"we investigated ourselves and we did nothing wrong" This is why all workers need Unions to fight crap like this

As long as there are no criminal consequences, Boeing will never change

When one of these flying coffins goes down, don't say we were never warned.

This shows their profit over safety approach very well.

literally watching this video while flying on a 787 with its wifi. imagine if i played this video out loud.

not surprised

Retaliated? They shot the guy in the hotel parkinglot in Charleston SC.

We have investigated ourselves and we have found that we have done nothing wrong!

At this point refusing to fly Boeing planes is certainly the right cause of action. At least in the future. This 'safety' approach is rotten to the core. As much as I personally hate red tape, I am a programmer and don't work on safety relevant stuff. These procedures were put into place for a reason, like that stress on material was simulated, and if you use more force in alignment than assumed in the simulation that's invalidating the simulation and not going to go well long term. The problematic part is that these kinds of failures are not predictable (if not aware of the shortcuts that were taken) and often happen at a later stage in the product lifecycle, so depending on when this happened, we're yet to see the magnitude of these issues. Potentially all Boeing airplanes that were subject to these shortcuts (which may be hard to trace, so potentially one has to consider all manufactured planes during that time) are ticking bombs just yet to go off. Which would ruin many companies on top of Boeing (Boeing users or their insurers). What the hell OS wrong with these managers. I know shortsightnedness is a common affliction amongst some managers, but that magnitude... The ironic part is that they did it to boost production, so the very reason they did it serves to increase the magnitude of the damage caused.

Should never have merged with McDonnell Douglas. Still don't understand how they could join forces with the company that built the reviled DC-10.⚰️☠️ If I have to fly in the future, I will only travel on Airbus jets. The fact that a whistleblower was murdered during his testimony, appears to have been swept under the rug. I mourn for William Boeing, Bill Allen and all of the people who dedicated their time, energy, talent and lives to building some of the most beautiful, state of the art jets in the world. ( I love you 757 !!! The flying sportscar !!)🥰🥰🥰🤗✈️ I'm angry at whoever allowed this merger to happen and gave permission for the McDonnell Douglas merchants of death, to infect such a wonderful company.😢😢

An engineering culture begins at the top, so until Boeing puts qualified engineers in charge at every level up to the top, there will be continued intractable infighting like we're seeing now.

Boeing, we hear nothing, know nothing! It was the big boy down the street that done it

Their names are likely on the 'car park' list

Whistleblowers being retaliated against is a common theme. Even in government agencies like the FBI, IRS, National Security agencies, military, etc and there are laws to protect them.

To the surprise of absolutely nobody

Don't rock the boat in other words. Corporate bullying at its finest. Why would anyone want to work at a company like this.

The whole Boeing top needs to go.

Think the unions should should explain to all Boeing engineers that public safety does not meet the threshold of "gag orders" on Non disclosure agreements...keep whistle blowing...

Whaaaaaat I can't belieeeeeve it 😲

I would just stay away from Boeing at this point. Enough is enough!

Second whistle blower died in hospital cause got sick suddenly.

We now have two whistleblowers who died under mysterious circumstances. Dry bizarre

What a crap company Boeing has become….

The Boeing management clearly is: "Safety last"

Douglas should have never merged with McDonald where this "don't spend and don't improve" mentality originated. This continuing mentality has now affected Boeing and will eventually kill the company since there no solution to change the board of directors' minds. Airbus rightfully wins.

DUH. They prove time and time again they think profits are more important then safety.

The problem can be summed up with one word. Union.

It's not Boeing, it is MD. Boeing's soul died when the company left Seattle. It's not 737 Max, it is DC - 13

What I think is that I don't want to fly on a Boeing.

So Boeing is investigating itself and saying everything is fine?

The Boeing 787 plant in South Carolina is a text book case in retaliation.

Boeing is the most honest company I know next to the top 3 pharmaceutical companies

It’s really horrible status…it might be occur much more disasters in air frights! I’m now engaging in aviation industry, where we always relate with their products. Not only customers but also our colleagues could be involved with matters. I wish that they will share the truth of their production and improve worker’s environmental issues as fast as possible.

I was wondering what are unions doing out there at Boeing with everything happening? Aren't they supposed to stand up for workers?

The rot goes deep, very very deep!

When this countries Supreme Court ruled that corporations were people to. What they should have added, the most despicable sort of people.

Airbus takes over the #1 spot. My future flights will involve checking the itinerary and aircraft being used. Engineers and all employees should be on the same page with management regarding safety. More work needs to be done in designed parts of aircraft before manufacturing

The Boeing saga will go on for a long time. In the meantime, many are waiting for a Boeing 787 crash? What the heck?

And so far their claims are groundless. 787s have flown millions of miles without a problem and are certified. If it turns out they’re just after personal revenge,they should be charged.

defend the 2nd so whistleblowers can defend themselves

If it's a Boeing I am not going

No evidence of retaliation? How about the dead whistleblower?

Evil only pursue that which serves its interests- evil. That’s why it’s very crucial that necessary steps are taking to protect the engineers/whistleblowers. These victims are not fighting individual battle, they’re fighting for the preservation of humanity.

Can anyone realistically trust anything Boeing management say? I have a flight coming up on a Max and seriously considering if I should change carriers.

Until the Boeing Executive Compensation program is revised to reward meaningful company performance metrics over a long term moving average time period, rather than the stupid monthly and quarterly bonuses, harmful management behavior will persist. Under the current system, Boeing Comercial Aircraft division will not last 5 years.

The corruption of the corporate culture at Boeing is heartbreaking! This once great company has devolved into a Wall Street entity who ONLY purpose is to make money and the willingness to subvert everything to make money. They P1ss on safety requirements and, apparently, fail to do the required inspections or buzz through them without due diligence. I've worked on Boeing planes when Boeing was a respected company, but they are no longer a respected company.

didnt you know? corperations are immune to government regulations.at least in their own minds.

Another man was taken down and made to look like he did it himself

Oh Boeing, you're getting pathetic

After decades and decades of the company dismiss issues brought up by employees the union steps up, where is local union 751 aerospace machinist union? It's not just the engineering employees but the employees on the floor of manufacturing whom also have had issues.

The FBI should raid Boeing's computers and all files now !!

You don't need to be an advanced aerospace engineer, or even a genius, to grasp the reality of what has been going at Boeing. Quality and safety are not important because these things take time and cost money. And money in their pocket and shares value (many bonuses are paid in shares too, so that's related) is the only thing that interests anyone who has decision power at Boeing. Of course, anyone who fails to follow this straight line has a hellish life. This will not change unless there is a HUGE change in management, and the changes have been cosmetic and to pretend that something is happening, when in reality it's business as usual in the past 20 years. Building planes is a hassle and takes too much time, and Boeing management knows they can keep the ship floating for a long time by doing nothing and letting it go on. The US government will ultimately let things go on because it's in their best interest, or it will have to take the helm and of what remains to be seen. Boeing clearly knows that they will still get orders anyway, there's only another game in town and they have a huge backlog that only grows. What amazes me is that there are airlines still ordering Boeing planes, because at some point the Boeing brand can be completely worthless. And that point is not that far, or unrealistic.

Why does all these incidents sound as though the Mafia is running the show?

If one was a Boeing employee, the "Speak Up" process is like asking for a table at the "Red Wedding" (Game of Thrones).

Boeing have sadly have learnt absolutely nothing from recent tragedies. The Dollar is all important and safety and quality control is nothing more than an inconvenience.

Go Airbus!

If it's Boing I am not going

Not surprising, they murdered a whistleblower and killed hundreds through negligence, nothing this company does surprises me except that they continue to exist.

I will never fly on a Boeing aircraft, even if the airline gives me a 1st class seat free of charge!

Just don't get on a Boeing aircraft, that's all I'm going to say

How sad to see Boeing go down the drain . Really no short term solution, the old Boeing culture needs to return

Seems like the Al Baker culture has left it's legacy even at Boeing.. problem is these ME airlines are buying more than they need and other national airlines can't flourish or start up, and they demand these aircraft asap, hence the poor manufacturing....

Funny how they just keep dying.

Oh yes, the land of the FREE. If you keep your mouth shut.

it is a joke . pilot welcome pasager whit phrase " new type and build boing state of the art " . all pasager rush to get out except 5 . all be afraid about quality . this 5 was sure boing even take off . no hurry to get out

can you discuss on busy flights to malaysia because i usually see 2 etihad flights to kul but now 3 flights,and saudia has 4 flughts because of privilage,PIA comes once,shanghai and shenzhen airlines come two times,US-Bangla airline now uses the a330 to malaysia,i think there is a high number of people who want to go to malaysia

Boeings culture is rotten to the core - time to close the company and save lifes.

DON'T FLY ON A BOEING JET VERY SIMPLE GO AIRBUS❤

RIP. And we thought only Putin & Kim Jong-Un snuffed out their critics.

Boeing fans have no shame. They will support Boeing no matter what .

America: Congress defunds regulators to force them to let industry regulate themselves like auto and aerospace.

Boeing will teach those pesky union employees by looking the other way for profit over safety. If it is Boeing, I am not flying!

When you say, "Boeing retaliated", it is a lack of understanding how these companies work. Most likely some lower/mid-level projects leaders retaliated, not for protecting the company, but for protecting their own high-status careers. This situation happens regularly at all large aero companies. It is a result of the government mandating an authoritarian very hierarchical engineering team structure, specific paperwork bureaucracy (formal systems engineering and DO-254 pseudo-science) and project micromanagement with review/approved mini milestones. The final result is corruption at low levels of management..

Safety and quality is 80% culturally based. And culture is driven from the top. Therefore Boeing is screwed.

This is sounding very ai. Please no

1st😂

Those comments came on the heels of the statement the Union released regarding the actual employee responsible for the below average work. "We have successfully mediated the issue with the employee who failed, repeatedly, to do their job correctly. They will receive a 15% wage increase, and will work a 32 hour work week, and their title will become Operations Manager, Manufacturing." "Also, we hope Boeing will be able to fire additional management that were not directly related to the actual manufacure of the airframe.

Typically, saying anything that compromises corporate management will get you fired immediately. Galileo set the standard for speaking out against the establishment. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_Galilei