Right! But I think it just feels different when you're not the one in control.

Do you really think they were scared? The only thing they were scared about is someone else driving..

@@markkulehtinen4733 Ikä tekee sitä...

@@markkulehtinen4733 when your windshield looks sideways at the passing trees you sure worry

The thing is: when you know how to drive you also know how little it takes for it to go straight to hell.

I'm not disputing anything about how crazy sport rally is. But it's also a very common theme that when you are good driver (in any category), you are a terrible passenger at high speeds. 😃 Often good drivers have a need to be in control and they also understand the margin of error in a higher level than others.

@@magicofshootingstar5825 It's because there are so many more variables in rallying than in circuit racing. It's not just the unpredictability of the circuit grip; it's also the unevenness of the surface. Hit a bump in just the wrong place while at high speed and there's almost no way to save the car. It all happens on real world roads, so your reactions and feel with the car, as well as car control, rhythm, scope of commitment and anticipation have to be so much more developed - all while processing information from your co-driver.

@petertromp8786 I understand that but I'm just saying rally drivers are often as scared if they get to go to be passengers in two-seaters. Or Indycar. Or other disciplines 🙂

@@magicofshootingstar5825 There's a difference between being naturally scared because you're a passenger instead of the driver, and what Mika and DC expressed, because they experienced the brutality and speed of modern day rallying on gravel for the first time.

Higher level? Mika won 2 WDC's out of 3 seasons he had a competitive and reliable car. People still don't understand how fast he was.

Yeh, "Holy fuck!" has always summed rallying up perfectly well.

You are right. They are much, much better than any F1-Driver. Walter Röhrl said, that F1 is Children Birthday against WRC and earlier Rallye-WM. And what Walter said is the thruth.

i think wrc is getting very popular again soon

@@vb917 Walter never drove in Finland. Not one to call anyone participating Children Party.

I think Scotts and Finns get along quite well overall. We are both people of north, and as a finn, i have some weird feeling/understanding that there is same kind of stubborn warrior attitude in Scotts...am i right or on completely wrong tracks here??

youare not wrong :)@@phm19880

@@phm19880 Could be. Finns were also always the underdog and constantly being pestered by either the Swedes or the Russians - the Scotts had the same experience with the English.

I do think Lewis and Nico will one day get along, when Lewis finally retires.

He's insanely talented, and essentially a mirror image of Max (former pro raising their kid from a young age.)While ive got NO doubt he has the talent, open wheel is such a different enviroment I doubt he'd be on the pace immediately.

@@AmbientMike Well if Loeb was on pace during his F1 test, why couldn't he?

@@RecycleFinn He was on pace, but wouldnt have had the pace to be a frontrunner. They're both talented in different ways too, Loeb a former gymnast so hes got that natural balance and agility. Kalle, pretty much raised to drive offroad, so shows why his rally/drift skills are so good. Ive got no doubt he'd impress but prob not as quick as loeb could

@@alexhidell663 Kalle would dominate 😎

​@@alexhidell663yes can if car is faer

Actually... se F1 testi on ihan oikeesti tapahtumassa, ihan lähi tulevaisuudessa.

@@LegoGBlok Oho, on kova juttu jos näin on ✋

Kalle osaa vaan liu'uttaa

Which podcast did they mention this?

@@dct1 formula for success

Its not the speed, that scares them. Its the xombined conditions.

Both of their lives depend on the actions of both of them, and for sure both are scared of their own actions and those of the other. But should be about the same level of fear for both. Why would anybody be scared of a world-class driver being behind the wheel of a million-dollar car, by the way? Not only he can drive thousands of times better than you and me, he also has as his Number 1 Rule to avoid crashing at all costs. Every racing and rally drivers must avoid crashing, even if that means compromising speed. Not only due to the expensive equipment, but also because crashing means losing heaps of time or even the end of your race. That in turn means you can't keep driving and using that experience to improve your skills.

@@zwjna I would certainly be very scared as a passanger no matter who was driving. That being said, I would be more than happy to drive a rally car and push myself to the limit. The difference is in the feeling of control. For the same reason I love racing but I hate rollercoasters.

@@janbo8331 Damn, I would love too. Any car, on proper gravel stages. I see we are fellow simracers, so at least we are lucky for having that these days! Have you tried RBR with NGP7 physics? Nikolay Gryazin uses it to train for real life. Kalle himself and Teemu Suninen have played it, too, and agreed it's the most realistic. That hypes me even more to do IRL rally.

@@zwjna I have not actually!. I should try it, thanks for the tip. Haven't driven RBR in a long time to be honest. The last time was probably in a competition during Neste Rally Finland.. long time ago. You like it better than Dirt Rally, for example?

@@janbo8331 As far as realism goes, I indeed like it better! It's been a long time since I don't play Dirt Rally [1], but I can remember some things. Here they are: the exaggeratedly high grip on loose surfaces, specially when going sideways, and the very low weight of the cars. Weight transferring is not much of a problem, nor a need. That is specially noticeable with the Group B cars, which in real life were so understeery and unresponsive and needed some aggressive driving to make them turn. Some of them had permanently locked differentials, and they all had very primitive AWD systems. Yet on Dirt Rally they steer immediately and are faster through the stages than WRC cars, which is for sure not realistic at all. The Monte Carlo stages are icy and snowy, but they feel extremely grippy - compare with [2]. The cars on tarmac feel like driving on gravel but with much more grip. They slide laterally easily, which for sure can't happen with proper tarmac tires and the high grip of the sealed surface. They should feel more like a train. Hairpins are quite easy with the AWD cars on Dirt Rally: there's no risk of spinning the car immediately if you throw the rear around too fast and you don't have proper throttle control. I don't quite remember now, but I believe I was throwing the cars sideways around hairpins, going flat on the throttle, and nothing would happen; just drive off nicely. This is a common source of controversy in the world of NGP physics, in which it's easy to lose control on the hairpins. People believe AWD cars shouldn't spin on tarmac hairpins. Most likely they don't know they can setup the cars to avoid that, and that such spins also happen in real life - and that for sure WRC drivers avoid spinning at all costs on them, since there's very little time to gain in those, but a lot to lose. As far as joy goes, I like both! [1] kzfaq.info/get/bejne/admcZtF4rNK4k3U.html [2] kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g71kmMKJu5y3k5c.html

😂

Ciaoo good afternoon from northern Finland a month later lol 🤪🤘

I have similar hopes for Kalles career too. As a finn, i have of course white/blue colored point of view, and i was really proud 23 years ago about statistics of wrc championships. That time there were only two driver who have 4 championships( and nobody didnt have more than those ofc) Kankkunen and Mäkinen, both finns. Then after Grönholm (2 x championship) we didnt have finnish champion. Those frenchmen really spoiled our party. It is worth to mention that in finland nobody dont have nothing else than huge respect for those two french and for every champion in general. With Kalles last year championship, i can tell u that many folks in Finland was having a feeling like title is coming home. We feel littlebit like its our neighbourhood. There have been 7 Finnish champion, since the very beginning of sport. We dont have so many thing where we can be proud and be noticed in international stages. Wrc is like that, sometimes F1 also. "If you want to win, you need to hire a finn"

With Kalle's drifting skills thrown in the mix he'll be taking it to the max👍👍👍

It has to be a narrow, fast road with lots of deadly objects on the sides to scary them. Tarmac is circuit racers' comfortable home. And they're 1000% better at it than rally drivers.

@@Str8representing You are forgetting that Mika has raced in The Arctic Rally in Northern Finland. Kimi Raikkonen rallied in WRC for two seasons. Many F1 drivers raced in rallies in the old days, and some rally drivers like Markku Alen and Sebastian Loeb have raced on tarmac circuits. Both Solbergs have raced Rallycross. Talent is talent. It's just up to what you wan't use it for - and lots of training.