Unveiling Danny's Audiophile Rig: Off The Grid and Beyond...

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@jaredgibbs2397
@jaredgibbs2397 2 ай бұрын
I love my Dodd Audio amp. I miss Gary, he was an amazing guy. RIP
@roadhorse21
@roadhorse21 2 ай бұрын
Danny could you tell us more about Mr Dodd (Dodd Audio), and the history you shared. Have a good day thanks.
@jharloe
@jharloe 2 ай бұрын
I heard Danny’s rig. It’s the best I have heard. He is on the right path and it’s great of him to share
@BootJamesOut
@BootJamesOut 2 ай бұрын
Hello folks: Some send speakers to Danny Now will Danny do the same with his gear! Ever do his own Canadian audio show tour. If he did I doubt that he'll be able to keep up with supply and demand. That's sad as cost will be just how many more times the price. 40 points new company to promote 60 points on top. Ride Easy
@thinkIndependent2024
@thinkIndependent2024 2 ай бұрын
Danny Having multiple years in electronics I have 3 rigs in my house DACs, Tube PreAmps, Streamers, Network Switching All modified to run 12 Volt and 5 Volts. Yes everything you described about the sound is spot on. I'm Dallas one day I will make it by to see you . I consider You a legend in this Hobby I'm positive that my work has prefected running a system in this manner.
@00penguin
@00penguin 2 ай бұрын
Like you said a lot of people have been waiting on this one for a while. Thank you.
@wilbertiii
@wilbertiii 2 ай бұрын
Was just there on Monday and was listening to Danny's rig......off the charts!! Another level...wow!
@veroman007
@veroman007 2 ай бұрын
One of your most unusual videos to date. Very interesting.
@losendos8963
@losendos8963 2 ай бұрын
Every time I listen to Danny explain these things, I'm suddenly reminded how dumb I am.....
@bobjary9382
@bobjary9382 28 күн бұрын
Thanks so much for going through this , I find it fascinating as I live 12v/solar/off grid . It really never occured to me I could have a top class system at home !
@RobertCookcx
@RobertCookcx 2 ай бұрын
This is the point where I realized - I will never be "that much" of an audiophile.
@cruise2023
@cruise2023 2 ай бұрын
Yes over the top, never ending looking for perfection, a rabbit hole that achieves nothing. I now after many yrs listen to music and not the gear.
@v12alpine
@v12alpine 2 ай бұрын
@@cruise2023 rabbit hole for some I guess. A friend is super into high end stuff, cables speakers, ect... but I'd hardly consider him a real audiophile after hearing the noise his system makes with the volume down. More like an extreme hi-fi type setup.
@DodgyBrothersEngineering
@DodgyBrothersEngineering 2 ай бұрын
@@v12alpine you have to take care of the big problems before you take care of the small ones.
@v12alpine
@v12alpine 2 ай бұрын
@@DodgyBrothersEngineering Right? It seems he's done it backwards.
@stephenyoud6125
@stephenyoud6125 2 ай бұрын
Great to see finally and to understand the history. Would love to hear that rig and understand what its all about.
@seanjoell
@seanjoell 2 ай бұрын
Awesome system. Would love to hear it one day.
@alexw890
@alexw890 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing Danny!
@rothgartheviking858
@rothgartheviking858 2 ай бұрын
Loved this video. Would like to learn more about your History and Dodd Audio. Has anyone or will anyone Carry on with Gary's designs?
@micheandmikey
@micheandmikey 2 ай бұрын
Wow, now that sounds awesome!!! Great video Danny!
@willbrink
@willbrink 23 күн бұрын
I'd be interested in the actual measured performance of such a system.
@brandonpatten5863
@brandonpatten5863 2 ай бұрын
Cool setup! Jeff Rowland had been doing this for decades in Colorado springs and was able to sneak a listen back in the early 2000's. Thanks for sharing.
@slapstra1970
@slapstra1970 2 ай бұрын
Great episode. More pls!
@phillipmorris9847
@phillipmorris9847 2 ай бұрын
Awsome stuff thanks for sharing
@Yooyangs
@Yooyangs 2 ай бұрын
Very cool rig Danny! 👍
@kdomster9141
@kdomster9141 2 ай бұрын
Danny all of this explains how all the little adjustments and crossover tweeks make a clear and immediate difference! Your system is very high resolution and resolving a ton of detail and is the reason all adjustments and tweeks are magnified in comparison to plain off the shelf electronics... where lot of resolution is just simply not there to begin with .
@johnsonadekunle7675
@johnsonadekunle7675 2 ай бұрын
Nice meeting you at the Dallas Southwest Audiofest. I'm the OKC guy that sat in front of you at the YG Acoustics room while they were playing music from Dire Straits.
@contemporaryartist6542
@contemporaryartist6542 2 ай бұрын
Excellent. I run my dac on a battery and rest of system through a power regenerator. Thank you
@badd99
@badd99 2 ай бұрын
1- use large ultracapitors 3400F and Ian Canada ucpure for power. The best power supply in the world. Lowest esr possible. Your bigger battery sounds better due to lower esr. Ultracapitors are the best in the world and charge 20x faster than a battery. 2- use audiolinux on a pc running on battery paralleled to ultracaps. Far better than stock Mac mini. FAR.
@phantomplastics6582
@phantomplastics6582 2 ай бұрын
I also went off the grid. Just takes an LiFePO4 battery, a Victron charger, Giandel pure sine wave inverter and then a filter to remove any residuals in the power (Puritan 156). You can make your own "Stromtank" for a few hundred $.
@gilesdavis6345
@gilesdavis6345 2 ай бұрын
I use an iPad with a chord Hugo. Both give around 8hrs of internal battery when I’m up for some super critical listening. Results are pretty darn good for not too much money.
@thomasworrell6853
@thomasworrell6853 2 ай бұрын
That is cool. The battery charger for Corvette also keeps your sound,sounding, sound.
@mikehartigan2703
@mikehartigan2703 2 ай бұрын
Impressive stuff as usual!... Most of the tube amps I build are for guitar. They are definitely not "critical listening" devices. However, I have been experimenting with DC power supplies for a few years. My goal was to save money and weight by not using big power transformers. It isn't easy to get clean power from a boost converter circuit. Especially when it's boosting to tube plate voltages. Supplies like that can generate their own type of noise, not to mention heat.
@AllboroLCD
@AllboroLCD 2 ай бұрын
Yes yes yes, good sound does NOT have to equate to big $! This mantra is what needs to echo throughout the community. Lets help folks stop getting hosed!
@twentytabs
@twentytabs 2 ай бұрын
Your experience with the Mac Mini and running it off an external power source reminds me of Uptone Audio and their DC conversion kit for powering the Mini from a linear power supply. I use a Sonore ultraRendu streamer powered by an Uptone JS-2 LPS connected via i2s to a PS Audio Direcstream dac, and it gives my high-end vinyl setup a run for its money. Cheers and love your videos!
@condostereo
@condostereo 2 ай бұрын
I noticed significant gains with the way my system sounded when I traced the wiring in my apartment to learn which outlets were on each circuit. With 10ft power cords, the source and amp were plugged into outlets that were about 15 ft apart. The two outlets in between were removed, wires pigtailed and cover plates installed.
@condostereo
@condostereo 2 ай бұрын
I’m building up crossovers for the X-bravo kit and intend to use the same isolation technique with the components of the crossover. Crossover will be externally mounted. Components will sit along the speaker wires between the amp and the drivers.
@johnwilliamson467
@johnwilliamson467 2 ай бұрын
Agree about the southwest audiofest.
@kevinmcgrath3591
@kevinmcgrath3591 2 ай бұрын
For sure Danny's videos are completely BS free. great stuff man
@iamsometimes6712
@iamsometimes6712 2 ай бұрын
For sure ! A very trusted guy !
@jondonnelly4831
@jondonnelly4831 2 ай бұрын
One if the nicest sounding amps i have is a JL audio one from my car. I tried it inside with a car battery and it was lively and rythemic and effortless. It is a class D as well. Class D power amps could be a great match for battery due to the efficiency. Tube class a on preamp, D on the powee.
@JasonWW2000
@JasonWW2000 2 ай бұрын
Which model amp are you referring to? Is it one of their older slash models?
@v12alpine
@v12alpine 2 ай бұрын
One of the best class-D amps I listened to is tripath ("class-T"). Tube warmth with almost class-D efficiency.
@julieheard3797
@julieheard3797 2 ай бұрын
Try the little TPA 3110 ,
@julieheard3797
@julieheard3797 2 ай бұрын
Loads of options running Class D amps off battery, I've been doing it for years, plus plenty of Dac boards that run off 12v .
@jondonnelly4831
@jondonnelly4831 2 ай бұрын
@@JasonWW2000 XDM500/3 With the 2 x 75W running Focal Aria 906 + JL audio 10" w1 in custom sealed box enclosure. Installed in the car I used C6-650 components. I was surprised how good it sounded in the room. Stacking up real well to the Supernait 2. Ok not quite as musical as that but more lively and rythemic and amazing bass for what is not a big amp !
@markbroadheaf1593
@markbroadheaf1593 2 ай бұрын
Most Dacs with the Wolfson chips sound great.
@woldemortxyz7996
@woldemortxyz7996 2 ай бұрын
Please try supercapacitors from Maxwell, XS or EATON. They not only balance the voltage, filtering out high frequencies, but they can provide instant electrons, through a physical reaction and not a chemical reaction, like batteries. They do not have much reserve, but they are supposed to be used with batteries, extending the batteries' lives because the big peaks of amperage draw will drain the supercaps and the batteries will only serve to charge the supercaps and keep reserve for longer sessions.
@dannyrichie9743
@dannyrichie9743 2 ай бұрын
Our batter buffers work a little bit the same way.
@badd99
@badd99 2 ай бұрын
Ultracapitors Danny are far better than batteries.
@randycochones5965
@randycochones5965 2 ай бұрын
12V supercapacitors are used for current peaks in highend car audio.
@darrenschmitz2712
@darrenschmitz2712 2 ай бұрын
Good timing with this video, I have been looking at upgrading my equipment's power supplies lately including battery power. Can you be more specific on the "CC Charger" you use? Being able to keep the charger hooked up like you do greatly simplifies a battery powered system.
@alce0300
@alce0300 2 ай бұрын
"Cheaper than a power chord" Word
@bmtdoc
@bmtdoc 2 ай бұрын
I have somewhere in the closet a Vinnie Rossi modded Teac chip amp. I think the batteries have died. One of these days I hope to get it to a shop to see if it can be revived. It has lead batteries as well, though Li batteries were still in the future when this mod was done.
@TombstoneTube
@TombstoneTube 2 ай бұрын
Vinnie was a master of off grid approach.
@bloodcarver913
@bloodcarver913 2 ай бұрын
I have also taken my house off grid and running solar and a big battery bank which again supplies all my loads. The sound has never been better. Best investment as an audiophile ever.
@RobertCookcx
@RobertCookcx 2 ай бұрын
That just moves the source to the solar inverters though. He is running ing pure DC and uses this wizard electronics.gurus circuitry.
@JasonWW2000
@JasonWW2000 2 ай бұрын
​@@RobertCookcxNot necessarily, he could isolate a smaller battery just to run his audio system while the main battery is charging during the day.
@tango_gru
@tango_gru 24 күн бұрын
@@RobertCookcx Even if he is running off the AC generated by the solar grid. It will be much less polluted than the one coming off the states grid coz of less amount of load in the house.
@mcgjohn22
@mcgjohn22 2 ай бұрын
pretty interesting set up. AC line noise is a much bigger issue than many think. If a person looks at a scope you can all the harmonics (low and very high frequency) riding on top of and well above the 60 hrz main AC frequency. For years companies have been trying to filter it out to varying degrees of success. All this noise is one of the reasons aftermarket power cords can make such a big improvement contrary to what the naysayers chime in with. Likely not as quiet (low noise) as BAT power though. As the noise floor is lowered, resolution, detail and imaging greatly improve.
@SteelBlueVision
@SteelBlueVision 2 ай бұрын
True, but all of this noise gets filtered out during conversion to DC by any and I literally mean any properly designed modern device, something that has been shown again and again by actual measurements made at Audio Science Review.
@mcgjohn22
@mcgjohn22 2 ай бұрын
@@SteelBlueVision If all the noise got filtered out then BAT power should not sound any better...............
@ulrichgorlich6292
@ulrichgorlich6292 2 ай бұрын
Amazing!
@jamesmarkjackson1979
@jamesmarkjackson1979 2 ай бұрын
Really interesting. I've been been thinking about trying something similar on a much lower budget just powering a 15-20W class D amplifier and DAC running into some small speakers on a second office system. Or possibly my turntable and phono stage as they run on 12V and 18V DC respectively.
@pkats9093
@pkats9093 2 ай бұрын
Very very cool! Would love to hear it someday, preferably at my house. Lol
@gratmatassa5432
@gratmatassa5432 2 ай бұрын
mission electronics in the uk used a battery powered pre amp in their 776/777 pre/power combo in the late 70's early 80's
@mfr58
@mfr58 2 ай бұрын
The bit that would be useful to know is how Gary turned 24Vdc into HT for the tubes without creating switching noise.....
@5thlevelweb887
@5thlevelweb887 2 ай бұрын
Agree 100%
@dannyrichie9743
@dannyrichie9743 2 ай бұрын
He was a really sharp guy.
@Oggycrew
@Oggycrew 2 ай бұрын
Clearly it did if it took out the camera!
@danmarjenka6361
@danmarjenka6361 2 ай бұрын
@@Oggycrew I agree. It cannot be very quiet (RF-wise) if it messed up the camera from that far away.
@dannyrichie9743
@dannyrichie9743 2 ай бұрын
@@danmarjenka6361 These are dead quiet and don't produce any RF noise. I will check this out and see what was freaking out the camera.
@michaelzoppo534
@michaelzoppo534 2 ай бұрын
The camera seemed to be impacted by the inverter noise.
@mikedenallo6997
@mikedenallo6997 3 күн бұрын
Very interesting Danny- any plans to produce a similar setup for sale to the public?
@JR-ho5qm
@JR-ho5qm 2 ай бұрын
Funny on the Lithium batteries, I have had good luck using them on fishfinders. It seems to clean the picture up nicely. You just never know I guess, every thing is different
@JasonWW2000
@JasonWW2000 2 ай бұрын
Yes, this has me puzzled. Did he mean using the battery while it was being charged? Lithium has special charging cycles that are very different from a lead acid battery. I assumed he meant just a lithium battery by itself. So I don't understand how there could be much difference. He also didn't say what type of lithium. There are many different types, I wonder if they tried all of them?
@raidendigital1003
@raidendigital1003 2 ай бұрын
You guys gotta try taking your equipment outside. Even just using a Datyton DTA-1 running off of AA's it makes the sound so much better by removing acoustic problems. Also listening in an abandoned house would be fun. It was so scary the night in the abandoned house with my cheap equipment running the Home Deco speakers, risking thousands of dollars of equipment must be so much more thrilling.
@scottrux6201
@scottrux6201 2 ай бұрын
That was excellent
@MJ-ge6jz
@MJ-ge6jz 2 ай бұрын
Tube pre amps are the way to go. I run my monster solid state amps to drive my hungry speakers. It's a compromise, however, the music is so sweet. I just wish the tube life was as lengthy as solid state. Make sure you have several sets on stand by.
@ChicagoRob2
@ChicagoRob2 2 ай бұрын
100% agree. One of my best systems was a Sonic Frontiers tube pre, running a Bryston 4B ST.
@ninjareynolds
@ninjareynolds 2 ай бұрын
I'd actually like to know what Gary and you discovered regarding the lithium batteries and why they didn't sound as good. I have a Virtue Audio Sensation that I'm using 2x12v 7ah LiFePo4 batteries with for the power supply. I've never used SLA batteries with it though. Only issue I have is the cheap SMART charger I'm using squeals once the batteries are fully charged so I have to disconnect with a switch when I want to use the amp. Thanks for mention the charger brand you use. I'll have to look into them.
@kyleteal5888
@kyleteal5888 2 ай бұрын
So a harbor freight battery tender which is a trickle charger and a 12volt 25 amp hour battery on one of these chinese mini amps. That accepts 12volts dc should sound better than an 80's 50watt amplifier that runs A/C?
@julieheard3797
@julieheard3797 2 ай бұрын
Loads of options running Class D amps off battery, I've been doing it for years, plus plenty of Dac boards that run off 12v .
@sydbarrett1146
@sydbarrett1146 2 ай бұрын
What’s the output impedance of those tube amps? And does it drastically change your speaker response?
@westharpe2692
@westharpe2692 2 ай бұрын
Thanks, Danny. 2 questions...How can the lay-audiophile get off grid without your bespoke solutions? And, did you try inverting back to AC so that gear with IEC connectors could be used?
@danmarjenka6361
@danmarjenka6361 2 ай бұрын
Danny can probably shed some light on this.....I have thought about using a portable battery pack like the Bluetti or Jackery units sold on Amazon. I think the issue is that you are stepping up the voltage of the battery pack to 120v, then stepping that 120 down to 12 volts (or even 5 volts) inside the audio component. Too much conversion of voltage probably results in extra noise.
@electricroo
@electricroo 2 ай бұрын
Danny, two things. You mentioned that you at times use some chip amps. I have experimented with some low power chip amp boards and am impressed. Which chip amps are your favorites? Also interesting enough about the 12v Mac Mini. Now I refer to myself as "Sound for the regular guy." As I'm not high end. I came across an old 12v touch screen medical device. I installed Linux on it and connected a (low end) USB DAC to stream flac files. When I experimented running it off a battery, wow even with my low end chip amps and self made tube gear it was noticeable. I thought it was just my imagination, but maybe not after seeing this video!
@user-zq8pp3ul2c
@user-zq8pp3ul2c 2 ай бұрын
I've experimentee with chip Amps and class a transistor amps and they all sound terrible to me. I can only live on tube Amps. I don't know what in an missing or maybe my ears don't match transistor sounds
@user-ko8kx8vf1k
@user-ko8kx8vf1k 2 ай бұрын
Really cool gear. My question Danny isnt there any power conditioner that works? While battery power is ok doesn't translate to all of us with lot of equipment that all plugs in.
@dannyrichie9743
@dannyrichie9743 2 ай бұрын
There are good conditioners out there. We use a P.I. Audio Uber buss and we use a Dodd Audio balanced power supply.
@greggb681
@greggb681 2 ай бұрын
Ooh yes, battery powered ftw! Sutherland had a few battery powered phono stages
@amankarwa1305
@amankarwa1305 2 ай бұрын
Danny, couple of questions: 1) how do you connect the mac mini to the dac via i2s i.e. does the mac mini have an i2s output, and what type of i2s cable/connection do you use? 2) is your Dodd preamp with variable gain? what gain do you usually run it at?
@dannyrichie9743
@dannyrichie9743 2 ай бұрын
The MacMini will recognize the DAC input and it will output an I2S signal through the USB output. My Dodd pre is not a variable gain. Mine has a unity gain output.
@tango_gru
@tango_gru 24 күн бұрын
@@dannyrichie9743 hmmmm... what device will help getting the I2S signal over USB ???
@dannyrichie9743
@dannyrichie9743 24 күн бұрын
@@tango_gru Amanero makes an interface module.
@chrisbarber8839
@chrisbarber8839 2 ай бұрын
Check out NAT Magnetostat battery pre amp
@MyTgangsta
@MyTgangsta 2 ай бұрын
Is dodd audio still available for their amp and preamps
@markwilding3828
@markwilding3828 Ай бұрын
What did you think of the R2R dacs?
@dchale1
@dchale1 2 ай бұрын
Cool system.
@coldfinger459sub0
@coldfinger459sub0 2 ай бұрын
Gabster KZfaq channel has DC power supplies for preamp and stereo amplifiers and Dax using super capacitors. He shows how to construct the kits on how to make everything and he does the Bild video to show you .
@thomaslarsen9867
@thomaslarsen9867 2 ай бұрын
Yes you need capacitors in the PS. Batteris are aparentli too slow.
@mfr58
@mfr58 2 ай бұрын
Yes, but with tubes we need to find a practical way to get HT quietly.....
@coldfinger459sub0
@coldfinger459sub0 2 ай бұрын
@@mfr58 tubes require bigger batteries much much bigger
@mfr58
@mfr58 2 ай бұрын
@@coldfinger459sub0 That's why I said practical....
@coldfinger459sub0
@coldfinger459sub0 2 ай бұрын
@@mfr58 you can use some of the low powered battery tubes that came from portable radio sets that were designed to use small batteries from back in the 40s and 50s and before. You make separate preamps that are extremely low power. I can literally run off of one or two regular 18 650 lithium ion batteries.. instead of the large carbon acid batteries or lead acid batteries that weighs several pounds from the 1940s. And you can even make power amplifiers out of battery specialty tubes that were for portable units with today’s battery technology it would be practical, and it is very easy to do .
@EJHilt
@EJHilt 2 ай бұрын
This reminds me of Paul from ps audio from his power transformers and power conditioners that company provides.
@dylanbond1627
@dylanbond1627 2 ай бұрын
Some cool stuff here but as far as running everything off batteries, you can achieve the same effect by using an online UPS, which converts the AC power to DC and then back to AC to make it perfectly stable. These are used for electronics that are ultra sensitive to inconsistent power, like medical equipment.
@dannyrichie9743
@dannyrichie9743 2 ай бұрын
Unfortunately those devices tend to limit current.
@dylanbond1627
@dylanbond1627 2 ай бұрын
@@dannyrichie9743 How much do you need? A ~$1500 unit can flow something like 25 amps if my math is correct.
@dannyrichie9743
@dannyrichie9743 2 ай бұрын
@@dylanbond1627 It isn't so much as what they are rated at continuous, but what they do to instantaneous peaks.
@v12alpine
@v12alpine 2 ай бұрын
I'm curious how you're getting i2s out of the mini. Did you tap into the internal DAC chip?
@dannyrichie9743
@dannyrichie9743 2 ай бұрын
It will communicate with the DAC input to send the I2S direct signal through the USB output.
@42itous1
@42itous1 2 ай бұрын
Wondering what format you rip cds to to play on mac mini? And do you buy digital downloads like from hdtracks etc.? What sounds best? I'm guessing you don't do streaming.
@dannyrichie9743
@dannyrichie9743 2 ай бұрын
I rip straight from the CD to an AIFF format.
@saltydog4981
@saltydog4981 2 ай бұрын
Hello, I recently started contemplating using a computer UPS to run my small gear. Do you think that a product like cyberpower sine wave battery backup can do the trick to eliminate the noise from the power source. I recently bought a LPSU and the change was dramatic to my headphone amp and dac. So I was wandering if a near perfect sine wave would have a positive impact on the overall system?
@dannyrichie9743
@dannyrichie9743 2 ай бұрын
I don't think those batteries are large enough for the task. Plus big AGB batteries are pretty cheap.
@tango_gru
@tango_gru 24 күн бұрын
Hey Danny , Whats the year of manufacturing of your Mac Mini ? Any idea about the exact model ??
@tango_gru
@tango_gru 24 күн бұрын
I found it after reading other comments. It’s a Mac mini 2014 with snow leopard OS.
@glenncurry3041
@glenncurry3041 2 ай бұрын
The original Advent 300 receiver runs on 12VDC. It has a 12VDC jack on the back for it. So it could be used in cars. I've got one. You don't discuss how the 12-24VDC is turned into HV DC for the tubes. Multiple voltage doublers? Through AC conversion? Since the tubes can't be used before it is available, it can't be tube based. Being old, I remember physical vibrators to make tube radios work in cars.
@owenjbrady
@owenjbrady Ай бұрын
I really wonder what music you play on your system
@Starch1b2c3d4a
@Starch1b2c3d4a 2 ай бұрын
Would be cool to see how you modded the mac mini... Any diy instructions out there?
@dannyrichie9743
@dannyrichie9743 2 ай бұрын
Eric from db Audio labs is the expert in that department.
@tango_gru
@tango_gru 24 күн бұрын
@@dannyrichie9743 DB audio labs website seems to be hosted on an old gen computer... its loading really slow.
@tdevosodense
@tdevosodense 2 ай бұрын
Normal pc and laptops internally - 5 and 12 volts 🤓🇩🇰 19 volts is only to be able to have more watts thru to cable
@doodahdavesrecords4319
@doodahdavesrecords4319 2 ай бұрын
Nice T shirt
@jasonwebb6484
@jasonwebb6484 2 ай бұрын
I’ve heard a few people say lithium batteries powering audio equipment do not sound good (just as Dodd said in his experimenting). He said Dodd figured out why - would be interesting.
@Ukraine4TheWin
@Ukraine4TheWin 2 ай бұрын
I've been looking for a system like this for a few years now, to no avail. What were the issues using Lithium batteries? I have 4 100amp/hr LiFePo batteries I could use for a 12v off-grid audio system. I've thought about using car audio equipment, but the specs on amps seems to be all about volume/power and not about sound quality. Short of taking an electronics course to build my own 12v system, do you have any recommendations?
@byrnemcneill
@byrnemcneill 2 ай бұрын
The lithium batteries (LiFePo included) have a battery management system onboard. From my understanding, the circuitry is fairly cheap and digitally controls the input and output with the main goal being to protect the cells themselves. Lead acid batteries are a fairly “dumb” electron transfer chemical reaction, so when you apply juice at one end, the electrons move one way, and when you demand power, they flow the other way. If you run a lead acid battery all the way down (within reason), it will typically recharge. Excessive discharge on a lithium battery severely reduces the life span. Some smart cookie could probably design a better BMS circuit that smooths ripple and delivers something similar to lead acid.
@zaldam
@zaldam 2 ай бұрын
Regarding charging and discharging lead-acid and LiFePO4 batteries the opposite od what you stated is actually the case. ​@@byrnemcneill
@MaxiMe-et4zs
@MaxiMe-et4zs 2 ай бұрын
@@byrnemcneill question, I was under the impression that the BMS is only for charging and equalizing the cells. If the batteries are full and you remove the charger you and up only with cells, nothing more. Or am I wrong?
@MaxiMe-et4zs
@MaxiMe-et4zs 2 ай бұрын
I know of a Swiss audio “company “ that uses battery power, it’s called audio consulting.
@craigellsworth3952
@craigellsworth3952 2 ай бұрын
Danny, maybe you could show your rig at the small yearly show in Dallas.
@dannyrichie9743
@dannyrichie9743 2 ай бұрын
I have many times.
@craigellsworth3952
@craigellsworth3952 2 ай бұрын
See you there next month or so.
@stefpichette7742
@stefpichette7742 2 ай бұрын
Hey danny my dac makes noise from the case like the transformer when i use a battery and power inverter 🤷🏼‍♂️on it
@jondonnelly4831
@jondonnelly4831 2 ай бұрын
Its the invertor, you need a dac that runs on dc.
@vikinghasselo
@vikinghasselo 2 ай бұрын
My experience with C-tec chargers are that they are extremely noicy. Do you use them connected, turned on, while listening to music, or are C-tec shut off then?
@dannyrichie9743
@dannyrichie9743 2 ай бұрын
It depends on which model of charger you use. The larger ones can be noisy, and the smaller ones can be dead quiet.
@stewart73
@stewart73 2 ай бұрын
Wow, this is just amazing. Thanks so much for sharing this with us. :)
@dansiegrist1728
@dansiegrist1728 2 ай бұрын
This isn't necessarily anything new or groundbreaking. Jeff Rowland has been making battery-powered electronics since the mid 90s. Edge Amplifiers did around that time, too. However, the Dodd stuff is interesting because they were using tubes instead of solid state and it seems really reasonably priced. Jeff Rowland's Model 9s were 3 chassis per channel (one for the amp, one for the powers supply, and one for the batteries) and weighed about 600 pounds. They were also about $20k per pair, if I remember right. Thanks, as always, for the great content, Danny.
@gotchagoing4905
@gotchagoing4905 2 ай бұрын
Danny, what disc player do you use? I'm only interested in music playback, and you have my wheels turning now, but I have around 600 cd's that I would truly love to hear for the 'first time' if you get my meaning.
@dannyrichie9743
@dannyrichie9743 2 ай бұрын
I only use the original CD to burn it to my external hard drive. I never play from the CD.
@jonesaleroy
@jonesaleroy 2 ай бұрын
That's genius. Get rid of the ac! I know how much noise ac can make. Been an electronical tech and electrician for over 30 years. The back feed on the neutral from lights and equipment cause havoc in audio circuits. Now we have dacs all digital so almost no noise except operational electrical characteristics of the circuit design. The distortion from that is like .0036 or better. Only gonna hear the difference in high resolution music on a good system. Most people can't hear anything even close to that.
@Finite-Tuning
@Finite-Tuning 2 ай бұрын
12vdc batteries sound best when the positive pole is facing true south!
@Take-the-Ticket
@Take-the-Ticket 2 ай бұрын
Yes, but you are completely ignoring the effect of detrimental room temperatures, not to mention exciting the barometric pressure harmonics.
@miscreant1739
@miscreant1739 2 ай бұрын
I get better results with it facing magnetic south rather than true south. I think you have to have a real golden ear like mine to tell the difference though because none of my friends or family could tell and they measured identically.
@castro619a
@castro619a 2 ай бұрын
I like to compare noise floor in speakers to black levels of OLED’s
@ThresholdZhor
@ThresholdZhor 2 ай бұрын
I think you are like me that prefer to use analog volume, digital volume preamps convert analog to digital to process the volume control and after convert digital to analog, in that process the sound loose nirvana, that's why I prefer to have a preamp with a excellent analog potentiometer
@brunorivademar5356
@brunorivademar5356 2 ай бұрын
Living right in the middle of a big city my ac noise has gotten so bad I can barely listen with my system anymore. I have no idea what the heck is happening but basically 4 out 5 times its unlistenable. Even past midnight! ;(
@robertdavis1976
@robertdavis1976 2 ай бұрын
Hi Danny. Please, please, please answer this one question (built a SS pre-amp a few years ago using +/- 12 Volts with two sealed lead acid batteries). What battery charger do you use that does not affect the sound even when hooked up? Also, could you send a link where I can get it?
@dannyrichie9743
@dannyrichie9743 2 ай бұрын
C-Tek chargers.
@robertdavis1976
@robertdavis1976 2 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@Margarinetaylorgrease
@Margarinetaylorgrease 2 ай бұрын
I NEED to know why the lithium didn’t work out. I’ve used Lifepo4 batteries and it sounded better than mains. I’m left wondering.
@dannyrichie9743
@dannyrichie9743 2 ай бұрын
It has something to do with the output impedance and the electronics built into the battery.
@vetreportsaei4605
@vetreportsaei4605 2 ай бұрын
Danny, guys... I have underground wiring from the city so my situation might not be as precarious as some folks. I can't, at this time, go off the grid. Do you have any bang for the buck AC line improvements for my DAC, tube pre-amp and my amps. I have both an old Counterpoint hybrid amp and some little EL 84 tube amps.
@dannyrichie9743
@dannyrichie9743 2 ай бұрын
If you can set a battery in your floor somewhere you can be off the grid with any gear designed to run on 12 volts.
@vetreportsaei4605
@vetreportsaei4605 2 ай бұрын
@@dannyrichie9743 Thank you Danny. I aspire to that as the wife and finances allow. In the mean time are there any DC filters that are an improvement ? Those iFi DC purifiers , for example ?
@ITWINGMAN
@ITWINGMAN 2 ай бұрын
Once Audiophiles and Home Theater Enthusiast discover this Tesla Power Wall sales will go thru the ROOF!, I would recommend that Magico, Wilson and Focal get their sales team on it and become Tesla Power Wall disruptors. The Tesla Powerwall is a rechargeable lithium-ion battery stationary home energy storage product manufactured by Tesla Energy. You mentioned there where or are issues with lithium-ion hopefully they can resolve them.
@user-zq8pp3ul2c
@user-zq8pp3ul2c 2 ай бұрын
It's basically a billion farad capacitor in the power supply
@Fiend404
@Fiend404 2 ай бұрын
what model mac mini are you using?
@dannyrichie9743
@dannyrichie9743 2 ай бұрын
I think mine is a 2014 model running Snow Leopard. The older ones allow more to be shut down that is not being used and have the best sound.
@JR-ho5qm
@JR-ho5qm 2 ай бұрын
Do you have a pair of Brutes, or Bully’s in your system to listen to once in a while for something different?
@dannyrichie9743
@dannyrichie9743 2 ай бұрын
I do, or at least I did. Ron (New Record Day) has them right now.
@s_r_v
@s_r_v 2 ай бұрын
Very interesting, what I don't understand is how the c-tec which is on the grid is not introducing grid noise back into the system??? What have I missed???
@dannyrichie9743
@dannyrichie9743 2 ай бұрын
I don't know, but the trickle charge system is very quiet.
@zaldam
@zaldam 2 ай бұрын
It is about the impedance. What little noise ctec makes is sunk in to the battery like in a black hole
@fullranger3435
@fullranger3435 2 ай бұрын
@@dannyrichie9743 my system is completely off the grid too, I use regular, lead-acid/ calcium, car batteries up to 75 amphours, I use c-tec charger too but I did notice a degradation of sound when the charger was left on. So I've been just listening and recharging later. That experiment was long ago, though. Perhaps I'll try again, based on your words.
@iamsometimes6712
@iamsometimes6712 2 ай бұрын
@@zaldam ??? batteries are not capacitors. Slow-ish chemical process vs order of magnitudes faster charge transfers.
@TheCharlesAtoz
@TheCharlesAtoz 2 ай бұрын
Danny- do you have his designs to produce new gear?
@dannyrichie9743
@dannyrichie9743 2 ай бұрын
I do have schematics for some of his designs.
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