"Unless You Believe That I Am" | James White

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Canon Press

2 жыл бұрын

Dr. James White of Alpha and Omega Ministries preaches a sermon on John 8:23-24 at Christ Church in Moscow, Idaho.
"He said to them, “You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world. 24 I told you that you would die in your sins, for unless you believe that I am, you will die in your sins.”
This video is presented by Canon Press.

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@TheBeginningOfWisdom
@TheBeginningOfWisdom 2 жыл бұрын
This text, presented by Dr White, was one of the crucial texts to help me convert from unitarian to Trinitarian many years ago.
@NikkiSchumacherOfficial
@NikkiSchumacherOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
So powerful.
@danielmann5427
@danielmann5427 2 жыл бұрын
Praise the Lord!
@gavin_hill
@gavin_hill 2 жыл бұрын
Praise God!
@radioface3306
@radioface3306 2 жыл бұрын
Wow what a testimony….!
@joshhigdon4951
@joshhigdon4951 2 жыл бұрын
Praise God! So glad to hear this because unitarians are stubborn in their traditions. We all are I suppose, but in my experience, they are some of the most difficult to evangelize.
@samuelharris1689
@samuelharris1689 2 жыл бұрын
I Love Doug and Dr. White! Dr. White has been influential through his proclamation of the scriptures emboldening me to witness to Mormons, Jw’s, Muslims and “professing Christians.” I thank the Lord for faithful men like these that God has given as such amazing gifts to the body of Christ.
@AlliesPluckyPlaylists
@AlliesPluckyPlaylists 18 күн бұрын
Wow, I've gone over Isaiah 43:10 and the verses in John so many times in my head previously (because of talking to Mormons), but it never hit me like it did this time. I had a moment too. Those moments are so great!
@evelynstaalsen4002
@evelynstaalsen4002 2 жыл бұрын
oh hey, I was there! such a great exhortation, I learned a lot. Thank you, Dr White!
@JimL2883
@JimL2883 Жыл бұрын
Hey!
@isaiah68craig36
@isaiah68craig36 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dr White. That was a great sermon and exhortation to go, go, go, go, share the Word of God with a dark and broken world.
@musingsunderthesun196
@musingsunderthesun196 2 жыл бұрын
Cool to see Dr. White at Christ Church!
@kevint4173
@kevint4173 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dr white for encouragement to witness to Muslims.
@VicCrisson
@VicCrisson 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to see James here
@dylanmilks
@dylanmilks 2 жыл бұрын
What an amazing study! Thank you Pastor White.
@davidalinksy3778
@davidalinksy3778 2 жыл бұрын
This was great! I especially like “this began the first church shrinketh movement” that made me chuckle. Good stuff thanks!
@SamOwenI
@SamOwenI 2 жыл бұрын
"shrinkage"
@WorthlessDeadEnd
@WorthlessDeadEnd 2 ай бұрын
John 18:6 always reminds me of 1 Samuel 5:4
@tboyerva
@tboyerva 2 жыл бұрын
Wordstar for the win!
@therealkillerb7643
@therealkillerb7643 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@whiteboywithakick
@whiteboywithakick 2 жыл бұрын
God bless bless you all, James white included!
@felixguerrero6062
@felixguerrero6062 2 жыл бұрын
Powerful challenge, Pastor.
@stephenoni2019
@stephenoni2019 2 жыл бұрын
great resources presented here and I love the benediction
@thisgeneration2894
@thisgeneration2894 Жыл бұрын
LORD oh help us
@c.chinaski3156
@c.chinaski3156 2 жыл бұрын
I just got soo excited thinking this was the start of the release of the Grace Agenda videos! Still, can't go wrong with James White! When abouts will the GA videos start going up?
@firstthes2811
@firstthes2811 Жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh, I had the same Compaq computer with two floppy drives except the program I used the most was Lotus 1-2-3. And somewhere in my garage that computer is still around. 😂
@accordio321
@accordio321 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dr. James, the clear exposition is much appreciated.
@briandurrence4868
@briandurrence4868 2 жыл бұрын
I thank God for revealing the Truth of the great I Am doctrine to his chosen people.Well done my brother
@WorthlessDeadEnd
@WorthlessDeadEnd 2 ай бұрын
*38:42* - Surah what now?
@dylanmilks
@dylanmilks 2 жыл бұрын
Question: I've had someone ask me, "where, outside of the gospel of John, does Jesus claim to be God?" Can anyone point me in the right direction? I'd like to respond to this guy.
@dylanmilks
@dylanmilks 2 жыл бұрын
James answered my question at the 30:00 mark.
@iamdaniel1263
@iamdaniel1263 2 жыл бұрын
“Jesus” is the son of God there’s tons of scripture. Ask yourself in John 1:1 if Jesus is God then how can he be with him? Read the next scriptures John 1:2 “WITH God.” If this guy really knew Greek he would know that the original Greek translation said “the word was a God.”
@iamdaniel1263
@iamdaniel1263 2 жыл бұрын
Here is the Greek breakdown of John 1:1. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nryKp8aj2JuWhHk.html
@krisztianpatay9812
@krisztianpatay9812 Жыл бұрын
@@iamdaniel1263 is the word "a" God ? How many gods are there ?
@dennis9423
@dennis9423 Жыл бұрын
@@iamdaniel1263 He knows his Greek. Strong's Concordance - theos #216: theos: God, a god Original Word: θεός, οῦ, ὁ Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine; Noun, Masculine Transliteration: theos Phonetic Spelling: (theh'-os) Definition: God, a god Usage: (a) God, (b) a god, generally. Definition is dependent on context. In this particular passage it is God without the article. Every translation I looked at had no article. Because you do not accept Jesus as God, you will mistranslate passages to your own doctrinal beliefs. You are in error. Please check your Greek to English concordances and Lexicons. I leave you with this story from Mark and Luke that clearly shows Jesus is God. (Matthew 9:1-8; Luke 5:17-26) 1 A few days later Jesus went back to Capernaum. And when the people heard that He was home, 2 they gathered in such large numbers that there was no more room, not even outside the door, as Jesus spoke the word to them. 3 Then a paralytic was brought to Him, carried by four men. 4 Since they were unable to get to Jesus through the crowd, they uncovered the roof above Him, made an opening, and lowered the paralytic on his mat. 5 When Jesus saw their faith, He said to the paralytic, “Son, your sins are forgiven.” 6 But some of the scribes were sitting there and thinking in their hearts, 7 “Why does this man speak like this? He is blaspheming! Who can forgive sins but God alone?” 8 At once Jesus knew in His spirit that they were thinking this way within themselves. “Why are you thinking these things in your hearts?” He asked. 9 “Which is easier: to say to a paralytic, ‘Your sins are forgiven,’ or to say, ‘Get up, pick up your mat, and walk’? 10 But so that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins...” He said to the paralytic, 11 “I tell you, get up, pick up your mat, and go home.” 12 And immediately the man got up, picked up his mat, and walked out in front of them all. As a result, they were all astounded and glorified God, saying, “We have never seen anything like this!” Only God can forgive sins. Jesus forgave sins. Therefore, Jesus is God. Thanks.
@gazruss1984
@gazruss1984 2 жыл бұрын
But he continued, “You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world. 24 I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am he, you will indeed die in your sins.” 25 “Who are you?” they asked. “Just what I have been telling you from the beginning,” Jesus replied.26 “I have much to say in judgment of you. But he who sent me is trustworthy, and what I have heard from him I tell the world.” 27 They did not understand that he was telling them about his Father. 28 So Jesus said, “When you have lifted up[a]the Son of Man, then you will know that I am he and that I do nothing on my own but speak just what the Father has taught me.29 The one who sent me is with me; he has not left me alone, for I always do what pleases him.” 30 Even as he spoke, many believed in him.
@eferonbetancourt92
@eferonbetancourt92 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus is saying that he is the son of God. Not the I AM reference in the Old Testament when the father says I AM that I AM. The delusion is real... God have mercy.
@chiobiokey
@chiobiokey 2 ай бұрын
38:00
@3leon306
@3leon306 2 жыл бұрын
No mention of the Eucharist in John 6 … the most important supernatural reality of the Gospel, and no mention? Also, no mention of Exodus 3:14 and ipsum esse subsistens … Christ is not on the same ontological map of being as are we. he isn’t a being but being itself
@mikecude4167
@mikecude4167 3 ай бұрын
dos.
@shawnparrish1999
@shawnparrish1999 2 жыл бұрын
That curtain is way too close to that podium.
@kiwihans100
@kiwihans100 Жыл бұрын
In John 8: 24 Jesus used the SAME expression 'ego eimi' ( I am He|) as the controversial verse 58! Who was he saying he was? Just read verse 28 " Then Jesus said unto them, when ye have lifted up the SON OF MAN then shall ye know that 'I am he' ( ego eimi ) and that I do NOTHING of myself but as MY FATHER hath taught me, I speak these things". Thus John throughout his gospel states that Jesus is the SON OF GOD, not God ! John 20:31 makes this clear "These things have been written that you may believe that JESUS CHRIST IS THE SON OF GOD" and that by believing you may have everlasting life". End of story! Amen!
@thatonechristian2487
@thatonechristian2487 2 ай бұрын
You clearly do not understand the Incarnation. If you did, you would understand that Jesus “doing nothing of Himself” does NOT mean He is not God.
@spartacusantipas4580
@spartacusantipas4580 2 жыл бұрын
When you want to learn about Islam, go to Sam Shamoun, Christian Prince, David Wood, Al Fadi,and Jay
@yahiataha358
@yahiataha358 2 жыл бұрын
Do you know why I respect and revere Mr. James white as a muslim? It’s because he doesn’t make false claims and twist the truth about Islam like these people that you mention. James white debates honestly and respectfully with Muslims about religion, but these people that you mentioned, if you believe most of what they say about Islam then you are truly brainwashed by these people.
@berglen100
@berglen100 2 жыл бұрын
Neville Goddard teaching from experience will wake you up when you came down and called man, the death on this planet repeats for teaching you never dies except in man, you a original sons of god never dies, its a play and no ones lost.
@fahiemkahn2760
@fahiemkahn2760 Жыл бұрын
Don’t condemn its what the BIBLE ,Jesus and GOD said Jesus is a Prophet and not God as per the Bible. Matthew 13:57 English Standard Version And they took offense at him. But Jesus said to them, “A prophet is not without honor except in his hometown and in his own household.” Luke 24:19 English Standard Version And he said to them, “What things?” And they said to him, “Concerning Jesus of Nazareth, a man who was a prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people, Matthew 21:11 English Standard Version And the crowds said, “This is the prophet Jesus, from Nazareth of Galilee.” Only GOD can bless anyone or anything Acts 3:13New International Version (NIV) 13 The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified HIS SERVANT Jesus. You handed him over to be killed, and you disowned him before Pilate, though he had decided to let him go. The Bible says: Numbers 23:19 "God is not a man…" Hosea 11:9 "...For I am God, and not man..." Jesus is called a man many times in the Bible: John 8:40 "…a man who has told you the truth…" Acts 2:22 "Jesus the Nazarene, a man attested to you by God with miracles and wonders and signs which God performed through Him in your midst, just as you yourselves know." Acts 17:31 "He will judge the world in righteousness through a man whom He has appointed" 1.Tim. 2:5 "…the man Christ Jesus." God is not a man, but Jesus, may the mercy and blessings of God be upon him, was a man, therefore, Jesus was not God. The Bible Says that God is Greater than Jesus John 14:28 "My Father is greater than I." John 10:29 "My father is greater than all." Jesus can not be God if God is greater than him. The belief that the Father and son are equal is in direct contrast to the clear words from Jesus. Jesus Never Instructed His Disciples to Worship Himself or the Holy Ghost, but God and God Only Luke 11:2 "When you pray, say Our Father which art in heaven." John 16:23 "In that day, you shall ask me nothing. Whatsoever you ask of the Father in my name." John 4:23 "The hour cometh and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth; for the Father seeketh such to worship him." If Jesus was God, he would have sought worship for himself. Since he didn’t, instead he sought worship for God in the heavens, therefore, he was not God. The Bible Says that Jesus Recognized, Prayed, & Worshipped the Only True God Jesus prayed to God with the words: John 17:3 "…that they might know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent." Jesus prayed to God all night: Luke 6:12 "he continued all night in prayer to God." …because: Matthew 20:28: "Just as the son of man did not come to be served, but to serve." How did Jesus pray to God? Matthew 26:39: "he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, ‘My Father." Even Paul said: Hebrews 5:7 "During the days of Jesus’ life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with loud cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission." Who was Jesus praying to when he fell on his face with loud cries and petitions? Was it himself? Was Jesus crying in tears to himself pleading to be saved from death? No man, sane or insane, prays to himself! Surely the answer must be a resounding ‘No.’ Jesus was praying to "the only true God." Jesus was the servant of the One Who sent him. Can there be a clearer proof that Jesus was not God?
@dennis9423
@dennis9423 Жыл бұрын
Jesus was a man. Jesus was God. If you are going to use the Bible as your offensive weapon against Christianity, then I can use it as a defense: Phillipians 2:5-11 5 In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage; 7 rather, he made himself nothing by taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness. 8 And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to death- even death on a cross! 9 Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name, 10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. God Incarnate - The very God taking on human flesh. I have only used one passage, but there are so many others. Again, if you are going to use the Bible as your evidence of your argument, you can't pick and choose which passages to take out of context and disregard the rest. It is a package deal. Simply removing ones you like and ignoring the rest is unscholarly and deceptive. That won't fly in a debate and it won't fly here. Blessings
@bobbywolfe7191
@bobbywolfe7191 3 ай бұрын
If we are to believe that in the same gospel where we are told explicitly the words are written so that we may know and believe that Jesus is the Christ, the "son of God"...that actually Jesus revieled something much greater in the writings namely that just is the God of Israel, how does that not make the author seem disconnected to his subject? if he knew Jesus claimed to be the I Am from scripture that would be the thesis, he would have said so that you would know and believe that Jesus Christ is God.....the verse doesnt even make sense in contrext if you claim the "I am" (in what everywhere else ego ime is used its correctly translated "I am he" or "I am the one") if you say here it means "God" then you have ...."unless you believe that God, you will die in your sins" He would of had to say "I am that I am"....the jews had a law, any person preaching a God that the Israelite's had never know to them was to be stoned ....they knew nothing of a "triune"god, and Jesus being a Jew born under that law did not preach to them a triune god nor that He was part of that god they did not know...praying for everyone to believe Jesus, His God is our God
@BasicBiblicalTruth
@BasicBiblicalTruth 2 ай бұрын
My friend, you are disconnected from what John is claiming. When John claims that Jesus is the Son of God, he is claiming that Jesus is God, the second person of the triune God. Even Jesus' enemies understood that when he said God was his Father that he was claiming equality with God (John 5:18). Second, Why do you think the Jews thought Jesus was claiming to be Jehovah and picked up stones to kill him for blasphemy?? Because they knew their Bible! In Deu 32:39 in the LXX it says: “ιδετε ιδετε οτι εγω ειμι, και ουχ εστιν θεος πλην εμου” (Look! Behold, that I AM, and there is no God except me) and Isa 43:10 - "You are my witnesses," declares Jehovah, "and my servant whom I have chosen ινα γνωτε και πιστευσητε και συνητε οτι εγω ειμι” (that you might know and might believe and might understand that I AM). The Jews understood the claim Jesus was making. He was claiming to be Jehovah, co-equal in nature to Jehovah the Father. Εγω ειμι “does not necessarily imply deity when it contextually implies, ‘I am (the one in question)’... [but] when ‘I am’ lacks even an implied predicate, however, it becomes unintelligible except as an allusion to God’s name in the Hebrew Bible or LXX….The absolute use of the expression in 8:58, contrasted explicitly with Abraham’s finite longevity, clearly refers to a Jewish name for God.”[1] Contextually, grammatically, and intertextually, there is no question that Jesus was claiming to be the “I AM” of Deu 32:39 & Isa 43:10, and Exo 3:14. In other words, Jesus claimed to be God. The issue is that you don't know the OT well enough to catch the things that Jesus and the NT writers are claiming. [1] Craig S. Keener, The Gospel of John : A Commentary (Grand Rapids, MI.: Baker Academic, 2012), 769-770.
@DTWon
@DTWon Күн бұрын
The Pharisees themselves said that Jesus made Himself equal with God. To them saying that you were the Son of God was the same as saying you were God. Do you yourself know better what the Jews believed more than the ones who were there during this biblical account?
@lovejoypeaceforever
@lovejoypeaceforever 9 ай бұрын
THE KJV-HATER HAS SPOKEN. OTHERWISE: HAIL CALVIN !!
@Rightlydividing-wx1xb
@Rightlydividing-wx1xb 2 жыл бұрын
I listen to James when he discusses New Testament textual criticism and defends against KJV onlyism, he gives clear evidence. When he refutes cults like Mormonism, Jehovah's witnesses, unitarianism, Roman Catholicism, Islam, etc. where he gives "explicit" text for a proper refutation, clear evidence. But I disagree with the 9 points- not 5 points called TULIP- of Calvinism. Calvinism is easily refuted from Genesis to Revelation with explicit text, in clear language and plain context, beginning with their definition of Sovereign and Miticulous Determinism and a Secret Will. These are the first 3 points required as the foundation for the other 6, Calvinism crumbles without them. Jeremiah 7:31 (19:5, and 32:35 teach the same); 1 Samuel 23: 7-13; Jeremiah 18 concerning national peoples including chosen, covenanted Israel. These are just a few that contradict the 1st 3. Calvinism teaches one unsaved is regenerated/born again before even hearing the Gospel let alone believing it. Acts 10, Ephesians 1:13, Galatians 3:2 and others refute their claim of when one is regenerated. They teach that one chosen receives faith for believing "before" even hearing the Gospel let alone believing it, Romans 10:17 teaches that faith comes by "hearing" the message about Christ. They teach that every human being is Totally depraved and cannot positively respond to Spiritual truth, but Romans 1 teaches that people can be given over "to" depravity, which is a direct contradiction if one is Totally depraved. There are explicit verses and passages that absolutely contradict Calvinism's non biblical teachings/doctrines and James cannot defend his Calvinistic beliefs with explicit text proving them. He is very clumsy, in fact, when attempting to defend Calvinism, completely the opposite of defending scripture against clearly cultic entities mentioned above, which he does using explicit text coherently, aptly. This just scratches the surface of the false teachings of Calvinism. I am not an Arminian either by the way.
@randallwittman2720
@randallwittman2720 3 ай бұрын
The I AM scripture is not the best translation. I Aam indicates the ..present tense... I EXIST.. indicated past , present , and future. Further,,, why did KING JAMES capitalize this? Capitals didnt exist untill at least the 1400s. A flair for drama. Jesus , in NT. Is nearly stating he lived prior to Abraham! Two different languages, two different times. Two different people.
@BasicBiblicalTruth
@BasicBiblicalTruth 2 ай бұрын
In John 8, Jesus said to the Jewish leaders, "Unless you believe that I AM (εγω ειμι) you will die in your sins." This is a statement of IDENTITY. The Jewish leaders missed it the first time, they didn't understand his claim when he used the unpreticated “I AM,” and were expecting him to provide a predicate. This is obvious by their question: _“Who_ are you?”, which is a question of IDENTITY. This discourse goes back and forth. Finally, when Jesus said that Abraham rejoiced to see Jesus day, the Jews incredulously replied, "You are not yet fifty years old, and have you seen Abraham?" They are not actually asking a question about Jesus’ age, it is a rhetorical question used as a rebuke. It’s like saying, “Who do you think you are?” Jesus responds to this question with a statement of identity, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was (γενεσθαι), I AM (εγω ειμι)." Jesus was not simply saying that he existed before Abraham. He didn't say "I was" (ημην), but "I am" (εγω ειμι)-grammatically incorrect, theologically spot on! The unpredicated “I AM” is “intentionally unfinished, primarily because the statement is expected to be grasped by the listener/reader as an allusion to the identity of God (Exod 3). But the unfinished statement could have been finished by the Jews quite easily: ‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.’ This verse parallels the Gospel’s first verse, ‘And the Word was God’ (1:1).”[1] [1] Edward W Klink, John : Zondervan Exegetical Commentary on the New Testament (Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan, 2016), ePub, 8:58.
@MichaelTheophilus906
@MichaelTheophilus906 Ай бұрын
"Jesus is Yahweh"----James White Pray for this man. He is very deceived.
@IHS333
@IHS333 Жыл бұрын
Baptist terminology Not found in the Bible Altar Call Age of accountability Total depravity of man Ask Jesus into your heart Rapture Invisibile church Clothed in the righteousness of Christ Accept Christ as your personal Lord and saviour Enthroning the Bible in your heart Personal interpretation of scriptures (1 Pt 2) Faith Alone (James 2:24) Scripture Alone (2Thess ) Celebtating Christmas Remembering Good Friday Celebrating Easter The Gospel is a 'simple message'
@dennis9423
@dennis9423 Жыл бұрын
So, what is your point? You have chosed some sort of relgious logo for your personal identification that is not found in the Bible, either. What denomination are you so I can list the words you use not found in the Bible? Maybe Eucharist, catechism, Last Supper, Communion, Bible, Rector, Vicar, pew, light switch...? Second, AB, this church is not Baptist. It might do you some good to check the denomination and their doctrinal statements. I know that going to mean some homework for you, but if you are going to make an accusation, get it right. There is no merit in your list if the list doesn't fit, and it doesn't by the way. Finally, AB, do something constructive for the church, for Christ's sake, literally. All your doing is making whiney noises like the kids in the nursery. If you have a beef, tell us what it is and how to fix it, please.
@stevenwebb6253
@stevenwebb6253 6 ай бұрын
Sorry, Jesus isn’t God, nor equal to God. He called our God and Father his God and Father at John 20:17. See also: 1 Corinthians 8:4-6 4 Now concerning the eating of food offered to idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world and that there is no God but one. 5 For even though there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many “gods” and many “lords,” 6 there is actually to us one God, the Father, from whom all things are and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are and we through him. And…… John 17:3 “This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ.” The only true God….. I am. Is Jeremiah also the ‘I am’? Jeremiah 1:6 “Then said I, Ah, Lord GOD! behold, I cannot speak: for I am a child.” King James Is John also the ‘I am’? John 1:20,21 “And he confessed, and denied not; but confessed, I am not the Christ. And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not. Art thou that prophet? And he answered, No.” King James Your ‘I am’ reasoning doesn’t make sense.
@BasicBiblicalTruth
@BasicBiblicalTruth 2 ай бұрын
You didn't even attempt to deal with the "I AM" statement Jesus made. You simply played the JW whataboutism game and said, what about these verses that aren't related to the topic. ps. Paul Christianizes the Shema in 1Cor 8:4-6 and includes Jesus within the one God.
@stevenwebb6253
@stevenwebb6253 2 ай бұрын
@@BasicBiblicalTruth Is Jeremiah also the ‘I am’? Jeremiah 1:6 “Then said I, Ah, Lord GOD! behold, I cannot speak: for I am a child.” King James Is John also the ‘I am’? John 1:20,21 “And he confessed, and denied not; but confessed, I am not the Christ. And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not. Art thou that prophet? And he answered, No.” King James Your ‘I am’ reasoning doesn’t make sense.
@BasicBiblicalTruth
@BasicBiblicalTruth 2 ай бұрын
εγω ειμι “does not necessarily imply deity when it contextually implies, ‘I am (the one in question)’... [but] when ‘I am’ lacks even an implied predicate, however, it becomes unintelligible except as an allusion to God’s name in the Hebrew Bible or LXX….The absolute use of the expression in 8:58, contrasted explicitly with Abraham’s finite longevity, clearly refers to a Jewish name for God.”[1] Do you know what a predicate is? [1] Craig S. Keener, The Gospel of John : A Commentary (Grand Rapids, MI.: Baker Academic, 2012), 769-770
@shawnstephens6795
@shawnstephens6795 2 жыл бұрын
John is a strange book...I'm not sure Jesus actually said any of it in real life when he was on earth. I do believe it is a post-resurrection perspective on Jesus that was inspired by the Holy Spirit though.
@Gordonius
@Gordonius 2 жыл бұрын
Why?
@shawnstephens6795
@shawnstephens6795 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gordonius ...Its so different than the other three gospels. Why is that?
@RussianBot4Christ
@RussianBot4Christ 2 жыл бұрын
They do seem like paraphrases, but it may be close to how Christ spoke. We see mystic, compressed language in the other gospels too.
@Gordonius
@Gordonius 2 жыл бұрын
@@shawnstephens6795 Because of his writing style, his Gentile focused structure perhaps.
@29hugoo
@29hugoo 2 жыл бұрын
@@shawnstephens6795 how is it different? And if it is, how does this make it flawed?
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