Growing up Duggar, courtship and baby #3 w/ Jinger Duggar Vuolo & Jeremy Vuolo | Ep. 71
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@JingerandJeremy discuss life growing up in the Duggar household, their courtship, and their plans for baby no. 3
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00:00 - Episode 71
02:46 - Dating a reality TV star
07:36 - How the IBLP cult started
10:50 - Growing up in a cult
19:16 - I was raised to believe adoption was wrong
28:11 - My childhood on 19 Kids and Counting
32:01 - Growing up with 18 siblings
38:21 - "Courting" my wife in the Duggar family
56:45 - Wearing pants for the first time
1:02:29 - Life after 19 Kids and Counting
1:12:38 - Writing about my life as a Duggar
1:21:59 - Why all of the Duggars have "J" names
1:24:47 - Someone tried to sell my diary on eBay
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@abbieowen565 29 күн бұрын
Jinger said something along the lines of "Honouring my parents is about respecting them but not obeying everything they say " and I think that is so powerful. I really struggle with boundaries and I think reminding myself of this is going to massively help!
@hnclym98 27 күн бұрын
Yes that part was incredible!!
@noorbohamad5796 27 күн бұрын
Nobody seems to ever really say respect your daughters yet daughters must respect everybody UNFAIR
@Betty-Boop809 26 күн бұрын
@@noorbohamad5796it’s despicable but that’s the cult life
@Breeanamarie 24 күн бұрын
Yes I once was told this exact thing in therapy and has helped my perspective and honestly guilt I would have after every decision I made as an adult!
@JennAmazed 24 күн бұрын
Also, are parents are told in the Bible to love their children. Love requires honor and respect. The Bible also plainly says, Parents, do not provoke your children.
@laurenwhitaker17 26 күн бұрын
Of all the couples, Jeremy and Jinger are the easiest to listen to. Very intelligent, eloquent and down to earth.
@Irishrose777 25 күн бұрын
I think Jeremy has really brought out the best in Jinger and helped her outgrow unhealthy beliefs.
@mrneveradullmoment 25 күн бұрын
100%
@helpingkarma 24 күн бұрын
Jinger talks normally now. The rest of her family have a formula for speaking. The words they say, the cadence of their sentences, where they take a breath, and the way the women pause for the man and just smile and shake their head and agree with what they say. She has her own brain now and her husband respects her ideas. I love it!
@RoxanneEdgemotherhoodandmakeup 20 күн бұрын
I’d say Jill & Derrek are a close second! ❤
@aniolcanet 19 күн бұрын
haha i just commented that. and jeremy is a lot less…i don’t know. he doesn’t talk over jinger as much as some of the other husbands do.
@nicolenowicki5021 26 күн бұрын
I’m not religious at all but I respect the HELL out of him for helping ginger find her way to where she is now with love and education and grace and not by force.
@alyblakeley9526 24 күн бұрын
I think the only thing he could claim is helped give her the confidence to be her own woman. To have her own thoughts and feelings about things. He did what a husband should be first he became her protector and in that protective space it allowed her time to become her real self.
@kadamowicz68 22 күн бұрын
But he still has her down the rabbit hole of the Bible which is just a book and pretty dang scary and cultish all on its own.
@graceannapatel7578 21 күн бұрын
@@kadamowicz68 how that cultish?
@kadamowicz68 21 күн бұрын
@@graceannapatel7578 it’s a book with no proven base and no proven origin. It’s blindly followed as the word of some higher authority with many variations around the world. People fear a mystical place called hell and that shapes what the say and do. That’s a cult. It controls every essence of their lives.
@Sanity_Faire 18 күн бұрын
@@kadamowicz68 I’m backing this comment. I’m 62…spent my life praying in faith to God. My last prayer was six yrs ago. Why? Not any people. History and science! How is it scary? Jesus is described lovingly…God? He will cast you into a lake of fire!! 😡 How humble, how loving 🥰 and I am suppose to mirror His behavior.
@rebeccajoy_25 26 күн бұрын
Jeremy and Jinger exude so much wisdom. I’ve never seen someone maintain respect for her parents like this while also publicly decrying the false teaching they raised her in. Such a great episode!
@trishabaran1521 25 күн бұрын
I was raised up in a church where there were so many restrictions & I missed out on so much of my childhood. When I got older & had a child I refused to raise them up in a certain denomination. I wanted my child to enjoy her childhood with NO regrets. It wasn’t until I was older & went to Bible school & in study the word I realized that was man made rules and not Biblical @ all ! It was so freeing and free from the condemnation as well ! Jeremy, has helped Jinger to see it was man made laws. I love 💕 that he was grounded enough in the word to say No! No ! That’s a faults teaching. You Go Jeremy!
@ukwhitewitch 24 күн бұрын
@trishabaran1521 yes, you are so right, all religions are "man made" your daughter will be happier and healthier mentally not to have been brought up with religion 😊
@trishabaran1521 24 күн бұрын
@@ukwhitewitch Hope you have a great day!
@alitakiss7691 8 күн бұрын
Well, there is something about guarding your ear and eye gates. What you look at, you become.
@staceycothren4032 9 сағат бұрын
Well said!
@LS-wy8pk 29 күн бұрын
“If the only thing that makes me a good person is rules and a chaperone then I am not a good dude” finally!!! That is the best way to put it
@user-mj3pl4ws7p 29 күн бұрын
Yes!
@KentuckyNaNasLife 29 күн бұрын
Yes 🤚🏻💯 Agree, That's The Perfect Way to Say it that We ALL Can learn from as a Person in life Period 😉💭❣️I ❤ That interpretation for Us All as a Child of God ✨😇✨, Being a Good Human 🤗 in anything we go through or life Circumstances ❤️🙏🏻❤️❣️
@jeniferkenney2984 29 күн бұрын
Yes this is what I agree with Jeremy too. I mean this makes so much sense. I loved how he explained it. ❤
@jeniferkenney2984 28 күн бұрын
@@dustinrustick8450 there's nothing wrong with rules but the way they were with their kids was very controlling and there are other ways to protect your kids without being overbearing.
@DoctorJoanieTool 28 күн бұрын
And then you see what happened with Josh …. and you quickly see these ‘eyes always watching’ rules do nothing to prevent horrific behavior& actions …. If anything, cult mentality and ruling by terror/control always backfired and causes the very problems that are supposedly being avoided.
@jodijohnson23 29 күн бұрын
The way Jeremy says “I knew who this woman was at her core” that was so sweet. I love how he didn’t force her to change, but showed her so much love and just wanted her to see who God really is, that He isn’t a God of fear but of love and peace!
@amylink7199 27 күн бұрын
The epitome of a godly man! Thank you, Jeremy for loving our girl to life!
@noorbohamad5796 27 күн бұрын
What I’ve been taught is that God is supposed to be feared makes total sense like there’s BILLIONS of us and only one God all mighty all powerful all knowing creator of everything the whole “love peace” stuff is often just hypocrisy claiming blah blah blah “love peace forgive/ness” blah blah blah then turning around bullying harassing attacking whoever’s seen as different
26 күн бұрын
Billions of us?@@noorbohamad5796
@cassben8608 26 күн бұрын
😂
@trishabaran1521 24 күн бұрын
Now I just hope the rest of her siblings can be free from such false teachings!
@moonbabycrystals 24 күн бұрын
Dude Jeremy is SO well spoken and so wise. What a blessing.
@moogie01956 6 күн бұрын
God blessed them both together so they may grow together. Christ is not based in fear.
@TimeTraveller2054 25 күн бұрын
Isn't it strange, her parents were so fearful of outside influences to the extent that there was no worldly music, no team sports, no school, but they invited total strangers into their home and gave them access to their children's rooms?
@RachaelNelson-df3qc 25 күн бұрын
The kids learned at home
@RachaelNelson-df3qc 25 күн бұрын
The kids learned at home
@RachaelNelson-df3qc 25 күн бұрын
The kids learned at home
@RachaelNelson-df3qc 25 күн бұрын
The kids learned at home
@rachelpowell2477 24 күн бұрын
Yeah and they put them on tv despite not letting the kids watch them
@kakarco5676 29 күн бұрын
I feel like I could listen to Jeremy speak all day. Not in a weird way, but in a way that he does an amazing job breaking down the books and verses in the Bible. It’s beautiful to see that Jeremy and Jinger’s relationship was for sure divine intervention! God is so good!!
@nadinekuzinski 29 күн бұрын
Yes, i totally agree with that ❤
@Emma-xm7hx 29 күн бұрын
agreed!!!
@jodijohnson23 29 күн бұрын
Totally. He is a really good teacher. He is a pastor in CA. I need to find some of his messages and listen to it.
@MommaHENsley 29 күн бұрын
Agree! I was thinking he makes so much sense in a very chill way lol
@Cheyenne-vi6fi 29 күн бұрын
Same!!
@LizS817 28 күн бұрын
Jinger won the lottery with him. Very happy she married a spiritually and mentally mature man.
@evette8558 28 күн бұрын
As well as he. She is an angel
@scgraves98 25 күн бұрын
They are few and far between
@melissastevens6051 22 күн бұрын
I love how Jeremy just got up and left the conversation to grab a tissue for Jinger.
@Rumkitty2000 22 күн бұрын
Not to mention, educated and worldly.
@crystalgardner7277 18 күн бұрын
I’d say they BOTH won the lottery!
@Elizabeth-490 24 күн бұрын
Jinger is the most healthy and mature of the siblings I have seen. She and Jeremy have their hearts and heads in the right place, motivated by love for God and others, not spite, not wealth, just love.
@aliceproctor8177 20 күн бұрын
I respect and admire Jill the most. Jinger is a close runner-up.
@MoneyMindsetCoach3 12 күн бұрын
I really like Jill and Derrick too. The documentary Shiney Happy People shows them talking about growing up in the Goddard world
@larrierogers940 15 күн бұрын
Jinger is so beautiful… and you can see that beauty is inside and out. They seem like such a great couple.
@melissahodgson1958 28 күн бұрын
IBLP survivor here. Thank you for this interview. Puzzle pieces are coming together of “Where did I get this from?” This is so healing for me. Thank you for this interview, to all of you.
@SJHbirdwathcher 27 күн бұрын
My family attended seminars and purchased material but were never true IBLP converts. Reading and listening to this type of podcast has helped me to understand so much about myself. It’s been such a blessing to bring clarity to confusion.
@victoriaryanlpcpc8075 27 күн бұрын
This is so interesting.
@katierojas8066 26 күн бұрын
These daughters need to go through religious deconstruction.
@miajones1880 26 күн бұрын
I'm so.sorry. That's not Jesus teachings completely a man's twist. 😢
@Moonchilling 26 күн бұрын
The fear tactics are not only use in the n,as of religion, it’s also used at work, politics, universities, etc.
@UnplannedPodcast 29 күн бұрын
Thank you Jinger and Jeremy for feeling safe enough to open up on our show!
@jenahoffman6671 29 күн бұрын
Jinger and Jill Dugger were my 2 favorite podcasts so far!!!
@michellecarter5456 29 күн бұрын
What happened to peace out dude?!?!
@mindysueloowho 28 күн бұрын
This has been my favourite episode of the podcast so far! Love Jinger & Jeremy ❤ & Matt & Abby too obviously 🙄 lol 😂
@veronicaofert2137 28 күн бұрын
I wholeheartedly agree, this has been one of the best episodes you have done. Kudos to you both for having this lovely couple and other members of the Duggar family on your podcast. Continue to stay true to yourselves. I have really enjoyed watching you evolve in your journey.
@shawnvillelife8311 28 күн бұрын
It seems as if Jinger and Jeremy have not been openly discussing their situation with their friends and family since I heard about Jill Duggar's situation through Jill Duggar's blog
@tiffythorpe 17 күн бұрын
This couple needs their own KZfaq channel teaching healthy, Godly dating/relationships. The world needs more of this content ❤
@Iluvchknz 16 күн бұрын
No they don’t. The world does not need this.
@AK5of8 15 күн бұрын
@@Iluvchknz I agree. These Duggars need to stop talking and live their lives without monetizing it.
@FortheBudgies 13 күн бұрын
What is Godly? Which God? Who decides what qualifies as Godly?
@rachelleh5237 13 күн бұрын
They do have a KZfaq channel.
@kimberly9129 12 күн бұрын
Most all the older girls have their own utube channels.
@therealsmileymailey 22 күн бұрын
I know Jinger and Jeremy personally and they’re this genuine and kind hearted in real life.
@Mammaj1963 27 күн бұрын
Jimbob is regretting the day he allowed Jeremy into the family 😊 I’m so happy for her, they are a great couple , free indeed !
@Amazigh_MaeMae 25 күн бұрын
Prob even more Derrick Dillard. Like with him the family actually has a fued. But not with Jeremy.
@jayneterry8701 23 күн бұрын
Hopefully Jimbob has been influenced by what an excellent, intelligent son in law he has in Jeremy. That he truly loves his daughter like he does.❤
@DasZuckerhaus 21 күн бұрын
@@Amazigh_MaeMaereally? How so?
@mechellepryor4421 21 күн бұрын
Jim Bob couldn’t stop God’s plan. I bet it’s a bit humbling.
@pla5730 17 күн бұрын
@@DasZuckerhausDerrick and Jill had a legal suite for NEVER being paid to be on the show Jimbob kept the money 😮
@anajen2.0 28 күн бұрын
24:38 this part of him explaining how God actually views us who have accepted Jesus made me cry! What a simple and beautiful way to put it. That’s grace!
@kristagates825 27 күн бұрын
Yes! While I didn't grow up in the IBLP, there were some of the same teachings that I did grow up with and hearing that brought tears to my eyes
@twiligh4trinitya 27 күн бұрын
A whole sermon on that alone would be great. ❤
@jenniwilliams3295 26 күн бұрын
I'm not Christian but that was the best breakdown of what Christianity should be I've heard in a very long time. He has an incredible way and I can see that he's probably a very loved pastor
@seedelle3883 24 күн бұрын
That is beautiful. Love Jesus
@Emma_78 23 күн бұрын
I grew up in a church that believed closely to what Jinger believed but it wasn’t under IBLP. I feel like for so long I just followed rules out of fear and not because I loved God. That’s changed. I follow Him because I love Him, and nothing I do or don’t do will change that He loves me. When I realized how God viewed me, it changed my life!
@karid.3547 26 күн бұрын
I just have to stop in the middle of this video to say AMEN!!!! I love that you are preaching about the freedom that we have in Christ and how God sees us the way He sees His son as blameless, righteous, and pure. Not because of anything that we've done but because of what Christ has done. What a witness and so thankful that this platform is being used to bring God glory!!! My favorite episode thus far.
@jpaulis292 23 күн бұрын
Agreed!!
@SusieQZee 22 күн бұрын
Yes & Amen!
@ggmcsassy 26 күн бұрын
I remember watching the show and thinking "Jinger is going to break free from this someday!" What a blessing it is to see her love for Jesus, her respect for her parents and her complete freedom from legalism. Great interview!❤
@joannaprevost426 21 күн бұрын
It does make me think about how her life was like the movie , " The Truman show" as Truman starts to figure out things for himself and realises he is on a set, and we walks out the door to Free himself. ❤
@ameliesayshola8854 14 күн бұрын
There was literally a whole website called Free Jinger at one point. Pretty sure that’s where she got the inspiration for her book title.
@LisaR2392 29 күн бұрын
This is THE BEST interview that i have heard to date with Jinger and Jeremy!! All of the others seem so guarded and scripted. I feel like Jeremy spoke like a normal person and not professional preacher talk. Jinger seemed so much more relaxed and free to speak her mind as well. But everything was done so respectfully as well! Loved it!!
@lisajay9512 15 күн бұрын
Yeah they both seemed relaxed and open here. It was refreshing.
@teresalomanno8916 29 күн бұрын
Honestly the Derick and Jill Dillard and Jinger and Jeremy have been my favorite guests so far! They are so wise and both speak in a way that is honoring but truth. Now I gotta read her book lol
@janafuller6174 29 күн бұрын
If you can you should listen on audible hearing both books from their voices! It’s so powerful!
@paigegillam 29 күн бұрын
Both books are very compelling, I read each in one day!!
@lizkt 28 күн бұрын
I think it was nice that jinger didn't say anything against Jill even though they went about things differently. Like with the money stuff. Although now that I'm thinking about it, jinger probably saw the consequences of Jill fighting the money and realized she didn't want to be shunned the way Jill had been.
@SweetPea6348 27 күн бұрын
@lzkt, That's because Jinger may still get some money from her dad when in need. She also didn't want to stand up to her Parents like Jill did! Jill stood up for herself !
@andreariebel8450 27 күн бұрын
I read it as a former IBLP child and it was terrific.
@imaginarylight17 25 күн бұрын
The way she doesn’t say Josh’s name but makes sure to say Jana and johns. Mad respect.
25 күн бұрын
I noticed that too. He’s such a disgusting monster to those girls.
@joyjohnson8645 24 күн бұрын
Who is Josh? Who is Jana & John? Curious on the context of this comment as I do not know their story.
@TikiTube1991 24 күн бұрын
@@joyjohnson8645Josh is the eldest brother who assaulted Jinger and a few of the other sisters
24 күн бұрын
@@joyjohnson8645 the oldest brother that’s in prison for child pornography.
@JennAmazed 24 күн бұрын
@@joyjohnson8645Josh was abusive to many of the girls in the family. And is currently in prison for child porn. The others are more siblings. They all have J names
@monanana-04 19 күн бұрын
I love how fearless Jeremy is in sharing the truths of marriage and loyalty
@rachelmedling8695 27 күн бұрын
Jinger is the embodiment of “Honor thy father and thy mother”. The respect she shows her parents while staying true to her experience is unreal. My jaw dropped when she said, “Well I can’t speak for my parents” and continued to drop as she kept pulling away from them talking about their parents and instead referring to “the system”.
@christinamanweiler3541 26 күн бұрын
If she does that she's very dispicable
@noorbohamad5796 26 күн бұрын
@@christinamanweiler3541you mean parents tend to be detestable jerks to their daughters like mine yet I’m basically stuck with em lucky me - sarcasm
@mrneveradullmoment 25 күн бұрын
Very different from Jill.
@labab1048 23 күн бұрын
@@mrneveradullmoment how so?
@janicescott6569 16 күн бұрын
I agree with you! Very diplomatic and respectful. I’m sure her parent’s did lots of things right and she still loves and respects them enough not to speak badly of them. Maybe she has forgiven them.
@ksp1i0k1e2 28 күн бұрын
This is the only interview I’ve watched start to finish. I love hearing from genuine individuals who are not out to gain recognition or attention like many (not all) of the mainstream tic tockers. Jinger and Jeremy have pure intentions and have really wise insight they are able to convey to this generation. Thanks for having these guests on your platform Matt & Abby.
@shifuimam 25 күн бұрын
The most delicious irony of the Duggar family is that, so far, every single daughter who has married has ended up defecting from the family ideology. Jim Bob chose his daughter's husbands, and their husbands lovingly and compassionately led them away from a cult of control, isolation, repression, and deception. Every single one. These girls were never treated like whole people by their own parents. They were treated like commodities, and their religion taught them to believe in their own depravity and lack of self-identity. They weren't people; they were vessels. Then they met young men who treated them with dignity and respect, who treated them like whole people. There's no going back to dehumanization once someone you love has affirmed you are, in fact, a whole person deserving of dignity and respect.
@fawnnelson3369 24 күн бұрын
Jessa still follows it.. You never see her in pants, she's doing the same thing her parents did.
@nanaronhano337 24 күн бұрын
@@fawnnelson3369She’s been wearing pants openly in her KZfaq videos.
@trishabaran1521 24 күн бұрын
Well said !
@cmil1051 24 күн бұрын
I think Joy Anna is pretty immersed in the culture still
@tammyblankenship6786 24 күн бұрын
Joy isn't. She and Austin attend a different church too.
@kathryntroyer6503 26 күн бұрын
So much respect for this couple! I grew up Amish and leaving that culture was hard because I loved my people.
@Sunnydreamer1470 24 күн бұрын
Then why leave?
@amymcdonald3761 29 күн бұрын
God brought Jeremy to you for a reason. Theology based on fear is so scary. God is so good, stay in HIS word. You broke free!❤
@cathirodrigo2933 29 күн бұрын
AMEN 🙌🏻❤️ You took the words right out of mouth. ❤❤❤
@michellegamiz9549 29 күн бұрын
Amen
@sashacardenas377 29 күн бұрын
AMEN!!!!!!!🙏🏼🙌🏼❤️‼️
@cbpaddingtonbear2606 29 күн бұрын
I agree although sadly he and jinger are part of Macarthur church who has also used his theology to hurt so many including encouraging a woman to stay with a husband who was SA his own daughter. I hope they leave that church soon too and find one sound in practice and doctrine
@KentuckyNaNasLife 29 күн бұрын
Praise God 🙌🏻 ✨🙌🏻 , he knew What Jinger needed in her Life all along ✨😇✨❣️... They are a Powerful Couple for the younger generation to learn from 😉💭❣️... It 💔 when she cries 😢, that's so Sad n I 🚫 wait to read her book 📚 along with the others Who have been led to write ✍🏻 About their upbringing, I 🚫 say Childhood 🧐 tho Since they really weren't Children 😞❣️... They were in a fishbowl on cameras n raising their siblings n that's Alot 😢❣️... So Sad 😭..
@katienovak3249 29 күн бұрын
I am so happy for Jinger. She found a such a kind guy to share her life with!
@leahbrening1101 25 күн бұрын
The Truman show being the first movie ever to watch is actually amazing. That was a good choice hubby.
@minz55555 21 күн бұрын
I like that Jinger didn't allow Jeremy to talk over her the few times he did it. She's found her voice and it's lovely to see. Great couple.
@catherineenglei7172 17 күн бұрын
🙄
@seforaderecichei9438 28 күн бұрын
Jeremy you're spitting straight Gospel truths, man! Keep sharing the real and true Gospel unapologetically and bravely! May God keep you and sustain you and your family!
@nicolemangum5023 26 күн бұрын
Jeremy, you did such a good job presenting the Gospel in this show. Jinger, thank you for speaking so graciously about your family and for continually pointing back to the truth of Christ and how He has shown you the truth of his character. ❤
@shannonking1096 25 күн бұрын
Jeremy is amazing. Imagine him counseling couples and having to jump through these ridiculous twisted hoops
@tessar.6360 26 күн бұрын
Jinger and Jeremy seem like such a wonderful, loving and level-headed couple!! I give Jinger so much credit for leaving the IBLP - which must have been incredibly hard but only proves how strong she really is. Jeremy seems like a very supportive husband!!
@ronimartin8073 29 күн бұрын
Jeremy taking this opportunity to preach on a podcast is amazing!! Great job Jeremy and jinger by sharing the gospel through your testimony!
@Emma-xm7hx 29 күн бұрын
yess!!! i love it 🥲🥲🥲
@yenyhenriquez54 29 күн бұрын
This 👏🏻
@hannahyoder3114 28 күн бұрын
My thoughts exactly!
@Sarah-sr8zw 26 күн бұрын
amen!!!
@LonestarGypsi 24 күн бұрын
Yes! So well done!
@wandaallbright1957 29 күн бұрын
This was a very thought-provoking conversation and I appreciate how Matt and Abby sat down with them and let them speak for themselves.
@scgraves98 25 күн бұрын
His comments about marriage and love is spot on. So many relationships are so superficial, and so many people don’t understand how love is a choice
@yeehawtomahawk 25 күн бұрын
I could choose to love anyone!
@dorothyturner1948 23 күн бұрын
I haven’t watched the whole thing yet but Jinger and Jeremy are just so intelligent and thoughtful it is so refreshing to hear them reflect with candor and care. What a reflection of the genuine love of God.
@claytonandkatherine 29 күн бұрын
I grew up around Jinger’s family and she truly is such a genuine and sweet human! I loved this episode and hearing more about her life and testimony, great interview Matt and Abby! 🤍
@SweetPea6348 27 күн бұрын
Are you Jingers age ?? Or are you older?? Are all the kids the same ?Do You like her Parents ?
@claytonandkatherine 26 күн бұрын
@@SweetPea6348 I’m actually quite a bit younger than Jinger. I’ve never had a bad experience with any of the Duggars, they’ve always been so genuine and kind to me and my family! They’re honestly such a sweet family.
@valerieking2592 22 күн бұрын
I’ve read over the years many times the folks that knew the Duggar family or would see them around town how genuine and friendly they were. 😊
@claytonandkatherine 22 күн бұрын
@@valerieking2592 Yes! Always friendly and extremely kind. 🥹
@valerieking2592 22 күн бұрын
@@claytonandkatherine I do think there’s something to be said having so many children that as far as I know only one walked away from God. That’s all I know though from the years I watched them. Michele even though she’s a little younger than I am taught me to be more soft spoken to others in my life. I still fail at times but she was a huge example to me as the kind of godly woman I wanted to be. 🥹
@ngulubeprincess5009 27 күн бұрын
Wow, this is what marriage must do for two people. Very moved by their decision to remain respectful to the duggar mum and dad.
@meganbaril7847 26 күн бұрын
So glad they respected and protected her parents who protected her sexual abuser brother.
@JML542 25 күн бұрын
a GOOD marriage can do this for two people.
@kimberlysmith6317 14 күн бұрын
@@meganbaril7847That’s not what’s happening. Sad that you aren’t understanding.
@tashintomorrowland 25 күн бұрын
1:22:09 love how she didn’t even say her “oldest brothers” name 😮💨 she was so smooth with that, good work Jinger… he’s not even worth naming 👏 Happy to see her and Jeremy doing well and not sharing their kids online… they are FREE indeed ❤
@marymactavish 13 күн бұрын
Jinger looked like she had the most spunk, and was the subject of a light-hearted "free Jinger!" movement.
@melody.rose. 27 күн бұрын
They are in SUCH a good, healthy place & relationship with God now. I am so, so in awe listening to them speaking about their life and relationship with the Bible and their faith. I am so glad they have found their place.
@bethany8828 29 күн бұрын
I love that Matt and Abby allowed them to share freely regarding their faith and beliefs.
@themayfamily4869 28 күн бұрын
They share the same beliefs on Christianity cause I believe they were raised with Christian influence by their parents
@ellen3131 17 күн бұрын
So great to see her taking her space. She doesn't let him talk over her, she doesn't look at him the whole time he speaks like her sick parents do. She has found a way to grow and be better for it.
@cindy2252 19 күн бұрын
I attended a "Basic Life Principals" seminar in 1972, my senior year in high school. It was held in a packed coliseum. I actually found the notebook in my hope chest a few years ago. I was shocked to find out that was the religious sect the Duggar family is in. Everybody went, it was pushed in all the Seattle high schools and "Young Life". I keep it, planning to read through it someday. No thank you, however, I do love the Duggar children. I've enjoyed seeing Jinger blossom into the beautiful woman God wants her to be through Jesus our Lord and Savior. The Lord blessed her with a wonderful husband.🙏🏻✝
@sadiecherish9509 29 күн бұрын
I really respect and admire how Jinger doesn’t ever dishonor or put down her parents or family even after reviewing how she grew up in the IBLP system. I see her heart and appreciate her level of understanding for her parents mindset and intentions. It’s also so admirable that she didn’t throw the baby out with the bath water and dismiss her relationship with Jesus. I’m amazed at her resolve and dedication in this journey away from the IBLP system and the grace she has exhibited along every step of the way.
@cbpaddingtonbear2606 29 күн бұрын
Her dad chose her pedo brother over his daughters multiple times. I'm not saying they can't love their parents. But they are clearly conflict avoidance that's ok if what they want but it's not superior to speaking the truth to someone who is practising evil. Jim Bob covered up Josh's crimes and tried to lie about them. The Bible says everything done in the dark will be brought to light. Some conflict is also Biblical.
@julietted8086 29 күн бұрын
This was beautifully put 💗
@taras6578 28 күн бұрын
You need to do an interview with Jinger and Jill together.
@noorbohamad5796 27 күн бұрын
@@taras6578 I guess I’m just curious if like with Jeremy and Derick or without Jeremy and Derick
@madisynpannier707 28 күн бұрын
I loved how Jinger didn’t even say the oldest brother name. His name doesn’t even deserve to be said out loud!
@trishabaran1521 24 күн бұрын
You’re so right! Well said !
@BitOfEvrythingOo0 14 күн бұрын
Rumor has it if you say his name 3 times, he appears in the mirror
@metonya7036 22 күн бұрын
I just love how she is handling the situation. No blame. They raised great children
@vintagepanj 25 күн бұрын
I'm glad they touched on the fact that reading the Bible requires learning and diving into context, historical and author/audience. The Bible was written at a different time, in a different culture, and those influences are present as the Bible was written by men. I also learned what unconditional love was when I had my daughter. The way I saw and felt about her, I was able to connect to how God sees and feels about me. I have so much more peace and joy in my relationship with God now, with that understanding.
@chloewilson7608 29 күн бұрын
I grew up homeschooled with the IBLP background and going to what I called “homeschool camp” which was the Big Sandy conference. In 2018 we started going to the Duggars house every Friday, such a sweet family and I made great friends, we had to wear skirts at Big Sandy and their house which we didn’t have to do in our day to day lives (which was so lukewarm and confusing) my parents say “chew the meet, spit out the bones” (I do not agree with) but long story short. I saw an interview about Jinger releasing her book and she and Jeremy speaking on it, and I completely had a melt down because everything I had known felt like a lie. So my husband surprised me with her book and it completely changed my life. I’m beyond thankful Jinger decided to do what she did. And now have an even closer relationship with God than ever because I’m not scared anymore. The teachings were absolutely confusing and my family/parents still are teaching it. So still have to navigate through that. And still disentangling some things step by step. But I have faith that God has a plan. Thank you Matt and Abby for having them on! I couldn’t wait to watch!
@ggmcsassy 26 күн бұрын
So glad you found your way out of that! The "chew the meat, spit out the bones" CAN be a good way to see life but then again, I can't imagine making my family attend IBLP, wear skirts and "act the part" and pretend .... that would be SO confusing to children! 😥 My dad went to a few IBLP conferences in the 70's but ultimately saw it for what it was. We had a beautifully illustrated book with short stories in it that was a Gothard book and my dad would read to us here and there but would come to a part that was "off" and would say, "okay that's weird.." and skip it. LOL The key is to know scripture and only use that as a measuring stick to all other teachings and ideas!
@333nanette 20 күн бұрын
If I’m recalling correctly… she wrote the book especially for ppl like you. 💕 So glad to read you comment.
@K8theGR8theGIGGLER 28 күн бұрын
i love how jeremy lets her talk and tell her story. always watched the duggars growing up and i really admire jinger for her testimony & keeping her children off social media
@annw1395 14 күн бұрын
Jinger is so well-spoken; and Jeremy, too. So good at expressing their feelings, reasons, and faith. I'm so glad they found each other!
@makaylaharrington6632 21 күн бұрын
Jinger and Jill are my two favorites!!! To see how they both escaped from this “cult” of a nightmare if beyond amazing and wish nothing but luck, love, and support as they both continue to unlearn habits.
@Weeks25 8 күн бұрын
Mine too. Also really liked Jessa. I’m so happy for Jill and Jinger that they were about to get real clarity on everything after getting married. They both married amazing men that seem absolutely perfect for them!
@karenseay2225 29 күн бұрын
I have been a Christian for a long time. Yet. I still struggle with how God sees me because I know I am so imperfect. I so needed to hear this. Thank you, Jinger and Jeremy, for being so transparent and willing to share. Thank you, Matt and Abby, for having them on.
@noorbohamad5796 27 күн бұрын
We’re All imperfect doesn’t really matter perfection as far as I’m concerned just doesn’t really exist in this world
@Sielleis 29 күн бұрын
I loved this episode. I just found out YESTERDAY that a friend I've known for years grew up with the Duggars, went to Bible studies at their house, and played broomball with them as kids. I knew she grew up in a conservative Christian community in Arkansas but I had no idea that she knew them personally. The stories she has are incredible. She said she wants to read Jinger's and Jill's books but hasn't quite gotten to a place in healing from religious trauma that she feels ready without being triggered
@Mary4579 25 күн бұрын
I read both Jinger and Jill’s books. I’m a child abuse survivor so I understand your friend. Prayers
@kate1356 26 күн бұрын
Jinger and her husband are very smart, well-spoken people.
@Jules8294 24 күн бұрын
Jeremy said it best, Gothard kept people entrapped in fear….enslaved. Jinger is such a well spoken and articulate, strong woman
@magic.music.memories 29 күн бұрын
From what I hear from Jill and Jinger, I find it admirable how much they respect their parents and realize that they just wanted the best for them. They give them a lot of grace, and I feel like we should all learn from that.
@patricaowens 26 күн бұрын
Well said.
@Stellalovely1 29 күн бұрын
I love how well Jeremy communicates. It’s so interesting to hear him talk.
@thisnthatcormak 26 күн бұрын
There was a reason that God brought Jeremy into Jinger's life. Major respect for her and Jeremy respecting her parents but still having and making their own thoughts and decisions. This was a very well done interview kudos to you all
@meganthompson7696 17 күн бұрын
Amazing couple all around, grew up watching the show. The amount of respect he still has for her family and her, and is letting her grow… The way he talks about her 🥹
@crystal9301 29 күн бұрын
I had OCD as a teenager, “if I do this will something bad happen?” It sounds like they essentially give hundreds of kids OCD.
@nesser1352 29 күн бұрын
Religious ocd is called scrupulosity
@mommab1969 27 күн бұрын
True OCD is not a curable disorder, it is treatable with behaviour modification and exposure therapy, as well as medication and counselling. One can have tendencies of OCD but not be diagnosed. Scrupulosity is being overly concerned that something one does or thinks might be a sin or violation of religious or moral doctrine.
@kenzieq1 26 күн бұрын
Religious scrupulously
@r.bellbottom8964 17 күн бұрын
All religions and cults do that-try Catholicism on for size! It was all about be good or you will burn in hell (albeit not always that blatant). Guilt to control.
@vickigulley9479 29 күн бұрын
Jeremy, I love your passion for Christ and how you are ministering to so many just through this conversation.
@MicheleTerry-xe7zp 20 күн бұрын
“Jim Bob” is all about control! His control!
@rsmith2812 19 күн бұрын
Jinger, I am so glad that you found the truth in God's Word...and it set you free
@katarinagarza4362 29 күн бұрын
I really pray this planted a seed.
@erb611 29 күн бұрын
Planted a seed in who?
@mariahl.2052 29 күн бұрын
I so agree!!!!!! ❤❤❤
@aj25055 29 күн бұрын
@@erb611her siblings and whoever else grew up that way.
@mariahl.2052 29 күн бұрын
@@aj25055I think we’re both implying that it planted a seed in Matt and Abby’s mind, heart + soul!
@jennjoy4108 28 күн бұрын
@@mariahl.2052 Abby and Matt are Christians!
@ellyne3863 29 күн бұрын
I understand Jinger's parents have their issues, but man did they raise a lovely woman. Jinger is beautiful, well spoken, seems to have a heart of gold and is just an all around lovely human being. Among a lot of wrongs, they certainly did something right.
@cbpaddingtonbear2606 29 күн бұрын
Childre in the IBLP also largely raise themselves. I know this because I was raised with a lot of those teachings. Raising children is rules and fear by and large not actually lovingly shaping the person. I'm not saying her parents did everything wrong but not everything about who Jinger is today is due to her parents. She herself said she was very fearful and a different persons years ago.
@jmcast3195 28 күн бұрын
Agree
@TinaTomassen 28 күн бұрын
Some people are lovely despite their parents.
@Jenny-ls7hf 27 күн бұрын
Really? She is meek, weak and soft in her words. And still believes in a bunch of nonsense hogwash. It’s just slightly different hogwash.
@Jenny-ls7hf 27 күн бұрын
You can tell the guy is more cocky and confident, he seems like a know it all. and she’s more weak. She’s pretty uneducated, which isn’t all her fault since her parents never sent her to school, ever, but she seems the type to be a follower
@basic_CeceRae 16 күн бұрын
I would like to just say,that Jill and Derrick asking questions after receiving a tax statement saying they made income they never received wasn’t them “making things about money” Jim Bob reported that information to the government and they asked for a breakdown. Jill wanted to be financially compensated for a show that had her name in the title and was requiring her and her husband to keep a filming schedule and forgo other streams of income while Jim Bob got paid wasn’t them “making it about money” Jim Bob made things about money when he started selling his family’s time and likeness on television in exchange for material items and money. He then continued to make things about money when he allowed his children to receive a daze and proper wage without him being in control. God loved truth… call a spade a spade. The love of money is wicked even when it’s precious Jim Bob. Poor Jill and Derrick get held to the highest of standards and judged the most harshly but Jim Bob can never do any wrong even when he is guilty of the very issue being discussed. Poor Jill’s muffin is the families scapegoat and Josh(of which no one but Jill will openly truly call out either Josh and the parents for) is the golden children. Truly so sad.
@RalphTubbernackle-pr5tb 21 күн бұрын
They are really grounded. What a beautiful couple.
@leahindisney2822 29 күн бұрын
Loved their perspective so much. I was raised in Christianity and had a lot of fear even around those teachings and Jeremy's breakdown of the word is truly eye opening! Love it.
@joyceadair3003 26 күн бұрын
Raised with healthy Christianity. -Knowing the Lord Jesus was my savior. But none of this weird stuff where it controlled your life completely. You’ve got to use a lot of common sense when learning about the Bible and a relationship with the Lord.
@4lliemac 28 күн бұрын
Just bought the book after listening to this episode! The wisdom and humility Jinger has is so different and unique. And Jeremy's leadership and understanding and probably patience with the whole process is so incredible.
@lauracatesduncan7498 26 күн бұрын
I used to watch the show, but eventually stopped. I have not yet read Jinger's book, but will eventually. I haven't made an effort to keep up with the Duggar family. But I am SO impressed with Jeremy and Jinger's maturity - both human and spiritual. Couples who counsel with him/them before and during married life are fortunate. I'm 66. Married the first time at barely 19. Married second time at age 46. I wish I'd had someone to walk me through the many topics they mentioned in Mr. Duggar's questionnaire before both marriages!!
@maddygvanlifer435 23 күн бұрын
What a beautiful testimony!!! I love this story. I've followed the Duggars since they first aired and watched these kids grow up. I prayed for them to see the truth in the scriptures. God is so good. God bless them. Please have them back sometime soon
@joowen8542 29 күн бұрын
I loved this podcast! The way Jinger and Jeremy talked about their faith and the changing of their faith was beautiful!
@jdoyle7137 29 күн бұрын
My brain is blown already just from the first 20 minutes
@elisa-beary 21 күн бұрын
Love them, she is SO brave & he just seems like the most genuine, respectful guy. They both seemed to help each other grow in different ways. I hope to meet someone that brings that level of calm to my life & helps me to grow in my faith. I am SO happy to see where her journey took her after being put through so much, all while in front of a camera growing up.
@Paco.Sinbad 25 күн бұрын
The fact she came from Michele and Jim bob blows my mind 😮 she turned out to be such a lovely, smart woman.. I hope she continues to find success and continues to speak out
@maolor1603 28 күн бұрын
Absolutely love how respectful ginger and Jeremy are. Great example ❤
@Mumma5boyz 28 күн бұрын
Really good interview. Jinger seems way more natural, compared to her formal tv interviews for her book. She's relaxed here, and really opened up. Great to see.
@dawnk7575 25 күн бұрын
I love that Jinger said that she wants to stay in the good graces of her family and friends to eventually help them out of the IBLP!
@kathy3178 25 күн бұрын
I really appreciate how you let your guests do most of the talking. Also how you didn't bring up all that stuff with Jinger's oldest brother. I really got to hear Jinger and Jeremy's voices.
@vickykulig5080 24 күн бұрын
They also did the same thing with Jill and Derrick. Ultimately it’s not about their oldest brother, it’s them speaking their truth, plus I think they’ve been asked about their oldest brother enough, and it’s emotionally too much.
@ymborges 19 күн бұрын
What happened with the oldest brother? Sorry for asking, I’m lost.
@vickykulig5080 19 күн бұрын
@@ymborgeshe is in prison for possessing CSAM
@SarahBenfield-mn4tj 28 күн бұрын
So thankful for the power of Gods Word. Truth really does set us free! 🙌🏻
@sophigrace8680 27 күн бұрын
Thank you so much, Matt & Abby for having Jinger and Jeremy on! It’s amazing that even after all the IBLP trauma, they still have relationships with Jesus! It was sooo good when Jeremy talked about Jesus’s blood covering everything. No matter where you are in life, no one is too far gone for the love of Jesus. Thanks :) I loved hearing people not afraid to open up about their faith!
@ilTHfeaa 25 күн бұрын
as someone that grew up watching x kids and counting, i love watching all these interviews with jinger and jessa. i wanna read all the books they’ve written and i am so happy that they have gotten away from that environment and i’m glad they realized that it wasn’t a healthy relationship. I liked the show growing up bc i always wanted a big family and i wanted a ton of siblings and such but i hated the fact that the parents were so strict and that they couldn’t hold hands with anyone until they were already like engaged. even at like 8 years old i was like “thats a bit much”
@lilystilo710 27 күн бұрын
This show highlights of how smart Ginger is. Also Jeremey is a very smart man.
@karlabateman234 26 күн бұрын
He really liked and accepted her and her world! He did a lot to be with her. Huge props to him. They seem normal to have gone through all that.
@messtomessenger 14 күн бұрын
it’s stories like these that encouraged me to share my testimony. Jeremy and Jinger’s faith is so refreshing and inspiring! may God bless you both ❤️
@jenniwilliams3295 26 күн бұрын
Jeremy does have a way about him that I would feel like he is a good pastor. There were so many parts where he was clearing up the confusion of the system explaining things in ways that weren't dooming or judgmental but just matter of fact. They're both incredibly classy. They took not just the high road but three layers above that when it came to all of this because she could have blown that family out of the water. And good for knowing that she only wants a couple kids. It must be so freeing having spent your whole childhood terrified that you were going to be a baby factory and getting to choose not to be. Really interesting interview probably my favorite one so far. You guys do a fantastic job of getting interesting deep conversations seem comfortable.
@autumnweldon7314 29 күн бұрын
Jinger, thank you so much for talking about the fear that was engrained in you by these teachings. I also grew up in a church school with similar teachings and constantly lived in fear that I would do something wrong and something bad would happen. It is still hard for me at times to overcome the thoughts and beliefs that were taught to me at a young age.
@maggielarkin6121 29 күн бұрын
Im so happy that you guys are so supportive of your guses so that they feel comfortable opening up love yall podcast ♥️♥️
@optimusmike8680 29 күн бұрын
Bruh they don’t even realize how privileged a fortunate they even are hope ur able to realize that a grow up like they need to !
@joycegill8593 26 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing your view points regarding your book and your life growing up. You show respect and honor to your parents, while at the same time being true to your own convictions! Awesome! Thank you for sharing your story! I'm looking forward to reading your book! God bless ya'll ❤
@audrey30ful 13 күн бұрын
I love how Ginger's faith and relationship with God has actually grown stronger and that Jeremy took the time to bible study with her and help her out of the "fog" of Bill Gothard's teachings. I love that they are still following Jesus together and that it didn't turn her away from following Him. God bless them. Lots of love ❤
@brynneagar9491 29 күн бұрын
What’s sad is that Jinger is essentially saying that if she makes a big deal about not getting paid from the show her parents will disown her. That’s just so messed up.
@cbpaddingtonbear2606 29 күн бұрын
She knows what happened to Jill. Sadly money clearly matters to Jim Bob more than his own children
@laurat7324 27 күн бұрын
I understand why they didn't push it but I am so glad that Derick and Jill did. (Probably owe that to Derick more than Jill but...) People need to know that those kids were making money for the show and not being given any of it. And it's wrong. I really respect Jill and Jinger both even with different approaches.
@AlexisGlover-yp6il 26 күн бұрын
I don't think that's what she's saying at all. Though I can see how it can be perceived that way. People are driven by different things. Her sister pushing for the money is not wrong, because she deserves to be paid. But some people are genuinely not driven by money. I think what Jinger is saying is that if there's any chance she can maintain a relationship with her family, she will do it. But it's on her terms. I think both sisters are awesome and went about it so awesome.
@RachaelNelson-df3qc 25 күн бұрын
Kids parts was to placed in A trust fund
@margenn3889 21 күн бұрын
@@RachaelNelson-df3qcI don't think there is a trust fund!
@landrumfam1231 29 күн бұрын
I've always liked Jinger She was one of my favorites from the show. I'm glad she got out of that life.
@jenniwilliams3295 28 күн бұрын
I remember thinking she's going to be the one that rebels. Not the first but she definitely did. Thank goodness each of them that gets out of it.
@2123babygirl 25 күн бұрын
Love how they support each and how Jeremy help Jinger to see the truth
@karahope8249 26 күн бұрын
Thank you Matt for also saying you wanted Jinger and Jeremy to be heard as they wanted to be- I think you guys did a great job with this!
@jennmohammed09 27 күн бұрын
Jinger and Jeremy have quickly become some of my favorite "influencers". They are both so well spoken and truly seem like genuine, good people. ❤
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