market value? So yeah a contract was "offered" but at an insulting amount. So yeah, "well see Phil is not truthfully due to a deal being offered" but reality...they offered me a deal that did not pay a winning coach what he should be paid

@_HunnidProof Жыл бұрын

@@pele914 interesting point.

@steelersMIZ 4 жыл бұрын

Skip: “I was there” Dolph Ziggler: “IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ME!!!!”

@vl1645 4 жыл бұрын

Mr. Skip "I witnessed the birth of the first dinosaur" Bayless.

@luscuenkhodish8353 4 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@georgeprchal3924 4 жыл бұрын

Maybe Skip is actually God? A terrifying thought.

@jaydaire139 4 жыл бұрын

Yep, and that dinosaur's name is Jerry Jones 😄

@chifu101 4 жыл бұрын

@@georgeprchal3924 OH NO.

@nedg3740 4 жыл бұрын

Does anyone else "zone out" when skip goes on and on about stuff?

@Chompazulu420 4 жыл бұрын

Ned G lmao skip blabbering while I’m reading this comment. Don’t know wth he been saying though 😂

@buddyis10 4 жыл бұрын

yep hes riding high on Jordan he was a bully at times and he was selfish like he called scottie he could have stayed and try for one more but he chose not too. Jordan still the best but he had a contract he could have stayed nobodys fault but Jordans, but he didn't want to try without Phil.

@ricdafric7565 4 жыл бұрын

No I zone out when Shannon starts going and getting emotional.

@mjmj6568 4 жыл бұрын

@@buddyis10 its one thing to not come back and retire...its another thing to choose not to play during the season when you know your team needs you.

@Levi-1992 4 жыл бұрын

Sometimes, but usually I just scroll through the comment section...

@charliewingate9093 4 жыл бұрын

Funny how Mr. “I was there” keeps ignoring that Reinsdorf told Phil it was gonna be rebuilding situation if he came back. This Phil conned MJ to retire narrative is silly even for Skip.

@revans100591 4 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't it have made more sense for Phil to try and get Jordan to take a year off come out West with him and win possibly two or 3 more titles with the Lakers?

@707ladytee 4 жыл бұрын

Reeal Evans Good point, if he was the Svengali as Skip adamantly claims.

@newrecruit100 4 жыл бұрын

Reeal Evans exactly lol. How skip has a job still baffles me.

@lewalcindor9356 4 жыл бұрын

And he leaves out the part about already having Tim Floyd lined up to coach the rebuild as early as 1996 after the 4th championship.

@natalieps2387 3 жыл бұрын

@@revans100591 I guess since kobe was the 2 guard that wasnt gonna fly. Plus I think kobe wanted to win as the star not get overshadowed by mj. I think if Michael hated krause he should have went to another team just like tom brady did & prove he could win anywhere & get his 7th ring. Brady has made himself the goat# of football.

@davidgutierrez4606 4 жыл бұрын

Skip "I was there when they found Nemo" Bayless.

@206remyboyz7 4 жыл бұрын

Skip when is the "I was There" documentary coming out?

@swasho2939 4 жыл бұрын

It's happening right now.

@gptsiteuser 4 жыл бұрын

If I was Shannon I would say” wanna cookie skip”

@engelmann82 4 жыл бұрын

In his mind it‘s been already released! If I hear „The Spinmaster“ one more time!!! 🤬

@joe62591 4 жыл бұрын

i was expecting skip but....

@roverjohnson6854 4 жыл бұрын

The "I was There" speech.

@MrLewisjr 4 жыл бұрын

Skip “I was there!!” Bayless

@tkrs5461 4 жыл бұрын

He was

@tenealebender7249 4 жыл бұрын

I'm a commentator... maybe not in sports but I know not every ONE makes it to to a document... don't discount an opinion for no presence in film. That's my life story.

@TheShadiestOne 4 жыл бұрын

“I was there” only took Skip 16 seconds this time lol

@donchee2166 4 жыл бұрын

😂

@kudakwashemwashayenyi4752 4 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@irissanders7487 Жыл бұрын

He was there! LOL

@leevenzotube1202 4 жыл бұрын

Reinsdorf: I offered Phil a contract Phil: Reinsdorf offered me a contract Shannon: I don’t believe Reinsdorf Skip.

@MOBROOKS 4 жыл бұрын

Lmao!

@NK-iw6rq 4 жыл бұрын

Phil said that so the media wouldn't attack him, he confirmed numerous times no contract was ever offered. Krauss did not want him on the team after the 98 season.

@leevenzotube1202 4 жыл бұрын

Nahin Khan Phil obviously lied in the past. No reason to make MJ look bad in the MJ documentary.

@lewalcindor9356 4 жыл бұрын

@@leevenzotube1202 Reinsdorf allowed his GM to tell Phil he was done after 1998 no matter what and was bringing Phil's replacement Tim Floyd around the team back in 1996. Phil was done with Krause's BS, and rightfully so.

@leevenzotube1202 4 жыл бұрын

Lew Alcindor none of that matters. Everyone said Phil was offered a contract except MJ. Uncle Shay doesn’t believe that a contract was offered. That’s all I was highlighting. Not who was right or wrong.

@jmoses5480 4 жыл бұрын

Skip "I was everywhere except in the documentary" Bayless

@moosakashif115 4 жыл бұрын

ESPN doc

@dts_8247 4 жыл бұрын

@JMoses right if he covered the entire ‘98 season (I’m not saying he didn’t) and did interviews with Jordan, Jackson, etc why didn’t he have some say in the documentary? Maybe because it was on ESPN 🤷🏾‍♂️

@moosakashif115 4 жыл бұрын

DTS _ he left espn on bad terms and espn don’t want to promote someone on a rival network because that would take away from their own viewers. Plus if he weren’t there I’m sure there would be many testimonies and stories savour slip Bayless bullshitting. But he’s on the biggest show alongside first take. There’s the facts.

@sihl3n 4 жыл бұрын

Skip Baseless

@dts_8247 4 жыл бұрын

@Moosa Kashif kinda what I thought thanks for verifying

@Arlington20082 4 жыл бұрын

I think Phil was pushed out and by the time the owner changed his mind, Phil was not interested in staying with an organization that was trying to get rid of him

@martinumana8195 4 жыл бұрын

And bro at the end of the day Jordan was a big boi when he made the decision , doesn’t matter what Jackson or or the Jerrys said. He made the choice that’s it

@jesse-ld1fz 4 жыл бұрын

yes sir

@GalacticAstroparticles 4 жыл бұрын

It was clear: Reinsdorf + Krausse wanted to get rid of Phil Jackson and rebuild, that caused MJ to side with Phil and say he would quit if he left. Then Reinsdorf + Krausse wanted to kick everyone out if MJ left. *Reinsdorf + Krausse killed the dynasty.*

@TheEvolveyt 4 жыл бұрын

Yall thought that the disciples were the authors of the bible, HA! When God rested on the 7th day ,he sat down with dear old Skip and gave his creation story. SKIP WAS THERE!

@burn_bernie1252 4 жыл бұрын

Lol

@oneway680 4 жыл бұрын

Lol Volvy be everywhere

@raya5090 4 жыл бұрын

Boom you are one funny Hebrew, good one☺

@yooklahoopla6203 4 жыл бұрын

Yoooooo whats up Evolve 😂😂

@thomasmanor4838 4 жыл бұрын

@@raya5090 hebrew?

@Ray-ku9ds 4 жыл бұрын

For the 1000th time, Skip covered the Bulls from the inside out in 98

@pootiecarta1570 4 жыл бұрын

Before I even clicked the video I could skip saying “I was there Chicago’s Tribune” blah blah blah. Skip Jordan never mentions you

@janmichaeltorzar5033 4 жыл бұрын

It would be hilarious if Skip release a book titled “I was There” then Shannon releasing a rebuttal book titled “The Man who Wasn’t There”

@matthewalkman386 4 жыл бұрын

Skip "I covered the 98 bulls" Bayless

@Starch1b2c3d4a 4 жыл бұрын

I was there

@dannymac23 4 жыл бұрын

Skip “columnist for the Chicago Tribune” Bayless

@JosueRodriguez-si2bl 4 жыл бұрын

Dmackett91 jajajajaja Nobody: Really nobody in the world: Skip: when I was a reporter for the Chicago Tribune

@matthewalkman386 4 жыл бұрын

@@JosueRodriguez-si2bl I love Skip more than SHannon any day but he cracks me up when he always says "I was there"

@ryx6071 4 жыл бұрын

Skip I thought you were there with MJ you should have told MJ about what Phil Jackson did XD

@tennesseechris5827 4 жыл бұрын

Shannon: February 17, 1963 Jordan was born Skip: I was there!!!! 😂

@AbzAden 4 жыл бұрын

Skip “I was there” Bayless 😂

@RKO859 4 жыл бұрын

"I was there when Michael Jeffrey Jordan was born."

@leetraviusmckay2919 4 жыл бұрын

Skip was there when Jesus was born, he was there when they signed the declaration of independence and of course he was there hen his God Mj won it all

@gptsiteuser 4 жыл бұрын

Someone should give him a cookie

@kingofpendragon 4 жыл бұрын

HAHAHA!!!!

@semdavidtimothysitanggang9491 4 жыл бұрын

LMAO

@pinrod1 4 жыл бұрын

The black Jesus...

@gptsiteuser 4 жыл бұрын

Aaron Whittemore don’t bring race into this !

@bullshark3000 4 жыл бұрын

skip has got a point here. phil Jackson was like a father figure to MJ, which he needed after his dad died. He also had Gus. But MJ revered and respected Phil so he would want to please him just like he wanted to please his dad by playing baseball. Phil is still the greatest coach in history

@Born2Win7774 4 жыл бұрын

When this shows comes back to normal, skip should invite Michael Jordan, the 🐐 himself. I bet Shannon will show up to battle with a suit of armor made from melting all his trophies and rings.

@PettyGG 4 жыл бұрын

Lmao 😂😂😂

@MF.G.D 4 жыл бұрын

Wearing goat mask and LBJ’s jersey, and smoking cigar with club shayshay on the table.

@kingbanksss 4 жыл бұрын

Lol Michael would never pull up tho

@beastmode218 4 жыл бұрын

You want Skip to have a heart attack

@celebritytarotreadings7065 4 жыл бұрын

Jordan is from the old school. I feel like he won't ever make an appearence OR I should say Jordan - DON'T make an appearance on ESPN or Skip's or any sports show -- or really show period. NO appearance explaining anything = is brilliant.

@williammccormick2802 4 жыл бұрын

MJ, Jackson and everyone else on Earth were told that you could go 82-0 and you're still gone. So they spent a whole year preparing for the bitter end, it happened and then it was" Let's go for 7?" I'm not buying it.

@revans100591 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I don't buy it either Jordan made it clear if Phil wasn't coming back he's not coming back and Pippen made it known he wasn't coming back since they refused to give him a new contract that was fair market value.

@realitybites629 4 жыл бұрын

@@revans100591 i was 19 in 98, and skip was saying the truth tat he was one of the media people who blamed Phil Jackson for it. Phil Already had plans to go on a sabbatical as early as 1995 before jordan came back. He was supposed to be out in 1997.

@rupertpupkin1806 4 жыл бұрын

@@revans100591 Exactly!! They didn't freaking have money to pay all of those.. Skip doesn't even acknowledge that

@ITISKONY 4 жыл бұрын

NAh you are wrong. That was only said to Phil, noy MJ and everyone else.

@ITISKONY 4 жыл бұрын

@@revans100591 They didn't refuse paying Pippen. They said they can't change is contract in 1998, that was his last year for the contract he signed. He could have gotten a new contract, and they would have paid him well

@treywise6442 4 жыл бұрын

Skip was there whe T.k Kirkland was born

@TheMiddlechild79 4 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 u sir are the mvp of the comments

@malibusmostwanted8153 4 жыл бұрын

Lol that’s good

@shuichiminamino5788 4 жыл бұрын

Ahaz Shakur yes he is 😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

@Jon155mt 4 жыл бұрын

Who???

@balintrab3614 4 жыл бұрын

Skip was there in 1998, he saw the Last Dance from the inside out, yet, we didn't see one frame with him in the documentary.

@rsikuea 4 жыл бұрын

Nobody: Skip: Did you know that I was there when they were filming The Last Dance?

@Xzilerating 4 жыл бұрын

OmG literally every single time Skip??? Seriously??? "I was there" ok we get it, no one cares at this point.

@dbreiden83080 4 жыл бұрын

Was he really there? He says he interviewed Phil Jackson at length. I have been Googling around for it, and have no hits on that interview. Nothing. He worked for the Chicago Tribune that much is true. But to what extent, he likely lies and makes that out to be far more than what it was.. As a huge fan of 90's basketball I never heard his name one time around the NBA media.. Peter Vecsey was a Columnist for the NY post that was everywhere in those days. Skip? Never heard of this guy until the old Cold Pizza Started on ESPN..

@truestdude 4 жыл бұрын

Less than 30 seconds in 😅😅😅

@slammin04sammy 4 жыл бұрын

Wait he was there? This is the first I’ve heard of it 😂

@michknoball 4 жыл бұрын

@@dbreiden83080 i was thinking the exact thing. There is not even a glimpse of him anywhere in the doc

@Elemenopi23 4 жыл бұрын

Skip was there when Mr Naismith invented the game of basketball.

@Tiger24kicks 4 жыл бұрын

Imagine T-Mac and Jordan playing together oh man. That would of been beautiful.

@aris_mendez 4 жыл бұрын

Anthony Adkins Magic was gone and chuck retired in 2000. So tmac would have guarded none of them lol

@realitybites629 4 жыл бұрын

@Anthony Adkins jordan was still killing everyone as a 38 year old wizard before he got injured lol.

@realitybites629 4 жыл бұрын

@Anthony Adkins kobe, a poorman's jordan, averaged 30pts on 45%fg, in 2003 during jordans last season. Kobe was a 2x scoring CHAMP during the so called zone era and almost won a 3peat with a not so stacked Lakers team LOL. Tim duncans best scoring season was in 2002 and 2003, the wizard mj years lol

@atlien1988 4 жыл бұрын

@Anthony Adkins smh Jordan was averaging 25ppg at 38 with the Wizards before he injured his knee. If you think Jordan couldn't play against zone defenses then you never saw Jordan play. He faced zone defenses in college and even in the NBA 😂.

@JayTechZM 4 жыл бұрын

@Anthony Adkins you could say "I WAS THERE" right?🤣

@traslenpatterson3478 4 жыл бұрын

When you think about it, skip should be happy that Jordan retired in 98' cause his spurs would've been robbed of title in 99'😂😂😂😂😂

@dwilljr2013 4 жыл бұрын

Nah the spurs would of beaten them that year they had no answer for Duncan and Robsion

@ressestevenson7309 4 жыл бұрын

@@dwilljr2013 they had no answer for jordan n pip. Who stopping the goat.

@unknownunkown2519 4 жыл бұрын

Lol

@ttoommssmmiitthh 3 жыл бұрын

@@ressestevenson7309 They had great defenders in Johnson and Elliot. However, Idk what they would have done about Duncan. A 7'0 power forward? He was a total mismatch all the way.

@Mr.KyleRichey 3 жыл бұрын

Resse Stevenson pip wouldn’t have been there, y’all crazy if you think Scottie is turning down that Houston Contract

@noxxargus2313 4 жыл бұрын

To be honest this take from Skip makes me feel real weird about Phil Jackson and I agree with Skip.

@jeremytucker8853 4 жыл бұрын

Anyone involved with Zen focuses on the mind. Manipulation can easily become part of the picture.

@zpacify 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, for once, Skip has a point here. Phil was a master manipulator. Petty and a small man at times.

@MrLp1980 3 жыл бұрын

I believe Phil already had the deal with the lakers and Krause found out. That’s why he said even if you go 82-0 you’re out of here.

@kingcort8073 3 жыл бұрын

@@zpacify how is it bad to wanna leave a team for another??

@michaelgarcia4487 4 жыл бұрын

When Jordan was at Laney High School for some odd reason , " Skip was there " !!

@buddyis10 4 жыл бұрын

lol, yep skip is not seeing clearly hes too into Jordan to be objective.

@michaelgarcia4487 4 жыл бұрын

@@buddyis10 Yea lol !!

@paulwilliams2024 4 жыл бұрын

Junbugg SP Leshannon is the least objective person

@ZandeKongo 4 жыл бұрын

For someone who "was there", Skip sounds like he didn't know a lot of things that happened. Almost like he's hyperbolic.

@spen1057 4 жыл бұрын

he literally provided evidence and fact on when he was there, you took a simple catch line and pulling it away from the real context cuz you know casuals will bite on it.

@ZandeKongo 4 жыл бұрын

@@spen1057 it ain't that serious.

@ravneetsingh2160 4 жыл бұрын

Spencer ur clearly the casual spensey

@TerkeyStone 4 жыл бұрын

Dante Maddox lmao wtf skip funny

@dwilljr2013 4 жыл бұрын

Yes he be talking like he Ahmad rashad who was Jordan close friend

@theaverageDon 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Skip, this is exactly what I’ve been thinking

@xaviervega468 4 жыл бұрын

LOL you bought that load of nonsense. If Jordan honestly thought he could keep winning without Phil or Pip he would have came back. Period

@timantoine3839 2 жыл бұрын

15:24 love when Skip mocked him 😂

@vinnythewebsurfer 4 жыл бұрын

Krause was crucified when the owner is the one who has final say. Phil Jackson plans are irrelevant.

@PicmipPixel 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Jerry Krause!

@vinnythewebsurfer 4 жыл бұрын

Godvitz yes this is his ghost getting the last laugh as MJ gets to be known as a worse executive than ME, JERRY KRAUSE. MUHAHAHAHAHAH

@quincyfrmbh2936 4 жыл бұрын

vinnythewebsurfer I bet he didn’t even know he was dead

@livewire7077 4 жыл бұрын

What? Did you even pay attention? Phil said no after JR the one who can bring him back, offered and Phil!!!! Said no! You make 0 sense

@fp8575 4 жыл бұрын

@@livewire7077 you don't get it. They weren't going to bring back most of the team, Shannon is the one that's stating facts. Phil didn't want to rebuild.

@townskt1 4 жыл бұрын

Im getting the feeling skip still wants to put paws on phil Jackson

@davidbanner5096 4 жыл бұрын

In a Celebrity death match

@km7943 4 жыл бұрын

Facts

@MOBROOKS 4 жыл бұрын

Hahahaha

@MrAces215 4 жыл бұрын

MJ didn't wanna come back without Phil bc everybody would see him for who he is. Phil made him

@febbra2 4 жыл бұрын

Skip "I was there covering my own birth" Bayless

@totalpackageinvestments6129 3 жыл бұрын

Lol, underrated comment.

@anthonys9892 4 жыл бұрын

Skip I was there but nobody wanted his input in the Docuseries 😂

@714milky 4 жыл бұрын

Hahahaha he's hating Michael Wilbon

@davidjones3625 4 жыл бұрын

😂😂💀💀💀

@davidjones3625 4 жыл бұрын

😂😂💀💀💀

@anthonys9892 4 жыл бұрын

@Phil F I'm glad you said that because David Aldridge also left ESPN for Turner. I believe he was on the Docuseries!!

@anthonys9892 4 жыл бұрын

@Phil F Point is he was there but nobody cares what he has to say!!!

@klol9652 4 жыл бұрын

Skip "I was there" Bayless. Why he always gotta say he was there. I'm glad this topic is finally over but I'll forever remember that skip thought it was okay to be a bully as long as you win or as long as you don't lose.

@gptsiteuser 4 жыл бұрын

@africaRBG 4 жыл бұрын

Oh, god. Get over yourself.

@babasmithy5599 4 жыл бұрын

Didn’t lebron traded his whole team I think that is a bully more than any thing

@sevante23 4 жыл бұрын

I've been wondering this whole time, if skip was so close and had so much inside info, why didn't they ask him to be apart of the documentary?

@SirGenesis206 4 жыл бұрын

If my boss said to me what Krause said to Phil, I’d be out too.

@razvanandreiantonescurogoz4236 3 жыл бұрын

Maybe, but if Phil is Jordan's friend, he tries to convince him to remain an active player regardless of what Phil does

@leetraviusmckay2919 4 жыл бұрын

Jerry Krause and the owner because he had Krause doing his bidding for him

@danielalemu3029 4 жыл бұрын

Spot on.

@ahwayzcool4630 4 жыл бұрын

Yup

@duecetre87 4 жыл бұрын

How come we never saw Skip in the Documentary, since he "Was there??" The Broncos that Shannon played for even got mentioned. 😂😂

@shavarez 4 жыл бұрын

I have never heard any player credit him

@heesungan2489 4 жыл бұрын

Cuz he’s with Fox

@dbreiden83080 4 жыл бұрын

@TheExclusiveOne720 4 жыл бұрын

I am sorry but I gotta finally comment on this particular subject. Was Skip there? maybe he wasn't but....maybe he was...we are talking 22 years ago when no one really knew of Skip, I think everyone is thinking that his fame "now" was his fame "then" and that may not be fair. He probably was a journalist around those teams just doing his job but of course, we didn't know of him at that time nor did we know he would end up being a popular face "today". Also I gotta say this: if any of you that are attacking Skip on this particular matter are this era LeBron fans that think he is the GOAT, ya really are some hypocrites but it is the SAME LeBron James fans that will attack Skip for him saying he was there during the Last Dance but not physically seeing him in the documentary that are claiming James as the GOAT over MJ but NEVER went back and watched him play in any FULL games or anything like that (just little highlights here and there) so in truth....ya WERE NOT there to see Michael play so you kinda lose credibility to speak on this

@heywella 4 жыл бұрын

@@dbreiden83080 I saw him in a few of the locker rooms scenes with the rest of the press. I also think if he wasn't "there" someone would've called him out for it by now. He's been saying he was "there" for years. As far as not finding his interview with Phil online, I don't know.

@Starch1b2c3d4a 4 жыл бұрын

Bro. Kukoc is a Hall of Famer 💯 criminally underrated

@yg3165 4 жыл бұрын

I can imagine skip sitting in his living room rolling on the floor crying watching the last episode of the last dance

@FriendlyRivals789 4 жыл бұрын

Scottie wasn’t coming back PERIOD!!! And we all know if Scottie wasn’t coming back MJ definitely wasn’t coming back.

@thatfatguy7591 4 жыл бұрын

Skip time traveled throughout this whole docuseries 😂

@ahwayzcool4630 4 жыл бұрын

Skip is like Dr Who. A time traveler. He was there for every major historical event. Lol

@dominicboguski844 4 жыл бұрын

Take a shot every time skip says “I was there” and “Michael Jeffrey Jordan”

@jspi04 3 жыл бұрын

Can’t even walk

@natalieps2387 2 жыл бұрын

You would be hammered lol

@wavyamar 3 жыл бұрын

Another aspect is that Toni Kukoc was incredible in 99' as well. Even if Pippen & Phil didn't come back MJ easily could have made it to the ECF. The Pacers might have got their revenge but man who really knows...

@Ryanozuma 4 жыл бұрын

Come on Skip why you going after Phil like that 😂 him being the villain is a stretch

@Jatycre 4 жыл бұрын

No, it’s not. A lot of us Bulls fans have suspected for years that Phil wasn’t above board either. Phil had a handshake deal with LA, and knew that if he didn’t get Jordan’s Bulls out of the way, his Lakers wouldn’t win chips while they were around.

@realitybites629 4 жыл бұрын

@@Jatycre skip indeed saying the truth that he was slamming phil in 1998 lol phil had already mentioned of his sabbatical as early as 1995. That is the real reason Krause started looking for a new coach. Then Jordan came back and phil had to adjust his sabbatical to give way to Jordans quest for another 3peat. People old enough know the fact that skip was really slamming phil in 98 lol

@lewalcindor9356 4 жыл бұрын

@@realitybites629 Skip is still a clown though, and I'm old enough to remember when he first came to the Tribune as a columnist. Part of Phil's need for a sabbatical was Krause's constant disrespect and need for affirmation. Krause believed just like he moved on from Doug Collins to Phil Jackson and shocked everyone and it worked out, he thought he could do the same with Tim Floyd replacing Phil. Krause said REPEATEDLY he didn't want to be the Boston Celtics and hold on to the aging players too long, he wanted to be the Baltimore Orioles who were title contenders from the 1960's into the 1980's. Krause was itching to rebuild and Tim Floyd was ALWAYS his choice to rebuild with. Reinsdorf bowed to public pressure from fans and media though and kept the team together in 1997-98, but by then Phil was sick of Krause's BS and Reinsdorf allowing it.

@realitybites629 4 жыл бұрын

@@lewalcindor9356 phil is a great manipulator. If you are old enough, you would have known that phil had also did it to Jerry West. The GMs Job is to put the pieces so that the ORGANIZATION will stay on the top for as long as they can. If you are a PRO, you know you getting paid to do your JOB. Phil should have been professional about it and waited until management final decision, instead of organizing a smear campaign on Jerry. Reinsdorf did in fact asked phil to stay in the end but phil was keen on having a BREAK. Phil knew MJ was a notoriously loyal person, and he capitalized on it.

@asaplodog6923 4 жыл бұрын

Skip where is the proof you claim u were always around Jordan didn’t see u once in the documentary sorry skip but your just a Jordan Stan nothing more

@nedg3740 4 жыл бұрын

I spotted him twice in the locker rm scenes

@bangladeshirealtor 4 жыл бұрын

He was the lead sports writer for the Chicago tribune during that time lol u don’t think they would send the lead guy to cover the city’s b-ball team ??

@asaplodog6923 4 жыл бұрын

Where was he at tho?

@asaplodog6923 4 жыл бұрын

Foh if he was so close to him as he says he would at least be in one scene

@asaplodog6923 4 жыл бұрын

🧢

@sammcdougall5646 4 жыл бұрын

Skip really gotta protect his "I love MJ" image 😂😂😂 peep @17:50 they edit out something he says to shannon

@martinthomas2520 4 жыл бұрын

Skip “I was there” Bayless 🤣

@sebastianbenitez9513 4 жыл бұрын

Coaching young Kobe & Shaq >>>>> Coaching 35 year old MJ 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

@Ikillpeeple 4 жыл бұрын

Im happy he came to my city

@smanix 4 жыл бұрын

Phil wanted to win a ring without MJ and he did.

@drestathagangsta8880 4 жыл бұрын

He had started dating Jeanie Buss around this time if I'm not mistaken. So Phil was ready to leave Chicago for sunny California anyway.

@UnexpectedWonder 4 жыл бұрын

Truly!

@christiano2349 4 жыл бұрын

Lol he hated young Kobe

@dbzdbs1484 4 жыл бұрын

I was there when we landed on the moon...lol

@QuinnClips247 4 жыл бұрын

DBZ DBS 😂

@williamm9372 4 жыл бұрын

Skip "I was there" Bayless

@godzilla7391 4 жыл бұрын

Something tells me Skip was there in 1998, during the Bulls run. At least thats what he says everytime to start off when talking about this series. 😂

@sayso13 4 жыл бұрын

It’s not a question who the goat is...Period. Lebron is wearing his number! 23 MJ 23

@ryanw373 4 жыл бұрын

Lol, what does that have to do with this discussion? If Jordan is the GOAT why do you Jordan stans keep bringing up LeBron? It’s getting old now 😂

@JohnSmith-ns4gt 4 жыл бұрын

@@ryanw373 Exactly, Lebron should never enter this conversation......yet

@chrisa4276 4 жыл бұрын

Dont even matter lets just appreciate while there still here both great players period

@vinnythewebsurfer 4 жыл бұрын

Skip really has the Zen master living in his head.

@carlanderton3rd 11 ай бұрын

3:40 "Let's throw it into a trash can & light it on fire" Lmfao

@ferragamojv 4 жыл бұрын

2020 Is Different We Got Sports Reporters Sayin “CLOUT” 🤦🏾‍♂️😂😂😂😭

@aris_mendez 4 жыл бұрын

Crazy , that word has been around before we were alive. Who knew.

@ferragamojv 4 жыл бұрын

Aris Aris Is That Right? And What Term Was It Used For🤷🏾‍♂️ Definitely Wasn’t Slang For Popularity Or Fame Now Was It? Because Before The Chicago Drill Scene NO ONE Was Saying Clout🤨🧐🤔

@Bilnation 4 жыл бұрын

If there is one thing The Last Dance has done, it’s expose a lot of the double standards that LeBron is held to.

@therenegade2660 4 жыл бұрын

Facts

@alexxallert412 4 жыл бұрын

@Nicholas B FACTS

@reggiejackson9350 4 жыл бұрын

Losing six titles is not a double standard

@DsLmaNiaC 4 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Man those excuses.

@therenegade2660 4 жыл бұрын

@Nicholas B Oh like how KD had to join golden state to win a ring?Like how Kawhi had to join the raptors to win a ring?

@mg19cal 4 жыл бұрын

Skip staying on his "I was there" while we saw 10 hours of a documentary with nary a glimpse of him. Also Skip: "Jordan was the real coach of that team" (yet LeBron is toxic to coaches 🤔)

@nedg3740 4 жыл бұрын

They showed him at least 2 times that i saw

@mg19cal 4 жыл бұрын

@@nedg3740 you must have hawk vision. I literally was looking for him to see if he was as close as he claims to be. I saw a lot of other reporters multiple times in close proximity. This guy makes it sound like he was attached to the hip of these guys

@nedg3740 4 жыл бұрын

@@mg19cal he was alot younger, sirrounded by a bunch of reporters

@mg19cal 4 жыл бұрын

@@nedg3740 i know what he looked like back in the day, my newspaper used to carry his articles every other week or so (they always had that little black and white picture of the author next to the article. Him, Andy Katz, Woj, I grew up reading them all

@dadillonful 4 жыл бұрын

@@nedg3740 where?

@bradleydaniels3864 4 жыл бұрын

Bro cut it out, it was a beautiful ending. Who's really blaming Phil here. Plus MJ laughing at y'all arguments rn 😂😂

@S6Interactive_ 4 жыл бұрын

COMING 2020!! WE WEREN’T THERE, BUT HE WAS... ROTTEN TOMATOES GIVES THIS SPECTACULAR AUTOBIOGRAPHY A 99% FRESH... THE BEST MOVIE IN AMERICA... SKIP BAYLESS IN... I Was There The Story Of Skip Bayless...Being there... Rated R

@albertok2323 4 жыл бұрын

Rated 'There'

@jlauryq1993 4 жыл бұрын

😂🤣😂🤣😂

@davidmitchell4954 4 жыл бұрын

"And the bulls began to rebuild" What a perfect ending.

@mrking1785 4 жыл бұрын

If the Bulls would’ve traded Pippen for T-Mac. I still think they win that Championship and T-Mac could have potentially led the Bulls to a future Championship.

@jamaali2358 4 жыл бұрын

@@mrking1785 Only ring T-mac would have led them to was an onion ring

@jaatown23 4 жыл бұрын

Jama Ali that’s corny....

@ddtfr1 4 жыл бұрын

You know what would've been even better? "And the Bulls are still rebuilding"

@xaviervega468 4 жыл бұрын

@@mrking1785 That trade was blocked by Jordan.

@MandyZor-El 4 жыл бұрын

People acting like losing to MJ on this debate is a terrible thing, cmon chill out. LeBron is great but like any player when compared to Michael Jordan he’s gonna lose and that’s okay. MJ is just in a league of his own 🐐

@Crosby-uq8kh 4 жыл бұрын

Facts just cause Bron isn’t better than MJ, doesn’t mean we need to disrespect him. He’s top 5-10 of basketball players of all time nothing to be ashamed about lol

@Crosby-uq8kh 4 жыл бұрын

Show Genius i can agree with top 3, I just said top 5 so everybody can agree cause everybody has their own opinions. That being said you don’t know basketball if Lebron is outside your top 10 list

@bigty390 4 жыл бұрын

Their no such thing as goat

@serge014 4 жыл бұрын

LeBron is second best player of all time. Jordan is the undisputed number one.

@TheSupervang 4 жыл бұрын

I’d walk to if I was Phil, if my manager didn’t want me to work for him I wouldn’t 🤷‍♂️

@jarodbenson9479 4 жыл бұрын

Skip has to be the luckiest sports reporter in history....he was there for the bulls, the cowboys run, he's literally been apart of some historical sports moments and its unreal lol

@Ayyerell 4 жыл бұрын

Damn why you disrespect Steve Kerr like that😂😂😂

@wchnt7 4 жыл бұрын

And judd buechler

@iamthewalrus4998 4 жыл бұрын

He does it so MJ looks even better. It’s ridiculous. Jordan is the goat but come on, he had the GOAT coach and an amazing team around him. No need to discredit everyone

@Soldier979 4 жыл бұрын

Steve Kerr "saved" Jordan's legacy in his 5th title run

@saoud1014 4 жыл бұрын

If anything the Last Dance has really exposed and magnified the flaws of this show, Undisputed. Shannon will try to nitpick, shame, exaggerate anything he’ll see and take the littlest of comment out of context like what Kerr said at the end.. Bro that’s what u got from all that? It’s just so sad and desperate Skip on the other hand will do all the same things to push up his agenda.. like a broken record. How many of the same arguments have we heard in these last 5 weeks? You been handed an opportunity of a life time to actually discuss Jordan’s era legitimately and you turn into into American Idol on who’s better blah blah blah I love Undisputed, but these last few weeks has exposed the dumb petty clickbait style of content I hated seeing from First Take.. ironically, First Take has been kinda good covering all this. Haven’t you learned anything from Kobe’s death? That you need to go to such levels to bring a man down to win a tired “debate” ? Shame on both of you.

@kpNov23 4 жыл бұрын

Skip has always been like this: emphasizes entertainment more than content and logic.

@tommyboy1504 4 жыл бұрын

@@kpNov23 Well thats business. Fox is a business. It needs to bring in as much money as possible

@87Michael 4 жыл бұрын

I agree with EVERYTHING you said, especially the First Take part. They’ve covered The Last Dance way better than Undisputed. Kobe’s death has shown these guys nothing. They’ll continue to build up one athlete just to tear another one down. This documentary had NOTHING to do with LeBron but he’s constantly brought up. Skip’s gonna be Skip when it comes to MJ but I’m so disappointed in Shannon after watching this. I used to think so highly of him too but the longer this documentary went on the more & more he’s shown his true colours. The amount of times he said things along the lines of “wanting to fight MJ” like he was there or something. 🤦🏾‍♂️

@MrGenexxx 4 жыл бұрын

@Incroyable Looking at Shannon's background I really think he believes everything he says

@jeanmiess2625 4 жыл бұрын

I agree with almost everything except the last part .

@GMAMEC 4 жыл бұрын

Phil Jackson’s record speaks for itself.

@MyAutoTune 4 жыл бұрын

Skip was in The Last Supper painting, and he was also there when they signed the Declaration of Independence.

@josiahmitchell8594 4 жыл бұрын

Skip said MJ didn't need Phil but didn't win with Doug Collins 🤔

@travisblair3189 4 жыл бұрын

Exactly!!!

@mefadon459 4 жыл бұрын

I agree with skip. He is the spin master. He truly showed his colors in NY and the ploy he put on Melo to ruin him in NY.

@jzw55 4 жыл бұрын

I was actually shocked to hear Mike say he wanted to come back. A guy with all the cache in world couldn’t get these 2 jerkoffs to keep it going. I think Skip is dead on about Phil wanting to go to the Lakers. I think he wanted to win without Mike, his gf Jeanie in LA, & he kept that all away from Michael. He was done period and to watch mike be in the dark about it is crazy to me

@y2shuproblem 4 жыл бұрын

He believed that he wanted to be there until somebody knocked them off the pedestal.