Update Breaks EVERYTHING

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Titus Tech Talk

Titus Tech Talk

Күн бұрын

KDE 6 and Wayland hate me.
Chapters:
00:00:00 - Updating Everything
00:07:18 - Terminals
00:09:51 - nVidia NVK
00:12:28 - Updating Begins
00:18:36 - Everything Broke
00:23:57 - Still Broken
00:40:13 - Rollback
00:48:52 - Wayland Rant
00:52:18 - RPM-OSTREE Layering X11
01:09:21 - Troubleshooting the Breakage
01:55:48 - Fixed KDE messup with Cache
02:09:47 - Auto BIOS UPDATE!?!
02:17:32 - Wrapping Up .
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@lucolesco
@lucolesco Ай бұрын
you gotta use a stable distro like Arch, man
@Viesta
@Viesta Ай бұрын
i think the whole point is to make bazzite itself stable...
@Chemical_X13
@Chemical_X13 Ай бұрын
@@Viesta r/woosh
@Viesta
@Viesta Ай бұрын
@@Chemical_X13 can't tell if people are serious or not now a days... though it probably should've been a dead giveaway when they said arch lol
@Mr3X7R3M3
@Mr3X7R3M3 Ай бұрын
@@Viesta I use arch as a daily driver on my budget gaming PC… zero issues at all, even plays helldivers better than my friends on windows/ps5! I didnt use the arch installer, and manually installed the wine/proton dependencies as well. Arch is great!
@smallclover
@smallclover Ай бұрын
It's a talent to be able to break a Atomic Distro by just putting in one command and then rebooting 😂
@TitusTechTalk
@TitusTechTalk Ай бұрын
I'm skilled what can say...
@pitape1822
@pitape1822 Ай бұрын
I upgraded from Bazzite 2.5 based on Fedora 39 to Bazzite 3.0 based on Fedora 40 with no issues at all. And this is the Nvidia version on a hybrid Nvidia-AMD laptop.
@michaelgleason4791
@michaelgleason4791 Ай бұрын
"Whatever makes my life easier." Proceeds to use Arch.
@cameronbosch1213
@cameronbosch1213 Ай бұрын
Oddly enough, the only distro I've had problems with KDE Plasma 6 was on KDE Neon, and let's be honest, that distro is not meant for daily driving; it's more of a development platform. The only issue I had with it on Arch was once the upgrade was finished, I had to use the command-line to reboot; similar to KDE Neon, the power off options in the menu did nothing, but did work properly after a reboot.
@SH-qb1du
@SH-qb1du Ай бұрын
I updated all 4 of my machines to F40 + KDE Plasma6 and it just seems so much faster bootup/shutdown. Didnt have any problems, but I completely broke sound a couple of months back. Sorry for your trouble but learning so much right now.
@UltraZelda64
@UltraZelda64 Ай бұрын
I didn't get the notification of Fedora 40 or the button to be able to update it until a few days after it released. I impatiently attempted to follow the instructions on their site to use DNF to do a manual update to 40, but I kept running into errors (I believe regarding repositories, dependencies, etc.) so I just gave up. So I waited, and a couple days later I did the usual system update with the GUI, rebooted, and then received the message with a button for update. Clicked it, it mentioned a series of changes (many of which dnf gave me errors previously regarding dependencies or something). Clicked okay. It started downloading, rebooted and installed. Rebooted successfully into the new version. I was actually surprised at how flawless the upgrade was--I would normally perform upgrades by wiping / and reinstalling with the latest installation disc. I was thinking that because I was using the KDE version instead of the standard GNOME "Workstation" version that it probably wouldn't update at all.
@TeamLinux01
@TeamLinux01 Ай бұрын
I figured out how to build my own Bazzite image. Forked the official repo, changed the rpm packages and flatpaks I wanted installed and had to change the github action to rclone to my server. I was thinking of doing the same to Aurora.
@user-eh8oo4uh8h
@user-eh8oo4uh8h Ай бұрын
Fedora 40 (updating from 39) was a nightmare for me. I was so tempted to zapp the hard drive and start from fresh. Took half a day of messing around to get it stable.
@steilkurbler4973
@steilkurbler4973 Ай бұрын
It broke half of my perfectly working applications for me. Spent a day trouble shooting and then switched to PopOS. Now stuff works again. I really like Fedora, but I need my PC in a working state. I wasn't even actively updating, my SSD died and I just loaded the newest Fedora Iso and half of the stuff that was working on 39 didn't anymore on 40.
@user-gu7wy3qj9x
@user-gu7wy3qj9x 25 күн бұрын
and then fedora users ''accuse'' debian-based distros for not being up-to-date and cutting-edge. only use debian-based distros to be on the safe side. without them, i would rather be still using windows than trying linux ...if a distro can not perform an easy, fast, hassle-free update to a new stable version is amateurish, at least to my eyes. so: linux mint xfce for as long as it gets! upgrading from 20.3 to 21 and using my laptop again for work took me half an hour!
@9SMTM6
@9SMTM6 Ай бұрын
Dude. If you blame someone then please do some research. Plasma 6 isn't forcing Wayland. All it does is switch to it by default - what the hell else was it supposed to do, X11 is going bye bye eventually and only by switching the default will you find issues that need to be fixed when X11 eventually goes. It was the choice of Fedora to switch to Wayland only, prematurely at that, as it is known to do.
@bes12000
@bes12000 Ай бұрын
An update Broke Arch, it get stuck on boot with no keyboard/mouse like the USB ports aren't initializing (led lights not coming on being the indicator), good thing it saves backups, I loaded one of those and it came back.
@toddmclaughlin8153
@toddmclaughlin8153 Ай бұрын
I tryed to install this on a laptop. It decided some place a long the way to show everything in portrait mode for the deslpay. made it tuff to install. It did not find the Wi-FI. I gave up and used Nobara. It worked fine.
@oscs4556
@oscs4556 Ай бұрын
Windows does auto update the bios too. Even on new hp laptops from my experience.
@aussieanon-369
@aussieanon-369 24 күн бұрын
I always do a clean install with a major release, but understand that some people cant, or dont prefer to. But no issues on my ROG Ally with v40.
@RubenAlamillaEspinosa82
@RubenAlamillaEspinosa82 Ай бұрын
What distro recommend for a asus laptop with optimus igpu (intel/nvidia rtx3050)? i game occasionaly, but i love use linux..
@TheCharlos64
@TheCharlos64 Ай бұрын
My friend had a problem with the wallpaper shuffle thing
@Chemical_X13
@Chemical_X13 Ай бұрын
installed plasma 6 but it kept breaking each login. keyboard didnt wanna work and then if i clicked the mouse too fast it broke the xcursor for xorg apps. its kind of dissapointing.
@macrichterj19
@macrichterj19 Ай бұрын
I use Better Snap Tool in Mac but I do agree Windows 11 tiling has got a lot better.
@injuneer7942
@injuneer7942 Ай бұрын
Titus OS? I can hardly wait! :)
@newbtop
@newbtop Ай бұрын
Spontaneous, unscripted videos are the best! Thanks, man!
@wills8869
@wills8869 Ай бұрын
Titus always breaking something. Itd my joy to watch these streams
@CCJ1998
@CCJ1998 Ай бұрын
KDE 6 is what drove me to Debian from being a Daily Driver Arch user for 2 years now. It'll improve over time, but for now I'll stick with Plasma 5 to get work done.
@bulldata
@bulldata Ай бұрын
Chris, about 10 years ago, I had a notice to update my HP BIOS. Note: I had my family genealogy on my old HP computer with over 16,000 family members on our tree. I performed the update. When the system updated and tried to restart, my files on my hard drive and, unfortunately, my connected external backup drive, were gone! I lost 25 years of research. I had to restore Windows and install all of my applications and whatever family files that I had on DVDs. I could only imagine that some disgruntled employee infected the BIOS files. I suspect that person is no longer employed by HP. These days, I backup to my external hard drive and on one or more flash drives.
@uzer_zero
@uzer_zero Ай бұрын
I keep seeing videos about NAS (and related) in my KZfaq feed. No idea why, since I'd never have any use for one. As a means of preventing the event you described here... that would have qualified, I think. 🙂
@user-gu7wy3qj9x
@user-gu7wy3qj9x 25 күн бұрын
man, this was a nightmare. i hope we all learn from your experience.NEVER update anything without external physical back-up of important files and ALWAYS with external drives physically disconnected.
@bulldata
@bulldata 25 күн бұрын
@@uzer_zero Believed me. It was an experience that I won't forget. I now backup to my external HDD and to two SSDs.
@PedroHenriqueQuiteteBarreto
@PedroHenriqueQuiteteBarreto Ай бұрын
Chris, try Slackware current. It works like a rolling distro, but much more stable
@hawk_7000
@hawk_7000 Ай бұрын
Tbf, Windows Update also updates UEFI ("BIOS") on supported systems these days.
@brahmhenkins8732
@brahmhenkins8732 29 күн бұрын
I have not had a single successful Plasma 5 to 6 upgrade - had to do a fresh install every time, including on Arch. After the fresh install everything went fine, but there doesn't seem to be a successful upgrade path so far.
@oscs4556
@oscs4556 Ай бұрын
OpenSuse kalpa still defaults to x11. Would have been great if bazzite uses OpenSuse kalpa as the base instead of fedora kiniote.
@PantsManUK
@PantsManUK Ай бұрын
Still pretty sure the issue is synergy - both they and barrier don't support wayland. It's about the only thing stopping me changing my playbox VM over to a KDE 6 distro.
@macmagic21
@macmagic21 Ай бұрын
Since I had to hand over my gamingroom to my newborn... I've used my full on gaming rig in the living room on my tv like a "console" with windows... which everyone knows sucks (keyboard / mouse) on couch Tested bazzite hoping I could use it like a real convenient console with the gaming mode (gamescope) but it just seem to work in desktop mode. Does gamescope / gaming mode only work on a handheld? Does anyone know? Tested bazzite stable... bazzite deck stable... and hints most welcome
@iv7896
@iv7896 Ай бұрын
how to use ani-cli with bazzite ?
@ChuckNorris-lf6vo
@ChuckNorris-lf6vo Ай бұрын
That's it software only breaks never works same for hardware. I move to food industry at least there may be food in food industry.
@z0rden_
@z0rden_ Ай бұрын
Food can get rotten too or can be poisoned,just saying
@ChuckNorris-lf6vo
@ChuckNorris-lf6vo Ай бұрын
@z0rden_ don't eat it then I don't eat nasty food but yeah takeout be nasty sometime I summon the ramzy to kick their ass
@user-gu7wy3qj9x
@user-gu7wy3qj9x 25 күн бұрын
a very useful, humoristic and mind-opening video about the ''king'' of linux distros...🤭🤭😏😏
@raderator
@raderator 21 күн бұрын
I'll be using Zorin Core 16 until 4/25, then be forced to upgrade to 17. Works perfectly on all my old biz desktops. Even Wayland. I stayed with Chrome, use Google Docs and Pinta for photo editing. I am not a Linux nerd so have few problems.
@georgeindestructible
@georgeindestructible Ай бұрын
I have 4 PCs (2 Desktops, 2 laptops) of various specs ranging within the decade from 2006 all the way up to 2023 hardware-wise and KDE on Arch has never had an single issue so far, somehow, how am i this lucky, no idea.
@benjy288
@benjy288 28 күн бұрын
I don't know why they made wayland the default for plasma 6 when window shading doesn't even work on plasma wayland, that bug was reported 7 years ago and they still haven't fixed it, but I guess that's kde for you, they're more focused on adding features than fixing bugs.
@bfrazer4126
@bfrazer4126 Ай бұрын
Less than one minute into a 2.25 hour video, "Probably going to be a short stream today... Not too long." Nice.
@impersonator4439
@impersonator4439 Ай бұрын
Classic linux, everything works until updates.
@tonyt-21
@tonyt-21 Ай бұрын
TitusOS would be rad especially if you included all of your epic interface customizations like your desktop / top bar, console, browser etc
@RobRaines
@RobRaines Ай бұрын
The creator will probably break it.
@Chr0n0s38
@Chr0n0s38 Ай бұрын
Plasma 6 doesn't force wayland, that's a Fedora decision. KDE just made waylaed the default (and distros can choose to change that if they want). Remember, Fedora is basically a bleeding edge distro, you git the new tech stacks fast and they well deprecate the old ones fast. Also I've been running plasma 6 on wayland since day 1 and it's been as stable as 5.27 (and more stable than on 5.27 on x11 was funny enough).
@michaelgleason4791
@michaelgleason4791 Ай бұрын
What I learned from this is never challenge Chris to break something
@archpenguin6646
@archpenguin6646 Ай бұрын
I just did a fresh install to 3 without issue
@motionthings
@motionthings 11 күн бұрын
"Atomic desktops are the future" - Titus. "So is Wayland" -me
@gr33nDestiny
@gr33nDestiny Ай бұрын
Yes to TitusOS
@MrGFYne1337357
@MrGFYne1337357 Ай бұрын
Honestly, without reading anything of how bazzite works on fedora and having it installed, I don't think the "distro" means anything. If you have an imagination, and understand how and what linux does best, virtualization. You quickly realize . The distro doesn't matter. You can also go into per app settings and allow what ever app, full on 0777 if you want. Without ever having to touch `setenforce`
@XeZrunner
@XeZrunner Ай бұрын
I'm surprised KDE itself doesn't clear the cache on updates. But even worse is the BIOS auto update. It was already bad that Windows does it on laptops and on battery, now Linux distros just randomly doing it...
@HikariKnight
@HikariKnight Ай бұрын
The bios got updated only because he manually accepted the bios update through discover, it is disabled when you do ujust update.
@doudoud82
@doudoud82 Ай бұрын
from what I know NVK don't work for maxwell-based and pascal GPUs GeForce 800M, 900M, 900 ,1000 , MX 100,MX 200, and 750 no idea how nouveau do with these GPU nowadays.
@TitusTechTalk
@TitusTechTalk Ай бұрын
NVK is only 2000, 3000, 4000 series cards.
@olnnn
@olnnn Ай бұрын
Nouveau is somewhat usable other than vulkan support afaik on maxwel and older cards but you have to manually set the gpu power state to get any decent performance as they don't have any automatic power management with the open source drivers which makes using them somewhat janky. NVK does technically work on maxwell, pascal and kepler cards but it's buggy and has to be enabled manually. Pascal (1000-series) are kinda useless with nouveau drivers since there is no support for changing gpu power state so you are stuck with the gpu in the lowest power state meaning terrible performance.
@kingforkings
@kingforkings Ай бұрын
right now meta+P is broken on Xorg and maybe wayland too. I dislike this issue so much.
@necuz
@necuz Ай бұрын
In a nutshell NVK can run DX9/10 games with playable performance, DX11 with bad performance, and DX12 not at all. NVK + Zink is significantly better than the old Nouveau OpenGL. Don't try to use it on anything older than a 16/20 series card.
@rc2276
@rc2276 Ай бұрын
I still live in i3. It's basic and everything works. Reliability.
@Nerd2Ninja
@Nerd2Ninja Ай бұрын
You can break NixOS. I've done it before. You just have to use the unstable channel lol (and apparently switch between multiple desktop environments without running the garbage collector in between). TBH, I don't understand why NixOS has an unstable channel or what is actually unstable about it. Oh I should mention I switched to the unstable channel to update to KDE 6 on NixOS and it broke Grub or something because trying to switch to an iteration that had cinnamon installed made it upset just as much as trying to boot into KDE 6
@EmilKarloOLIakaKAN
@EmilKarloOLIakaKAN Ай бұрын
..Probably will be short stream (0:50) .. ;)
@s7ppy
@s7ppy Ай бұрын
top 10 moments recorded seconds before disaster
@matthewstott3493
@matthewstott3493 Ай бұрын
If it's any consolation... I was laughing at your update misfortune, while updating Ubuntu 20.04 LTS server, fully supported for another year. When it killed my LXD from making a socket connection. Something about a cgroup / cgroup2 issue. LXD with ZFS being this servers only function. LXD installed via Snap as well. I suspect a breaking change to the kernel slipped through. Attempted a previous kernel at grub2 boot only for it to still fail. Ended up upgrading the release to 22.04 and then everything started working. Nothing weird, all Ubuntu all the time. I didn't have time to debug the root cause. Considering redoing this server with NixOS as Ubuntu w/LXD have let me down. Guess their takeover of LXD and the loss of some top tier talent has resulted in breaking changes.
@jrowen76
@jrowen76 Ай бұрын
Try the gnome version rebase..
@MauriBT
@MauriBT Ай бұрын
last update breaks goverlay
@JessicaFEREM
@JessicaFEREM Ай бұрын
xorg and wayland both have their issues for me, xorg is slower and doesn't have per-display fractional scaling, and wayland is buggy and doesn't play nice with nvidia
@MrQuay03
@MrQuay03 Ай бұрын
Can't even use Wayland with my Nvidia 1650 laptop. Multi display just crashed if i switch to it. X11 has screen tearing, bad scaling.
@AstralPhnx
@AstralPhnx Ай бұрын
>Nvidia >Wayland >Plasma 6 OH DEAR THAT'S NOT A GOOD COMBO
@jrowen76
@jrowen76 Ай бұрын
They had every desktop offered.
@RefiaKazus
@RefiaKazus Ай бұрын
I reinstalled fedora39, fedora40 with KDE plasma6 just isn't ready, buggy isn't the word for this shit show, ill give it 6 months and hope when 41 releases that they fix the issues.
@yigitorhan7654
@yigitorhan7654 Ай бұрын
Looks like Plasma 6.1 will be it. That teleases on June, I think.
@RefiaKazus
@RefiaKazus Ай бұрын
Looking forward to it​@@yigitorhan7654
@steilkurbler4973
@steilkurbler4973 Ай бұрын
Fedora 40 with Gnome isn't ready either
@yigitorhan7654
@yigitorhan7654 Ай бұрын
@@steilkurbler4973 I had a GNOME software center crash issue even when 39 was mature.
@RefiaKazus
@RefiaKazus 29 күн бұрын
To their credit, all my gripes have already been ironed out, way less buggy than release day!!
@catriona_drummond
@catriona_drummond Ай бұрын
Auto BIOS update seems a common OEM thing. Bought a few HP mini PCs recently and Windows 10 also just downloaded UEFI and installed updates for the things. I guess with the amount of silicon level and BIOS level security issues we have recently, it is the thing to do, especially in the corporate space.
@snebes_sbs
@snebes_sbs Ай бұрын
kde 6 hates kde 5, wayland hates everyone.
@FoxPlays-roblox
@FoxPlays-roblox Ай бұрын
try very old debian
@hafo821
@hafo821 Ай бұрын
I have tested this distro few weeks ago and it was a horrible buggy mess 🤣🤣🤣😁💀💀
@trinhmecha
@trinhmecha Ай бұрын
titus seems to be those unlucky users, he was getting system update broken with manjaro an arch based distro and now bazzite which is a fedora based one. im sorry but this is just too hilarious 🤣
@TitusTechTalk
@TitusTechTalk Ай бұрын
While some may say I'm unlucky... I see content! hahahaha, I really didn't think this one would break. I still love the distro though. I can't get Helldivers 2 working on any other distro for some odd reason. It won't even load in Windows, but it does with Bazzite, so there is that!
@emilnordgard5228
@emilnordgard5228 Ай бұрын
Just use Jovian Nixos, just sayin.
@pig12900
@pig12900 Ай бұрын
linux mint is the solution or just use windows.
@CarsonTheCanuck
@CarsonTheCanuck Ай бұрын
I dunno man. Using arch on wayland for over a year without issues and I'm one of those fools who does a pacman -Syu and reboots without reading anything 😂
@yigitorhan7654
@yigitorhan7654 Ай бұрын
What do you read? I just read the news on the main page.
@CarsonTheCanuck
@CarsonTheCanuck Ай бұрын
@@yigitorhan7654 I said I *dont* read anything. Whether that be output in the terminal, or on arch news
@rowlul
@rowlul Ай бұрын
Bro 😭
@z0rden_
@z0rden_ Ай бұрын
Linux updates your bios too? wow
@motoryzen
@motoryzen Ай бұрын
Via your manual choice, yes it probably can but here's the difference at least in Linux you have the choice AKA option. Micro crap wintered will mess with every bit of your Hardware it can no matter what why do you give her permission to or not
@PhantomWolf101
@PhantomWolf101 Ай бұрын
​@@motoryzenit did an auto update bro, watch the stream.
@z0rden_
@z0rden_ Ай бұрын
@@motoryzen I’m impressed with it,in shitdows you need to find the real bios and flash with your usb drive I hasnt knew that a OS can update your bios too it makes life much easier
@jrowen76
@jrowen76 Ай бұрын
You can ostree install local packages so why not
@HikariKnight
@HikariKnight Ай бұрын
@@PhantomWolf101he accepted the updates (by clicking install updates in discover when it listed what it would install), he could have unchecked the bios update if he had read, so no the bios was not auto updated
@ronnierush9379
@ronnierush9379 Ай бұрын
Ah well back to the start then, load up linux mint again 🙂
@jackelofnar
@jackelofnar Ай бұрын
When titus lacks the skill but bames Wayland instead
@TitusTechTalk
@TitusTechTalk Ай бұрын
Its always waylands fault! haha, actually this ended up being KDE screwing up the update from 5 to 6. Nothing to do with skill, just KDE devs not properly looking at cache and/or how the bazzite update is applied. Pick your poison, but KDE 6 isn't very good from my experiences from either a fresh install or upgrading to it.
@ffalcoff
@ffalcoff Ай бұрын
I'll move on to FreeBSD.
@9SMTM6
@9SMTM6 Ай бұрын
Gotta watch broadie, he covered that fedora 40 switch to Wayland only extensively. That affirmed my decision to stay with Arch. Don't misunderstand me, I love Wayland, and I use Wayland on Arch, but making Wayland the only realistic option SO shortly after switching to it primarily... Not my thing. With Arch you may sometimes be bleeding when it comes to updates, but when it comes to system component changes they don't force it down your throat if you're not ready. Your pain just increases slowly until you do, with Fedora they go from tickling your foot straight to cutting it off. So yeah. Arch for stability 😇🤦
@Bohdysattva
@Bohdysattva Ай бұрын
Block that Phoenix guy please. he is so annoying and pushy
@referralacc1033
@referralacc1033 Ай бұрын
Bruh i have seen this guy installing arch like 100000 times 😂😂😂 and yet it breaks again. I can understand its his job but seriously people who use arch btw dont have life or what ? Spending so much time just to maintain a pc is insane
@TitusTechTalk
@TitusTechTalk Ай бұрын
While you are not wrong about me breaking my install 100,000 times, this was Bazzite which is based off Fedora 40 using KDE.
@matthewness435
@matthewness435 Ай бұрын
Everyone should use Wayland 😊
@motoryzen
@motoryzen Ай бұрын
Nope because Waylon is not ready for prime time mainstream. There are certain things be at small or medium functionality that do not work or work correctly yet in Wayland
@ChuckNorris-lf6vo
@ChuckNorris-lf6vo Ай бұрын
First.
@djcetra
@djcetra Ай бұрын
lol imagine complaining about windows then dealing with this bs all the time 😂
@bradmiles1984
@bradmiles1984 Ай бұрын
The issues he deals with has less to do with Linux and more with Chris not reading and updating too early. Win11 has just as many if more issues with early feature updates. Anytime they update they have to hotfix the 20 things they break.
@catch82
@catch82 Ай бұрын
As with anything, you should never upgrade immediately. This is the same for Windows.
@TitusTechTalk
@TitusTechTalk Ай бұрын
I got out of my way to try everything the moment it comes out. A good example of this is in being on the Dev channel in Windows. Getting Ads on my start menu first, seeing Co-Pilot broken, and general issues is what I thrive on. Both Linux and Windows are fun to tinker and break. The more I break an OS, the easier it is for me to fix it and understand how it works. This also makes it easier to manipulate to my needs. While it is frustrating at the time, its more about the skills I pick up along the way and the knowledge gained.
@bradmiles1984
@bradmiles1984 Ай бұрын
@@TitusTechTalk Yeah I get why you do it, good way to learn and shows worst case scenarios. I was more pointing out that Linux isn't as unstable as the poster seems to think. I've had way less issues on Linux then I ever had in windows constantly breaking their own OS with "feature" updates.
@bradmiles1984
@bradmiles1984 Ай бұрын
@@catch82 Only updates ever do right away are for security vulnerabilities otherwise give it a few weeks.
@TorsionTestis
@TorsionTestis Ай бұрын
linux is not ready for mainstream. stick to windows
@V1CT1MIZED
@V1CT1MIZED Ай бұрын
After testing Linux for years, I agree.
@bradmiles1984
@bradmiles1984 Ай бұрын
If you mean mainstream, for people who can barely work a browser then yes it will never be ready but in terms of functionality it is ready. Problem is too many users are just dumb.
@MrQuay03
@MrQuay03 Ай бұрын
Stick to Mac. More stable than Windows
@bradmiles1984
@bradmiles1984 Ай бұрын
@MrQuay03 also has a sliver of the software and games that will work and locks you into paying for overpriced equipment. Most people end up having to dual boot it with boot camp to have windows, so what's the point.
@aijokker
@aijokker Ай бұрын
Vote now for TitusOS 🫵
@aijokker
@aijokker Ай бұрын
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