Unfixable Ducati ST2, I don't think so! 4th time lucky 🤞

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Superbike Surgery Ltd

Superbike Surgery Ltd

5 ай бұрын

Three other dealers tried to fix this. What the F....k were they playing at?
In this episode, I'll be taking a look at a Ducati ST2 that's apparently unfixable!
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@volvogt21
@volvogt21 5 ай бұрын
I think you give other bike mechanics way more credit than they deserve. The reason I watch you is because you're cleverer than any bike mechanic I've been to. Well done for not just throwing parts at it. And yes bmw were famous for overtightening cable ties and creating tension where tension shouldnt exist.
@SuperbikeSurgeryTV
@SuperbikeSurgeryTV 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for your positivity mate, it means more than you probably realise 👍
@volvogt21
@volvogt21 5 ай бұрын
@SuperbikeSurgeryTV you're welcome. I just wish you lived in Australia. They two bmw specialists I use for my collection of bikes have about 20% of your skill-set. Great blokes but they don't have that thirst for knowledge that you obviously do.
@bananabrooks3836
@bananabrooks3836 5 ай бұрын
​@SuperbikeSurgeryTV Doctors have it easier, their patients don't just sit there and shrug when asked "Whats wrong?"
@paullyons4624
@paullyons4624 5 ай бұрын
@@bananabrooks3836I’ve always said this, diagnosis would be better/quicker if your patient could talk. The level of equipment like mri and X-rays that techs don’t get to use
@Near2Future
@Near2Future 4 ай бұрын
Cable ties are my pet peve! They hook upto the protective part. Which rides up the wires making them exposed. It can also act as a sack to collect water.
@munter10
@munter10 5 ай бұрын
Awesome content Jim, I’m a car mechanic of 35 years and just completed the last 5 years at a Suzuki BMW franchise (bikes) here in NZ. I’m a Suzuki guy but watched the BMW tech working and I can tell you now there was very little support from the dealership’s management as far as technical training and support went… he was a talented mechanic and it was only that he was bright and tenacious that helped him solve some of the electronic faults and issues on the BMWs he worked on. Suzukis… a walk in the park compared to Beemers on the over complicated electrics/electronics they put in to their bikes (and cars) I’m now retired and spend hours watching you work and solve problems as you do… really enjoying it! Keep pumping out the content Jim… a lot of mechanics around the world are watching and gaining knowledge thru your work. 😊
@SuperbikeSurgeryTV
@SuperbikeSurgeryTV 5 ай бұрын
Thanks Mate, they are really kind words and very much appreciated 🙏
@firestorm755
@firestorm755 5 ай бұрын
Years ago I had an issue with my firestorm. It would cough and fart coming out of rbts and 2nd gear corners. I tried replacing all the parts I could think of over an 18 month period. Ignition pick up, ECU, TPS, carbs, coils, leads, plugs. Nothing worked until I changed the plug caps. I kid you not there was a crack on the front one under the rubber seal. Changed it and the feeling of having fixed it was just the best!!
@SB-vb8ch
@SB-vb8ch 3 ай бұрын
Don't know these systems specifically but it looked like the common connection is actually the signal ground which will supply all of the sensors, the raw 5v is generally for APS, MAP, & TPS. Most temperature sensors have the pull up to 5v inside the ecu so the variable resistance of the sensor forms the other half of the potential divider & therefore gives a voltage proportional to temperature.
@basilwatson1
@basilwatson1 3 ай бұрын
good call on the compression test
@craigkessler7350
@craigkessler7350 5 ай бұрын
Owner of 1998 st2 bought new and 2002 st4s bought used. Love the St2. St4s will cook your legs in the summer and run very hot. Had to add a manual switch to turn cooling fan on. Great videos. Not much love given to these less than popular models.
@scotw67
@scotw67 5 ай бұрын
More video gold! I’ve learned so much from your clips. You don’t know how much I appreciate all the time and effort you put into making them.
@rafaellastracom6411
@rafaellastracom6411 5 ай бұрын
I´m here for the waffling.
@nockianlifter661
@nockianlifter661 5 ай бұрын
I had the ST4s which suffered from a myriad of faults that were intermittent. Somebody on the Ducati forum suggested I have a look at the big multi-pin plug on the left hand side under the fairing. It looked fine to me and I reported back. He asked me had I looked at the backside of the plug which I hadn’t. Gawd 😮 it was a green mess of decaying cables. I was quite surprised it ever ran. I removed the multi-plug and soldered all the cables instead. Bike ran fine after that.
@IDontWantAHandle101
@IDontWantAHandle101 4 ай бұрын
Hi, good methodical fault finding process. However i cant help myself from commenting that the suspect sensor housing showed a lot of paint bubbling commensurate with a coolant leak from the hose above the sensor. This might have been the overall cause of the fault. Good dose of chain lube in that connector would be a good idea.
@tonymosley8676
@tonymosley8676 5 ай бұрын
As a Ducati 907 owner this stuff is golden to me, same system with perhaps not even the barometric sensor, all inherited from the 851 I think, Ducati's first injection system... Mine has always farted occasionally at 3000 rpm, which unfortunately is where the engine stays 90% of the time, it recently decided to expand band of discontent that down to 2500rpm. In terms of things to fix that is far below replacing the cylinder head O rings...
@00Munki
@00Munki 5 ай бұрын
Fantastic again. Echo others comments, basically not all mechanics/technicians/ engineers are born equal! I often fall into the same trap assuming that others know what they are doing when reality is that they are just wininging it, throwing parts at a problem and jave no idea how to logically diagnose a fault. You comtinually demonstrate mastery of your craft. Wish i had guys like you working with me!!
@sagecouncil
@sagecouncil 4 ай бұрын
I really like your logical approach to solving these problems..Excellent work again.
@kevinsmith-dn1px
@kevinsmith-dn1px 18 күн бұрын
Now that sounded rough! The only Ducati fitted with a Tractor Engine 😂
@RoobieRoo2
@RoobieRoo2 5 ай бұрын
Not a bike mechanic but video was super interesting from a diagnostic perspective. Thanks so much XD
@philc70
@philc70 5 ай бұрын
disconnect and reconnect fix pisses me off, I'd sooner find a broken wire! good work fella
@vendy4625
@vendy4625 5 ай бұрын
Extremely knowledgeable with passion Love it Subbed
@samagalski87
@samagalski87 2 ай бұрын
You are artist. It ain't trade but pure art.
@ritchsuk1840
@ritchsuk1840 5 ай бұрын
Love this video :) nice to see some methodical diagnosis and not just throwing parts at a problem :)
@984francis
@984francis 3 ай бұрын
There is a product called Deoxit that comes as both a spray and a liquid. It works. In vintage electronics, it's always connectors switches and tube pins first. I use it on my bikes.
@johnpollock4257
@johnpollock4257 5 ай бұрын
Top man great work and patience + experience
@stuwhite1969
@stuwhite1969 5 ай бұрын
Just come across this channel, great video's! Looking forward to the R1
@teamgas
@teamgas 5 ай бұрын
Another brilliant video going through your thought process! Diagnostic skills seem to be sadly lacking in most workshops.
@kwakgreen
@kwakgreen 5 ай бұрын
Another Great Vlog Jim.👍👍👍.
@stabes70
@stabes70 3 ай бұрын
Great job Jim, I own three Dukes and nice to see you working on them and using your magic to get em running right. The ST series are under rated and ride really nice.. Keep up the great work 👍🏻
@virtuosomuso
@virtuosomuso 5 ай бұрын
Thanks Jim ,I thoroughly enjoyed that video , makes me want to go out and spend 1000's on tech lol , keep em coming
@chancha1916ks
@chancha1916ks 5 ай бұрын
I absolutely love your videos. Having only just found your channel I’m actively looking for shagged bikes that I think I can fix 😂😂
@SuperbikeSurgeryTV
@SuperbikeSurgeryTV 5 ай бұрын
😂
@Patchesrepairshop
@Patchesrepairshop 3 ай бұрын
I had two of these great bikes, both had that exact problem. It was the internal fuel pipe split due to partial blocked fuel filter. Both are internal in the tank. Great Chanel mate. 😊
@PD-bl7xw
@PD-bl7xw 5 ай бұрын
We enjoy listening to you waffle Jim, Diagnostics is defiantly lacking in the motorcycle world and with the complexity increasing something that needs more focused training on for the next generation techs. some good diagnostic gear out there nowadays but not much use without knowledge. your skill and knowledge on how things work enables you to nut things out and a pleasure to watch. i youtube a lot of the automotive diag stuff which helps me use on motorcycles, a couple of good ones are pine hollow auto diagnostics and south main auto repair LLC.
@motorcyclegarage2307
@motorcyclegarage2307 5 ай бұрын
I have a st2 and everything is fixable on it. Yes it took me 2 years to fix . Spark plugs are first thing replacement. All relays. Crank position sensor. O2 ADJUSTER ON ecu. Very good luck Jim .
@alvaromateosfernandez-maqu5772
@alvaromateosfernandez-maqu5772 Ай бұрын
Este vídeo ha sido de gran ayuda, gracias!
@dalemeadows225
@dalemeadows225 4 ай бұрын
You’re a top bloke. You know what I’m trying to say 😅
@stevekirk6399
@stevekirk6399 5 ай бұрын
so informative cheers.
@TheDervMan
@TheDervMan 5 ай бұрын
You’re a bike fixing legend 😎🔧
@andrewhansen4179
@andrewhansen4179 2 ай бұрын
The stock temp sensors may be the French made ones that aren't that reliable. Change over to new Bosch sensors. That worked wonders on my 1999 ST4.
@truthboomertruthbomber5125
@truthboomertruthbomber5125 3 ай бұрын
It may just be the microphone on the camera but even after the repair the idle seemed terrible. It would be interesting to check the throttle body sync.
@josegoncalves9477
@josegoncalves9477 5 ай бұрын
Another great video top man!! Thanks and keep the good work. PS: what is the diagnostic tool you use on the tablet?
@SuperbikeSurgeryTV
@SuperbikeSurgeryTV 5 ай бұрын
It's a TEXA TXB Evolution 👍 www.texa.co.uk/products/navigator-txb-evolution/
@maartenadmiraal9148
@maartenadmiraal9148 Ай бұрын
That's one healthy starter motor.
@WilliamCrean-gr2iq
@WilliamCrean-gr2iq Ай бұрын
Thanks you've given me some pointers for my dodgy dash temperature readout. What diagniostic system are you using for the bike, Is there a nanocom type device for the ST2 do you know?
@mechtechmechanical1571
@mechtechmechanical1571 3 ай бұрын
great channel
@thediddly
@thediddly 5 ай бұрын
You may find that the map sensor is insind the dashboard, integrated into the circuitry..absurd i know but there it is...well at least it was for the 999 onwards. It looks like a vented mushroom cap made of rubber on the back where the plug is.
@SuperbikeSurgeryTV
@SuperbikeSurgeryTV 5 ай бұрын
Think that's the baro sensor (AP) not The (MAP) 🤔
@thediddly
@thediddly 5 ай бұрын
@SuperbikeSurgeryTV ok, not 100% on the st2, the later models, i have: 749, 999, 1098, and 1098sf, they have air temp sensors in the nosecone, headlight support etc, and the pressure sensor in the cluster measures absolute pressure going by jpdiag software. There is no intake map sensor in that generation of ducs that im aware of in the inlet tract or airbox, which indeed is a shame as the value may very well be different inside the airbox. So i cant say for certain but good to know regardless. Thanks for your videos. I currently have a tps issue on my 999, and now fixed blocked injector(it stood for 5 years) and found via tuning software no tps value was recieved. Found it was an open wire with a continuity test to ecu. Why im saying this because with your videos of your process of diagnostics i was able to identify and now hopefully fix my issues. Cheers mate
@thediddly
@thediddly 5 ай бұрын
@SuperbikeSurgeryTV yep i re ready your comment, its indeed AP
@lrdisco2005
@lrdisco2005 2 ай бұрын
The first guy fired the parts cannon, and gets paid, everyone after him takes the risk of ownership of the fault.
@ianlawrie919
@ianlawrie919 5 ай бұрын
Goodness me🤦‍♂️ it’s all black art to me 😂👍👏👌
@rafaellastracom6411
@rafaellastracom6411 5 ай бұрын
Well, not really although on modern bikes with so much electronics it becomes difficult to trouble-shoot even the most minor faults. Jim does a great job of dwindling down the trouble-shooting ladder and arriving at the root cause quite quickly. He´s very, very good.
@banditnev
@banditnev 5 ай бұрын
Often even new bikes can have bad connetions out of the box Jim.
@Venturesconstruction
@Venturesconstruction 2 ай бұрын
Good day, what scan tool are you using to scan the bikes please
@rodneygunn788
@rodneygunn788 4 ай бұрын
Correct you can’t tune a worn out engine always check compression
@bananabrooks3836
@bananabrooks3836 5 ай бұрын
If only Duc. hadn't styled the headlight area like the depressed looking Fiesta mk4....
@SuperbikeSurgeryTV
@SuperbikeSurgeryTV 5 ай бұрын
😂
@matthewharmer1656
@matthewharmer1656 5 ай бұрын
Superb..
@kamil19951
@kamil19951 5 ай бұрын
Have you ever tried measuring relative compression using your oscilloscope? I think it would show compression problem like you explained about GT750, but you wouldnt have to remove spark plugs etc.
@SuperbikeSurgeryTV
@SuperbikeSurgeryTV 5 ай бұрын
I have 👍 it's a really useful tool when the plugs are a nightmare to get at. kzfaq.infoiBpxsLsADzQ?feature=share
@spatchist
@spatchist 5 ай бұрын
How about pointing an infrared thermometer at the header pipes ? I'd think the lower compression cylinder would make less heat ? Anyhow , love this type of content having 'enjoyed' my share of tricky problems on motorcycles .
@FREE_PUREBLOOD333
@FREE_PUREBLOOD333 5 ай бұрын
Jeez those dry clutches sound crap.. nice work as always..love the way you problem solve. 👍
@patthewoodboy
@patthewoodboy 4 ай бұрын
waxoyl all connectors , both inside and out
@firebird14420
@firebird14420 5 ай бұрын
Can a diagnostic tool go onto a 95 Yamaha Virago 535?
@SuperbikeSurgeryTV
@SuperbikeSurgeryTV 5 ай бұрын
Depends on what you mean by Diagnostic tool? There is no facility to read any information from the ECU in the modern sense. You can measure absolutely everything with a Scope, though.
@theriderdtm8650
@theriderdtm8650 3 ай бұрын
👍🏻😊
@sthildas4857
@sthildas4857 5 ай бұрын
As much as the simplicity of the fix seems easy, finding any intermittent fault needs to be happening to find it. As much as any have electric continuity, any connection itself can potentially be faulty. Finding is the issue.
@damianbrennan2258
@damianbrennan2258 3 ай бұрын
I'm a 62 year mechanic u no a lot led talk more work
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