This match is the reason why there should be a time limit in the bonuses. While it's obviously a strategy to keep the lead, it irritated me very much how the winner kept stalling from the very beginning. The only time I saw them answering quickly was in the last question when all was done and dusted.
@freddiethecutestcavapoo91847 ай бұрын
Completely agree. I've said for years that there should be a proper "clock" for answering bonus questions.
@sharanyaray24547 ай бұрын
@@freddiethecutestcavapoo9184 also if you see Harrison at the Gong, he is dejected. I don't think I have ever seen a participant so disappointed and rightfully so because the opponents took their own sweet time.
@WynneCandy6 ай бұрын
Very poor sportsmanship.
@cornbeef6 ай бұрын
I completely agree with you, but I would say that both teams were using the same tactic here. As you said though, by the last questions they were rushing so much. This is what it should be like on all the bonus questions. There should be a 10 or 15 second limit. Time to discuss but not enough time to go "Hmm, what 17th Century battles do we know. Well, there's this, that, this that. Oh it could be that. No, that was early 17th. Wait, what did he say, Russian? Oh it can't be that. Hmmm"
@rodrigomarinho18077 ай бұрын
The trigonometry question was the defining point of the episode, as was the rat/bat. I don't see the winners going to the semis...
@slightlygrouchy7 ай бұрын
Thank you so much CosmicP! You rule! As for the match, initially I liked Christchurch, but I found their almost endless discussions towards the end, and their total ignoring of pleas to speed up blatantly unfair and unsportspersonlike! I have never felt like that about this type of behaviour before. But they really took the biscuit! it wasn't even as if they were actually involved in substantial discussions. The chatter was just filled with hollow, meaningless blah blah! And yes, I am aware that Emmanuel at times went painfully slowly about things, too. But Christ Church was just playing for time! Boo!
@adamdodda32757 ай бұрын
I agree, I was praying on the comback of Emmanuel, and the random discussion when they clearly didn't know was infuriating
@TaraKelly-wh8qf7 ай бұрын
I agree. I'd like to think it was just lack of awareness but Amol repeatedly reminds them and even threatens to end their time and they still don't change.
@TaraKelly-wh8qf7 ай бұрын
On a positive note it looks like Dean has a bop before answering the music question 15:30
@richardfamous64667 ай бұрын
It’s very frustrating to watch the team in the lead conferring leisurely on questions they can’t answer late in the game. There seems to be a premise that everyone will act in good faith. I wonder if teams are coached to stall with a lead late in the game.
@jeffg.61107 ай бұрын
With this set-up, the perception of “gaming the system” is inevitable. That’s why you can’t blame the team in the lead; the fault is with the producers/rules. The show needs to add a :15 or :20 timer so there’s never any question of a team intentionally delaying to waste time, or of the moderator being too lenient or too strict in the amt of time he allows them. Start the clock when he finishes reading; turn the numbers red when it hits 5 seconds; sound a buzzer at 0:00. It removes any question of perceived inequities.
@brian48117 ай бұрын
In almost any competition or sport, knowing how to use the clock is skill in itself so I wouldn’t blame a team for using it to their advantage. Would agree there should clear time limits but Christ Church “parked the bus” very well in fairness
@PS-vm3we7 ай бұрын
Has anyone accusing teams of stalling actually timed it?
@christopherjohnpain40157 ай бұрын
They understandably went to the corner flag.
@dfar59907 ай бұрын
Both teams dithered endlessly over the bonus questions, I don't think the winning team is to blame or slowed down the pace late in the game. A very frustrating watch throughout.
@jayguerero477 ай бұрын
Dean isn't the type who knows much esoteric stock knowledge but she really makes excellent use of deductive analysis -- like her answers "Sky", "Bat", and "Trigonometry". She isn't afraid to trust her hunch, which means also risking points. But the payoff was worth it. Rooted for Emmanuel but self-doubts took over in this match: like saying "It might be a trap" which only triggered analysis paralysis -- destructive in a time-constrained game.
@emmapeel8297 ай бұрын
Well that was stressful! I feel sorry for the losing team but they did their best. Thanks, as always, CP for your great efforts. Most appreciated.
@shaunkirk63857 ай бұрын
It continues to baffle me that there’s no formal timer for conferring. Hearing the host say ‘Come on,’ repeatedly is annoying, and there’s no real consequence for repeated offences. There should be a timer that starts and which counts for the duration of the bonuses. If a team runs out of time before all the questions are completed, they forfeit the score. That’s one idea that could work.
@gabsymalone63077 ай бұрын
Close it was; vintage it was not - that's the lowest joint score this series - bonus rates of 11/24 and 13/30, along with much more discussion time than as of late I think contributed to that (can't judge if the questions in this particular match were harder than any of the last few). Still nice for the winners that the buzzing was more spread - not sure at all on future prospects but they're in the dance for now at least. Also surprised that Mr Wotton's 9 starters in Christ Church's first game weren't mentioned as well?
@ianleslie69717 ай бұрын
Thank you for posting this great challenge, marvelous.
@lealbrazil7 ай бұрын
wonderful episode, both teams are fabulous. What spectacle of intelligence and culture
@chrishobbs587 ай бұрын
Thanks again, CosmicPumpkin! What a match this was. And decided by one wrong answer by the losing team. As Rajan himself said, that word will pain them for a long time. As usual, I listened to each team member's field of study from the introduction by both teams, and then guessed who would be the eventual winner. Also as usual, I was wrong. They say insanity is defined by doing the same thing over and over, yet expecting a different result. Oh well. It's a real shame these teams had to meet when they did. Both teams and each individual can be proud of their performance in this match. My best to all of them.
@nope2dat7 ай бұрын
I think university challenge might have an unofficial policy to pit oxbridge colleges against each other in early rounds and thereby avoid an all oxbridge final and the accusations of elitism that would produce in the media. They’ve already set a limit on only 3 colleges from each entering a team per year
@chrishobbs587 ай бұрын
What? When did that happen? @@nope2dat
@raul02767 ай бұрын
Christ Church Lowe was the best part of the episode hands down
@mimikal75486 ай бұрын
No doubt
@martinmason50087 ай бұрын
Ditto, thanks CP. Brit in Michigan, really enjoying this. Delighted with how Amol has already put his stamp on the show.
@jessicaellina38787 ай бұрын
Not too impressed by either team this week....a certain spark missing between the players. Far too much dithering and stalling by both teams, especially Christ Church.l agree that there should be a time out warning during conferring. However, great to see how each team tackles the questions each week. Thanks for keeping us entertained!
@acediscovery7 ай бұрын
Totally agree!
@krishdesai97767 ай бұрын
Christ Church should be ashamed of their obvious stalling tactics. If I were one of the organizers, I would disqualify them for what was a clear lack of sportsmanship.
@dondesmond79697 ай бұрын
They should get time if they're discussing options, not just a general call out as to wheter they've even got an educated guess that takes more than a couple of second. That also does them the favour of not highlighting their lack of clues, better all round just to move on.
@jameshogan61427 ай бұрын
Yes I thought the leisurely pace of conferring was at odds with the brisk progression we had come to expect since the new presenter took over . In fairness to him he did threaten to time them out at one stage.
@late86417 ай бұрын
I think it's fair game. The other team should've played better earlier. Why should Christ Church answer immediately and possibly blunder a narrow victory when they can run out the clock? It happens in every sport.
@Andy2kk7 ай бұрын
Very competitive match with a lot of fun questions and damn if wasn't cheering for Emmanuel to get back in the lead at the end.
@marty90117 ай бұрын
Talk about neck-and-neck , wow ! Both great teams. Thank you CP.
@british.scorpion7 ай бұрын
First click of the day...that woke me up😵💫 Anyone else think Wotton was winding the clock down, he pushed it to the limit more than once and was warned about it? They won't get much further, imo. Geometry? Ouch!
@arkdeniz7 ай бұрын
The moat ridiculous thing about the stalling is that you actually deny yourself the chance to score more points. We’ve all seen teams that faff about deliberately in close matches find themselves beaten at the last by a faster buzzer. Better by far to throw yourself straight back into the starters and trust yourself to pick up half of them.
@parkviewmo7 ай бұрын
Thank you CP. I think I got two questions correct, but was shouting at the screen with numerous wong ones!
@jamesr1417 ай бұрын
WORST CASE of stalling I have EVER SEEN.
@tonywilde17097 ай бұрын
I don't wanna brag, but kinda chuffed with a full round on 18th century treaties and conflicts 😂 Quite enjoyed tonight's show, although I do feel both sides would struggle against some of the other opposition we've seen. Mind you, easy to critique from the comfort of my armchair!
@mudpill75097 ай бұрын
Love Harrison's sweater
@russcomp19207 ай бұрын
Sorry Christ Church dawdled much too long for their conferring. It lessened the time for Emmanuel. So wrong and unfair!
@late86417 ай бұрын
I think it's fair game. If they are in the lead, it would be a poor tactical play to answer immediately and possibly hand out the victory to the other team. The other team should've just played better earlier, they have no excuses.
@russcomp19207 ай бұрын
I disagree. That's blatant unsportsmanlike behavior and especially repeatedly ignoring the moderator's requests for them to provide an answer quickly.
@dondesmond79696 ай бұрын
To go down the road of stalling for time or running down the clock would ruin the game completly and be unfair. For instuction on how to behave each team should have to watch all rounds involving Newnham Collage last season.
@Follyys7 ай бұрын
Frustrating watch, this one. I'm all for conferring - a team collaboratively working their way towards an answer is lovely to watch, even if it's just a best guess. But most of the discussions in this match seemed knowingly aimless, as evidenced by many of the wildly off-base guesses. Did *any* of the extended conferring eventually bring a team to the right answer? Maybe once? Perhaps it was a tactic, perhaps it was a way to appear less ignorant about the question topics, perhaps it's just what their coaches have advised them to do as a rule. Regardless, I much prefer when teams are confident and self-aware enough to admit (quickly) the gaps in their knowledge without pretense. I think it's much more in the spirit of the game.
@havingalook27 ай бұрын
Great round. Thank you for posting.
@ellentronicmistress49697 ай бұрын
Really enjoyed this one. Thanks Cosmic.
@PS-vm3we7 ай бұрын
Wasn't Emmanuel's captain quite slow at giving the answers? It felt there was time wasted just there.
@freddiethecutestcavapoo91847 ай бұрын
Another thank you to CosmicP, my Monday hero!!! Good game. Both teams worthy of a win but I didn't think Cantab (Cambridge!) was quite up to prior form tonight!
@PaulThatcher-iu5in7 ай бұрын
good game, but can you imagine trying to get these people to hurry up when you're late for the train?!
@csl___7 ай бұрын
Good match, although a little too much confereing for my liking. Most of the recent matches have had much faster questions and I prefer that style. Anyway, came here to say I really like Harrison as Q in the last couple of Bond movies.
@SC_Jolly7 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@beemini33747 ай бұрын
Sad at the lack of Gaiman knowledge!
@seadkolasinac72203 ай бұрын
The episode that sparked the deranged right-wing frenzy, targeting a Muslim woman with bogus and laughable claims of anti-Semitism. Thankfully, today she has won in court and the idiots who defamed her have been forced to apologise. (if you can't tell how this comment relates to the episode, then that has proven my point about bizarre and baseless the claims of anti-Semitism were)
@jordanp8157 ай бұрын
Disappointing performance from Emmanuel, I expected big things from them after 1st Round. Neither teams were good enough with the bonus questions. Unfortunately I don't see Christ Church making a push for the victory. Imperial still clear favourites in this tournament IMO, I was hoping to see Emmanuel make a statement tonight.
@sfumato88847 ай бұрын
I favor Edinburgh more to take the series. A final against Imperial would be a dream!
@chrishobbs587 ай бұрын
I would have said Hertford.
@slightlygrouchy7 ай бұрын
Christ Church are the complete and total opposite of the Open University, which would just flatten them.
@gooscarguitar6 ай бұрын
These two predictions have not boded well
@sfumato88846 ай бұрын
@@gooscarguitarYep, I stand corrected 😖
@lembahhijau68627 ай бұрын
Alagar was too slow for a captain.
@seadkolasinac72203 ай бұрын
also arrogant when she is wrong
@kerryosullivan40997 ай бұрын
Does anyone know where I can get Harrison's goose jumper?!
@vig63217 ай бұрын
Bro, Taiwan is an island. Come on now.
@johnahearn79647 ай бұрын
That guy(Sutton!) might’ve been the least knowledgeable contestant in re geography.
@chrishobbs587 ай бұрын
Not to be confused with GPS Zeng for sure@@johnahearn7964
@chicken11177 ай бұрын
hes thinking of countries in that area, and then thinking of the capitals of that country.
@jeff__w6 ай бұрын
The first two bonus questions asked for a “national capital” but the third just asked for “a major city.” Under those conditions, it’s not surprising that the contestants were primed to think in terms of a national capital for the third question as well.
@Ken_oh5456 ай бұрын
Hanoi a surprising answer too
@mojonaut7 ай бұрын
Very annoying to watch. I’d like to see Amol actually start timing teams out rather than just threaten it. As for Amol - feel like he’s getting stronger with each episode
@DragonsEyeTours7 ай бұрын
Thanks
@pedrorochadacunha81297 ай бұрын
PHD in Astrophisics and can't ace astrophysics questions... sheesh...
@hamidjemima84492 ай бұрын
Maybe tensed
@MikedeGarry7 ай бұрын
Lowe didn't get the Christ Church email 'Wear something colourful' 😊
@adelesidaway32507 ай бұрын
WHERE DID HARRISON GET THAT LOVELY JUMPER FROM?
@ArthurKuntsler7 ай бұрын
Amol's BBC2 interview show started up again today, with Ronnie O'Sullivan as his guest.
@TheDarkShenzi4 ай бұрын
It's crazy to me how there is still not a strict time limit for questions in these...
@carnalea24247 ай бұрын
I was amazed that Gorgianeh actually spoke. She said nothing in the previous match
@EddieDuesentrieb7 ай бұрын
Is she trying to be a flag?
@Ken_oh5455 ай бұрын
One might contend she spoke louder than anyone on the screen.
@5lmohy_2326 ай бұрын
When are you going to upload E20?
@ChrisWar6667 ай бұрын
Subs at 24:01 should read Iraq, not Iran, as Iran's capital is Tehran, breaking the question 🙂
@castelodeossos39477 ай бұрын
@@jeffg.6110 Which is what ChrisWar666 points out.
@gooscarguitar7 ай бұрын
The subtitles are taken from BBC iplayer, they're wrong on there too
@akashchowdhury72077 ай бұрын
Me during the whole video 👁️👄👁️
@chelsiewei12325 ай бұрын
I got the most number of questions correct in this one. Managed to make a few guesses (Keats, Augustus) that were somehow correct too. There really seems to be the case of stalling here but I see it more on the team captain, who seemed to need a bit more push to give an answer, compared to the other captains. They should have a policy where if being reminded of time more than twice, there should be a change in captain or introduction of timer.
@isabelwinstanley54457 ай бұрын
Am I the only person to note Amol is using Paxman's pronunciation of Juan.
@charlesclark38407 ай бұрын
Well, it is the one that rhymes in the poem, isn't it?
@philroberts72387 ай бұрын
I'd say it is still the standard *English* pronunciation for not only the character himself but also for all those (the Lotharios and the Casanovas) who share the same behavioural traits. Mozart's opera Don Giovanni, on the other hand, is pronounced and sung in the Italian fashion.
@Nav-gs7br7 ай бұрын
Byron’s pronunciation. Bit of a shibboleth for poetry nerds.
@andrewclifton97727 ай бұрын
@@Nav-gs7br Yes. In the very first verse he rhymes Juan with 'new one' and 'true one.'
@Olivia-cq7tv7 ай бұрын
Actually Amol's and Jeremy's pronunciation of Juan in the context of the Byron poem is the correct one. If you read the poem you can see that in the rhymes that Byron chooses. Also, I believe that it was a deliberate affectation back in those days (we would call it racism nowadays) to pronounce Juan in an unashamedly English fashion, a way of looking down on the Spanish with whom the British were warring on and off for centuries before Byron.
@aliceharuna47 ай бұрын
My score this time was only 50😢
@KH-fp3pu3 ай бұрын
😢 I had a crush on Harrison and now hes out haha #sad
@ERobbins12345 ай бұрын
Yet another question about the box-ticker Lise Meitner.
@Or1gami_4 ай бұрын
I find it very frustrating to watch Christ church take the lead and then stall on bonus questions they know they don't have the answer for...
@britdr7 ай бұрын
The stalling when they were ahead!!! 😮😮😮So dishonest. Disappointed it worked for them.
@lynnstone69983 ай бұрын
❤
@puzzles74133 ай бұрын
The people complaining about stalling may not fully understand the feeling of needing to answer questions under pressure. As a quiz bowl player, I know what it's like when the panic sets in and you just can't make anything escape your mouth. Wotton looked especially like he wanted to be polite and give an answer but couldn't get anything from his brain to his voice (which maybe makes him not the best choice for captain, but that's a different issue). No one will see this because I'm three months late but I'd like to complain about people complaining anyway.
@seadkolasinac72203 ай бұрын
Alagar is pretty arrogant despite being wrong. I like how she shut down Harrison for suggesting Breda as a Dutch city, with her claiming it isn't Dutch...
@scoopsmcgoops6 ай бұрын
Not saying anything that hasn’t been said by other comments, but this one felt very painful and almost unwatchable at times. The quality of this entire show would skyrocket if teams had like a 10 second timer on conferring. In the meantime, it’s an agonizing way to watch a close match turn into a deliberate stall-fest by the winning team 😔 Edit: I also feel like Paxman wouldn’t have let this episode go down like this. I like Rajan a lot but yeesh man. Fewer “come on”s and more “Sorry, took too long”s would make this episode feel more fair.
@ratwest4 ай бұрын
Just out of interest, why is Dave Garda not posting these still. ??
@lachlanstory99294 ай бұрын
Don Jew-an 💀
@Majoofi6 ай бұрын
The most egregious stalling I've seen.
@Gwydda7 ай бұрын
Both teams kept stalling excessively. Hopwfully the winners lose their next match.
@acediscovery7 ай бұрын
Yeah, both teams were very very slow and had weird energies between their members. Frustrating to watch!
@shancharan78346 ай бұрын
I wanna study Animal Behaviourology
@user-qh1lp7bi2y6 ай бұрын
No way its murman thurman
@late86417 ай бұрын
I love Alagar's facial expression every time she gives the answer. 😁
@arkdeniz7 ай бұрын
That’s a split opinion. Another comment saying exactly the opposite has a lot of thumbs.
@12warrenpark3 ай бұрын
It makes me want to vomit.
@tweegeTX37 ай бұрын
At the risk of sounding like a dunce, can anyone explain why he’s pronouncing it “don-jewan” instead of Don Juan?
@castelodeossos39477 ай бұрын
A great many names of both countries/cities/people, have a standard English pronunciation that differs from the native pronunciation: e.g., Lisbon instead of Lisboa and Saladin instead of Salah ad-Din. There are those who will opt for the native pronunciation, which is nowadays accepted, but is usually born of ignorance of the proper English pronunciation or pretentiousness: a latter example is saying 'HiMAAlaya' instead of 'HimalAya' or worse, pronouncing Paris in French while speaking English.
@tweegeTX37 ай бұрын
@@castelodeossos3947 Be all of that as it may, Juan is Spanish for John in English, even basic speakers of either can pronounce the counterpart’s.
@chicken11177 ай бұрын
probably only seen it on paper
@cat_or_pillar7 ай бұрын
That's how it's pronounced in the poem. Paxman said it (more or less) the Spanish way when talking about real people by that name, and I have to imagine Rajan will too.
@tweegeTX37 ай бұрын
@@cat_or_pillar I see, thank you for the elaboration. Much appreciated.
@tdb79927 ай бұрын
Why is he pronouncing Don Juan like that? :|
@shinichikudo35157 ай бұрын
Glad I'm not the only one bothered. Due One. Still ok too he's still good hehhe
@genevievedolan12887 ай бұрын
@@shinichikudo3515it is a convention to use an English pronunciation in certain works of literature from the past, which seems quite odd, but it persists.
@andrewclifton97727 ай бұрын
Because that;s the way Byron pronounced it in the poem.. In the first stanza the rhyming lines and 'new one' and 'true one.'
@Olivia-cq7tv7 ай бұрын
Actually that pronunciation of Juan in the context of the Byron poem is the correct one. If you read the poem you can see that in the rhymes that Byron chooses. Also, I believe that it was a deliberate affectation back in those days (we would call it racism nowadays) to pronounce Juan in an unashamedly English fashion, a way of looking down on the Spanish with whom the British were warring on and off for centuries before Byron.
@tdb79927 ай бұрын
@@Olivia-cq7tv Ah, I didn't know. Thanks for pointing that out, I appreciate it :)
@ShakibAhmedEmon7 ай бұрын
Omg first 🙌🏻
@TheInitiation7 ай бұрын
What Is It Like to Be a... Rat! What a travesty
@theresnothingness7 ай бұрын
No offence, but I absolutely hate the face that Emmanuel's Alagar make while putting across her answer. Every. Single. time.
@arkdeniz7 ай бұрын
That’s a split opinion. Another comment saying exactly the opposite has a lot of thumbs.
@wellpolina46527 ай бұрын
she’s acting like a cringe book character😭😭
@castelodeossos39477 ай бұрын
Am incapable of hating someone's facial expression but do find it disagreeable.
@PS-vm3we7 ай бұрын
The time it takes before she delivers the answer is the real problem here imo.
@ArthurKuntsler6 ай бұрын
It's that mouthbreathing chin move. Quite divisive. Quite rare.
@user-qq2bj5ix5n7 ай бұрын
Interesting choice of colors, Gorgianeh
@lizandgordon16 ай бұрын
Too political for my taste. Was that why she was on the team?
@peterweeks20667 ай бұрын
Once again sadly disappointed by the knowledge of British wildlife. Those bird call questions were all so easy. The way they treat the questions as if they are beneath them with lots of laughing also depresses me. No hope for retention of biodiversity when there’s so little interest from the young in the environment.
@HeirofAtholl7 ай бұрын
In fairness I don't think the laughter was dismissive, but rather of hopelessness - think "oh god I have no idea. We're screwed 😂"
@SomePeopleCallMe7 ай бұрын
goddamn eat a snickers bruh 😭😭😭
@late86417 ай бұрын
I laughed too because it was a weird question. They could've played live recordings of the birds but instead they had Rajan mimic the birds. It was a pretty dumb question.
@Tigerman3035 ай бұрын
It's impossible to know EVERYTHING
@nathelondon37197 ай бұрын
Always a pleasure to see an oxbridge college lose!
@rmorrison2847 ай бұрын
Can someone please teach Amol Rajan the "usual pronunciation" of the words "a" and "the", before he starts passing judgment on the pronunciation of foreign names at 4:02?
@Outwhere7 ай бұрын
He could also improve on his pronunciation of Juan.
@gooscarguitar7 ай бұрын
@@Outwhere That pronunciation of Juan is specific to the poem
@anthonydecastro69382 ай бұрын
"Don Giu-an"??? the brits can't pronounce Spanish names properly!!! and this is University Challenge!!!
@everyone067 ай бұрын
The woman in the middle for Christ Church Oxford absolute disgusting for displaying that octopus. Shows what the BBC are really like. Boycott the TV licence tax.
@gooscarguitar7 ай бұрын
so you saw a toy octopus, and thought that the only logical explanation for was that someone on the team had dug up an obscure nazi political cartoon and decided to show the world that they hated Jewish people. Would you have come to the same conclusion if you had watched this when it was recorded - i.e. in March? consider this: quiz teams often have plush toys as a mascot. And this is just a blue octopus because someone on the team likes octopuses. also, you don't know who the toy belongs to. You just perceived something as anti-Semitic and then blamed the woman wearing a headscarf. Maybe you should examine yourself first.
@slightlygrouchy7 ай бұрын
Get a grip! The show was recorded months before the crisis in Gaza! Moreover, octopusses have always be an important element of popular culture!
@ArthurKuntsler6 ай бұрын
Why are you an Octopus Hater? Not even an octopus could get you off? BBC have gone full NeoCon lately.
@Rosa-lv8yw3 ай бұрын
She just won a libel lawsuit against someone on twitter who said something similar, so watch your tongue.
@jdb59617 ай бұрын
Does anyone know which other episode Gorgianeh is on please?