They tried to copyright this. It's canon.

Lorax was so anti trees he gave his aproval to multiple enviromentally harming products in the Lorax marketing campaing

The Theorizer could convince me of anything at this point.

Lorax: I am the Lorax! i hate speaking for these trees, Please chop them down before I indulge in stress eating cheese

If The Lorax is anti-Trees does this open the possibility to Willy Wonka secretly hating chocolate and candy?

The Theorizer is what MatPat would’ve become if he continued to do FNAF theories and truly went insane Thing is, The Theorizer makes it make sense and true, which is horrifying

I'm starting to think yall missed the message of "fuck around and find out" that the lorax was actually trying to give. He's not the villain, just out of options

Ted’s mom calling herself Mrs Wiggins despite having no husband would seem to imply she’s a widow. It’s possible that she divorced O’Hare, remarried and then her second husband died, all while Ted was very young. If Bernice suspects O’Hare had her second husband killed, then her fear of him makes a lot of sense. It would also make sense why she doesn’t seem to have any interest in finding a partner during the film. Husband #2 may have spoken out against O’Hare, or simply made him jealous, but either way he’s gone and no one is eager to bring him up.

So Ted's father in a way is a tree just like we joked in an earlier community post

I think the most hilarious part of this all to me is that the writers might have really added some nasty divorce subtext without much thought, but the insane way you connect everything to craft a narrative that explodes in the wildest ways. Thank goodness you dedicate this power to make fictional entertainment based on fiction already. I dread to think what harm you could cause with real conspiracies XD

If the Lorax is a 385000000 year old being that regulates a universe, he may be a different breed of Katie. All Dr. Seuss creatures could be different species of Katie.

To add to your theory, it now makes sense why the Once-Ler can live in his big house outside of town while still surviving, O’Hare’s been secretly supplying him air, it also explained why The Once-Ler didn’t just immediately plant the seed, because he had been working with O’Hare, he also probably wasn’t allowed back in town and he couldn’t have planted the seed where he lives, it also makes the Oncer-Ler look less stupid because no matter what, the trees would’ve died, The Lorax was controlling him the whole time, it also explained how no one died due to lack of air, if everyone was dead there’d be no lesson to teach, The Lorax made sure to keep them all alive It’s incredible how this theory explains basically every plot hole in the movie

I feel like I’m watching something the government doesn’t want me to whenever I watch these videos

The Lorax let it happen. The Lorax let it grow. The song isn't talking about the tree, it's talking about the lesson that needed to be learned. Let the lesson grow.

Universal copyrighted the original video, this making EVERYTHING in this video CANON

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1:42 this little furry critter looks too clean for a nature spirit, the fur doesn’t shag or bear moss, there are no antlers or horns resembling branches or photosynthesizing stems, there are no sharp claws, scent gland holes, or any other grotesque feature, no uncomfortably familiar looking humanoid face, no nothing to make him embody the everything that is life! Too clean too trimmed like an oak at the park or a palm by the roadside in a big dull city! He shoulda been a muntjac fellow!

Theorizer is like the real life version of “The Question” from DC.

I seriously cannot believe that all these years later you are still uncovering mind-boggling reality-shifting hidden truths behind the freaking animated Lorax movie from 2012

Quote on the back of the Lorax "This film is about Heritage, Nature, and Lessons to Humanity. Its about growing Prosperity for the next generation and undoing the sins of ones ancestors." The Theorizer

Perhaps the reason why O'hair didn't kill Ted when he was brought to him was because Ted is his kid

He did a poll on this a month ago on what is the best, but he chose all of them. What a good man.

The fact that this video was copyright striked by the company, most likely attempting to _silence_ him, says much more about its canonicity 👀

Can’t believe you would change the thumbnail from Daddy O’Hare to the Lorax.

BABE WAKE UP NEW THEORIZER VIDEO

“Honey wake up, The Theorizer posted a new video!”

Hope you are safe far from the CIA, we thank you for exposing the truth.

Honestly, the distortion to circumvent the copyright kinda fits your vibe!

You always make feel me like psychopath because your videos are that good and mind blowing

You have a voice that makes me afraid of the stair monster again I am not complaining

A friendgroup of mine has this really elaborate injoke comparing The Lorax to that of the story of the garden of eden, was pleasantly surprised to see this theory really nicely complement that. EDIT: OKAY, seeing other people share this exact sentiment was eye-opening and it made me want to directly state what brought about biblical lorax becoming an injoke, that being a specific part in Biggering, where the Lorax states that the Onceler’s real problem isn’t greed, but *pride*. “But you know, you really can't blame greed No, that's stupid You see, it's gotta worm inside Oh yeah, that's right It's one that always needs to feed and it is never satisfied You get it? But the more you try to find it The more it likes to hide Now listen, that is a nasty, little worm And I like to call it pride” the personification of pride as a small, legless, crawling animal set off a lightbulb and the next thing we knew we were jokingly talking about how this was an elaborate metaphor for the snake in the garden of eden. This is an incredibly loose point made mostly in jest but the thought of this stupid injoke actually being mentioned in a theorizer video was enough of a motivator for me to type this all up.

I love these kinds of theories where it all turns out to be a messed up family story, with the character all being connected in some way. And it makes too much sense, too

Has anyone else came to the terrifying realisation that the trees in The Lorax are the clovers in Horton Hears a Who?(Katie part 4)

I can't help but feel you're 5’6 with the way you called Ohare a short king

My mom’s most frequently asked question about Nightmare Before Christmas always was ‘why didn’t Santa use that power before Oogey Boogey nearly killed him?’ What does that have to do with this theory? Well the first words I thought of when she asked that was ‘THAT’S NOT HOW IT WORKS!’ Just like the Lorax says about his own powers. I wonder if Santa was trying to teach that same lesson to Halloween town by LETTING IT ALL HAPPEN?

MatPats adopted son finally uploaded.

Maybe O'Hare was influenced by the Lorax in some way, like, maybe the Lorax disguised himself as a human or hell even presented himself as a magical creature, except omitting the parts where he fights for nature and all that, and offered O'Hare the seeds so he could produce his air, that way he influenced everything from behind the scenes.

I am ALWAYS willing to drop everything when a new theorizer vid is up.

THIS is what I've been waiting for! Ever since I saw the community post teasing this I've been eagerly waiting for it.

This is actually apart of the Shadow of the Erdtree expansion

See I really was wondering the whole movie why the onceler never just planted the seed, I mean I know it's supposed to be that the soil was ruined, but that can't be true do to the onceler still being able to be alive and BREATHING! The whole movie was full of these hidden details just WAITING for someone like you (The Theorizer) to retell this story in the true, yet dark way. It's always a good day when you upload!

I want someone to make a princess mononoke crossover just to make the deer spirit judge the Lorax & rid of him. Something or someone to be “nature finding a way” incarnate.

While i agree with the family connections, the fact O'hare got a seed from the lorax though im not so sure. In an extended version of the theme song at the top of the movie, where the town is praising how perfect their town is, O'hare himself says a very particular line: "I sell them something they can get for free" Now, the reason this line was left in the extended version of the song but not the one in the movie is anyones guess. It could be an old plotline they scrapped. However, it DOES support the idea that life isnt as far gone as its said to be. Or he could be referring to tge fact the onceler still has a seed that he only knows about because he maybe got one of 2 seeds from the Onceler

I don’t think that Mr. O’Hare is a byproduct of The Lorax, i think he might be the Lorax. Hear me out, shortly after the Lorax leaves, we see a young Mr. O’Hare. Shortly After Mr. O’Hare is thrown out of thneedsville, the Lorax return. He might be the Lorax in a different form. This would make the Lorax Ted’s dad.

7:35 in spanish mr o’hare says to ted’s mom to go back to the kitchen so it is even more personal

If the theoriser made a video saying i was a russian sleeper agent activated by the word bananajam i would believe him

I always assumed o'hair just got the air elsewhere. All the animals went away so they probably went somewhere. Also, the more convincing evidence, the onceler found the trufula trees through traveling. That means that there's other places without trufula trees, and that means other ways of getting oxygen. The onceler also had an axe before he knew about trufula trees, so theres other types of trees that would still exist.

Have you ever watched the adult cartoon "Happy Tree Friends?" I know it’s a weird thing to bring up considering it’s unrelated to the topic of this video, but I feel the show has some good theory potential. I don’t want to spoil anything in the series, but just as an example the show has a lot of strange inconsistencies that I see as too purposeful to be just continuity mistakes. Also, the series is based around seemingly cute and cuddly characters that have demented sides to their personality, which is a trend I’ve noticed with a lot of your theory topics. (i.e. Mort, Katie, Gary the Snail, Scrat, etc.)

NO WAY THE GUY WHO SPEAKS FOR THE TREES DESTROYS THE TREES

0:12 Well it’s an illuminations production of course he wanted it all to die of course he’s selling out for Honda, cuz he ain’t the Lorax he’s a poser ass!

the theorizers pfp makes me think they are like a member of anonymous and if I don't believe them they gonna send me a virus that makes my computer explode. Youve convinced me before the vid started

I just realized something. When Ted goes to plant the seed, we see the whole town is concrete. There’s no exposed soil to prevent trees from growing. That’s O’Hares doing. So if someone dies, where are they buried? Outside of town? O’Hare doesn’t let anyone go outside of town and no one goes there anyways. So where do the bodies go? Also how is the onceler still alive after all this time without any fresh air? There’s no trees or plants alive near his house

You know the movie could avoid avoided if they just you know planted more trees after they chopped them down. That's how the logging industry works.They don't go just chopping down trees and then leaving For the next forest they regrow trees

Alright, here goes: So this whole thing could be seen as a metaphor for the Bible. The most obvious comparison would be Ted being Jesus, saving the town from a hellish, artificial world and starting to plant trees. This would also make the Lorax God. He descends from the sky, protects the animals, is played by Danny Devito, and, if your theory is correct, destroyed the trees and wilderness, perhaps similar to the flooding of Earth in Genesis. These two comparisons also fit together quite nicely, as if the Lorax is O’Hare, or created O’Hare, and O’Hare is Ted’s father, that would make the metaphorical God the father of the metaphorical Jesus, just like the Bible. That leaves a couple of options for the Once-ler, the best fitting being Adam and Granny Norma being Eve. This works best if you consider that Granny Norma was the Thneed woman, the first one who truly used the Thneed, the object which later led to the destruction of all the trees, perhaps how like Eve was the first to take a bite out of the forbidden fruit, which led to her and Adam being expelled from the Garden of Eden. That would therefore make the Once-ler’s father: the Lorax, just as God created Adam. Edit: I think I changed my mind about The Lorax being The Onceler’s father. The main reason for this is, why? What point would the Lorax have to have a son who was destined to destroy the trees? You could argue that the Lorax did so in order to display the dangers of destroying the trees for everyone else. But that would rely on the assumption that there are others who would want to destroy all the trees. It also involves an unhealthy dose of cyclical reasoning. The Lorax has a son to destroy trees…so he can make sure no one destroys the trees. If Mr. Riser can make it work, awesome, but I’m calling the last part of my theory wrong. (I still believe everything else I talked about though.)

finally, how many times have you smashed your fist against the wall when making this video?

Lorax? more like... EVILORAX!!!!

Bro his voice sound much deeper. Unfortunately a slight plot hole in all this. The reason Ohare doesn't want the trees is because trees make fresh air for free. His whole business is selling purified air, even advertised as such. Mechanical air purifiers are a thing and Ohare seems to be a nerdy tech guy so he more likely invented air purifiers.

New video about the lorax, awesome!!!

Three series/movies I'd love to see from you: 1. Spy Kids 2. Bolt 3. Fifth Element

His voice is so serous in a good way and this theory make so much sense am not joking!

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I think the Lorax is probably Cy the O’Hare Delivery Guy. The flashbacks seem to imply that O’Hare is just another Onceler style capitalist who started out innocent but was corrupted by money and power. Audrey is too young, for her to be the Lorax, he would have had to decided to become a lost child and hope to be adopted, or possibly dispose of an actual child and replace her, which seems harsh considering that he was opposed to drowning the Onceler. Cy has no backstory and would have been an adult when the town was incorporated. He is the first townsperson to say that the trees are worth a chance at the climax of the movie, actually calls O’Hare a “greedy dirtbag” and he has the exact same mustache as the Lorax. As a delivery man he can enter every house in town and monitor the people. He could have been the one to tell Audrey about the trees and he could have “found” a seed for O’Hare back in the day and given it away, pretending he didn’t understand its worth. I suppose he could also be Audrey’s father who raised her with an understanding of nature, but I can’t prove that, only suspect it from her Lorax colored hair and knowledge that trees produce oxygen. Audrey being effectively half fay would also explain why the tree she helped plant grew so well and produced so many more trees. She literally has nature magic. Another point in favor of the Lorax visiting everyone and subtly promoting trees to them is that literally everyone in town except O’Hare is so excited about gardening that they sing about it, including Marie who is only 3 but would really like to see a tree. Why? Most people irl are indifferent to adding a new thing to their town, and 3 year olds are usually uninterested in things that will not benefit them in the next 10 minutes. I suppose Marie could be Audrey’s sister since she does stand with Audrey and Cy during O’Hare’s part in “Let it Grow” and has no definitive parents. Also despite her young age she is on key and rhymes her verse perfectly. Her hair is more strawberry blonde than orange but it could darken with age and she has blue eyes and an upturned nose like the Lorax. None of that proves she isn’t fully human, but the only other child who has a solo in this movie is Westley who has the shorter non rhyming line “I just went swimming and now I glow.” Considering that he can actually swim without floaties, he is probably much older than 3, yet has a much simpler part. Suspicious.

Every few months i come back to this channel and im never dissapointed. Keep bringing the thruth you crazy enlightened individual

I dont know but the editing on this video about a conspiracy on the lorax kept me on the verge of bursting out laughing

IVE BEEN SO ADDICTED TO THE LORAX FOR SO LONG IM SO READY FOR THIS

Been waiting

Game theory went decently crazy so this man could go BATSHIT FECKING INSANE

yessssssssssss you always crack open these theory's please keep it up man!

@12:48-13:13 FACTS!!! Consequences are the best/only teacher. Gotta hit rock bottom. I used to be an "activist". Then I realized some things about ppl & myself. Now I just focus on my own integrity & whats in my direct control, & "let" ppl learn the hard way. 🤷🏾

I would believe this if The Lorax wasn't a garbage movie made by a soulless corporation for the sake of profit and nothing else. The idea that they would put any thought whatsoever into the plot is hilarious.

omg i havent watched this channel in YEARS but im so glad to see youre still going strong

This video (and by extension, the entire channel) are a testament to the importance of paying attention to the small details when writing/making a story. Intentional or not, these small details can completely recontextualize everything, or more importantly, completely dismantle the story you thought you were trying to tell.

Whhhaaaat? Never heard of this. Thank you!

AWESOME

I really wanted to say that this channel is super unique. With hundreds of Theory channels exist, then you have the theory channel of all theory channels, whom i wont name. But, despite all that, you do a great job on standing out! While others mosly recap on theories already known, or the aforementioned theory channel of theory channels. But your sarcasm and wackiness is really entertaining. And i really appreciate how straight you play it, with just the right amount of self awareness. And the quickness to the point as it just descends into madness is just, great.

Get this man a Netflix show

Looks like you defeated Universal ⚔️ Also not to be annoying but I got the first view baby

yay! here it is!!!

Hlariously enough, earlier this week in class we watched the lorax and I had the exact same thought of "what if granny norma was the thneed girl?", so seeing somebody actually look into this is seriously making this an enjoyable episode.

I always figured O'Hare gets the air from somewhere far off. After all the animal are going somewhere in the flashback so its not like all the trees are gone, only the ones in that area are. So its less that the air is being "created" and more like its being imported

It makes me feel that they are separate entities part of a cycle. Kind of kile rava and vaatu from legend of korra

this more nostalgic then Nostalgia critic

You know it’s a good day when the theorized uploads

14:22 You could say it Thneeded to happen

shoulda put the vine thud sound at the word disco reveal

At first I was leaning into mail man as his father is such a great joke, I died at this part. 4:40

Amazing production quality, pacing, and vibes. Please keep this up!

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Is this the new theory legend after matpat retired

I’ve been binge watching old theories.i literally watched a different Lorax one before this 😂😂😂 great timing

Been waiting for this one:)

YESSSSS

HOLY CRAP REALLY

I find it funny that this guy has probably put more thought into this movie then everyone who worked on it

The Theorizer, you scare me… AND I LOVE IT!!

Evil Lorax!

Yes!

Man, the more I looked back on your older videos, the more I just noticed how different your voice is sounding! I'm not complaining or anything, I just found it shocking!

Happy Theorizer Day!!!!🗣🗣🗣

How bad can it be?