The Death of Economics 101 ft. Mexie

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Unlearning Economics

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One way or another, econ101-ism is at the heart of the debates over why we can't have good policies. Good thing it's wrong!
0:00 Intro
2:24 Demand & Supply
8:06 The Minimum Wage Debate
15:34 Making Sense of the Minimum Wage
20:59 Rent Control
31:31 The Influence of Econ101 (Mexie)
40:42 The Brain Worm of Economics
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I am an academic economist from the UK who has long been critical of the economics profession and how economics is used in public policy. Mostly the channel will cover economics with a critical perspective but I aim to educate people about economics in the process, so I'll try to explain key concepts and ideas along the way. That way, even if you disagree with aspects of the videos you will hopefully learn something from them. Subscribe for more!
References (in rough order of appearance):
Thomas Sowell documentary:
• Thomas Sowell: Common ...
Vaush’s video on the minimum wage:
• This Anti-Minimum Wage...
The Rise of American Minimum Wages, 1912-1968, Price V. Fishback and Andrew J. Seltzer
The Elusive Employment Effect of the Minimum Wage, Alan Manning
Minimum Wages and Employment: A Case Study of the Fast-Food Industry in New Jersey and Pennsylvania, David Card and Alan Krueger
Econned, Yves Smith [source of Reed Garfield quote]
Minimum Wage Effects Across State Borders: Estimates Using Contiguous Counties, Dube et. al
The Effect Of Minimum Wages On Low-Wage Jobs, Cengiz et. al
Neumark's research and Dube and co's critique:
Minimum Wages And Employment: A Review Of Evidence From The New Minimum Wage Research, David Neumark and William Wascher
Myth or Measurement: What Does the New Minimum Wage Research Say about Minimum Wages and Job Loss in the United States?, David Neumark & Peter Shirley
Credible Research Designs for Minimum Wage Studies: A Response to Neumark, Salas and Wascher, Allegretto et. al
Publication Selection Bias in Minimum‐Wage Research? A Meta‐Regression Analysis, Doucouliagos and Stanley
15 Years of Research on US Employment and the Minimum Wage, Wolfson and Belman
The Effects on Employment and Family Income of Increasing the Federal Minimum Wage, CBO
Dube’s twitter thread on the CBO
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The Very Idea of Applying Economics, Thomas Leonard
If you want more on why demand-supply has been falsified for the labour market, read:
An econ theory, falsified, Noah Smith noahpinionblog.blogspot.com/2...
Research suggests there's an easy way to reduce suicide rates: increase the minimum wage, Jeff Spross theweek.com/articles-amp/8884...
Destiny/Burgis Rent Control Debate
• "What you've said is e...
Time for Revisionism on Rent Control?, Arnott
IGM Survey of Economists on Rent Control:
www.igmchicago.org/surveys/re...
Bloomberg article on Rent Control:
www.bloomberg.com/opinion/art...
The Effects of Rent Control Expansion on Tenants, Landlords, and Inequality: Evidence from San Francisco, Diamond et. al
Considerations on Rent Control, Josh Mason jwmason.org/slackwire/conside...
Economism, James Kwak
Toder, Eric & Rueben, Kim. (2007). Should We Eliminate Taxation of Capital Income?.
Moffitt, Robert and Wilhelm, Mark, Taxation and the Labor Supply: Decisions of the Affluent (June 1998). NBER Working Paper No. w6621, Available at SSRN: ssrn.com/abstract=160968
Keynes’ General Theory free online (source of Keynes quote): www.marxists.org/reference/su...
Extra references from pinned comment:
The Importance of Study Design in the Minimum-Wage Debate, Daniel Kuehn
files.epi.org/2014/importance...
EPI data on the minimum wage: www.epi.org/chart/state-of-am...
Diamond and McQuade (2019): www.semanticscholar.org/paper...

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@unlearningeconomics9021
@unlearningeconomics9021 3 жыл бұрын
A comment clarifying a few things about this video (sorry it’s a little late, I was busy with work!): Firstly, is a $15 median wage justified based on the evidence I cite? I didn’t want to spend time doing this type of arithmetic in the video but perhaps I will in the future to avoid confusion. The EPI data shows that the current median wage in the USA is $19/hour and, using the Dube quote, we can take 81% of this as unlikely to create unemployment problems, and that number is over $15. Factor in the gradual implementation of the policy over time (and the corresponding rise in the median wage itself), and I really doubt there are going to be noticeable effects on employment overall. It’s reasonable to worry about difficulties in low-wage states, but to be honest the evidence just doesn’t show that minimum wage increases anywhere (including other countries, see the Manning paper) have had terrible effects, so I’m not holding my breath for a catastrophe. On Neumark and the minimum wage, their research generally uses fixed effects, which control for things that are different between states but assume these things don’t change. The issue with this is that states may experience changes (eg economic booms) which are associated with changes in minimum wage policies, and this will confound the estimation. The approach of C & K, Dube and others uses close comparisons of counties which are likely to be experiencing similar trends and so it accounts for this. Another method that’s been used by Neumark and others is a ‘synthetic control’, where you construct a comparison as a combination of existing states, but this is an opaque process that has a lot of room for tweaking to get the results you want. In the minimum wage debate synthetic controls have been used to show both employment and no employment effects, depending on the authors, and I just don’t trust the approach. The paper by Daniel Kuehn goes into all this in more detail. Secondly and importantly, there is a mistake in how I read out the graph at 28:26. The top left graph actually refers to renters, not rents, falling, which must have been a mistake in writing the script - my bad. What the whole graph depicts is a situation where some units subjected to rent control were redeveloped and converted to either rented but uncontrolled units, or to owner-occupied units. The number of renters falling is a reflection of this process. 2nd generation rent control is in fact designed to incentivise these types of investments from landlords, though they displace existing residents. Overall, the Diamond paper shows that this doesn’t occur in the vast majority (85%) of units, where there are benefits to existing renters, both financially and in their length of tenure. If one were concerned exclusively with the number of renters at existing market prices, they may not regard this as a trade-off worth making. Rent control - at least in this instance - seemed to benefit most people and prevent poorer residents from being entirely displaced from the city, but it did slightly accelerate neighbourhood segregation within the city through these redevelopments. It’s certainly not going to solve gentrification alone. The rest of the literature sometimes assumes ‘income diversity’ and house price rises are a good thing as they represent improvements in quality of neighbourhoods - see eg Diamond and McQuade (2019 ) on their preferred subsidy policy - but they are assumed to be bad here. The paper is even internally inconsistent on whether incomes in an area rising is a good thing - it’s a negative thing if it’s a result of rent control, but a positive thing more generally! The only reasonable conclusion is of course “its complicated” and if the redeveloped houses were previously low quality, one could argue 2nd generation rent control is doing its job. On the other hand, one could prioritise existing residents entirely, but that doesn’t seem to be what opponents of rent control are doing as (again) the policy still showed overall that there was medium term retention of existing residents. An interesting debate for sure, but not one that’s going to be solved by half-baked reaction videos 😉 I have posted references from this comment at the bottom of the video description. Thanks for watching everyone!
@praneetpopuri4831
@praneetpopuri4831 3 жыл бұрын
I rewatched video to find this info out and you just posted it 2 hours ago, i am lucky lol.
@lydiatolhurst3955
@lydiatolhurst3955 3 жыл бұрын
Look everyone just needs to move on now I’ve had enough.
@johnhiggins2696
@johnhiggins2696 3 жыл бұрын
@@lydiatolhurst3955 what do you mean
@adenjones1802
@adenjones1802 3 жыл бұрын
The problem I have with this video is not that it is advocating for minimum wage so much as it is asking to get rid of the supply and demand model in order to advocate for it when you don't really need to. The theory is still useful for explaining the issue, its just that capitalists invoke it in the wrong way. The proper way to apply this model is to look at the workers surplus and the employer surplus. When you impose a minimum wage this model would suggest that the would be a dead weight loss to the economy (Big or small depending on the demand elasticity) but that the worker surplus ultimately increases, meaning workers are better of overall but this comes at a cost of some market efficiency and the employer surplus shrinks. This theory only tells you what the trade off is, not if the trade off is worth it. It only gives us descriptive information not prescriptive information. When it comes to government intervention there are positives and negatives. Its rarely a case of it being all bad or all good. If you don't care about businesses as much as you do consumers then its a perfectly valid choice even according to this model. The problem with economists and capitalists is not that they use the theory, but the fact that they only bring up the costs of minimum wage and pretend as if that is the end of the story. So you can still make the argument for minimum wage without getting rid of the theory. The theory still accounts for the positives and the negatives its just that the biased capitalists usually only look at the costs presented by the model. This model is also not meant to quantify other factors like if consumer spending increases as a result of minimum wage. Which it most likely will, leading to job creation. Again, you don't need to get rid of econ101 you just have to apply it properly and honestly and consider other factors.
@robanson32
@robanson32 3 жыл бұрын
“The loss of these jobs could actually be a good thing” is perhaps the most elitist comment I think I’ve heard in awhile. I think you’re selectively looking into the research that paints a the picture you want. Synthetic Seattle was a great approach compared to what came before to garner a more accurate picture. Its very likely the minimum wage examples in most studies are set right around or below market equilibrium thus the muddled results. The correct minimum wage is zero, the government need not interact in private citizens interactions
@smegleymunroe863
@smegleymunroe863 2 жыл бұрын
Econ 101 day one: “The economy is why we have ice cream” Econ 101 day ten: “And that’s why it’s okay for poor people to die”
@aezakmi42
@aezakmi42 2 жыл бұрын
@@007kingifrit I see you under that bridge, Mr Troll, hope you're having fun down there. Or... perhaps... you do actually believe that brain fart of a comment? In which case, I'm so sorry you have to suffer through living in such a fearful, confused, angry and helpless state of mind. I do hope you can recover someday; you're off to a good start by watching this video (assuming you did that, of course).
@007kingifrit
@007kingifrit 2 жыл бұрын
@@aezakmi42 only children call others trolls. it is a sign of the narrow minded . enlighten yourself
@aforgottenfriend2987
@aforgottenfriend2987 2 жыл бұрын
@@007kingifrit Imgration doesn't hurt the wages of current citizens, save high school dropouts, who suffered a 1% reduction. (also no its just generally more expensive and harder to be poor,)
@007kingifrit
@007kingifrit 2 жыл бұрын
@@aforgottenfriend2987 1. you're elitist for not caring about the working class, high school dropouts matter. 2. you're wrong. according to a 2018 study by the bank of england every 10% increase to immigration is a 2% drop in wages 3. legal immigrants tend to take jobs primarily from college grads at this point so. get fucked by knowledge dummy
@DeepakPal-tg7hy
@DeepakPal-tg7hy 2 жыл бұрын
Again why not raise the minimum wage to a $1000 an hour?
@unstablepc5913
@unstablepc5913 3 жыл бұрын
People talk about econ 101 like if understanding physics 101 could allow you to understand general relativity.
@EggEnjoyer
@EggEnjoyer 3 жыл бұрын
People talk about Econ 101 as if they actually know anything about Econ 101. But really they can’t even explain themselves or counter your ideas. They just keep repeating “it’s basic economics bruh” as if that’s an argument in itself. But they can’t actually even explain those economics. It’s literally a truism that people just repeat over and over.
@murilocelebi
@murilocelebi 3 жыл бұрын
@@EggEnjoyer dogma
@ibuetn9294
@ibuetn9294 3 жыл бұрын
Well, and they talk about it as if it was something scientifically validated over and over for hundreds of years like physics 101
@travcollier
@travcollier 3 жыл бұрын
Worse... Pretty much all (real) economics courses after 101 are about how what you learned in 101 isn't quite right.
@flarebear5346
@flarebear5346 3 жыл бұрын
@@ibuetn9294 I hate this part the most. Idk how economics went from something close to filosofy to something close to physics
@samusfan2441
@samusfan2441 3 жыл бұрын
As an Historian, I am offended by the economists who do not want to accept the truth that Economics is a Social Science. Denial won't do good for them.
@taiyoqun
@taiyoqun Жыл бұрын
The thing is that economic theory only works in a vacuum. As soon as you bring people into the mix everything they claim to be real turns out to be just thought. So they get away from reality and pretend they are studying the platonic ideal of money. That way they can claim how the economy works without a shadow of a doubt, and when they turn out to be wrong they can blame people for acting irrationality (when in actuality they just never accounted for the majority of the factors). In a sense it's a perfect "science", where there exists an ultimate reality you can easily comprehend, measure and explain. But on the other hand that reality does not relate to anything other than the fanfic they've been writing for generations. It's like a religion where if you believe very hard and study the text a lot you get to write new sacred texts. No, wait, that's every religion, they aren't even original. Hello zealots who are going to comment telling me how wrong I am, how are you?
@Cyclobomber
@Cyclobomber Жыл бұрын
Most economists are first and foremost ideologues who try to justify the system as it is, one of the reason is that they believe that the system is good because it's based on hard science because it's maths and as such economists are the hardest scientists ever. Yes this is insane, and they have the gall to mock philosophy teachers who, at least, know they aren't the pinnacle of science.
@crabbyalthegrump641
@crabbyalthegrump641 Жыл бұрын
​@@Cyclobomberdont forget, not only is it all good because it is 'hard science based on maths', it is also good because they get paid lots of money to say so ...
@Cyclobomber
@Cyclobomber Жыл бұрын
@@crabbyalthegrump641 Indeed, they're products of that system and paid to say it's the only system.
@SinistralEpoch
@SinistralEpoch Жыл бұрын
@@Cyclobomber tbh, this is why I don't take most economics arguments seriously. The USSR had a completely separate system, and when it was at its economic peak, it employed a command economy, the state employed most people, and they managed to industrialize, fight off the Nazis, end cylical famines in Russia, get people into space, provide a living standard comparable to the US, became a world superpower from a backwards feudal peasant state in a matter of decades, among other things. Economic organization is more fluid than market-minded economists make it seem. This doesn't mean we ignore the facts our scientific studies on these subjects, however. But there's a clear divide between studies that are biased and meant to confirm common logic, and studies that are - while also biased - actually curious about the outcome.
@UserJWR
@UserJWR 3 жыл бұрын
"Just like a physicist cannot claim that water will flow uphill, an economist cannot claim that employment increases as the minimum wage rises." If an honest physicist observes water flowing uphill, they will closely examine the phenomenon and QUESTION the respective theory. I think the fact that so many economists are so adamant that their theories MUST be true undermines Econ as a science more than any questioning of those theories.
@VeteranVandal
@VeteranVandal 2 жыл бұрын
Water uphill i've never seen, but some people observe particles in water surface go against the stream. It is odd, but it can happen. Bet I could also so use a thermodynamics joke somewhere here.
@kenfalloon3186
@kenfalloon3186 2 жыл бұрын
Capillary action?
@miaschambeck1530
@miaschambeck1530 2 жыл бұрын
@@VeteranVandal Fun fact: There are liquids that actually pour themselves. You can look up superfluidity. On topic: It is really weird to me, how a scientific theory is considered anything but a useful tool. If one is not useful anymore it should just be replaced.
@VeteranVandal
@VeteranVandal 2 жыл бұрын
@@miaschambeck1530 Forgot about superfluidity... Mostly because I was talking about water. But yes. Superfluids are a cool strange thing that exist.
@VeteranVandal
@VeteranVandal 2 жыл бұрын
@@kenfalloon3186 well, there's also capillary action.
@dairallan
@dairallan 3 жыл бұрын
My high school economics teacher told us right at the start that high school economics was largely "rules for children" and the actual reality of economics was deeper and more complex. This is the problem most people with only a basic high school understanding of economics have. They don't realise that the economics they were taught was dumbed down and simplified in order to be taught at that level.
@dudeman5303
@dudeman5303 3 жыл бұрын
And what makes it worse, when it gets abridged like that it isn't even the same field, it's basically meaningless. It's just NOT the same thing as the broader study of economics, schools have a serious problem with this for most subjects. The history you learn in america is especially pitiful, it's just so wrong that you actually have to "unlearn' it to get anywhere.
@hedgeknight3194
@hedgeknight3194 3 жыл бұрын
at least you had high school economics. Where I live that is considered “too extreme/difficult/useless” to teach teens
@Danielle_1234
@Danielle_1234 3 жыл бұрын
It's not just dumbed down, the theories taught are outright wrong. At least high school economics teaches some basic principals to think about the economy like supply and demand, elasticity, and so on.
@dairallan
@dairallan 3 жыл бұрын
@@Danielle_1234 Yeah I didn't make it clear enough in my initial post that its not just dumbed down but its dumbed down in a way that teaches things incorrectly. Elasticity is a great example of this. On top of that, elasticity focuses almost entirely on price elasticity which creates an undue fear of inflation and ignores the far more important cross elasticity.
@antonioscendrategattico2302
@antonioscendrategattico2302 3 жыл бұрын
This is worse than just being abridged. This is as if in high school chemistry, we weren't taught about atoms, but we still talked about "parts". Or hell, "elements". And we had to learn in university that actually atoms and molecules and chemical bonds are a thing. Econ 101 most of the time is outright wrong and doesn't bear out in reality.
@allanjmcpherson
@allanjmcpherson 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who has studied physics, I find the use of Econ 101 as an argument absurd. The clear reference is to the *very* *first* class on a subject a student would take-a mere introduction. Someone who has taken only a first year physics class will tell you that mass is always conserved and has no ability to explain the wave nature of light. But a student who has finished their second year should know that mass is not always conserved. Really, it's mass and energy taken together that are conserved. And (at least in my program) it's only in year 4 that you have the tools to see how light as a wave arises from theories of electricity and magnetism. Appeals to Econ 101 are a tacit admission that the speaker is making use of only the most basic, simplistic theoretical framework, and that they likely know no more about the subject than that.
@oilslick7010
@oilslick7010 3 жыл бұрын
I studied history, and it always baffles me that the Social Sciences, but especially Economics, delude themselves into thinking they're just as hardcore as STEM. The whole thing is based on the underlying assumption that humans are strictly rational beings who use that ratio to behave according to supposed natural laws without fault, like a celestial body would. Instead of taking that as an interesting philosophical point of departure, they flat-out accept that assumption as undeniable truth and proceed to base the entire system on it.
@michaelm8265
@michaelm8265 3 жыл бұрын
There is a viewpoint however, even common among practicing economists (despite the 'revolutions' on information , behavior, etc), that there exists a *consensus* on certain issues, on certain principles that still hold. Mankiw's 101 textbook usually features a section on how to 'think' like an economist, and a set of 'stylized facts' for which he argues there exists a fundamental consensus between serious economists. This is, in my opinion, an outright claim on scientific verification of the dominant thinking. The argument goes that; yes, in graduate studies you learn about finer points of economic phenomena and how, for example, the quality of contracts will influence behavior in the labor market, but generally the '101' predictions are a good tool for establishing 'intuition'. Professional economists know IS-LM models are flawed, yet would still argue they generally give a good 'intuition' of how the economy will behave (when in reality, the line of thought can become quite convoluted and its requirements of behavior are quite unlikely). Generally, economist professional would agree that the 'static' and 'frictionless' world of econ101 is just that, an incomplete model; but would use that template for tweaking and refinement. Even more 'liberal' or 'progressive' economists, who argue against these intuitions (and hopefully see them for what they are; ideological prepping tools), would use 'econ101' to say 'not-econ101'. As we have seen in this video. I think it is a good point to make that '101' economics should not be relied upon to 'win' debates, but realistically it is the only type of economics that the general public will (and can expected to) be familiar with until a widespread 'rethinking' of economics has completed itself. In principle 'econ101' is 'democratic' knowledge. That is why the fight for a *better* econ101 is so important, and why a complete overhaul of economics education is necessary. That I think is a position the Great Recession made clear *even if* one believes economics at the graduate level is fine. That said, I am one of those who think it is not. If you would like to delve deeper into this, Samuel Bowles has a worthwhile recent (2020) paper on what students learn in Econ101.
@luisluzania9713
@luisluzania9713 3 жыл бұрын
I think what you have described here is the most frustrating part about engaging with these kind of topics with anyone who ascribes to the 101 framework. You can explain precisely how their interpretations are flawed and overly simplistic, and can point out that they are relying solely on econ 101 and ignoring stuff you'd learn in upper division classes but they'll insist you're wrong and that the framework can be relied on without question.
@TemplarOnHigh
@TemplarOnHigh 3 жыл бұрын
@@luisluzania9713 Are there solid Khan, MIT, or other courses on the KZfaq platform for more than 101 / 102?
@luisluzania9713
@luisluzania9713 3 жыл бұрын
@@TemplarOnHigh honestly, that may be hard for me to answer for you as I have the benefit of a complete undergraduate economics education. As far as channels go, this is the best I've come across but other media I'd recommend are the book misbehaving by Richard thaler and thinking fast and slow by Daniel kahneman and Amos tversky. For me personally it was the behavioral economics stuff that broke the hold of the dogmatic 101 framework. I am currently taking the khan academy courses for econ right now as a refresher for CFA prep so I can let you know how that goes later but the most important thing is I realized that econ man, or the economic actors as described in classical theory are economic behavior under ideal conditions whereas behavioral helps you understand the deviations from a system working in perfect order (which is basically every aspect of the economy). Seems simple and intuitive almost, but it flies over people's heads. People in theory make complex calculations, people in reality use rules of thumb.
@katepriest346
@katepriest346 3 жыл бұрын
4:45 'Employment will be high at E3' Finally, economics for us gamers.
@frenchy1138
@frenchy1138 3 жыл бұрын
I'm reminded of a comment the Australian economist Richard Denniss makes regularly in his writing, that economics can't tell you if a policy is "good" or not. It can predict the impacts of a policy on an economy, but whether those impacts are desirable or not is a political question. Anyone telling you that we "must" do something because of economics essentially never has your best interests at heart.
@MrMarinus18
@MrMarinus18 Жыл бұрын
I think it's also important to ask the question: What do we want? I think economic growth for the sake of economic growth is a really stupid thing.
@jamieclarke321
@jamieclarke321 Жыл бұрын
Also bear in mind that predicting the impact and verifying the impact are two different things. Any theory can predict anything. Doesn’t make it true
@MrMarinus18
@MrMarinus18 Жыл бұрын
@@jamieclarke321 But we also have to acknoledge that the amount of pressure to favour billionares is gigantic so sometimes we have to just ignore it and help people.
@natbarmore
@natbarmore Жыл бұрын
I seriously question the ability of Econ to predict the impact of a policy on an economy, too.
@hadronoftheseus8829
@hadronoftheseus8829 Жыл бұрын
"It can predict the impacts of a policy on an economy..." Ah-ha-ha, no. It most definitely cannot.
@Sorenzo
@Sorenzo 3 жыл бұрын
Funny thing - when I learned Economics 101, what really stuck out to me is how much it has been misrepresented. I'd heard "you can't do rent control, it just doesn't work" so many times, but the actual argument in economic theory simply indicates that it's not the most efficient way to set prices in a vacuum - but we don't live in a vacuum. In the real world, people don't always have alternative options, so they end up overpaying, or there's serious problems caused when people can't afford the price of a home. Additionally, the public may simply decide democratically that some things are more important than 100% market efficiency. This is what we SHOULD learn from Economics 101.
@joesickler5888
@joesickler5888 2 жыл бұрын
All things are not held equal.
@calmkat9032
@calmkat9032 2 жыл бұрын
When I learned about how rent control doesnt work in Econ 101, I remember telling my parents how maybe they were right about economics all along (I was something like a socdem while they were conservative). However, that was High School. In College I took Macroeconomics and got into left wing youtube videos like this one. I realized it was true that rent control didn't work, however, there was another, more holistic solution to homelessness and out-of-control rent: decommodifying housing. Make homes on the taxpayer dime, give them to those who need them, and the problem is 100% solved. That became a microcosm of how I think about economics. I realize the flaws and limitations of conservative and liberal solutions, then I look at the hidden leftist solution, then it just so happens that that one addresses the issues of both sides. (It also just so happens that the people who run this country would be the only losers. In this example, people who own hundreds of homes and dozens of politicians would lose equity if new homes were built. Hmm...)
@gelinrefira
@gelinrefira 2 жыл бұрын
@@calmkat9032 - decommodifying housing. Yes that's what Singapore did with their newly built public housing.
@lazergurka-smerlin6561
@lazergurka-smerlin6561 2 жыл бұрын
@@gelinrefira Man singapore, truly a interesting country
@samsprague3158
@samsprague3158 Жыл бұрын
@@calmkat9032 similar for me. High school Econ was quintessential neo liberal, with all these cute little models and game theory. Then I took macro in college and it was basically like a refresher on micro and a bunch of reasons why it doesn’t actually work that way and we don’t know much tbh.
@LimeyLassen
@LimeyLassen 3 жыл бұрын
Scientist: The data showed overwhelming correlation when controlled for every conceivable variable. We tentatively draw no conclusions and recommend 10,000 additional trials. Economist: The data, confusingly, does not conform to theory. Our faith is being tested, we must increase our fasting and prayer.
@VeteranVandal
@VeteranVandal 2 жыл бұрын
Hahahahahhhah
@winner78222
@winner78222 2 жыл бұрын
Man, if that isn't true.
@EconExistential
@EconExistential 2 жыл бұрын
Economists don't have laboratory conditions like traditional scientists do. This allows them to do simple statistics to find causation. The laboratory environments alleviates bias in their results. Economists have to use natural experiments that can have messy data that leads to biased results. We can't make people do experiments, and we can't trick people into performing experiments. Because we don't have laboratory environments we have to have a framework (model) that helps us identify causality. If the model is bad it gets thrown out of peer review. If it is logical then is survives peer review. It isn't faith. Economists are scientists too. We just don't have access to laboratories like biologists do.
@SteinCodes
@SteinCodes 2 жыл бұрын
I took an Economics 101 in college, and when I read about Demand & Supply curve my first question was, Apple iPhones keep getting more expensive yet they keep selling more, then they said luxury goods are an exception. Then I asked necessities won't decrease if we make them more expensive, then they said necessities are an exception. Then I asked shampoos, medicines, and such items are not bought in excess when they are cheaper(I don't think people buy 10x of pain meds just cause they are cheaper)... Then well I was kicked out of the lecture.... And apparently I got a near perfect score in that course. LoL! And I still have no idea how D/S Curve works. Also why do companies use bundles to make things cheaper under buy 2 get 1 or similar schemes. How does that fit in Econ 101? How the hell does making something cheaper for only those who can afford to pay extra make demand go up? Shouldn't 50% discount after first purchase always be better? Oh don't tell me buy 2 get 1 is a more psychological then Economics, I thought Economics was a better and an exact science. Somehow I find general Economics and Law to both be wayyy to vague and bullshitty to help anyone, it can only harm people. Alright enough sarcasm, but hell it really is bullshit.
@theblackherald
@theblackherald 2 жыл бұрын
@@EconExistential Ah, but the key is that models should get thrown out when disagreeing with observations. As the video showed, only recently have economists even thought to test their models with anywhere close to sufficient rigor. And, again as shown in the video, even when well-constructed studies disagree with the data, economists are likely to turn at least a bit of a blind eye, lest they have to reconsider their core assumptions and bring disrepute to the discipline as a whole.
@fredflinsten449
@fredflinsten449 2 жыл бұрын
From my experience as an Econ grad who also majored in heterodox economics and statistics, I think the problem with orthodox economic majors (particularly Econ101/102/201/202) is that they don't deconstruct economics as a social science with its contexts and cross-disciplinary interactions. Instead, they treat it as if it were a trade you learn at trade school: "this week, we're gonna learn these tool called supply and demand, next week we'll learn about surplus, week after we'll learn how to use Nash equilibriums, next semester you learn about aggregate demand, etc...don't worry about the historical contexts behind them or how these ideas are constructed based on particular ideas of ontology and epistemology, or whether there are limitations and critiques on these ideas, or whether there are competing theories (ironic considering we want you to know perfectly competitive markets with consumers with perfect information generates the most Pareto optimal outcomes), etc...". Economics degrees need a full on restructure to stay relevant. Nothing wrong with being a neoclassical or new Keynesian economist, but an economics degree should be about economics, not economic dogma
@AS-lm2yv
@AS-lm2yv 2 жыл бұрын
yeah, economics education could be improved, but the field is still good
@trixn4285
@trixn4285 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I recently read a very interesting book that is basically a collection of interviews with some prominent economists (mostly heterodox post-keynesian but also some mainstream economists) where they get asked about the opinions of the state of economic theory, heterodox economics and what they think about it, about interest rates and the nature of money (credit theory of money, state theory of money) and about their opinions of MMT. This book is veeeery insightful. It's called "Can Heterodox Economics Make a Difference" by Phil Armstrong. Very good read. A lot of economists agreed that orthodox econ is way too dominant and dogmatic and a lot of assumptions have to be questioned more. As the questions are always more or less the same it's very interesting to see how they agree or differ on very fundamental topics.
@alyssonfarris2223
@alyssonfarris2223 2 жыл бұрын
@@trixn4285 Thank you for the recommendation on this! I’ll definitely be checking it out.
@alyssonfarris2223
@alyssonfarris2223 2 жыл бұрын
@@trixn4285 Good to know! I was going to pirate it, though, and found it on the website I usually use. My university’s business library also has an online copy apparently, so that’s convenient.
@trixn4285
@trixn4285 2 жыл бұрын
@@alyssonfarris2223 If you read it I'd really like to hear what your thoughts were on that. I found it quite astonishing and telling, how many different views on key questions a lot of economists (most of them even teaching at universities) have.
@thadiusbarnelsnatch3665
@thadiusbarnelsnatch3665 Жыл бұрын
“It’s basic economics” is the modern hand wave equivalent of “because the gods made it so”
@rey82rey82
@rey82rey82 9 ай бұрын
Basic economics is a total myth?
@nickthompson1812
@nickthompson1812 9 ай бұрын
@@rey82rey82 no, but it certainly doesn’t explain anything beyond surface level analyses. “Supply and demand hurr durr” doesn’t explain economics in 2023, ya know?
@OatmealTheCrazy
@OatmealTheCrazy 7 ай бұрын
​​@@nickthompson1812 it's also by the cult of "basic biology." It's effectively just an very vapidly made appeal to authority....based on a teaching that was deliberately omitting many things.
@florentin4061
@florentin4061 6 ай бұрын
neoclassical economics is a monoculture with the gods names as „economic growth“ and „job creation“
@lawrencium2626
@lawrencium2626 5 ай бұрын
i'd prefer someone invoke their faith in a higher power when trying to discuss social policies than economism, it's closer to the truth of "because I just feel we should/shouldn't fix things", and it's far easier to poke holes in than an ideology that pretends it's hard science regardless of tangible results and published peer-reviewed evidence.
@bgiv2010
@bgiv2010 2 жыл бұрын
Especially after Mexie's part, I'm beginning to think economics statistics literally cannot derive realistic conclusions for non-rich people. Taxes reduce demand therefore income taxes will encourage people to earn less income. WHAT?!
@robinpage2730
@robinpage2730 Жыл бұрын
Exactly this. Higher taxes increase the cost of living, which drives people to earn more to compensate. That's intuitive.
@bgiv2010
@bgiv2010 Жыл бұрын
@@robinpage2730 apparently the better assumption is that people are selfish and greedy so they would boycott higher taxes by earning less purely to avoid supporting others via public spending. People don't really need more money to survive, I guess. Workers have so much extra cash that they'll just negotiate a lower wage because they hate taxes more than they need to budget for food and rent.
@MrMarinus18
@MrMarinus18 Жыл бұрын
It's important to keep in mind the level of corruption in this field. You have billion dollar companies that try to either directly or indirectly influence people's perception.
@موسى_7
@موسى_7 Жыл бұрын
​@@bgiv2010 the best assumption is that everyone is middle class. If taxes were raised on the poor, they would become desperate. However, the middle class may indeed become lazy. Perhaps right wing economics is so popular among the 20th century generations because the middle class was abnormally large back then.
@bgiv2010
@bgiv2010 Жыл бұрын
@@موسى_7 the "middle class" is a fairy tale. Maybe it was a decent assumption but the policies derived from that assumption has led us to a place where it is no longer a good assumption.
@weaponxreject
@weaponxreject 3 жыл бұрын
I'm really loving the longer formats, video essays are my ASMR yo
@fh404
@fh404 3 жыл бұрын
How is this relaxing? Mexie's commentary in this was DENSE
@kalebmark2908
@kalebmark2908 3 жыл бұрын
This is so true
@dmoneyonair
@dmoneyonair 3 жыл бұрын
its like music
@weaponxreject
@weaponxreject 3 жыл бұрын
@@fh404 while not implying a single negative thing, her commentary offered me nothing new to process within the context of the video. tl;dr old news, i sleep
@Romeo-le2ez
@Romeo-le2ez 3 жыл бұрын
Yo nr wgitw
@cerumen
@cerumen Жыл бұрын
“It’s basic economics!” “It’s basic common sense!” “It’s basic biology!” “It’s basic human nature!” “It’s a basic historical fact!” If everything you know is basic, you might be basic.
@007kingifrit
@007kingifrit Жыл бұрын
if we need to keep explaining basic things to you. that says something about your low intelligence, not us.
@cerumen
@cerumen Жыл бұрын
​@@007kingifrit Things are sometimes complicated. If you need that to be explained to you, you are less acquainted with 'basic things' than you assume.
@007kingifrit
@007kingifrit Жыл бұрын
@@cerumen but if people keep needing to explain the basics to you.....then it isn't complicated , it's your low intelligence
@Demonskunk
@Demonskunk 3 жыл бұрын
“This experiment will prove whether minimum wage increases are good or bad.” *Experiment shows minimum wage is at best good, at worse neutral* “I don’t like these results” - Economists.
@TheLucasbr152
@TheLucasbr152 3 жыл бұрын
When did that happen?? Yes, minimum wage is bad on itself, and there is experiments showing that.
@SpectrumDT
@SpectrumDT 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheLucasbr152 : Did you watch the video?
@TheLucasbr152
@TheLucasbr152 2 жыл бұрын
@@SpectrumDT Yes, why?
@PhenomUprising
@PhenomUprising 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheLucasbr152 Because it seems you need to rewatch it.
@TheLucasbr152
@TheLucasbr152 2 жыл бұрын
@@PhenomUprising I don't need to re-watch just because I disagree. His video won't change the fact that minimum wage laws cause unemployment, raising the costs of production thus raising prices, and worst, it interfere on the freedom of two adults making contracts with other people. People can't even choose to work for a certain amount of money because government subjectively judges the wage "way too low" .
@jackramer
@jackramer 3 жыл бұрын
As someone currently going to a school very well known for neoclassical economics and that many people cite as “Econ 101” to make disingenuous arguments without regard for data, I am very glad your channel exists.
@evanoc
@evanoc 3 жыл бұрын
Lol what's up Jack
@OhWellWhatTheHell1
@OhWellWhatTheHell1 3 жыл бұрын
uchicago? total shot in the dark
@jackramer
@jackramer 3 жыл бұрын
@@evanoc I’m an avid commenter. What can I say?
@BDCTheSloth90
@BDCTheSloth90 3 жыл бұрын
To paraphrase someone who has already been rectified by UL, economic theories are like arseholes: everyone's got one, we use it every day, but you very rarely look at your own unless something's gone wrong.
@user-hy6cp6xp9f
@user-hy6cp6xp9f 3 жыл бұрын
​@@alexanderdvanbalderen9803 I understand your framing here, but it also frames economics as even analogous to a "hard science", which it absolutely is not. Yes, there is simplicity in Newtonian Classical physics that students learn in Physics 1, but the problem with "simplicity" in the classical and neoclassical economics taught in universities around the world is that it is inherently ideological. Economics is NOT a hard science - it is a social science trying to give itself prestige from its complex models, to distract from the fact that it is inherently unquestioning towards capitalism. The world is far more complex and has far more stakeholders than what lots of economic theory presents it as.
@KilgoreTroutAsf
@KilgoreTroutAsf 3 жыл бұрын
The "study economics 101!" starter pack: 1 Have a predetermined conclusion 2 Find a pet theory that supports your conclusion 3 Ignore any other theories or relevant variables that may interfere with your analysis 4 Ignore any empirical evidence against your conclusion 5 Claim that any criticism of your reasoning is "shooting the messenger"
@johnwalker1058
@johnwalker1058 2 жыл бұрын
More generally, I think you could apply this to anyone who believes firmly enough in a notion they are dogmatically unwilling to question or skeptically scrutinize and is steeped enough in confirmation-bias style thinking.
@ptkiller26
@ptkiller26 2 жыл бұрын
Empirical evidence is open to abuse of all kinds. Especially in economics as there is no independent/constant variable against which to test certain claims. Humans are not independent variables
@tomymelon6293
@tomymelon6293 2 жыл бұрын
@@ptkiller26 so I work in modeling using ai and I can confirm that while humans are independent variables, there are some clearly established irefutable patterns that are confirmed again and again. Yet people attack them and say it's inconclusive because they just don't like it.
@trixn4285
@trixn4285 2 жыл бұрын
What triggers me the most is that whenever somebody questions mainstream views on an ontological level they say: "It's not scientific because there is no rigorous mathematical model". Math is a language. It's a very helpful tool but only if you get your assumptions right beforehand.
@ptkiller26
@ptkiller26 2 жыл бұрын
@@tomymelon6293 The experience with which the sciences of human action have to deal is always an experience of complex phenomena. No laboratory experiments can be performed with regard to human action. To pursue quantitative analysis implies the possibility of the assignment of numbers, which can be subjected to all of the operations of arithmetic. To accomplish this, it is necessary to define an objective fixed unit. Such an objective unit, however, does not exist in the realm of human valuations. There are, in the field of economics, no constant relations, and consequently no measurement is possible. In other words, There are no constant standards for measuring the minds, the values, and the ideas of men. This is because People have the freedom of choice to change their minds and pursue actions that are contrary to what was observed in the past. Because of the unique nature of human beings, analyses in economics can only be qualitative.
@mattmadman6728
@mattmadman6728 3 жыл бұрын
Adult KZfaqr owns 14 year olds about economics.
@davitdavid7165
@davitdavid7165 2 жыл бұрын
Trying to convince himself his degree was worth it.
@gabitheancient7664
@gabitheancient7664 2 жыл бұрын
14 year olds and 80 year olds lmao
@NeroVuk
@NeroVuk 2 жыл бұрын
you mean completely destroys with facts and logic
@DeepakPal-tg7hy
@DeepakPal-tg7hy 2 жыл бұрын
@@NeroVuk If you call rhetoric as facts I don't know what to tell you. Stop with Marx and read Adam Smith. Maybe you'll actually learn how the world works. 😂
@jaceybella1267
@jaceybella1267 2 жыл бұрын
@@DeepakPal-tg7hy homie was making a joke. "Destroyed with facts and logic" is a meme. You're embarassing yourself, my dude
@latifoljic
@latifoljic 2 жыл бұрын
"we should reduce wealth inequality" Yeah, that's nice, snowflake. These two lines with opposite slopes say that you can't. That's just economics. 😎
@007kingifrit
@007kingifrit 2 жыл бұрын
inequality is the result of free people making their own choices. to be against inequality is ultimately to be against freedom
@latifoljic
@latifoljic 2 жыл бұрын
@@007kingifrit read marx
@007kingifrit
@007kingifrit 2 жыл бұрын
@@latifoljic real adults don't read marx. we know he is wrong from listening to you children
@ms.aelanwyr.ilaicos
@ms.aelanwyr.ilaicos 2 жыл бұрын
@@007kingifrit If you mean "the freedom the be impoverished", sure, I guess? Not all freedoms are a good thing. And it's not really because of choices. Not the important stuff, anyway. It's because of initial conditions and systems. If you can't recognize the thumbs on the scale, I am pretty sure you are too inattentive to reality to be part of the discourse.
@007kingifrit
@007kingifrit 2 жыл бұрын
@@ms.aelanwyr.ilaicos since people are born unequal (yes, they are) a free society will naturally have inequality. inequality means people are allowed to make their own choices, pursue their own talents
@ducokniepstra8217
@ducokniepstra8217 3 жыл бұрын
I allways felt so angry when someone would tell me to "learn economics" while explaining away human rights violations as: "well the market needs slaves or we can't have chocolate". I never really knew how to put in to words the obvious disconnect between that argument and reality. Thanks for broadening my understanding.
@gengiz80
@gengiz80 3 жыл бұрын
The issue is that America has tried to separate politics from economics and you can't. There is always underlying ideology to the economic environment. The people you argued with just showed you their political ideology which is pro slavery because it offers economic benefits to them. Never argue economics without mentioning the subjectivity of the political landscape .
@TheSm1thers
@TheSm1thers 3 жыл бұрын
You're not one of those guys who claim wage-based contracts to be equivalent to slavery, are you?
@ducokniepstra8217
@ducokniepstra8217 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheSm1thers sorry the quoted part is just a hypothetical example. My frustration is with the response, regardless of specific context.
@TheSm1thers
@TheSm1thers 3 жыл бұрын
@@ducokniepstra8217 Yeah I understand. People should explain or point to why others are wrong rather than just say "go learn x".
@Taeerom
@Taeerom 3 жыл бұрын
I too was tired of that argument. So I learned economics, found it a stupid fucking field, and studied human geography in stead. But I still know enough economics to call bullshit when faced with economism, while also knowing enough economic geography to explain to them why their theories are bunk. Mexie quoted David Harvey, and I can follow up on that recommendation.
@andriypredmyrskyy7791
@andriypredmyrskyy7791 3 жыл бұрын
Could not get over your portrait of Joe Biden, famous for appearing in: Die Hard, Die Harder, Die Hard 3, Die Hard 4, The Whole 9 Yards, and The Roast of Bruce Willis.
@BiscuitGeoff
@BiscuitGeoff 3 жыл бұрын
@Troll Bait you should probably replace the ‘you’ in your post with ‘I’.
@bluntbangs
@bluntbangs 2 жыл бұрын
One of the most weird concepts that's addressed in this video is when billionaire apologists will talk about how taxing the wealthy will somehow reduce wages, or if you prevent that by raising the minimum wage, they'll have to cut costs in other ways like raising prices or hiring less workers. This doesn't make sense for a number of reasons. First of all, massive companies have more than enough extra cash to handle increased taxes without doing any of these things and still run at the same size. Secondly, the idea that all these companies will raise prices in response to a minimum wage increase or taxation betrays their own model of supply and demand in the marketplace. Just because you increase costs in another area doesn't mean that increasing prices will suddenly make them more money. What they forget is that consumers still have their own supply and demand curve, and increasing prices will ultimately result in less consumers. Trust me, if companies could be making more money by increasing their prices, they would have already done it. This relies on some kind of false assumption that companies weren't already trying to operate in the most profitable ways, which unless they're purposefully running at a loss to out compete other companies, is obviously ridiculous.
@sigmamaleaffirmationhypnob7340
@sigmamaleaffirmationhypnob7340 8 ай бұрын
Let's be real here, companies already increase prices on a whim
@Pinkyton
@Pinkyton 3 жыл бұрын
Found you on Reddit and I clicked the video by accident while scrolling. I ended up staying for the whole thing - you did great on this. I've subscribed. Keep up the good work
@unlearningeconomics9021
@unlearningeconomics9021 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@HobbieStuartMusic
@HobbieStuartMusic 3 жыл бұрын
You put a lot of work into this video and it was really worth it, well done buddy
@jimcrelm9478
@jimcrelm9478 3 жыл бұрын
The combination of depth with a handful of memorable takeaways (low elasticity, inflexible demand, etc..) is fantastic. If he can keep the quality this high I would definitely watch similar length videos. May I ask does it harm a video's ranking to watch it over several sessions or to rewatch only specific sections? One possible improvement might be to simply list the key concepts at the end as an aid memorisation.
@gillsmoke
@gillsmoke 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, I really liked that he stuck to the 2 main factors the supply curves use for the model used in the ECON 101 books. It first describes it as a theoretical product then uses the curve to say the same thing happens in the Labor and Housing markets.
@varisleek3360
@varisleek3360 3 жыл бұрын
@Noe Demetrius seems.legit
@alexc9372
@alexc9372 3 жыл бұрын
Iive on 10.25 an hour. After my first year finishes I'm going to get my first raise. 2 Employees hired after me have gotten raises. Im getting my 2nd job
@Coastpsych_fi99
@Coastpsych_fi99 2 жыл бұрын
Didn’t you produce this?
@mattd2371
@mattd2371 3 жыл бұрын
I love the phrase, "the extremely online among us"
@bruhbruhdo5462
@bruhbruhdo5462 3 жыл бұрын
MAKE IT STOP
@Inressa
@Inressa 3 жыл бұрын
Terminally online.
@Flow86767
@Flow86767 3 жыл бұрын
Mogus
@nunkatsu
@nunkatsu 3 жыл бұрын
When the imposter is extremely online
@cakeisyummy5755
@cakeisyummy5755 3 жыл бұрын
@@nunkatsu When thine Impersonator is indeed Murderous!
@grimloncz3853
@grimloncz3853 2 жыл бұрын
I didnt know even Adam Smith thought supply/demand theory was flawed
@AlbertoGarcia-wd7sc
@AlbertoGarcia-wd7sc 3 жыл бұрын
A parrot could learn to repeat the words "demand and supply" and get graduated in economics
@controlmonkey
@controlmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
Me at the start of my Econ degree "economics is great!" Me at the end of my Econ degree "economics isn't a science fight me!"
@ASingh21112
@ASingh21112 3 жыл бұрын
Can you elaborate?
@M0stlyHarmless9
@M0stlyHarmless9 3 жыл бұрын
@@ASingh21112 I imagine he means that most economic models are entirely based on specious assumptions about how humans operate; like rational choice theory. And also that model assumptions fail to account for tons of other variables.
@Danielle_1234
@Danielle_1234 3 жыл бұрын
@@ASingh21112 When people say science like, "Physics is science." they're saying shorthand for, "Physics is a physical science." Physical science is hard fact from fiction, like that an apple falls at 9.8 meters squared. But there are other kinds of science that most people do not consider science, like soft sciences and social sciences. Economics is a social science that sells itself as a physical science. A social science is theories of how people react to certain situations. However, social sciences are not strongly regulated like physical sciences. In Physics you can't just say, "I think the planet is flat." and it will be blindly accepted. You have to prove it. In economics you can say, "I think people respond to increasing minimum wage laws by firing people." without validating or testing it and it can be passed off as if it is the rule of God itself. Teachers omit this fact and teach economics as if it talks about proven facts. It does not. It's a bunch of theories a group of very rich people pushed for to encourage the general masses to believe certain lies about the world, or at least econ 101 is, which is what this video is about. It's propaganda, not truth. There are hundreds, if not thousands of studies to disprove the theories taught in econ 101, but despite this lies continue to be taught.
@ASingh21112
@ASingh21112 3 жыл бұрын
@@Danielle_1234 Econometrics is very useful through. I think a distinction between Economics and Econometrics needs to be made. One is a social “science” and the other is just a set of statistical tools that can be used to study many things.
@antonioscendrategattico2302
@antonioscendrategattico2302 3 жыл бұрын
Economics is like hotdogs, you'll be a lot more skeptical of it once you see how it's made.
@nathanielbenfey5824
@nathanielbenfey5824 3 жыл бұрын
I really liked the longer video and the increased depth. I think the feeling of learning "Econ 101" and then accepting it wholeheartedly is widely applicable. Sometimes it takes a deeper understanding of a thing to be able to find critiques.
@bovinejoni4243
@bovinejoni4243 3 жыл бұрын
This seems to be a nearly universal instinct on the right. It’s not just Basic Econ, but Biology 101 and middle school history and on and on. It’s an ideology built on a mastery of the most dumbed-down iteration of every field of study. Like, take a 200 level course in SOMETHING already.
@MrMarinus18
@MrMarinus18 Жыл бұрын
Another thing that breaks it is the fact that the rich can abuse their power. They can use their power in one thing to force change into another thing.
@Sam-yg1lt
@Sam-yg1lt 3 жыл бұрын
I wish I could explain concepts like this to my parents. I am not smart, but I’ve often been frustrated that my parents have always suggested that there is no way to improve life for everyone. That things are always going to be bad and any attempts to change the system will make it worse. This helped me to solidify my belief that we can make a brighter more equal future. One where people don’t starve to work, and children don’t live in poverty. Thank you.
@istvanpraha
@istvanpraha Жыл бұрын
Well I am from NYC and I sort of agree with your parents. Anytime they increase benefits or raised minimum wage or salaries in general, costs always adjust like two weeks later. It feels like a hamster wheel
@nickthompson1812
@nickthompson1812 9 ай бұрын
People like that have been defeated by life. Hard to be around people like that. Keep fighting the good fight.
@gus29361
@gus29361 6 ай бұрын
Well I mean you can make everything better for everyone but there's only two ways. 1. Make a profound technological discovery along the lines of germ theory, electricity, or running water. This will drag everyone up eventually but always starts with the rich who have access to developing technologies. 2. Force people to act like their lives are getting better
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz 3 жыл бұрын
I think it's so popular because it's very simple to learn due to being very intuitive. So it makes people feel supieor when they think they can tell you how an entire economy works using a graph. It's a mixture of dunning kruger and a sad desire to seem indifferent to other people because you'll seem "intelligent" and "rational".
@krombopulos_michael
@krombopulos_michael 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's very intuitive, it's just one level removed from being intuitive, but like the Keynes quote says, that actually lends it some intellectual gravitas. Its unintuitive enough to that it makes you feel like you're smarter than most people, but still simple enough that it's very easy to learn.
@ldm8393
@ldm8393 3 жыл бұрын
That actually explains so much with what is wrong with armchair economists, Marxists and other ideological people talking about econ online.
@Alex-fu3mi
@Alex-fu3mi 3 жыл бұрын
@@pygmalion8952 I'm thinking they're referring to a 15 y/o who's watched one or two videos explaining the Marxist conception of profit or exploitation and feel they can diagnose world economies. Dunning Kruger at play on the left.
@50733Blabla1337
@50733Blabla1337 2 жыл бұрын
@@Alex-fu3mi Ye the vast amount of 15 y/o that go on researching Marx you are delusional my friend.
@Alex-fu3mi
@Alex-fu3mi 2 жыл бұрын
@@50733Blabla1337 it's way easier to learn about anti-capitalism / Marxism today than it ever has been. There are tons of zoomer leftists. Being a teen just lends itself to feeling like you know more than you do.
@cassiepruski1728
@cassiepruski1728 3 жыл бұрын
The excitement I felt when I saw this title after just signing up for econ 101 next semester is unparalleled
@alexj7440
@alexj7440 3 жыл бұрын
Micro or macro?
@RunningOnAutopilot
@RunningOnAutopilot 4 ай бұрын
“The politics of trauma and why cPTSD will never be in the DSM” is a great video about the political backlash on facts that are scientifically solid, inconvenient, and, indisputable (at least when fully informed and in good faith).
@OhMeGaGS
@OhMeGaGS 2 жыл бұрын
This is quite fascinating. I am shocked at just how many things in my higher education I simply accepted as true without ever bothering to question most of it.
@YZFMANIAC08
@YZFMANIAC08 Жыл бұрын
Same 100%
@arcdanis9747
@arcdanis9747 3 жыл бұрын
Being a graduate of an econ major, thank you SO much for this video. I see so many people acting like complete smartasses bringing everything down to the simplest of supply-demand models and "analysis", thinking real life works like simplified economic algorithms of some videogame. They tend to conveniently forget that concepts like elasticity of demand/supply or public goods even exist when it doesn't fit their narrative. The utter self-righteousness and disregard for multi-variant analysis of empirical data is truly nauseating. They always have the right answers, because their 50-year-old (or older) models say so. Hell, some people say that the Say's law of Market (TL;DR: supply creates demand) still applies to modern economies of abundance, where things like marketing exist to contradict it. What they also seem to have in common is worshipping the claims of Mises, Friedman, Sowell and the like as some sort of divine truth. I found myself alienated during econ studies because I asked the "wrong" questions. You're expected to listen and ask: "How can I make money from this?", not "Does it really make sense? Do those assumptions still hold true given contemporary knowledge? Is this even fair and resistant to exploits? What about failures of distribution?". Those Econ 101 people you talked about don't like this kind of questions. Almost like religious people when you blaspheme against a dogma...
@TheJumboBurrito
@TheJumboBurrito 3 жыл бұрын
such a fantastic channel. i love channels that go through studies that are worthy of this kind of analysis rather than channels that cover news headlines because i don’t have a lot of access to peer reviewed academic journals. thanks for making these subjects more accessible king!
@skepticfilmbuff3885
@skepticfilmbuff3885 3 жыл бұрын
If you have an issue accessing peer reviewed academic journals due to paywalls, might I recommend sci-hub? Just find the doi of the article you want to read and copy paste it into sci hub and you should get a pdf. I’ve gotten most of the studies cited in this vid that way.
@TheJumboBurrito
@TheJumboBurrito 3 жыл бұрын
@@skepticfilmbuff3885 thanks for the info!
@MrMarinus18
@MrMarinus18 Жыл бұрын
Many, many also say that Europe is choking out on it's welfare state. Europe has indeed many problems such as it's squabling small nations, the oil and trade embargo, an aging population, a strong and growing sense of xenophobia and so on. But it's welfare state is not one of them.
@13silentpoets
@13silentpoets 3 жыл бұрын
Ive been telling people for years the world was ruined by business and econ majors, the conversation about econimism was the missing piece I've been trying to vocalize for so long.
@generischgesichtslosgeneri3781
@generischgesichtslosgeneri3781 2 жыл бұрын
We in Germany and many other countrys watch your movies and tv series and there is one special theme coming into my mind. "The Batman", "Ambulance" and "Breaking Bad" would be over in 5 min. or never happend, when you just had social healthcare and infrastructure.
@seekingabsolution1907
@seekingabsolution1907 Жыл бұрын
This guy is English I think. Those films and television are set in the USA. Different countries.
@Pinkie3Point14159
@Pinkie3Point14159 Жыл бұрын
As someone who has universal healthcare, I totally agree and I often think the same thing watching US media. However Breaking Bad is a bad example because Walt is offered full coverage for his treatment in episode 1, he just turns it down due to pride. He isn't driven to do what he does because of desperation, but for greed/lust for power/ambition
@senthordika
@senthordika Жыл бұрын
@@Pinkie3Point14159 if you felt that universe health care is a right you would feel far more inclined to use it where as if you have been indoctrinated to believe free health care is a handout and handouts are bad you would be less likely to take the help. There would still be some that are just stubborn but for the most part it would remove the stigma of taking a 'handout' to the stubborn ones.
@JesusofPhilosophy
@JesusofPhilosophy Жыл бұрын
@Pinkie3point I don’t think that was like that from episode 1. He does it because of the cost of healthcare in the beginning. He just refuses to get help from his rich friend sometime in season 2 or 3. I think if he had been able to afford it in the beginning it wouldn’t have happened.
@wendigo2442
@wendigo2442 Жыл бұрын
@@senthordika got his ass
@jacobweill7512
@jacobweill7512 3 жыл бұрын
I recently got a masters in economics and I began to notice this phenomenon early on but I couldn’t quite put my finger on it. This was the first time I’ve ever seen this observation put so clearly, I had no idea so many people also recognized this happening.
@FPSIreland2
@FPSIreland2 3 жыл бұрын
Not an economist, but I gather you mean that there’s a distinct level of dogma in the economics literature?
@MrBriwolf
@MrBriwolf 2 жыл бұрын
I took a single econ class in micro econ and almost gouged my eyes out with how dogmatic they were.. Political science generally holds some things as in a "public good"- that is roads, healthcare, institutions that if expanded can bring broad positive change when managed properly. My econ professor literally said "we need to privatize roadways and i don't have kids so why should I pay for a public school system" on day 4. It still brings me chills.
@antediluvianatheist5262
@antediluvianatheist5262 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrBriwolf Yup. They handwave shit away and bald-faced tech things they know are not true.
@MrMarinus18
@MrMarinus18 Жыл бұрын
But I think we are also sometimes too hung up on the GDP dick measuring contest. Having a high GDP just for the sake of a high GDP is pointless.
@enjoythelife1
@enjoythelife1 3 жыл бұрын
Go as long as you need to chop those complex topics into understandable bits. This is gold
@shelbypowell9919
@shelbypowell9919 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve always liked the phrase, “a strong economy is a byproduct of effective governance, not its objective.” A person who argues for policy for its economic impact has missed the point.
@graystone2802
@graystone2802 3 жыл бұрын
Economy is the entire point of society. The world is too complicated to truly know the most efficient possible way to utilize our available resources, the ones we need to survive and thrive. A “strong economy” is one that is meeting the needs of the most amount of people the most efficiently. I don’t know what is up with people just associating the word economy with money, as if it’s a secondary objective and that there is something more important than considering how we distribute the livelihood of every individual.
@Szcza04
@Szcza04 7 ай бұрын
@@graystone2802neoliberal propaganda
@user-cx9nc4pj8w
@user-cx9nc4pj8w 4 ай бұрын
@@graystone2802 that makes no sense. Yes, society needs an economy to function. You need food to function. Does that mean food is the entire point of your life? Yes, the world is too complicated to truly know the most efficient possible way to utilize our available resources. That doesn't mean Laissez-Faire economics is correct or good. We have to accept that we're not going to know if we're being the most efficient or even very efficient, because like you said we can't, which also means we don't know if neoliberalism is the most efficient. But why is "efficiency" the goal of the economy? Are meeting needs and wants, and being prepared for the future not also important? And how do we know if the economy is "strong" or not? Should we just listen to what we're told? And yes, there are more important things than how we distribute the livelihood of everyone at least in my opinion, like upholding good moral values and making the world a better place. I don't know what you're actually saying here, but those are my thoughts.
@antlohable
@antlohable 3 жыл бұрын
Longer videos = hooray! I would love a series of videos on what you think SHOULD be happening and which policies are good. Will sure become a patron, sorry for not doing it sooner.
@20noble
@20noble 3 жыл бұрын
The Indian name “Dube” is pronounced as “Dubay” (I’m not trying to be pedantic just to point out a flaw, I’m trying to help you understand it)
@xwarrior760
@xwarrior760 3 жыл бұрын
And the Turkish name Cengiz is pronounced Djeng-is.
@anguishingquark
@anguishingquark 3 жыл бұрын
Dubaby?
@20noble
@20noble 3 жыл бұрын
@@anguishingquark not “du-baby” 😅, it’s pronounced as “dubay” or “doobay”
@lil_tistic
@lil_tistic 3 жыл бұрын
very noble of you
@20noble
@20noble 3 жыл бұрын
@@lil_tistic 😇
@Vaush
@Vaush 3 жыл бұрын
Spectacular
@unassumingaccount395
@unassumingaccount395 3 жыл бұрын
HI VAUSH
@alexj7440
@alexj7440 3 жыл бұрын
Vaush bad (at economics)
@Fendelfull
@Fendelfull 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexj7440 Can we at least agree that he is one layer or more better at economics than those who promulgate “Economism”, and the fallacies that insinuate into the popular understanding of such matters - which is to say, quite a lot better? That layer can mean the difference between false assumptions and correct-enough assumptions, which, if we’re talking in binary terms, would mean the difference between “bad” and “good” insofar as an influencer might exert some influence upon those being influenced. Not to say that vaush doesn’t err on such subjects, but the off-hand nature of his commentary leaves plenty of room to question the purity of anything seemingly stated as undeniable fact, and the live nature of the show makes it clear that anything stated - or most things, at least - are to be apprehended as off-the-cuff, and not necessarily as authoritative as something he might subject to an extended or rigorous essay, such as the one presented here. I rather admire that commitment to the internet of his live reactions, and doubt that anyone who is “good” at economics would do very well in this context, by comparison, making his take somewhat better than whatever we might evaluate as “good”, for whatever that’s worth. His seeming sense of responsibility to present a specific and expected response to issues is where he makes himself most vulnerable to the potential for logical disarray, and it’s not as apparent in his posts devoted to economic disagreements as it is in other topics, where a spasm of righteous emotional fervor might create the conditions whereby his limited humility becomes effectively burdensome in the course of a rapid exchange, and poorly constructed thoughts might tumble out. Again, the context of the live show allows for some leeway in matters of his listeners’ capacities for tolerating his imperfect human nature. I can think of countless more relevant targets, given the topic at hand, although I might give it another listen, in case I confused the context of the jabs. They did seem oddly personal, and it’s possible that I missed a beat of phrasing that kept me from a proper reading. I wouldn’t consider the detail “spectacular” by any margin, though I don’t expect this of any KZfaq experience.
@alexj7440
@alexj7440 3 жыл бұрын
@@Fendelfull It’s a joke in Vaush’s community. “Vaush bad” “Vaush rad” I just tacked on the “at economics” because of the topic of the video and his inclusion in it.
@paddyokearney
@paddyokearney 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexj7440 look just humour the guy, he's put a lot of effort into that essay
@sunnyzett
@sunnyzett 3 жыл бұрын
I've been taking a macroeconomics course these past few months, and it was weird to here the teacher and most of the students just go along like these features of economics and capitalism were faultless laws and facts. Some things my professor would say would leave me scratching my head, honestly. This video has done a really good job of putting those confused feelings and thoughts of mine into perspective, so thank you for that! "Socialism is just high-tax capitalism." -my Econ Professor
@robinpage2730
@robinpage2730 Жыл бұрын
"Entrepreneurs assume the risks so everyone else doesn't have to." How many office workers lost their shirts when Enron folded?
@lc1565
@lc1565 3 жыл бұрын
I think you struck a great balance between discussing academic theory and making it accessible. Would love to see more videos like this that strike a balance between getting into the details of the relevant research and providing commentary and context.
@barryhilliard909
@barryhilliard909 9 ай бұрын
agreed!
@jonasthiel2282
@jonasthiel2282 3 жыл бұрын
I like the long-form content. If you ever want to make a Shaun-length video, I'm on board.
@Halfwithero314
@Halfwithero314 3 жыл бұрын
Unlearning economics, the movie
@emrazum
@emrazum 3 жыл бұрын
I think economism can be largely explained by McCarthyism and neoliberal financialization. Also, the field is increasingly trying to STEM-ify itself instead of accepting its roots in the humanities.
@beezusHrist
@beezusHrist 3 жыл бұрын
ding, ding, ding... econometrics
@jackspurlock9201
@jackspurlock9201 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, economics is properly a sub-discipline of moral and political philosophy. There’s nothing wrong with using statistical methods per se, but anytime you’re dealing with the behavior of human beings there is going to be an ethical component. Furthermore, economic laws necessarily must be of a different quality than natural laws such as those in physics or biology, because of free will and the ethical component to the study of human beings.
@nunziocicone9556
@nunziocicone9556 3 жыл бұрын
Strongly disagree. Economism was already going very strong in the early 20th century long before there was a "neo" before liberalism
@beezusHrist
@beezusHrist 3 жыл бұрын
@@nunziocicone9556 that's what neoclassical economics is.
@nunziocicone9556
@nunziocicone9556 3 жыл бұрын
@@beezusHrist I don't follow. neoclassical economics is what?
@SourSpark.
@SourSpark. 3 жыл бұрын
I think this length is actually perfect for your videos. I did feel that like I wanted previous videos to dive just a tiny bit deeper (although I didn't say anything about it) and this video really hit that sweet spot, for me. I also thought you did really well at knowing when to refer the audience to a source instead of letting the video get derailed and go on for too long in one direction.
@danarves7452
@danarves7452 3 жыл бұрын
Due to elasticity, most people are happy with a bit more length! :D
@novuswojtek9346
@novuswojtek9346 3 жыл бұрын
I do like the longer form content BUT i and I think many would appreciate it if you could add time stamps if your talking about different topics like in this case. I believe this would also allow you to satisfy both types of people, the long form lovers and the more 10-15 mins but size type. P.s I’m an a level eco student and I absolutely love you keep up the good work. Would love to see something about decentralized planning artificial markets or worker cooperatives and worker control like that seen in Germany.
@unlearningeconomics9021
@unlearningeconomics9021 3 жыл бұрын
Fair point, I've added time stamps!
@worstelldaniel
@worstelldaniel 3 жыл бұрын
@@unlearningeconomics9021 An excellent, extremely helpful addition. thank you!
@casmalilopez4479
@casmalilopez4479 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have any recs for reading about decentralized planning?
@LowestofheDead
@LowestofheDead 3 жыл бұрын
Videos on cooperatives and decentralized planning would be awesome!
@MrMarinus18
@MrMarinus18 Жыл бұрын
There is actually a real world test of economics 101 in Ireland and we all know how well it turned out as it let to the Irish famine.
@emilyglass6625
@emilyglass6625 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciated this video, in all its length and detail, so much. I’m grateful for whatever style of content you feel excited to create, but I am strongly in favor of more long-form videos on theory and studies.
@Tomyb15
@Tomyb15 3 жыл бұрын
I'm watching this one 2 weeks late, but please keep these making more videos like these. Even if I end up having to watch them a few times, I genuinely feel like I'm learning more economics.
@robertwinslade3104
@robertwinslade3104 3 жыл бұрын
This has rapidly become one of my favourite KZfaq channels and is the reason I decided to use some of my spare time in lock-down to take an Economics A-level through an online college
@joecassidy2887
@joecassidy2887 3 жыл бұрын
The demand curve for your content has not be met yet. MORE MORE MORE ! ! !
@ec0ec0ec000
@ec0ec0ec000 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, this was incredible. Instantly one of my fav video essays on KZfaq.
@LucaSiempelkamp
@LucaSiempelkamp 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. This Channel and this kind of Video is what I have been looking for. So glad I found this. Please keep this great work up, it really helps a lot!
@paddyokearney
@paddyokearney 3 жыл бұрын
"It seems to me that both more affordable housing and lower rents might be considered a good thing" No, actually economics 101 tells me that my shoebox should be as expensive as possible because then landlords are making loads of money and then the economy is in good shape or something I don't know.
@suppositorylaxative3179
@suppositorylaxative3179 Жыл бұрын
Well you see, poor people don’t deserve to eat food because they haven’t worked sufficiently.
@paddyokearney
@paddyokearney Жыл бұрын
@@suppositorylaxative3179 exactly!
@Arcenus237J
@Arcenus237J 3 жыл бұрын
I quite like this style and the jokes peppered in.
@whythelongface64
@whythelongface64 3 жыл бұрын
Seeing vaush's face makes me go 😂😂😂😂
@VultureXV
@VultureXV Жыл бұрын
I'd argue that minimum wage debate is essentially a culture-based debate. The reason we, in the US, must constantly fight for higher minimum wage is because companies will set the minimum wage as a constant standard of which other job's income is derived. In other nations, which may value their communities and workers more than the US, minimum wage is not something that must be fought over. However, the rampancy of neoliberalism in the United States has given the worker base very little choice whatsoever, and Union Busting is still see as a beneficial thing.
@0witw047
@0witw047 Жыл бұрын
The typical US worker is paid more than workers in almost any other country in the world. How are they valued less?
@VultureXV
@VultureXV Жыл бұрын
@@0witw047 Paid more, but the cost of living is even higher. Imagine getting paid $20/hr in some spots but having necessities and essentials take up 60% of that income, then another 10% goes to a student loan, then another 25% goes to taxes. That's what a lot of American young adults are dealing with right now. Rent, in the busier places of the US (namely cities) is close to $1600~$2000 a month for the basic box and no utilities. The money just gets eaten almost immediately by basics, leaving very little if none at all to save or invest or utilize for the self.
@Ge1Ri4
@Ge1Ri4 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video; length and amount of detail were just fine,especislly considering the subject matter!
@filmcameras4evr45
@filmcameras4evr45 3 жыл бұрын
So, rent control.. I appreciate that there may be more demand and lower availability as a result, but in my mind, focusing primarily on research and the financial effects ignores the fact that we are talking about people here. In my opinion, It doesn't matter if wealthy individuals / companies loose money. Nobody deserves to be without housing, or food, or any other basic necessities we need to survive. Edit: Mexie nailed it. The powers that be are too busy concerning themselves with keeping the system as it is and funneling money into the pockets of those higher up the ladder. 'The rich get richer'
@krombopulos_michael
@krombopulos_michael 3 жыл бұрын
I think this is missing the point. Opponents of rent control do not argue that the downside is rich people losing money, they argue that it is worse for renters in the long term by reducing supply and decreasing their mobility. Nobody is arguing in favour of some abstract over the lives of real people, the disagreement is about how to actually help people long term.
@filmcameras4evr45
@filmcameras4evr45 3 жыл бұрын
@@krombopulos_michael which is fair enough, though ud argue long term and short term could be seen as separate arguments. As I said, this is about people's needs. So long as there's always housing available for everyone
@Taeerom
@Taeerom 3 жыл бұрын
@@krombopulos_michael People need houses, houses need people. Rent control lowers cost of renting, lowers willingness to speculate in housing properties, depressing housing prices, increases ability of people to buy their own homes. All good things. As long as there is profit to be made building houses, construction companies will build. It doesn't matter how profitable it is. In most cities, at least in the developed world, worrying about the profits are not the bottleneck. Space and regulatory status is. In the US, the only hinder is regulation. Not the amount of it, but the ass-backwardness of it all.
@constantineergius1626
@constantineergius1626 3 жыл бұрын
housing is a commodity the problem is per housing regulations where you cant pack people in like sardines , if people cant afford a large house they should downsize and the government doesnt let them downsize... same with food not everyone can afford a steak... we have an unemployment crisis we have lots of lazy people and not enough people working. japan has capsule apartments which is something we need seriously if you cant afford an apartment let people just rent out a bed its too much money to risk im trying to start a business i couldnt care less about those who lack the ambition to start an enterprise or get a job. housing, food even air is a commodity and everything should be as commodified as much as possible
@michael83479
@michael83479 3 жыл бұрын
Love the extra detail! Makes me understand stuff better and be able to argue my side of things much better with people
@QT5656
@QT5656 2 жыл бұрын
One of the best KZfaq videos I've ever seen. The video tackles important issues that are not being discussed in the mainstream media and it makes several compelling points that I've not seen elsewhere. The delivery is also clear, concise, and in good faith. You Tube would be a better place if more of its content was like this video.
@Pabloto-dq3sx
@Pabloto-dq3sx Жыл бұрын
Thank you! ¡Gracias! You really have reinforced all the beliefs I’ve had on economics since I started to think about them and have helped me a lot to be more outspoken with people who do not share this point or view, see economics in a very narrow margin thinking that they are a strict set of rules that work always the same and can’t change or simply think that they are too difficult for them to understand! (Which is basically everyone I know and it’s because of it that what you have done is so important to me). Anyway have a nice day and keep being absolutely fantastic!
@gengiz80
@gengiz80 3 жыл бұрын
Remember you can't have economics without a political ideology so when you unlearn economics you also have to challenge the idea of capitalism.
@jake______
@jake______ 3 жыл бұрын
Can you make them even longer, but also the more frequent? I'm willing to pay one dollar.
@Sumanitu
@Sumanitu 3 жыл бұрын
This video was a GREAT length, thank you. It doesn't need to be longer, but 30-45 minutes certainly can bring a much greater depth to a subject than the usual 10 minute faire we get on youtube. Even lets plays on youtube often limit themselves to 30 minutes, which is just not quite long enough to grasp what a game (or concept) has to offer.
@jpsousa4
@jpsousa4 2 жыл бұрын
I am so extremely happy after watching this video. This video is exactly the kind of content i'm here for. Thank you so much, and I urge you to make more long-form video like this!
@sithyuu7696
@sithyuu7696 3 жыл бұрын
Just finished the video and just wanted to say that I really liked the way you explain not only data but the different theories of how to interpret the data. Found it very interesting
@howieisbored
@howieisbored 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this! I can't fucking stand people constantly quoting Thomas Sowell as if he had these revolutionary economic ideas.
@alexj7440
@alexj7440 3 жыл бұрын
Sowell is a stupid person’s idea of an intelligent person. He also acts as their black friend.
@murilocelebi
@murilocelebi 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexj7440 world would be much better if dunning Kruger didn't exist
@callidusvulpes5556
@callidusvulpes5556 3 жыл бұрын
@Don Shepard it’s also being the token black economist for the right.
@em7894
@em7894 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexj7440 such an intellectual thing to say. And by intellectual I mean the worst kind possible. You must be seething because he's black and you can't use your usual buzzword of racist sexist misogynist to him.
@em7894
@em7894 3 жыл бұрын
@Don Shepard anything that helps poor people actually doesn't help them but makes them in a significantly worse position than they were before like majority of leftist policies.
@Dezarticulat666
@Dezarticulat666 3 жыл бұрын
Loves the video. Level of depth, amount of theory and length (especially since there were no sketches or overlong bits) were just right.
@Lady_Rhea
@Lady_Rhea Жыл бұрын
The length is highly beneficial, I really enjoy these videos, and the space it can take as a sort of economic podcast is lovely
@felipedaiber2991
@felipedaiber2991 3 жыл бұрын
As a chilean I have to say we do have a really nice minimum wage
@franciscopoblete5854
@franciscopoblete5854 3 жыл бұрын
I would really have to disagree. The current minimum wage in Chile barely let's people rent a place and buy food and basic needs, at least here in Antofagasta. Though I have heard that in the south of Chile rent and housing is less expensive, I do know that many places in the country also have problems with getting enough money to survive, let alone manage some Items for personal enjoyment without a credit. The way I saw that statistic is that it only shows the relation between the median, which I dont get. It might be the average, as I know that the 326k pesos is really close to the wage range between 500k and 800k pesos that I think most jobs give, though those are also not so great, and the 620k average wage in 2019 (quick google search). Most rents in my city go between 300k to 600k, and 700k isnt unheard of for the "bigger" departments, plus about 60-80k for food, and not counting living expenses like water, electricity or gas, the current minimum wage is very lacking, as are most job's wages, even when renting with a roomate. With everything in mind, I do think that is better having this minimum wage to no minimum wage, but saying that the current one is "really nice", I think paints a very different picture from reality, or at least from my reality. And that is exactly why a bill was trying to get passed so the minimum wage was raised, but I dont think it went far since I havent heard about it recently. Edit: Sorry for the long comment.
@julesdudes853
@julesdudes853 3 жыл бұрын
@@franciscopoblete5854 ^ this. another chilean here and it's really astounding how much some of these figures shown outside of the country make it seem really good and something to aspire to, but it's hardly ever echoed in the experience of the people who actually live here. the factors mentioned by francisco, plus several sources of debt, plus rent, plus living day-to-day, unable to have chances to save money contribute to a pretty shitty situation.
@simiolonga
@simiolonga 3 жыл бұрын
¿Me estái webeando?
@guillermonicolasdemartinid5572
@guillermonicolasdemartinid5572 3 жыл бұрын
@@franciscopoblete5854 hermano, la mediana significa que la mitad de la población gana menos que ese número, por lo que revise recién esta en 401k. Por otro lado, el promedio es la suma de todos los sueldos divido la población, el problema de eso es que siempre se infla ese número por la gente que gana cantidades exorbitantes.
@TwentySeventhLetter
@TwentySeventhLetter 3 жыл бұрын
(For anyone who missed it, the joke is that it's 69%)
@DiegoCandel
@DiegoCandel 3 жыл бұрын
Comment regarding what's said at 8:45 I'm from Chile and even with that 69% [minimum wage/median full-time earnings] score, we know our minimum wage is "shite" and doesn't amount to all monthly expenses. And the USA [minimum wage/median full-time earnings] percent is even lower??? Holy sh*t!!!
@jogeller5731
@jogeller5731 3 жыл бұрын
As someone from CR: same here. Our countries are insanely expensive to live in
@VeteranVandal
@VeteranVandal 2 жыл бұрын
I really thought a "69% nice" joke was going to be made and I came here to self fulfill my prophecy.
@chrisj4545
@chrisj4545 3 жыл бұрын
UE: "Was it too much? Do you want even more?" Me: More! UE: "(I hope not)" Me: More... please?
@kv4302
@kv4302 3 жыл бұрын
The subtitles are also super duper appreciated!
@daggerdan12
@daggerdan12 3 жыл бұрын
A long one today huh, stay killing it king! 👑
@imaginareality
@imaginareality 3 жыл бұрын
This video is great and I really appreciate that you put all the references in the info box.
@cjwarrington177
@cjwarrington177 3 жыл бұрын
This channel is the best thing I've come across this week, and it's a shame I binged all of your content in one evening.
@Hiri8
@Hiri8 3 жыл бұрын
This is the type of content i'm looking for from you, I'd enjoy the shorter format regardless. Thanks for the content.
@MCandCarriecf
@MCandCarriecf 3 жыл бұрын
As a person who is interested in knowing more about economy, because education failed her in that regard, thank you so much! It's really great to have this!!
@007kingifrit
@007kingifrit 2 жыл бұрын
eh i duno. seattle raised its min wage gradually 5 years ago, they found that in their own research the average worker lost money by losing hours. so i dunno where his numbers are coming from but he sounds like he has a goal to push
@Nick-hk2ro
@Nick-hk2ro 3 жыл бұрын
I love videos that go in depth with heavy topics and I respect you to provide information with citings. I gladly will listen to even longer videos if you choose to.
@nlarralde
@nlarralde 3 жыл бұрын
This video made a subscriber of me. Thanks for your work, and the springling of humorous clips throught. Looking forward to more.
@kayodesalandy
@kayodesalandy 3 жыл бұрын
This was a great video! I found you because of Shaun so trust me when I say video length is the least of worries. The information was definitely not too much and honestly very helpful. Love your stuff man.
@pacman9785
@pacman9785 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely enjoy the longer form videos
@jakelilevjen9766
@jakelilevjen9766 Жыл бұрын
As long as management can convince themselves that their work is somehow worth more than the people who actually produce things, and executives decide the salaries of other executives without any real way to measure their true value, we are going to have problems.
@peterpehlivan157
@peterpehlivan157 3 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna binge-watch your videos. Thank you so much for explaining economics. It's something I lack a secure grasp on and I really want to learn more.
@maliivan1993
@maliivan1993 3 жыл бұрын
I love the longer form video and would like these kinds of videos in the future from time to time
@artemkanarchist
@artemkanarchist 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for featuring Mexie❤️🖤 The change in length and format is also good I think
@fongangamassana6034
@fongangamassana6034 4 ай бұрын
I do love long format video. Thanks man . I want more
@GoldenKaos
@GoldenKaos 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate it’s way more work for you, but I LOVE the longer video and the more detail.
@jamestang1227
@jamestang1227 3 жыл бұрын
As a total layman in economics, this video remained easy to follow and highly watchable. I'd love to see more long-form content in future.
@danielbat9887
@danielbat9887 3 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling that Post-Modern thought and "Zeitgeist" has completely missed the economic academia. Philosophy, history and even law have gone through a major shift in the 70's and 80's, yet it deems economics is only beginning to feel the paradigm shift.
@worstelldaniel
@worstelldaniel 3 жыл бұрын
I'm looking forward to the more reliable, reproducible, well-designed studies to come out so we can push this paradigm shift even further.
@maxha9082
@maxha9082 3 жыл бұрын
I'd say economics and associated research and policy is directly responsible (among other forces) for the paradigm shift most people associate with postmodernism
@brianbrown9715
@brianbrown9715 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, as always. As for your experiment on length and detail, I liked it quite a lot, I felt that I could engage more deeply with the content. But your shorter videos are great too, very easily digestible and shareable, so I could even see something of a mix of short and long videos in the future, if that's what you wanted to do. In any case, I'm so glad to have found your channel. I've gone through a bit of an existential crisis in recent years, having obtained a MA in economics and coming to the conclusion that virtually everything I studied in university is more or less an elaborate fakery. Your channel is inspiring me to find something useful and relevant in the field I studied, and to apply it to issues I care about in a meaningful way. So, thank you, you're doing a wonderful thing with this channel.
@jonathanclark9063
@jonathanclark9063 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the detail. Please continue with this long format. Thanks
@mrheart4873
@mrheart4873 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, love the new format
@minivergur
@minivergur 3 жыл бұрын
I really like this long format
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