Universal Salvation: A Whistle-Stop Introduction-Robin Parry

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Gospel Conversations is all about expanding our view of God and that means inquiring into mystery. One of the best ways to inquire is to map out the landscape of a debate-and that is exactly what Robin does in this marvellous talk. He gives us a birds-eye view of the long debate over universalism. But he goes further-and he gives us a map to navigate the territory. He defines what universalism is and is not. He explains the different pathways that have led many orthodox Christians to consider it seriously-Bible, experience, patristics, and ‘gospel logic’. This takes a lot of confusion and heat out of the debate and gives us a clear view of the topic. But it also hints at a bigger view of God, and a broader view of Christian thinking. Robin gives us the gift of years of learning and thought in one hour.
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@simonthompson2764 3 жыл бұрын

Universalism is the only way I can remain a Christian. So big deal for me. Thanks for great talk and your gentle compassion for all people.

@ariahhumphreys 3 жыл бұрын

It's the only way? Jesus is the only way

@lukegaier9490 2 жыл бұрын

Do you mean to say that if God decides to handle things differently then you will not bow to His authority?

@rudyferrell 2 жыл бұрын

Everyone goes to hell by default, and we oh so deserve it. We are wicked creatures compared to Jesus. Our only hope in getting to heaven is Jesus. Jesus said the gate is wide that leads to destruction. He talked about hell a few times, he was a hell fire preacher. But Hitler would really love to hear what you have to say. Justice must be served. The problem is that you don't know the Holiness of the trinity. Hell is real there bud.....if you would stop being in denial would be absolutely astonished at the mercy and grace of God.

@austinhollopeter4206 2 жыл бұрын

@@rudyferrellEven Paul killed Christians before he became Christian. By traditional infernalist belief, Hitler would be saved if he truly repented at the end of his life, so I'm not seeing how universalism negates God's justice. How did God saving everyone through Jesus negate his justice? Nobody is saying you're saved or condemned by works to begin with, so how is unjust if the Second Adam saves all those condemned by the First Adam?

@RMF49 2 жыл бұрын

@@lukegaier9490 Why would anyone bow to an authority that opposes what God describes as righteousness?

@77goanywhere 4 жыл бұрын

What I get from this is that if salvation is based on what one believes, we are all toast, because no two of us "believe" the same way.

@AlexSmith2 4 жыл бұрын

Indeed, we're totally relying on God's grace!

@agsp2012 4 жыл бұрын

SALVATION IS NOT BELIEF! IT IS ALL ACCOMPLISHED BY THE CROSS AND RESURRECTION IN OUR SPIRITS!!!

@grace_alone_toward_repentance 2 жыл бұрын

But that isn't true, because there's only one doctrine of Christ, one bible, and one way. Every other way outside the Bible and what it literally describes about hell is not of God and it's demonic. Anything outside of what the Bible tells you about hell is from hell. If you believe in anything outside of what scripture says, then you have a demon deceiving you. Hell is real and it's absolutely horrific, and it is for eternity. Period. And you can't see that literally nobody believes the same thing, because I go to a true Bible believing Church where everybody believes the same thing, and we take the scriptures just as they are given. Some of them are given in a metaphorical sense for you to understand spiritually, but most of them are literal. Only the places where it's mentioned as being a parable is a parable, the rest of its literal. The Bible warns us about those who deceive themselves and heap unto themselves false teachers in the last days, in the last days have been here for about 50 years, which is why this stupid, demonic doctrine of universal salvation crept in the church. It's false! Great will be there reward of destruction!

@avid_dreamer_productions Жыл бұрын

That’s what God has said since the beginning and which Calvinism elucidated over 500 years ago

@rdaleyj1 Жыл бұрын

During this age men have butchered and twisted the truth in the scriptures so bad that everyone believes that whatever doctrine they have is the right one, but after judgment Day when the world gives account for their sins, God will correct and then begin teaching everyone his ways instead of all the different beliefs that men have conjured up in this world.

@TheHumbuckerboy 4 жыл бұрын

Robin is surely one of the most knowledgeable and articulate of Christian Universalists of these times.

@GospelConversations 4 жыл бұрын

Amen!

@ecumenismwherearewe9571 3 жыл бұрын

How do answer Luke 16.26?

@ecumenismwherearewe9571 3 жыл бұрын

@@GospelConversations Luke 16.26 plainly rules out Universalism

@TheHumbuckerboy 3 жыл бұрын

@@ecumenismwherearewe9571 Well, my answer wouldn't be as good as the in depth explanations that scholarly theologians have presented over the previous centuries through to current days. My advice is that you check out some of the better books that advocate Christian Universalism; there are quite a few to choose from. One important thing to realise is that Luke 16 v 26 is dealing with a parable and is not to be understood as being literal .

@StevenGreenGuz 3 жыл бұрын

@@ecumenismwherearewe9571 , He deals with that here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o86qd7pkz7q9pKs.html

@glenclary3231 6 ай бұрын

Excellent talk! Recovering infernalist here. Keep up the good work.

@paxonearth Жыл бұрын

I think one reason people are so reluctant to give up the idea of everlasting hell is because they are counting on all the people they don't like being there.

@marcusmuse4787 11 ай бұрын

so, it could be hate that's keeping them believing in eternal conscious torment?

@callmepistol 7 ай бұрын

or elitism

@todd92371 4 ай бұрын

Or the thought of those we loved being there.

@thanevakarian9762 3 ай бұрын

Ehhh I don’t want anyone to go to hell and I still haven’t been convinced. I’ve listened to and read so much on this subject. All the verses, all the word studies about aionius and the refiners fire etc. The thing I don’t understand is why has God or the Holy Spirit allowed ect to become the standard belief if it’s not true? Theres reasons people give and there’s speculation as to why but I can’t bring myself to be more than a hopeful universalist.

@todd92371 3 ай бұрын

@@thanevakarian9762 I used to think about all of this stuff a lot. I know now that the love of God is so infinite. So forgiving. And so full of graciousness. Seek Him with all your heart and all the rest will follow. God bless.

@traildude7538 7 ай бұрын

The first time I encountered Christian universalism was in university at a Campus Crusade for Christ Christmas Conference; it was an offshoot of a debate about free will versus predestination. The objection was raised that if God will save everyone then why have Campus Crusade for Christ? I'd learned ancient Greek already and set myself to searching the Greek New Testament on the subject, but then the pressure of classes and especially finals pushed the question out of my mind and I forgot about it for years. Then I encountered it in St. Gregory of Nyssa . . . and here I am thinking about it again!

@TorrinCooper 3 жыл бұрын

Great teaching!

@ecumenismwherearewe9571 3 жыл бұрын

Luke 16.26?

@juozapasjurksa1400 3 жыл бұрын

@@ecumenismwherearewe9571 Parable, not true story about afterlife

@JoeySehn 2 жыл бұрын

@@ecumenismwherearewe9571 read Her Gates Shall Never Be Shut, it deals with the parable beautifully

@johnturner170 Жыл бұрын

Excellent, thank you!

@claysindledecker6476 Жыл бұрын

It’s a funny contrast we carry about God A loving Father who gave everything to get His children back. A God of pure love On the other end…a selective vengeful send you to an eternal hell fire then no remorse kind of God I think God will do as He pleases and I believe He desires for no one to perish. I know for me personally that I didn’t choose God but He chose me

@maruscatarabella9623 2 жыл бұрын

I love this quote from Rumi " The truth was a mirrow in the hands of God. It fell, and broke into pieces. Everybody took a piece of it, and they looked at it and thought they had the truth " I love it because i perceived from it that the truth it is in myriad ways.. and a saved soul it is always looking for more pieces to the mirrow.

@colinmurphy4403 2 жыл бұрын

1Co 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. 2Co 4:3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:2Co 4:4 In whom the god of this world ( SATAN )hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. 2Th 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:2Th 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. Tit 1:15 Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.Tit 1:16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate. 1Pe 4:17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?1Pe 4:18 And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?1Pe 4:19 Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator. Act 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;Act 3:20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:Act 3:21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began. Act 3:22 For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you. Act 3:23 And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people. Act 3:24 Yea, and all the prophets from Samuel and those that follow after, as many as have spoken, have likewise foretold of these days. Act 3:25 Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed. Act 3:26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities. 2Pe 3:3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,2Pe 3:4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. 2Pe 3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:2Pe 3:6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:2Pe 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. 2Pe 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 2Pe 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 2Pe 3:11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,2Pe 3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?2Pe 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.2Pe 3:14.Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.

@maruscatarabella9623 Жыл бұрын

@@colinmurphy4403 What do you mean replying to my comment with all those Bible verses? 🤔

@colinmurphy439 Жыл бұрын

@@maruscatarabella9623 The dude talking believes that all mankind will be saved without converting from evil deeds! Universalism is the biggest lie manufactured by the Devil, that's based from those verses I've sent to you!

@colinmurphy4403 Жыл бұрын

@@maruscatarabella9623 Robin Parry is a heretic, he believes that all mankind will be saved without converting from evil deeds, or even being born of the Spirit! V Jhn 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. Jhn 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.Jhn 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. Jhn 3:8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

@plasmodesma7569 8 ай бұрын

@@maruscatarabella9623he believes that God must torture some of His children forEVER, in order to magnify His love for the “chosen” children. Instead of talking with you, he’s misusing scripture to say you’re the child God will burn and torture forever, and he’s the child that God chose. Isn’t that a wonderful picture of a merciful God - isn’t that a great understanding of how limited Jesus’ sacrifice was? Sarcasm…

@raffi3dm402 6 күн бұрын

“Hell is meant to serve as an echo of the infinite value of the glory of God, such that if you turn away from the glory of God as your treasure and your life and embrace the broken cisterns of the world, hell defines the heinousness of that sin and the greatness of that glory.” John Piper, The Echo and the Insufficiency of Hell

@maruscatarabella9623 2 жыл бұрын

How could be possible be an "eternal" hell.. when only God is Eternal and as long as God is Eternal so is His Love and Mercy and Life which eventually will reach hell itself ... do i make sense?

@OperationReapSinners777 Жыл бұрын

There will be not eternal hell, don't you know anything about the second death?

@JohnGodwin777 Жыл бұрын

Whatever God wills is done, nothing is impossible for him. What does His word say? “If anyone worships the beast . . . he will be tormented with fire and sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever” (Revelation 14:9-11).

@OperationReapSinners777 Жыл бұрын

@@JohnGodwin777 Forever and ever is not in the Hebrew text, only the second death. There is no coming back from the second death by fire and brimstone, because there is no third resurrection mentioned in all of scripture. Don't you know anything about the second death? There is a second type of death in scripture that is different from spiritual death, and physical death we experience in this life. The second death this is known as eternal death. In the Book of Revelation we read. V The one who has an ear, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches. The one who overcomes will not be hurt at all by the second death (Revelation 2:11). Unless spiritual death is reversed in this life, the result will be eternal death. This is unending separation between God and all who reject Him. Believers are not affected by the second death. V Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with Him for a thousand years (Revelation 20:6). The final judgment, or the lake of fire, is the time when the second death occurs. V Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death (Revelation 20:14). The second death is reserved for unbelievers. Those who experience this death are all those whose names are not found written in the Book of Life. V But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars - their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death (Revelation 21:8). Eternal death, or the second death, is the ultimate form of separation. If a person dies in a state of spiritual death, they enter eternity separated from God. This is the second death. Once a person has experienced the "second death" there is no hope for them, it is irreversible. Physical death is the separation of the body from the spirit. Spiritual death, the way all of us are born, is the spiritual separation of each of us from God. Eternal death, or the second death, is the eternal separation of a person from God. Luk 13:23 Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them,Luk 13:24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able. Luk 13:25 When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are:Luk 13:26 Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets. Luk 13:27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity. Luk 13:28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out. Luk 13:29 And they shall come from the east, and from the west, and from the north, and from the south, and shall sit down in the kingdom of God.

@alllivesmatter5324 Жыл бұрын

The Good News is that Jesus does not save, "Jesus Saved" everyone over two thousand years ago. No one goes to hell, and no one is punished.

@Okieshowedem 3 жыл бұрын

May Father YAHweh bless your understanding.

@ecumenismwherearewe9571 3 жыл бұрын

Luke 16.26?

@Okieshowedem 3 жыл бұрын

May Father YAHweh bless your understanding and forgive "your" sins.

@AlexSmith2 4 жыл бұрын

I've started transcribing this talk here: reforminghell.com/robin-parrys-hope-hell-videos/

@GospelConversations 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for doing that!

@mlmiletti Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this work. Blessings

@SpacePonder 2 ай бұрын

One thing I think about if people are eternally separated from God then that would mean satan wins somewhat.

@mattr.1887 Жыл бұрын

Christian universalists, where do you stand on political and cultural issues? I am pretty far right myself. But universal reconciliation makes the most sense to me. Maybe I am some weird anomaly though, lol.

@jfd6938 Жыл бұрын

Me too brother❤

@kensey007 9 ай бұрын

I don't see how universalism would have any relation to politics.

@benandolga Ай бұрын

Christians stand for what is Right but what is right according to the Bible! But not always Right leaning ideology be a scripturally align!

@traildude7538 7 ай бұрын

Question: isn't apokatastasis a combination: apo + kata + stasis? How does it get from there to the meaning given here?

@elderfarleybeaversotherspr2811 3 жыл бұрын

First Resurrection is for The Elect: Last Resurrection is Universal as it includes The Living and The Dead !!! This Change from mortal to Immortal and This Corruption Puts on Incorruption; Makes worthy to Bear The Image of Christ and Therefore worthy to To be in The Presence of GOD+ Christ will have rendered the Kingdom(Power) back to The Father !!!

@Rev41Tours Жыл бұрын

Interesting thought

@plasmodesma7569 8 ай бұрын

Yeah the very straightforward resurrection timeline seems to be overlooked consistently, in order to maintain modern understandings of “rapture” and “hell” and “lake of fire”.

@ronaldmoore6707 3 ай бұрын

Look at the orders of resurrections in I. Cor. 15, that ALL experience , "every mankind in their own ORDER." There you will see ALL enemies subdued under His feet shall be delivered up to Father to be "all in all," that is all He is in ALL His former enemies.

@jaymarcum333 11 ай бұрын

The volume is low. I sure like to hear it. I love the material.

@charmander777 2 жыл бұрын

I think there will still be people who rather burn in hell 🔥 for eternity than be with God despite God giving them a pathway via universal salvation

@larrygribaudo1092 2 жыл бұрын

Think of how it changed Paul.

@Rev41Tours Жыл бұрын

Impossible, Proof is no one would willingly dive into a pool of lava once they got close enough to realize it’s intensity, right? I mean literally no one. But if they did then even you would have to admit that they were not mentally healthy enough to make the sane choice not to jump and they would need their sanity healed. The other possibility is that the person may be under the influence of a substance that impairs them. So either way neither of those are done from free will.

@heavybar3850 Жыл бұрын

nobody wants to be literally on fire for an infinite amount of time

@charmander777 Жыл бұрын

@heavybar3850 there are souls who are demonic and eternally unrepentant

@claysindledecker6476 Жыл бұрын

@@charmander777so it’s impossible for God to save some people? Gods love isn’t more powerful than their hate? Hmmmm

@hispoiema 7 ай бұрын

What about the thought of the Jews being the elect who needed to be born again in order to bring God and salvation to the rest of us? And the uncircumcised Jews being not Israel who are of Israel but eventually all Israel being saved.

@tommywarren4633 Жыл бұрын

As I have stated many times,

@maruscatarabella9623 2 жыл бұрын

If truly, that focusing on Love, ( as as a person claimed here) it is not right.. then maybe there are 2 Gods? One is Love and one is Wrath? Can you not see the incoherence??? Christian universalists do not claim that there won't be punishment etc... but that at the end God justice totally balanced with Love and mercy will win, and the chains of hell shall be broken and will let the souls go.... because after all they belong to God and not Satan... including Satans and all the other fallen Angels.... they are just "working" for God's purpose... which in the end shall be the fulfillment and triumph of the Cross. I think upholding so tighly to the doctrine of everlasting hell and damnation it is upholding Satan and hell itself... giving hell the right to exist when it has no right to exist... because all thing belong to God, and there is and will be nothing outside God, He is Sovereign ... Satan is not sovereign and it is not in possession of hell, God is... how can people not see it?

@allanandrews8192 2 ай бұрын

Excellent

@psikozplan 3 жыл бұрын

It’s all about the perfection of His Bride

@CerealDust-nStuff 3 жыл бұрын

The Bride of Christ and the Body of Christ are two completely different things.

@JonTopping 2 жыл бұрын

@@CerealDust-nStuff Mind clarifying this point? Would it be something like the focus on what "bride" means is the elect, while the "body" analogy is the purpose of the elect? Or are you saying it's two different groups in some sense?

@CerealDust-nStuff 2 жыл бұрын

@@JonTopping Two completely different groups. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ebp9oN2h2LnQgXk.html

@teachmetruth3539 Жыл бұрын

⁠@@CerealDust-nStuff”The bride of Christ and the body of Christ are 2 completely different things” ???? How are they 2 completely different things when the body of Christ is the bride of Christ??

@CerealDust-nStuff Жыл бұрын

@@teachmetruth3539 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ebp9oN2h2LnQgXk.html

@rdaleyj1 Жыл бұрын

The only reason why the gospel is preached in this age is to gather the holy priesthood that God is presently getting ready to teach the nations in the New heaven/earth. The gospel is for the called and not for the world. In the coming age the earth will be filled with the gospel.

@maruscatarabella9623 2 жыл бұрын

Also saved by proxi? Paul said about women who abide with unbelieving husband that the unbeliving husband it is santified by the believing wife! I am receiving so many other "revelations" on universalism that i should write them all down it is a real inpiration when I get this revelations. 😊

@MrBully1967 Жыл бұрын

Paul was saying that the annulling of marriages that was necessary under Judaism (such as in Ezra and Nehemiah after the exile) is no longer necessary. The intermarriage between the priestly and kingly family trees before the Flood led to the end of sacrifices and a multiplication of human bloodshed. The circumcision kept the sacrifices safe (mostly). But Jesus’ sacrifice needs no protection. The Jew-Gentile divide is gone. So this relates to the universal OBLIGATION of all people to repent and believe, not to universal salvation.

@zelenisok 2 жыл бұрын

whats that pronunciation /accent of apokatastasis haha, aPOka-tastasis, i went to an eastern orthodox seminary, we always pronounced it apo-kata-stAHsis..

@seanhebebrand7611 Жыл бұрын

Eleventh minute..."EXPERIENCE"?! NUMBER ONE SIGN HE'S FULL OF IT.

@ba.anderson 5 ай бұрын

The scriptures declare that all of creation was made subject to vanity (futility KJV) against its will. - See Rom8:20. Why wouldn't he later likewise influence their belief in His word? Is this not a sign of mercy? Creation is bound to disobedience/unbelief until repentance is granted! (See Rom11:32 & 2Tim2:25)

@JohnGodwin777 Жыл бұрын

Did this guy really talk for hour about the issue of salvation without quoting a single Bible verse? Makes sense.

@kensey007 9 ай бұрын

There is another video after this that goes into the hermeneutics in detail.

@incorectulpolitic 2 жыл бұрын

What about this?: ◄ Matthew 25 ►41Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: 42For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: 43I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. 44Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? 45Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. 46And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal. ..

@zelenisok Жыл бұрын

Eternal there is wrongly translated, the correct translation is "fire of the age", "chastisment of the age", "life of the age", meaning those things will happen in the future age, it doesnt actually say anything about the length. The length is life will be eternal and punishment temporary, as implied by the various verses which talk about universal salvation. That is why various of the main Greek Church Fathers were universalists, they read the Bible in the original language of the texts. Augustine and Jerome and others in the West read the wrongly translated latin text and spread infernalism.

@Rev41Tours Жыл бұрын

The risen Christ is all knowing. So Jesus is saying that false identity I don’t know will flee like chaff. And then the true identity He created will become manifest, the true you that He knew from the beginning

@colinmurphy6000 3 жыл бұрын

Psa 7:11 God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked every day. Psa 34:15 The eyes of the LORD are upon the righteous, and his ears are open unto their cry. Psa 34:16 The face of the LORD is against them that do evil, to cut off the remembrance of them from the earth. 1Pe 3:11 Let him eschew evil, and do good; let him seek peace, and ensue it. 1Pe 3:12 For the eyes of the Lord are over the righteous, and his ears are open unto their prayers: but the face of the Lord is against them that do evil. Gal 6:7 BE NOT DECEIVED; GOD IS NOT MOCKED: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. Gal 6:8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. Gal 6:9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not. Mat 16:24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. Mat 16:25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it. Mat 16:26 For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul? Mat 16:27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works. Mat 13:36 Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: AND HIS DISCIPLES CAME UNTO HIM, SAYING, DECLARE UNTO US THE PARABLE OF THE TARES OF THE FIELD. Mat 13:37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;Mat 13:38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;Mat 13:39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. Mat 13:40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. Mat 13:41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; Mat 13:42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Mat 13:43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear. Mat 13:47 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind: Mat 13:48 Which, when it was full, they drew to shore, and sat down, and gathered the good into vessels, but cast the bad away. Mat 13:49 So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just, Mat 13:50 And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Mat 13:51 Jesus saith unto them, Have ye understood all these things? They say unto him, Yea, Lord.

@RMF49 2 жыл бұрын

The verses you quoted are all true. But you think they are the end of the story. They are not. This is the end of the story: For behold I bring you glad tidings of great joy and it SHALL BE TO ALL PROPLE.

@colinmurphy6000 2 жыл бұрын

@@RMF49 Prophecy is bound to be fulfilled! I don't want to burst your bubble, but this is it! V Isa 66:22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain. Isa 66:23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD. Isa 66:24 And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh. Psa 37:9 For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth. Psa 37:10 For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be: yea, thou shalt diligently consider his place, and it shall not be. Psa 37:11 But the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace. Psa 37:18 The LORD knoweth the days of the upright: and their inheritance shall be for ever. Psa 37:19 They shall not be ashamed in the evil time: and in the days of famine they shall be satisfied. Psa 37:20 But the wicked shall perish, and the enemies of the LORD shall be as the fat of lambs: they shall consume; into smoke shall they consume away. 2Pe 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 2Pe 3:11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,2Pe 3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? 2Pe 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.2Pe 3:14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless. 1Th 5:1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. 1Th 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. 1Th 5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. 1Th 5:4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.1Th 5:5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness. 1Th 5:6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober. 1Th 5:7 For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.1Th 5:8 But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.

@RMF49 2 жыл бұрын

@@colinmurphy6000 Yes all prophesy will be fulfilled including what you quoted. The prodigal son was wicked, dead, lost, perished, destroyed (apollumi) yet he was saved by God’s grace and mercy when he turned to the Lord with all his heart. As all will. ALL the ends of the world shall remember and turn unto the Lord: and ALL the kindreds of the nations shall worship before thee. For the kingdom is the Lord's: and he is the governor among the nations. ALL they that be fat upon earth shall eat and worship: ALL they that go down to the dust shall bow before him: and NONE can keep alive his own soul.

@colinmurphy6000 2 жыл бұрын

@@RMF49 The case of the prodigal son he repented! There is a condition that sinners must meet concerning salvation, or face burning fire unquenchable!!! V Luk 3:6 And all flesh shall see the salvation of God.Luk 3:7 Then said he to the multitude that came forth to be baptized of him, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?Luk 3:8 Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance, and begin not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, That God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham. Luk 3:9 And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: every tree therefore which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Luk 3:10 And the people asked him, saying, What shall we do then?Luk 3:11 He answereth and saith unto them, He that hath two coats, let him impart to him that hath none; and he that hath meat, let him do likewise. Luk 3:12 Then came also publicans to be baptized, and said unto him, Master, what shall we do?Luk 3:13 And he said unto them, Exact no more than that which is appointed you. Luk 3:14 And the soldiers likewise demanded of him, saying, And what shall we do? And he said unto them, Do violence to no man, neither accuse any falsely; and be content with your wages. Luk 3:15 And as the people were in expectation, and all men mused in their hearts of John, whether he were the Christ, or not;Luk 3:16 John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire:Luk 3:17 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and will gather the wheat into his garner; but the chaff he will burn with fire unquenchable.

@RMF49 2 жыл бұрын

@@colinmurphy6000 Exactly he repented. All will turn to the Lord as I quoted in my prior comment. The prophecies you quoted are all about the day of judgement, Jesus coming as a thief in the night, the destruction of the wide gate, the Day of the Lord. All true. The Book of Joel also describes the Day if the Lord - and there is repentance and salvation possible once the Day of the Lord is come as Joel describes. In Deuteronomy 30 there is again repentance and salvation possible after the curse and destruction of the wide gate is upon a soul. So the prophecies you are quoting are true but not the end of the story. This is the end of the story: Every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. Surely shall they say “in Him I have righteousness and strength”.

@JoshuaDCBanks 2 жыл бұрын

Greatest theologian about universalism on origen…”he’s a dude”. Lol

@rossjpurdy Жыл бұрын

There was a wide variety of Universalists throughout church history so it is justified. Well, that makes a wacked idea historical but does not commend its truth content...at all.

@colinmurphy4403 2 жыл бұрын

Warning ⚠️ do not leave it at the last minute to repent the evil activity you were doing when you are facing annihilation! Be born again of the Spirit and walk in newness of life, live righteously! 1Co 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. 2Co 4:3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:2Co 4:4 In whom the god of this world ( SATAN )hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. 2Th 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:2Th 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. Tit 1:15 Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.Tit 1:16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate. 1Pe 4:17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?1Pe 4:18 And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?1Pe 4:19 Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator. Act 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;Act 3:20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:Act 3:21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began. Act 3:22 For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you. Act 3:23 And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people. Act 3:24 Yea, and all the prophets from Samuel and those that follow after, as many as have spoken, have likewise foretold of these days. Act 3:25 Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed. Act 3:26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities. 2Pe 3:3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,2Pe 3:4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. 2Pe 3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:2Pe 3:6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:2Pe 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. 2Pe 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 2Pe 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 2Pe 3:11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,2Pe 3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?2Pe 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.2Pe 3:14.Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.

@tommywarren4633 Жыл бұрын

As I have stated many times we would not be talkin about hell if you would read the true scriptures, there is no hell in the true Hebrew or Greek, Jesus never said it his apostles never taught it neither did Paul, hell is not even a translation it's a plane out substitution, it makes as much sense to call the valley of the Son of hinnom hell, as it would to call Central Park in New York City, hell, Peter talk the restoration of all things acts,3.21, and so did the apostle Paul all through the scriptures.

@Okieshowedem 3 жыл бұрын

May Father YAHweh forgive you of your sins

@colinmurphy4403 3 жыл бұрын

Jesus warned us that there will be many false teachers among us, as well as false prophets! Put God first in everything you do because death can come at any time! To die without making peace with God is the worse thing that can happen to anyone! Because the next time your eyes be open if you are dead, you will find yourself at the judgement seat of God! We all have to stand before God oneday! V 2Co 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad. 2Co 5:11 Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences. Isa 45:22-23 Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else. I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear. v Rom 14:10-13 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God. So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God. Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way. v Mar 6:11 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city. Mat 12:36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. Mat 12:37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned. Dan 7:9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire. Dan 7:10 A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the BOOKS WERE OPENED. Rev 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; AND THE BOOKS WERE OPENED: AND ANOTHER BOOK WAS OPENED, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. Rev 20:15 AND WHOSOEVER WAS NOT FOUND WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE WAS CAST INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE. 1Pe 4:14 If ye be reproached for the name of Christ, happy are ye; for the spirit of glory and of God resteth upon you: on their part he is evil spoken of, but on your part he is glorified. 1Pe 4:15 But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, or as an evildoer, or as a busybody in other men's matters. 1Pe 4:16 Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf. 1Pe 4:17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God? 1Pe 4:18 And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear? 1Pe 4:19 Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator. 2Pe 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. 2Pe 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 2Pe 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 2Pe 3:11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 2Pe 3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? 2Pe 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. 2Pe 3:14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.

@OperationReapSinners777 3 жыл бұрын

@@anahata3478 Wow what is it with the foul language? Are you not a Christian? Do you not respect the word of God?

@colinmurphy4403 3 жыл бұрын

@@anahata3478 Calling the word of God, shit. You better repent!

@juozapasjurksa1400 3 жыл бұрын

"Jesus warned us that there will be many false teachers among us, as well as false prophets! " How I can be sure that you aren't a false teacher? 😉

@colinmurphy4403 3 жыл бұрын

@@juozapasjurksa1400 Just read the scriptures they speak for it's self.

@colinmurphy4403 3 жыл бұрын

@@juozapasjurksa1400 1Co 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. 2Co 4:3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:2Co 4:4 In whom the god of this world ( SATAN )hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. 2Th 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:2Th 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. Tit 1:15 Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.Tit 1:16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate. 1Pe 4:17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?1Pe 4:18 And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?1Pe 4:19 Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator. Act 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;Act 3:20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:Act 3:21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began. Act 3:22 For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you. Act 3:23 And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people. Act 3:24 Yea, and all the prophets from Samuel and those that follow after, as many as have spoken, have likewise foretold of these days. Act 3:25 Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed. Act 3:26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities. 2Pe 3:3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,2Pe 3:4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. 2Pe 3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:2Pe 3:6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:2Pe 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. 2Pe 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 2Pe 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 2Pe 3:11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,2Pe 3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?2Pe 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.2Pe 3:14.Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.

@michelferreira9695 3 жыл бұрын

Universalism is so vague, without a true doctrine and representation, without objectivity, requiring a vast mental gymnastic to talk about something simple or to interpret the bible in a completely different sense. Either I completely got the bible wrong, or these universalist are very sophisticated in understanding the bible in the way that the majority does not. I'm seeing lots of New Age participants following this theological view, lots of people that never took Christianity right, I'm even seeing women teaching this thing at youtube, using terms like "you are love, like God is love, nothing you do can take you away from God", this kind of thing that bring subjectivity about things that are NOT in the bible, but at New Age and other sects, ideas too focused on love (that seems empty), and less focused on Holiness and Wrath and other biblical subjects. Universalism theology is 'pick and choose', cherrypicking. They discard lots of other contexts and even theological works. I don't have all the knowledge to debate this subject, but I feel in the bottom of my hearth that it's wrong. It's like reversed Gnosticism where people can't cope with God's wrath, with hell, with eternal suffering, with the second death. I'll trust my gut in this matter and say to myself: Stay away from this weird fog-like amorphous doctrine.

@maruscatarabella9623 2 жыл бұрын

If truly is true that focusing on Love it is not right.. then maybe there are 2 Gods? One is Love and one is Wrath? Can you not see the incoherence??? Universalist do not claim that there won't be punishment etc... but that at the end God justice totally balanced with Love will win, and the chains of hell hell shall be broke loose and let the souls go.... becuse after all they belong to God and not Satan... including Satans and all the other fallen Angels.... they are just "working" for God's purpose... which in the end shall be the fulfillment and triumph of the Cross. I think upholding so tighly to the doctrine of everlasting hell and damnation it is upholding Satan and hell itself... giving hell the right to exist when it has no right to exist... because all thing belong to God, and there is and will be nothing outside God, He is Sovereign ... Satan is not sovereign and it is not in possession of hell, God is... how can people not see it?

@michelferreira9695 2 жыл бұрын

@@maruscatarabella9623 There's a very good video called "Please give 30 mins to learn what the Bible, Jesus and Christianity are actually all about" by Tim Mackie, one of collaborators of Bible Project. Mackie is not an Universalist, but a bible scholar, and he teaches well about this issue about Hell and a loving god. I'm telling about this video because Tim harmonizes perfectly about what you said in your comment with the idea of hell. Indeed, hell will not prevail.

@Rev41Tours Жыл бұрын

Vague? Maybe the need for knowing stems from the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil… maybe

@marcusmuse4787 11 ай бұрын

"His mercy endures forever", (that's not vague). This is good and acceptable in the sight of our God our savior, Who will have ALL men to be saved, and to come to the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus: Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.” (1 Tim. 2:3-6, KJV)

@joannalawrence7753 5 ай бұрын

Any theology is a pick and choose theology. What we don't realize is that many people have gone before us in our faith tradition that did the picking and choosing. Our beliefs seem obvious only because we weren't there when our faith tradition was being formed. Within the major Christian faiths, there are very, very few points that we can agree on. And yet we all read (mostly) the same bible.

@volodymyrvolf3889 4 жыл бұрын

1:29-sign of goat, tribute to satan and placing curse on people, watch his left hand! This man can't stop his hands like magician while performing! 12 A naughty person, a wicked man, walketh with a froward mouth. 13 He winketh with his eyes, he speaketh with his feet, he teacheth with his fingers; 14 Frowardness is in his heart, he deviseth mischief continually; he soweth discord. Proverbs 6: 12-14

@Quidisi 4 жыл бұрын

Wow. What a work you are. You'll grow-up and grow out of it though, but for our sakes, I hope it comes quickly.

@RMF49 2 жыл бұрын

You’re a Volf in Volf’s clothing.

@TheycallmeSkywalker 8 ай бұрын

Lolwut