Unraveling the Strange Legacy Of Sweet P- Adventure Time

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11 ай бұрын

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Today we will be Unraveling the Strange Legacy Of Sweet P- An Adventure Time Discussion!
Join me as we do a brief analysis on the Adorable and DANGEROUS Sweet P. How he's connected to the lich, the primordials, the catalyst comets, and finn the human. We'll also go over his struggle against his evil alterior self, powers, and the reason for why he almost became a king of ruin. We got A LOT to go over and some Lich DT to do so hope you enjoy learning about SP in this adventure time video!
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@TrueLocalEnthusiast
@TrueLocalEnthusiast 11 ай бұрын
Sorry for the reused clips, video got claimed 8 TIMES! For SP clips so I decided to just use pre edited videos. Hope you guys enjoy, more shorts, videos, STUFF IN GENERAL coming soon so AS ALWAYS I WILL SEE YOU IN THE NEXT VIDEO BYE 👋
@oompa1274
@oompa1274 11 ай бұрын
Must be some kind of record for one video
@nJudas
@nJudas 11 ай бұрын
Love the new pfp
@alirezaomrani7650
@alirezaomrani7650 11 ай бұрын
Still waiting for that video explaining the cosmic hierarchy of the Multiverse and where all the gods and cosmic entities stand with one another.
@abrasiontest6954
@abrasiontest6954 11 ай бұрын
My sweet little pea come here and get grandma's apple pie mmm 😘
@TrueLocalEnthusiast
@TrueLocalEnthusiast 11 ай бұрын
@@oompa1274 Pretty sure it is 🤔
@olly123451
@olly123451 11 ай бұрын
I like the idea that sweet pea’s childhood innocence and general silliness is constantly driving the Lich inside him absolutely mad, and there’s nothing he can do about it.
@SweatierAcorn
@SweatierAcorn 11 ай бұрын
Kinda makes me think of frieza's hell from dragon ball super
@kingbubbles9461
@kingbubbles9461 11 ай бұрын
I like to imagine the lich is a bit sympathetic to Sweet Pea because of the ending of gold stars The Lich didn't have to do that. It likely would have been easier to corrupt Sweet Pea if the Lich had just let the Orchard burn down and let Sweet Pea's parents get killed.
@ProfessionalHumanTrash
@ProfessionalHumanTrash 11 ай бұрын
@@kingbubbles9461 honestly i can see that happen, but in the sense that the lich taught they were pathetic, you know? so he just scared them shtless beacuse cmon, its a fcking kid. the lich isnt evil, he is a natural force.
@tmbpotatoe5975
@tmbpotatoe5975 10 ай бұрын
​@@SweatierAcornoh yeah, i bet the lich is super pissed off like frieza.
@gimme33
@gimme33 9 ай бұрын
@@SweatierAcornI was just going to fucking say
@_NIKOS9_NIKOS
@_NIKOS9_NIKOS 11 ай бұрын
Imagine growing up in a world with a mountain sized Sweet P as it's hero. I always thought that if Finn was the one who mentored him in the ways of a hero, it would be interesting if Sweet P ended up inspiring Shermy (Finn's reincarnation) into also wanting to become a hero aswell. Those would be some very big shoes to fill!
@StarbornCthulhu
@StarbornCthulhu 11 ай бұрын
I mean it would have been full circle with Billy mentoring Finn mentoring Sweet P mentoring Shermy
@HappyTheFan
@HappyTheFan 11 ай бұрын
​@@StarbornCthulhu a missed opportunity imo
@GeneralTaco155555a
@GeneralTaco155555a 11 ай бұрын
@@StarbornCthulhu bro, Sweet P being Billy reincarnated is the coolest Adventure Time idea I've ever heard, that's crazy good. I now accept that to be 100% true lol The Lich stole his body, and he stole the Lich's, and ensures he can never come back just by nature of his soul being too strong for the Lich to overpower.
@dumpsterDeity
@dumpsterDeity 11 ай бұрын
@@StarbornCthulhu also Billy was killed by Lich, and Lich then took his form in order to deceive Finn. And Finn had to watch his mentor's body fall apart revealing Lich inside the parallels omg 😱 Poor Shermy though. He's going to be so traumatized
@hkayakh
@hkayakh 11 ай бұрын
Yeah Sweet P would be like Billy to Shermy
@voidanims
@voidanims 11 ай бұрын
Sweet p holding back the embodiment of evil is just insane
@TrueLocalEnthusiast
@TrueLocalEnthusiast 11 ай бұрын
Bro's a CHAD
@wyslanniknewworldorder9525
@wyslanniknewworldorder9525 11 ай бұрын
@@TrueLocalEnthusiast *GIGA* CHAD _Ba dum tss._
@tmbpotatoe5975
@tmbpotatoe5975 10 ай бұрын
that just shows you how strong he's mind is.
@funniestguy
@funniestguy 7 ай бұрын
so we're just gonna ignore betty, who literally became golb
@madmantheepic7278
@madmantheepic7278 7 ай бұрын
To be clear, the Lich is the embodiment of death of all life, Princess Bubblegum is the embodiment of evil 🗿
@gideonaniakwa4687
@gideonaniakwa4687 11 ай бұрын
"Evil evil evil evil evil" The lich trying to take over sweet pea😂😂
@TrueLocalEnthusiast
@TrueLocalEnthusiast 11 ай бұрын
I was hoping someone would like that 😂
@MrVoyeurific
@MrVoyeurific 11 ай бұрын
Old flame king trick
@ivancio943
@ivancio943 11 ай бұрын
A classic
@dumpsterDeity
@dumpsterDeity 11 ай бұрын
I don't remember, was there a part where Hanson did that "evil evil" whisper to Marceline? I know Flame King did it to FP. It'd be funny if it was like an evil dad meme in the AD universe
@ProfessionalHumanTrash
@ProfessionalHumanTrash 11 ай бұрын
@@TrueLocalEnthusiast i was genuinly dying of laughter at that part.
@demi-femme4821
@demi-femme4821 11 ай бұрын
Sweet P is essentially a fusion of whoever the Lich's original vessel was and Billy, which would make him pretty strong just by virtue of Billy being in the mix.
@TrueLocalEnthusiast
@TrueLocalEnthusiast 11 ай бұрын
Easily makes him the perfect vessel
@darthmaul7434
@darthmaul7434 11 ай бұрын
The fact it used to be Billy's skeleton before being taken over by the lich and then Sweet Pete is probably the reason why he became a great hero in the future.
@Idyllwyld
@Idyllwyld 11 ай бұрын
He’s Giorno Giovanna
@ThiccFurryBoi34
@ThiccFurryBoi34 11 ай бұрын
He’s Billy and lich love child what a twist and hilarious hahahahaha
@mohnoh8854
@mohnoh8854 11 ай бұрын
I don't understand what Billy has to do with this, how does he interfere in the mix Do you mind explain it
@dwerical
@dwerical 11 ай бұрын
The idea of Finn being the one that mentored Sweet P is just so sweet.
@wyslanniknewworldorder9525
@wyslanniknewworldorder9525 11 ай бұрын
Ironic.
@DarkOmegaMK2
@DarkOmegaMK2 7 ай бұрын
p
@hattoripool1533
@hattoripool1533 11 ай бұрын
I imagine had the show kept going Sweet P and the Lich would have basically been a Bruce Banne/Hulk type of thing in fact I would love to see a alternate version of the Lich who succeeded with turning Sweet P into another him
@TrueLocalEnthusiast
@TrueLocalEnthusiast 11 ай бұрын
That reality is doomed...
@AceAlbatros
@AceAlbatros 11 ай бұрын
Hands down agreed
@Emma-Queenofhell
@Emma-Queenofhell 11 ай бұрын
It's probably more a Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde thing
@Joseph-hi7yx
@Joseph-hi7yx 11 ай бұрын
But The fight tho, Legendary
@LuneKidYT
@LuneKidYT 11 ай бұрын
moreso an itadori/sukuna type of dynamic imo
@charlieputzel7735
@charlieputzel7735 11 ай бұрын
I can see Sweet pea ensuring that his body is somehow destroyed when he dies, like casting it in the sun. Or, possibly (and sadly) he actively commits suicide at some point when he's nearing his end. Alternatively, I could see him training up a new hero to be able to defeat him specifically.
@TrueLocalEnthusiast
@TrueLocalEnthusiast 11 ай бұрын
Imagine he becomes an incredibly tragic hero and ends up getting defeated by Finn's reincarnation or something. Man so much potential
@Alovon
@Alovon 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, def would see an elder Sweet P being one to have contingency on contingency on the occurrence of the Litch taking over his body at any point.
@titisTyrant
@titisTyrant 11 ай бұрын
@@TrueLocalEnthusiast Basically like Billy.
@cmp4237
@cmp4237 11 ай бұрын
Or this is one other possibility. If the sword Sweet Pea carries suppresses evil entities like Hutson: what if he request the sword to be chained or bound to his corpse? So that if the Lich was waiting for Pea to die he can't take over his body anyway.
@Cri_Jackal
@Cri_Jackal 11 ай бұрын
"Okay so, Shermy, there's this BIG THING I need to trust you with." "OH WOW HELLS YEAH A HERO'S PROMISE WITH BIG PEA!" "After I die, you're gonna need to kill me again, so that everyone you know and love, and everyone who will ever be known and loved can survive." "🙁"
@glidershower
@glidershower 11 ай бұрын
I think one aspect that is overlooked is the agonizing pain the Lich was in by being made alive again, or for the first time ever. Imagine having to relive the forgotten pain of existence by being built fiber by fiber, nerve by nerve, and having to put up with it for as long as your host lives - Which considering Sweet P's age, that he looks like a man just getting on his late 20's by being 1000 years old, could mean he's there for the ride for the next 8 to 10k years. And chances are, if the night sword is buried with him when that happens, it will be even longer -perhaps far faaar longer, if one sees Coconteppi as an example. But in any case, well, the Lich is arrogant because he knows his place in the timewheel - he'll eventually bring the end. Ironically, chances are good that the moment he reaches his goal he aimply vanishes, in order for creation to begin again.
@DigitalPand3mic
@DigitalPand3mic 11 ай бұрын
Honestly you're most likely right. Either sweet p just dies of old age or never dies, either way the lich is gonna suffer until the end...literally.
@tmbpotatoe5975
@tmbpotatoe5975 10 ай бұрын
well that's what he gets for the destruction and such, but yeah, living through that torture would be a pain in he's boney butt.
@vullord666
@vullord666 9 ай бұрын
Something I liked is that as adventure went on it changed from good vs evil to creation vs destruction and order vs chaos/entropy. The Lich in of itself is just apart of the cycle and it’s actually kinda beautiful. Things inevitably end but its from that end we’re allowed to see change, growth, and expansion. We saw in the farm world timeline where Finn wished the Lich away that all that happened was he delayed the world’s destruction. By doing so he also increased the pain some experienced and left that world ill prepared for the cycle with the lich. The Lich is like the fire that burns down the tallest trees in the forest to let new ones grow and keep things healthy. His role is really rather sad. Whereas Finn is allowed to enjoy his life and form connections with the people he helps, the Lich is just supposed to show up, destroy everything, and then F off. Its 100% inevitable that the Lich rises and destroys again, but its also inevitable that a hero rises and the world rebuilds and new life grows following that.
@theenderdestruction2362
@theenderdestruction2362 7 ай бұрын
​@@vullord666 the mental image I have now is that fin and the lich in the end of all things where the void lays, just play cards and are buddy's, then the cosmic imagination goes up to them and says "yo new cycle you guys good" and they nod and they start all over again
@chillcloak
@chillcloak 7 ай бұрын
Well, through the most recent episode of Fionna and Cake we know now that the Lich doesn’t just vanish. He alone remains in eternal solitude, existing without purpose.
@hattoripool1533
@hattoripool1533 11 ай бұрын
I wonder if it’s theoretically possible for Sweet P to learn some of the Lich’s spells like that necrotic mist breath he used on Prismo
@TrueLocalEnthusiast
@TrueLocalEnthusiast 11 ай бұрын
I mean he can use them but it'll probably result in him falling to the dark of he overuses them. Drawing power from the lich is never a good idea 😅
@Gr3nadgr3gory
@Gr3nadgr3gory 11 ай бұрын
He'd probably be more likely to use the word soul magic the Litch uses.
@creepingwillow1579
@creepingwillow1579 7 ай бұрын
Bro is not ichigo
@taigaseji
@taigaseji 6 ай бұрын
@@creepingwillow1579yes he is, blud just has to tap into his hollow form
@raydapunk9085
@raydapunk9085 11 ай бұрын
I don't know why, but the lich just whispering evil into sweet p's ear is the funniest thing. It just makes me laugh so hard.
@salt-emoji
@salt-emoji 11 ай бұрын
Little correction. While pretty much all primordials seek only power, wealth, lust and carnage. Tthe lich cares only for death. He is not evil, he is inevitable. The final moments for all.
@dmetriusmarch
@dmetriusmarch 11 ай бұрын
But he isnt death, he doesnt want natural destruction
@Gr3nadgr3gory
@Gr3nadgr3gory 11 ай бұрын
No, he is mass death, not destined death. Destined death comes without passion, merely doing its job with no more pleasure than a garbage man. The litch demands to kill all with the religious fevor of a crusader eliminating heresy.
@Dinoboy3060
@Dinoboy3060 11 ай бұрын
Hol Up LUST? Is that confirmed Anywhere? Is there a Horny Primordial In Space What do they do to the Planets they find? what's their powers like
@jirojhasuo2ndgrandcompany745
@jirojhasuo2ndgrandcompany745 11 ай бұрын
Death cares about Death. Lich is Entropy.
@hasogon
@hasogon 11 ай бұрын
​@@Dinoboy3060 Tree trunks is definitely a primordial
@tatoulino515
@tatoulino515 11 ай бұрын
I feel it is important to remember that the body that was turned into Sweetpee did not originally belong to the lich, it was Billy's corpse that was possessed by the lich. So it would be more appropriate to compare Sweetpee's situation to what bubblegum went through when she was possessed. Also, I'd be more inclined to believe that the lich can die since he is a reincarnation of a catalyst comet just like fin, and he found himself in the deadworld after being slain.
@danielthecake8617
@danielthecake8617 7 ай бұрын
It was his skin, not the full corpse.
@reddrahvett623
@reddrahvett623 6 ай бұрын
​@@danielthecake8617t was his corpse, the Litch didn't have his original vessel when he took over Billy's body.
@Red_MOON187
@Red_MOON187 6 ай бұрын
​@@reddrahvett623 The Lich can turn to necrotic Mist and transform his skeleton at will, like when he wore Billy's skin, hiding his horns beneath. It was definately Billy's flesh that was regenerated from the citadel gaurdian blood. Probably a mix of Lich and Billy in Sweet-P, seeing how different he is from the two.
@ThatCaveMan20
@ThatCaveMan20 11 ай бұрын
The idea the Lich is still within Sweet Pea as a ticking time bomb is terrifying. Makes me wonder in the 1000+ years he's been alive, if Sweet Pea has been thinking of ways to either destroy his own body so the Lich can't harness his corpse and gain full power or somether equally crazy idea. It would not stop the Lich but it would continue to stop his deeds and it be one last middle finger from Sweet Pea to the Lich.
@TCC180
@TCC180 11 ай бұрын
I think Sweet P is actually equal parts Lich and Billy, seeing as the lich's ghost possesses Billy's physical body, or as Prismo puts it, is "a ghost wearing a dead guy" when the body is repaired by the guardian blood. The bones themselves may have been reshaped by the lich's energy somehow, sort of like how Farmworld Jake changes to take on the appearance of the lich (it is unknown whether or not farmworld jake has alien stretching powers in his pre-mutated dog body). The Nightsword is shown to bind Hunson Abadeer, and perhaps on Sweet P.'s Passing/the lich taking over, it will bind the Lich the same way? That may be why he carries it with him, since besides "rule of cool" there's little need for a giant to wield a sword otherwise.
@danielthecake8617
@danielthecake8617 7 ай бұрын
It stole his skin, not hie body.
@emeralddiscordian3116
@emeralddiscordian3116 7 ай бұрын
​@@danielthecake8617prismo literally said he was a ghost wearing a dead guy. The lich doesn't have a true physical form he always inhabits other bodys, he lost his original physical form, that farmworld pretty much confirms is a mutated human or other creature and inhabited princess bubblegum and than the snail. It literally makes zero sense he is just wearing the skin. Where did the skeleton come from? The snail?
@schemar17
@schemar17 7 ай бұрын
​@@emeralddiscordian3116the skeleton is the same skeleton from his first appearance, Billy doesn't have horns
@emeralddiscordian3116
@emeralddiscordian3116 7 ай бұрын
@@schemar17 explain farm world lich then? he has horns as Jake. The lich can clearly mold the body of his host. His original host was destroyed. Prismo literally say he is a ghost wearing a dead guy. The lich doesn't have a true physically form.
@schemar17
@schemar17 7 ай бұрын
@@emeralddiscordian3116 the lich having horns is something he just has, for example he has horns as a catalyst comet. The lich still had his original body when be attacked and killed Billy. He just wore him as a suit
@bensmall2602
@bensmall2602 10 ай бұрын
I always saw sweet p as a sort of "anti-lich". My theory was that sweet p is in fact a primordial who embodies gentleness, innocence, and happiness. That's why he's able to keep the lich contained, a sort of yin-yang type symbiosis
@TheBigE9999
@TheBigE9999 11 ай бұрын
Death might not be a factor here regarding the lich's escape. Hear me out, they're tied at the soul, which means Sweet P could probably drag the Lich with him into the dead worlds, at which point, there's two options. The Lich's soul would make it so they're stuck in dead world 1, never leaving. Option 2 is that sweet P is so good that he can drag the lich into a new reincarnation, which wouldn't completely erase the lich, but it does mean he has to deal with a brand new person to keep up the fight
@Lumberjack_king
@Lumberjack_king 11 ай бұрын
That sounds awesome
@GreaterGrievobeast55
@GreaterGrievobeast55 11 ай бұрын
That might be a bad idea actually, when farm world Lich made it to the dead worlds he ended up corrupting new death and throwing off the scales of life and death which caused chaos. Even after they iced new death, it looked like he was about to finesse his way into corrupting mr fox when he became new new death before Jake chucked him away. The main timeline lich would probably be able to cause even more havoc if it has a chance to separate from sweet pea once they become incorporeal.
@electrobob992
@electrobob992 7 ай бұрын
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 Though it is possible that them sharing a body results in their souls being bound together. Bound with possible handcuffs essentially. With Sweet Pea able to use certain skills of the Lich's to control him, namely his word ability. Just Sweet Pea uttering "SILENCE and OBEY". Lich be like "I can't move on my own accord or talk, or kill... This bites!" Letting the souls they pass to pelt the lich with fruit and such, with the lich being unable to do anything. Both get summoned to life, who basically blows the lich's mind being all "Mass death can't happen without life", as well as saying "You've already been replaced by another scholar" *The Lich Hand btw*. Has them both reincarnate as twins, a warrior and a sorcerer of flames. The lich would still be a killer in this new life, but no longer a mass scale. Think brothers on two different sides fighting forever.
@Talc_Power
@Talc_Power 11 ай бұрын
The main reason I believe Sweet P managed to live so long was simply because of the fact that the lich got completely covered in citadel guardian blood, which, with a constant source of it, kept those held in the citadel young for god knows how long. That also might explain his visual similarities to primordials, but that's a bit of a leap in logic. 😅
@JazzyWaffles
@JazzyWaffles 11 ай бұрын
Billy is Finn's hero who subdued the Lich, if temporarily. Billy was then killed and possessed by the Lich. The Lich then became Sweet P., who was then mentored by Finn. Sweet P. subdued the Lich and presumably became SHERMY'S hero... If history repeats itself, or even rhymes, we might be looking at the end of Sweet P in Shermy's near future, with the Lich breaking out and killing & possessing Sweet P. before Shermy finds a way to subdue him again. Sweet P is just the new Billy. :(
@druebio851
@druebio851 6 ай бұрын
The new replaces the old, thats how it always is
@barrybend7189
@barrybend7189 7 ай бұрын
I think Sweet P is more a prison for the litch. As when sweet P dies it would be at the end of life anyway. As of the newest show the litch might end up getting his wish but the torture is it's not going to be by his hand.
@quaktoons331
@quaktoons331 11 ай бұрын
I wonder if Shermy and Beth will have to defeat a mountain sized sweet P. Do you think Shermy and Beth consider Sweet P to be their times Billy? The Night Sword has an eye, could it be alive, is it Sweet P's best friend?
@TrueLocalEnthusiast
@TrueLocalEnthusiast 11 ай бұрын
It's definitely possible, I don't see any other hero to be as powerful as him at the time 😅 The sword is cursed and partially sentient
@quaktoons331
@quaktoons331 11 ай бұрын
@@TrueLocalEnthusiast Who do you think could pose a threat to Sweet P at his mountainous size? I can't imagine SP using his giant sword on a non-threatening opponent.
@GreaterGrievobeast55
@GreaterGrievobeast55 11 ай бұрын
SWEET P! HE'S THE GREATEST WARRIOR EVAH A HERO THAT'S RENOWNED! HE SCARED AN EVIL KING AND KEEPS INNER LICH BOUND!
@quaktoons331
@quaktoons331 11 ай бұрын
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 I see what you're getting at: "Who's the greatest warrior ever? A hero of renown! Who slayed an Evil Ocean? Who cast the Lich King down? Billy! And that time the evil Fire Count, captured a damsel fair Who saved her with such bravery? She offered him her hair Billy! Also, he fought a bear! Billy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
@lonelysoul7661
@lonelysoul7661 11 ай бұрын
​@@GreaterGrievobeast55 SWEET P!!!!!!!!!!!
@elleofthewilds
@elleofthewilds 11 ай бұрын
Okay, but wouldn't sweet p actually be a rebooted form of billy, considering it was billy's body that the lich was inhabiting, and sweet p just has connection to the lich because the lich was in Billy's body when finn rebooted him?
@TrueLocalEnthusiast
@TrueLocalEnthusiast 11 ай бұрын
Not really, aside from a metal ring that the lich added for his disguise the skeleton was clearly different than Billy. Though it's clear the Lich's essence mutates ANYONE he possesses. By all means it could be a combo of both.
@elleofthewilds
@elleofthewilds 11 ай бұрын
@@TrueLocalEnthusiast makes sense
@chocolatemilklover8532
@chocolatemilklover8532 11 ай бұрын
@@TrueLocalEnthusiast thou it would make sense on why sweet pea not only was good from the start but also become a hero of legends in the future just like billy.
@SweatierAcorn
@SweatierAcorn 11 ай бұрын
Wasn't his Billy disguise just skin deep? One blast to the face and the skin just blows away revealing the lich.
@rodcrisabutin7952
@rodcrisabutin7952 11 ай бұрын
​@@SweatierAcornmaybe or maybe not he might have gained Billy's body via possession and slowly corrupted it from the inside via a slow takeover leaving only the skin for a disguise who knows what sort of magic he invoked from the book since it wasn't a full powered lich at that, and we only got a tidbit of info from the dream finn had
@MythX_StoryTeller
@MythX_StoryTeller 11 ай бұрын
Theres one thing we tend to overlook when it comes to the Lich and it's one of those things that actually makes him a rare type of villain- the successful villain. Although we know the Lichs ultimate goal is the spread of death, he had one specific mission- gain the Enchiridion and travel to all dimensions. He did that. In Distant Lands, we saw another version of the Lich but theres a legion of Liches outside of Ooo. The Maid did nothing to stop that. Plus, referring again to Distant Lands, a lot had seemed to happen regarding the age and deaths of many of the series characters. By that time, New Death was in control, but the Lich was the literal "right hand of death". Could we take that as a symbol, that the Lich was in some way successful outside of Ooo? While Sweet P may be a living incarnation of the Lich (and thus, Ooos version of the Lich), I could think of another reason why the Night Sword was inheritted- battling the Lich, inside and out, as in, from outer worlds. Not that the Lich would return to Ooo for something like vengeance or what not, but given the Lichs motivations, hed inevitably return to Ooo. Or, perhaps, already had by the time we see 1K Sweet P. It's my belief that by the time we see 1K Sweet P, that he is on his way on some quest. The mountain (Mt. Cragdor), is associated w heroes bc it was the resting place of the Enchiridion, suggesting to me some kind of heroic quest. I dont think it's far fetched to suggest that Finn & Sweet P probably adventured some after Jake passed away, which is why he inherited the Night Sword. Finn was certainly taken w the way he smote the Lich.
@SoulOfJustice1994
@SoulOfJustice1994 11 ай бұрын
Back during the universe before time, the Lich may have taken over a young Primordial, supressing it for as long as he existed. But the events at the Citidel broke that vice grip and Sweet Pea, whoever he used to be, slowly came back to himself. That does not take the Catalyst Comet reincarnation schtick into account, though, so I am most likely completely wrong.
@j.a.c3350
@j.a.c3350 11 ай бұрын
i like the idea of sweet pea being a mentor of Finn's and also the idea that his primordial power keeps him from aging quickly.
@marcusblackwell2372
@marcusblackwell2372 11 ай бұрын
But why would the Green Comet actually choose to have a vessel that isn't bent on destruction?
@TrueLocalEnthusiast
@TrueLocalEnthusiast 11 ай бұрын
Tbf it wasn't entirely planned but if he managed to pull it off imagine a mountain sized, near indestructible, full power Lich
@cacyk4103
@cacyk4103 11 ай бұрын
​@@TrueLocalEnthusiast yeah high risk high reward
@Yukito710
@Yukito710 11 ай бұрын
I imagine the lich is inherently physically weak because that's what it wroughts; material rot, technically entropy. Sweet P is the literal inversion of that; this is the fluidity of life at work. Beings so grand, they appear unchanging; yet impacted so dramatically by the people in their lives that they literally age before our eyes. Like Betty aging Golb, lol. Literally legendary.
@GreaterGrievobeast55
@GreaterGrievobeast55 11 ай бұрын
Well, this vessel wasn't really chosen, it was fabricated against the lich's will. Finn lobbed citadel blood all over the guardian and such! If nothing else it's more like the lich making the best out of a currently bad situation
@TrueLocalEnthusiast
@TrueLocalEnthusiast 11 ай бұрын
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 exactly!
@Fanartist-Kitty
@Fanartist-Kitty 11 ай бұрын
Sweet pea might have a plan or is looking for a plan to incase the lich, as hes should know that the lich will bid his time as long as it takes
@TrueLocalEnthusiast
@TrueLocalEnthusiast 11 ай бұрын
I wish we got a Sweet P spin off and he's got an eternal quest to suppress the lich. Could be fun
@willropa4226
@willropa4226 6 ай бұрын
I'd imagine if Sweet P ever was nearing that point where the Lich could return, he'd have a few safeguards ready to stop the Lich's return. The guy's had 1000 years to think about it and maybe 1000 years more to prepare for it, he knows more about the Lich than probably anybody else. Plus, if all else fails, he's still got Finn's reincarnations to help him if need be. He might not know who or what they are, but I doubt Finn's heroic blue comet nature would prevent him from stepping up to defeat the Lich in any form he takes.
@elbunko_
@elbunko_ 11 ай бұрын
oh my god. i never actually realized that most of the major primordials we have seen are some kind of yellow or yellow-adjacent color (for example, lich being green, orgalorg being yellow, coconteppi being orange) and thats honestly a pretty sweet detail
@michaelsarmiento3362
@michaelsarmiento3362 11 ай бұрын
Here is another Adventure Time what if idea: What If Flame King Raised Flame Princess? What do I mean by this? Well, in the original Adventure Time timeline, Princess Bubblegum imprisoned Flame Princess in the lantern because she is dangerous and because of this, Flame Princess didn't receive a childhood. She wasn't freed from the lantern until Jake arrives in the Fire Kingdom so that he can find Finn a girlfriend. But what if that never happened? What If Flame King raised Flame Princess personally and train her to use her powers properly and control it better so that she wouldn't be dangerous in the future. Plus, since Flame King believe that the citizens of the Fire Kingdom is evil, what if Flame King gave her daughter a proper childhood and raised her to be evil. Because of this, what would Flame Princess relationship with Finn be now if Phoebe was given a proper childhood, get better training of her powers because she is the most powerful flame person ever, and not imprisoned in the lantern for 14 years.
@TrueLocalEnthusiast
@TrueLocalEnthusiast 11 ай бұрын
She'd be a more controlled nuclear weapon...
@ThiccFurryBoi34
@ThiccFurryBoi34 11 ай бұрын
She would be a evil girlfriend that would either stalk Finn or be a villain but interested in Finn but won’t show it or both either way it would be fun if Finn was in founders island and raised and be like his mom
@cesarvictoriano8072
@cesarvictoriano8072 7 ай бұрын
Remember Sweet P wasn’t shown between when Lich was first turned into him, it skipped right to Farmworld Lich. Indicating he might have actually overcame the Lich in him or Sweet P would’ve been shown regardless.
@MidoriNatsume
@MidoriNatsume 11 ай бұрын
There might be a way for Sweet P to stop the Litch from returning, although a sad one: if he used the Night Blade on himself, he would die, but the power of the sword could seal the Litch inside Sweet P's lifeless body. The only way to free the Litch would be to extract the sword from his body, but at that point the body might as well been terraformed into a mountain, so good luck with that.
@Cre9
@Cre9 11 ай бұрын
Oh my god you legend! I’ve been here since you were at a few thousand subs now you have 50,000!!!! Great work!
@oompa1274
@oompa1274 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for finally doing a video involving the 1000 year timeskip. It's been talked about quite alot but I think it's a very interesting period in adventure time history
@handan3786
@handan3786 11 ай бұрын
Could you consider Sweet Pea a death giant based on his connection to the Lich?
@lulufan100
@lulufan100 11 ай бұрын
I'm so happy I found this channel, I really enjoy these videos. Keep up the great work!
@Lucidbenjamin
@Lucidbenjamin 11 ай бұрын
Yes!!!! Idk why I’ve gotten into adventure time lore, but I’m so glad you are doing this. Keep it up.
@Connor43113
@Connor43113 11 ай бұрын
Great video! After having re-watched the series countless times over the years, I always find myself drawn to the Sweet P and BMO centered episodes the most. The AT writers are great at crafting sweet bubbly characters, with a ton of darkness hiding beneath the surface. I would love to see Sweet P play a mentor role to Beth and Shermy if the series were to be revived.
@ghostsurfer23
@ghostsurfer23 11 ай бұрын
Sweet P is definitely related to Billy, I would say. It's possible that while the Lich was on the Citadel, the remainder of Billy's flesh fell away, but I don't see that as the case. Remember, we've seen the Lich become a completely intangible shadow before possessing Bubblegum, the Snail, etc. The Lich doesn't have a physical body, just a vessel that it's stealing. So the bones that Sweet P's body grew around, though mutated, are still Billy's bones. That's likely why Sweet P looks so close to human, because the sap regrew the body without all the mutagen impurities. I think it would be neat if in the years of Sweet P growing into a hero, his teen and young adult years essentially, we see Billy commune with him along with the Lich, the same way Billy talked to Finn in the stars. That would give Sweet P a good balance of influence, and ultimately make him better-equipped to choose his own path, which I think is exactly what his arc is about.
@eudstersgamersquad6738
@eudstersgamersquad6738 11 ай бұрын
Just finished binge watching all your adventure time lore vid playlist. Absolutely loved all of them! I have subscribed and hit the bell button! These vids are awesome! All the details fit within such short video. I’m someone that likes longer videos usually, but these vids just put so much into such a small period of time.
@hugopershagen5719
@hugopershagen5719 11 ай бұрын
I am looking forward to the character analysis about Sweet P. Also I like that you have changed your icon from The Lich to Orgalorg 👍
@goofywill90
@goofywill90 11 ай бұрын
Interestingly enough probably becomes Finn's student and replaces him. He will probably become the new Billy with a twist. When he dies or gets too old the Lich will return. So if he was to meet and Beth and Shermy. He will be their greatest friend & worst enemy.
@TKZprod
@TKZprod 11 ай бұрын
Interesting vid as always! I would love if the images were more related to the discourse, for instance when you talk about the demon sword, seeing the scene with Peppermint Buttler creating the sword and summoning Abadir, etc. Keep it up :-)
@MathewSan_
@MathewSan_ 11 ай бұрын
As always you did a great video🔝👍
@kingocto
@kingocto 7 ай бұрын
I do have a theory that the lich actually started out in the form of sweet pea, and then got corrupted by studying golb which ate away at him. Decaying his flesh to the bone as he got older. When sweet pea gained back his flesh, it was like a reset. That's my thoughts.
@takenname8053
@takenname8053 11 ай бұрын
SUPER NICE, Sweet P is such a good character!
@RoseMultiverse
@RoseMultiverse 8 ай бұрын
I hope we see more of him soon!
@random_comment_guy4607
@random_comment_guy4607 11 ай бұрын
So Future sweet pee has lichs powers at 100% Hunson’s night sword and likely combat skill from Finn training him yeah future sweet pee is definetly top 10 strongest adventure time characters with only creature lik golb(maybe soul suckers and death he is technically alive right?) being the only one that can beat him
@TrueLocalEnthusiast
@TrueLocalEnthusiast 11 ай бұрын
Technically with the night sword he could remove ALL of Hunsons powers at will. He's definitely up there 😂
@random_comment_guy4607
@random_comment_guy4607 11 ай бұрын
I only say soul suckers because it could be a long distance attack type thing
@leaderofthenewbencrusades746
@leaderofthenewbencrusades746 11 ай бұрын
@@random_comment_guy4607 Thinking about it, he probably wouldn't be affected by anything that can affect or attack one's soul, since his core is effectively the Lich brought life, and the Lich was able to cause the end of the original Death.
@ybgkrazy
@ybgkrazy 11 ай бұрын
I can see this channel touching on what if stories for adventure time
@fallongarens6734
@fallongarens6734 7 ай бұрын
Sometimes I wonder if the Lich had lied. It seems to me that the Lich does not represent the end - but he represents scars. Trauma. The Lich was created by a mass cataclysm, a great dying that left a scar on the Earth. The epicenter of that scar consistently seems to be his birthplace. As such, Sweet Pea is what happens when that wound or trauma heals - an imprint remains, but is changed. It no longer festers. It no longer hurts. However, that doesn't mean one should go prodding at it...
@abdulbaten9537
@abdulbaten9537 11 ай бұрын
So is Sweet P the lich? The same way Finn is technically shoko and every incarnation before him. Just a different individual but essentially the same entity I've also always wondered if Sweet P is supposed to be the reincarnation of Billy, I mean think about it. Giant warrior man with a glorious beard that has lived through centuries of battle. Though thats just headcannon since afaik you can't be the reincarnation of 2 separate beings. But that does make me ask, is every character in Adventure Time someone that reincarnates or is it based on stuff like cosmic importance (elementals, primordials, catalyst comets etc) ??
@kamel9715
@kamel9715 8 ай бұрын
Imagine being some super villain defeating a literal giant warrior hero only to realize that the whole fight was just an appetizer for a fight with the embodiment of death.
@cobaltprime9467
@cobaltprime9467 11 ай бұрын
The Lich is a dead being. He’s never been “alive.” When coming into contact with that goop, idk what it is, it gave him flesh. He became a living being. Sweet P works as a prison for the Lich. A being of life that counteracts and dominates his evil soul. 2 souls in 1 undying body. I do think Sweet P is immortal. He can age but can’t die unless he’s killed.
@martinxy1291
@martinxy1291 7 ай бұрын
I imagen a scene similar to that of Finn seeing Billy being possessed by the lich happening to Shermy. The Hero he was inspired by, possibly his mentor, who himself was inspired by his past life, is succumbing to his malevolent side and what's left of his good side begs you to defeat him, Shermy gonna be through some bs. It'd be even more fucked up that its in that battle where he loses his arm, as it's a common trope at this point for him in every life
@loganroush557
@loganroush557 7 ай бұрын
"You can't get rid of the Lich" GOLBetty - "Hold my beer"
@downtownraw2676
@downtownraw2676 11 ай бұрын
You forgot to mention that he looks like Pendelton Ward with his beard when he’s an adult 😊
@Allen-R
@Allen-R 7 ай бұрын
For some reason I didn't realize the comet was the Lich until now when I just noticed the horn-like fire-tail-things. 2:09 wait, he did that? lmao I thought that was just somthing Flame King did to his daughter.
@veronstross2913
@veronstross2913 7 ай бұрын
I figured that when sweet pea dies his personality would merge with the lich. Could be wrong. However I feel like that’s likely.
@mighty4024
@mighty4024 7 ай бұрын
Sweet pea has the powers of the litch, the skeleton of Billy, and he was made from the blood of a citadel guardian... yeah this boy is gonna be beefy and very very destructive if the lich ever takes over him... That makes me wonder though what type of blood does sweep he have does he have the blood of any normal Ooo person or does he have blood of citadel guardian ?
@sidetracker3496
@sidetracker3496 7 ай бұрын
It also might just be the fact that if Sweet P dies and considering the fact that him and the Lich are intrinsicly tied to eachother it might just be that their death creates a new Catalyst Comet.
@dennis2667
@dennis2667 11 ай бұрын
Thank you love the videos
@blindmanzero3766
@blindmanzero3766 7 ай бұрын
He’s a paradox to be the opposite of the lich keeping it sealed away
@jakebailey5834
@jakebailey5834 11 ай бұрын
I Love that you used The Darkside Ending of Star Wars The Force Unleashed for your Intro!😃😃😃😃
@otakuian3975
@otakuian3975 11 ай бұрын
Just when im feeling down, great ❤
@TrueLocalEnthusiast
@TrueLocalEnthusiast 11 ай бұрын
Hope this cheers you up a bit, hope your day gets better 👍
@otakuian3975
@otakuian3975 11 ай бұрын
It did cheer me up a bit its a great vid❤❤
@Lunko.
@Lunko. 7 ай бұрын
he def gave him the sword for hudson, they said hudson and the lich are basically rivals since they have similar goals. hudson wouldve prolly tried to kill sweet p
@Cartoriscoming
@Cartoriscoming 7 ай бұрын
DUDE IMAGINE AN ADVENTURE TIME UNIVERSE WHERE SWEET P BECAME THE LICH THATD GO SO INCREDIBLY INSANE
@woah-dude
@woah-dude 11 ай бұрын
Bro keep it up, your content and your voice are very enjoyable ~ greetings from a human person who is not a cat
@TrueLocalEnthusiast
@TrueLocalEnthusiast 4 ай бұрын
I have a feeling...you're a cat...
@woah-dude
@woah-dude 4 ай бұрын
@@TrueLocalEnthusiast don't we all enjoy some human humor from time to time
@spookyghost6713
@spookyghost6713 11 ай бұрын
Sweet Pea is absolutely more interesting than he is given credit for! Thank you!!!
@toongod6388
@toongod6388 11 ай бұрын
Love your vids
@TrueLocalEnthusiast
@TrueLocalEnthusiast 11 ай бұрын
Thanks man 😊
@demetricedwards712
@demetricedwards712 10 ай бұрын
The Koch whispering to sweet p was hilarious
@Banana_Banshee
@Banana_Banshee 7 ай бұрын
I lii oh fr the litch hands little scream when he gets tackled
@JMPT
@JMPT 11 ай бұрын
Ultra Nice 💛
@danlemongton7534
@danlemongton7534 7 ай бұрын
"You cannot get rid of the Lich." really didn't expect that to age as poorly as it did.
@Tahanok2
@Tahanok2 6 ай бұрын
Did you forget the part where the Lich is in every reality, and the one Golbetty saw came from a universe devoid of life?
@elifernandez331
@elifernandez331 7 ай бұрын
A spin off with Finn mentoring sweet pea as an old man would be amazing
@coderbritton0477
@coderbritton0477 7 ай бұрын
and i quote "evil evil evil evil evil evil" litch
@therenegade4482
@therenegade4482 7 ай бұрын
Honestly something cool to see is a thousand years later the lich does return but not as Sweet P instead sweet P takes the role of billy possibly being helped by beth and shermy or training them just as finn done to sweet P possibly
@cheezbiscuit4140
@cheezbiscuit4140 7 ай бұрын
I want the goddamn spinoff series where sweet p is the billy to finn and jakes reincarnations
@finnleijh6321
@finnleijh6321 9 ай бұрын
im gonna be honest ,the lich is one of my favorite characters in adventure time
@MelodyYoung
@MelodyYoung 6 ай бұрын
I think if we ever got a Shermy and Beth series they would probably have a plotline about the Lich returning. I couldn't imagine them not doing that honestly.
@edgargaebolg9307
@edgargaebolg9307 5 ай бұрын
A future Catalyst Comet could be a chance for the Lich to reappear, kinda like what happened with Gunter/Orgalorg
@MelodyYoung
@MelodyYoung 5 ай бұрын
It would be on the right timeline. SweetPea could also be like the Billy of that time and something happens to him which causes the lich to be released back into the world. @@edgargaebolg9307
@magickinesis
@magickinesis 11 ай бұрын
Welcome back
@Seitsuke1
@Seitsuke1 10 ай бұрын
The lich became what he hated the most.. a hero.
@noir9094
@noir9094 11 ай бұрын
It would actually make sense for sweet pea to be a primordial, maybe the litch has grown up as a primordial himself (would make sense if he has memories of a primordials), so maybe he was fully grown (and clearly being a corpse) his immortality was fueled by eternal death, so when the life goop came into contact with him it erased eternal death (or nullified it) making sweet pea into a whole new being that grows up and gets old, however of course with the lich still active/dormant inside as a soul.
@craz2580
@craz2580 11 ай бұрын
I personally think that sweet p is really one of the primordials, and considering your theory of the lich being one of them i think he may had taken over the body of one during the war at the beginning of time
@ThefifthBishopofGord
@ThefifthBishopofGord 11 ай бұрын
The just makes me wonder if the 4th dimensional sword that was basically a black hole would be able to suck in the Lich. This made me think of this because of you saying that the Lich is unable to be destroyed.
@thatonechannel8880
@thatonechannel8880 11 ай бұрын
Almost skimmed over bc the new pfp. Glad I can read lol
@Atlan73
@Atlan73 11 ай бұрын
I believe as stated by another person in the comment section that Sweet P is literally the Fusion of Lich original Vessel and Billy. Now i know it was never stated or stuff like that but i believe the Lich to be something alike Primordials cuz he is the literal COMET who simply found a vessel, Wich make me think that if this is true and Sweet P simply inherited Lich power's due to being pretty much the Lich himself in some sort he could actually have become Something SIMILAR extremely SIMILAR to a Primordial because of being the Lich + Being the fusion of 2 extremely powerfull vessel (i believe that the Lich first vessel was pretty strong due to be able to inherit the Lich) so maybe Sweet P the more he age the longer he live's, basically my headcanon/theory is that Sweet P the more he age the slower the aging will be making him at some time basically Immortal, he will likely live millions or even billions of years unless he get killed by something or someone wich is incredibly unlikely, wich means the Lich would probably never have the chance to get Sweet P body. Honestly if you read all of this nonsensical headcanon of mine i wish you a good night or day, Also i wish they actually planned on making a Sweet P Spin-off to see his adventure's instead of a spinoff about character's i sure like but i'm not instrested in the slightest.
@michaelsarmiento3362
@michaelsarmiento3362 11 ай бұрын
The Fiona and Cake spin-off.
@Atlan73
@Atlan73 11 ай бұрын
@@michaelsarmiento3362 Yeah, as i said i really like the characters Fiona and Cake also Marshal Lee and other genderbend but i don't care much about any of them.
@barsozuguler4300
@barsozuguler4300 11 ай бұрын
Can we also refer that he originally had one horn though. End of elemental episode there was a scene that sweetpeas second horn got repaired. It might be symbolic as well if we assume that magic somehow matured or repaired his mind enough to either suppress lichs effect or banish it. These questions still answered in distland lands too unfortunately. Why cartoons usually dont get enough fan service to answer all questions though. It boogles my mind. Steven universe future also suffers from that they look forward so much that they overlook general aspects of lore that fans speculating for literal years maybe even half decade
@shelbybayer200
@shelbybayer200 7 ай бұрын
4 months later The Lich is Defeated by Golbetty who turned him into one of the Geometric shapes that float around Golb
@enderziad8411
@enderziad8411 7 ай бұрын
Tetris
@jasdanvm3845
@jasdanvm3845 7 ай бұрын
I am pretty certain that Sweet Pea is the rebirthed form of Billy's body, so he has Billy's DNA.
@whitefox3189
@whitefox3189 7 ай бұрын
Sweet P is fundamentally the Lich reborn. Finn has been reborn many times, each incarnation being the same person, but also different. Shoko being a bandit, Finn a hero.
@christopheredwards8219
@christopheredwards8219 7 ай бұрын
I see the Lich less as the embodiment of evil, and more as the embodiment of death. He's not a villain, he is the inevitable march of time itself as the universe succumbs to entropy. The forces of good may conquer evil, but they can only do their best to stave off death. Heroes may be strong, but time is beyond strength.
@cinnamontoast5769
@cinnamontoast5769 11 ай бұрын
Missed this W content
@electrobob992
@electrobob992 7 ай бұрын
Though another thing I am curious about... That most seem to not think about.. Ice Thing aka Gunther. Thanks to the lich's speech we KNOW he has existed longer than the universe. Ergo he is immortal even WITHOUT the crown. Now here's another reminder... Gunther did have a CHILD. *That magical Kitten* Which when you think about out it... Could have interesting implications if the same immortality transferred to it. Thus in the future of Ooo, while the Ice Thing is roaming around, the kitten is out there. Doing good, or evil. No idea. Someone's pet, or perhaps the REAL prisoner we saw in the Beth and Shermy opening and not PB.
@gabeblackmon2722
@gabeblackmon2722 7 ай бұрын
It would be cool to see a show about sweet pea and his struggle suppressing the litch
@mr.berserk8339
@mr.berserk8339 7 ай бұрын
It is possible that if sweet pie died the night sword would restrain the lich just like Hudson blocking his magic. Another possibility for fin giving him the night sword In the first place
@bradonbyrd8061
@bradonbyrd8061 9 ай бұрын
Epic love and friendship
@therealmrboo9962
@therealmrboo9962 11 ай бұрын
Let’s goooo new vid
@TrueLocalEnthusiast
@TrueLocalEnthusiast 11 ай бұрын
About time!
@indigofenix00
@indigofenix00 11 ай бұрын
If the Lich's skeletal body was his true, essential form, it shouldn't have been possible to turn him into Sweet Pea by "healing" him. This tells us that the Lich's essence took over a living body, possibly in the same way that Farmworld Lich took over Jake's body, and that's what Sweet Pea is. But what's most interesting is that the giant size and horns were not reverted by the Lumps. This suggests that either the size and horns were already present before the Lich took over, or that some aspects of the mutation are "non-elemental" in nature. Or maybe the Lich is just so stubborn that even LSP's essence can't make him go away.
@blissfuldirtbag2279
@blissfuldirtbag2279 7 ай бұрын
I wanna see the adventure comic of Sweet Pea dying and someone trying to prepare for the return of the lich
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