Update on the Karakurt-Class Ship Tsiklon -- Likely Sunk! (Rescue ships seen in area)

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Suchomimus

Suchomimus

26 күн бұрын

Satellite imagery shows damage to a building near where the Karakurt-class corvette Tsiklon was berthed in Sevastopol as well as a Project 23370 rescue ship and a Prut-Class Rescue Ship nearby)
Also, at least one Krivak-class frigate has been evacuated from Sevastopol
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@aib0160
@aib0160 25 күн бұрын
If the ship rolled when it sank it only needs to be the depth of the beam of the ship to completely submerge it.
@bigblue6917
@bigblue6917 25 күн бұрын
True. Also if it was hit there is a good chance the superstructure suffered major damage and this would reduced the height. So either way it would need less depth to totally submerge it.
@terryhoath1983
@terryhoath1983 25 күн бұрын
I was just going to write that it might have fallen over but you beat me by 12 minutes. I am crest-fallen.
@allanmason3201
@allanmason3201 25 күн бұрын
If another ship is never seen using this berthing position, that would be circumstantial evidence there's something submerged there which they're avoiding. The constantly reducing number of Russian ships in Sevastopol means there's plenty of space on the piers so it wouldn't be conclusive, but I assume the fact that one of the most important remaining ships was allocated to that berth must mean there's something positive about it's location.
@suchomimus9921
@suchomimus9921 25 күн бұрын
true--good point.
@cymeriandesigns
@cymeriandesigns 25 күн бұрын
​@@allanmason3201Given Ukraine's recent successes, it might be a long while before Russia has the temerity to berth any ships at all in that harbor. I would really like to see them try, however.
@GalootWrangler
@GalootWrangler 25 күн бұрын
The area is notorious for high winds, choppy seas, careless smokers and falling debris.
@bigblue6917
@bigblue6917 25 күн бұрын
Makes you wonder why the Russians wanted it.
@zzrider805
@zzrider805 25 күн бұрын
Almost a poem! Good job!
@junahn1907
@junahn1907 25 күн бұрын
Could have been hit by a Russian tank turret.
@KPKENNEDY
@KPKENNEDY 25 күн бұрын
@@junahn1907 ha ha
@Pikkabuu
@Pikkabuu 24 күн бұрын
​@@bigblue6917 Fame and honour as Sevastopol has been the main Russian naval base for centuries. And Putin cares about fame more than people.
@bigblue6917
@bigblue6917 25 күн бұрын
One more mystery from the notorious Black Sea Triangle
@venividiviking
@venividiviking 25 күн бұрын
More like Sevastopol harbour triangle
@bigblue6917
@bigblue6917 24 күн бұрын
@@venividiviking true, but I didn't want the other ship left out
@venividiviking
@venividiviking 24 күн бұрын
@@bigblue6917 you're a fair person 😁👍👌
@bigblue6917
@bigblue6917 22 күн бұрын
@@venividiviking How kind of you to notice😄
@nullc0ntext
@nullc0ntext 25 күн бұрын
Russia doing its part to help rebuild our damaged coral reefs with this generosity.
@B.D.E.
@B.D.E. 25 күн бұрын
Reefs yes, not coral reefs sadly.
@adriansheldon7778
@adriansheldon7778 25 күн бұрын
​@@B.D.E.still helps with the biodiversity of the sea .
@KityKatKiller
@KityKatKiller 24 күн бұрын
​@@adriansheldon7778 Not really though. It's far too polluting to have a net benefit, fuel chemicals, etc is horrible for the sea life.
@sjonnieplayfull5859
@sjonnieplayfull5859 24 күн бұрын
​@@KityKatKiller active ships pollute too. Af least these don't receive a monthly supply of new chemicals anymore
@edwinmartin9120
@edwinmartin9120 24 күн бұрын
coming up worlds longest fishing pier russia : ukraine : 😎😬😬
@cristo6007
@cristo6007 25 күн бұрын
Due to a lack of space "decommissioned" Russian ships are now being stored underwater 😊
@gm7304
@gm7304 25 күн бұрын
Davy Jones locker. You totally Rock.
@gm7304
@gm7304 25 күн бұрын
Dr. Wattson 🧐
@KPKENNEDY
@KPKENNEDY 25 күн бұрын
Here Comes That Sinking Feeling - Eurythmics
@adammorrissey
@adammorrissey 25 күн бұрын
The update we were hoping for
@DarkestAlice
@DarkestAlice 25 күн бұрын
Thank you, Suchomimus, for the update - I love all your analyses, but most of all, I love the BS Fleet ones. Thank you, for all your hard work and support of Ukrainian defenders 🤗 🇺🇦 Перемоги і миру всім українцям! 🇺🇦
@mickser101
@mickser101 24 күн бұрын
Lol Dinosaur boy is a Propagandist who only tells one side of the story. Funny how he never mentions Ukraines astronomical casualties.
@duffelesser6210
@duffelesser6210 25 күн бұрын
You're really wonderful! Thx from germany! Slava ukraini!
@taxesdeathandtrouble.1886
@taxesdeathandtrouble.1886 24 күн бұрын
He is isn’t he… The market needs to be saturated with Suchomimus patches/stickers, trading cards and plastered on the side of every one of these vehicles that he helped purchase via his generosity. Cheers
@sequoiasemperviren3163
@sequoiasemperviren3163 25 күн бұрын
I just love good news with my breakfast!
@davidfell9083
@davidfell9083 25 күн бұрын
Thanks Sucho. Interesting update. My Black Sea Fleet bingo card may well need updating.
@Lan_Zadura
@Lan_Zadura 25 күн бұрын
You make my mornings a little brighter Sucho.
@7screamingdizzbusters
@7screamingdizzbusters 25 күн бұрын
Thank you Suchomimus, always enjoy your informative reports 👍 Heroyam Slava
@mirola73
@mirola73 25 күн бұрын
Such an insult to Russia that they're losing ships galore to a country that doesn't have a navy to speak of. 'Mighty Russia' my behind. Was this the country we were all afraid of ? (yes, apart from nuclear weapons, I know)
@allydea
@allydea 25 күн бұрын
Yes, they are losing ships, but be real, this is total nothingburger. There is no proof of anything here. And were you previously afraid of Russia? Why, are you 90 years old and grew up during the Red Scare?
@abrahamdozer6273
@abrahamdozer6273 25 күн бұрын
Most of the nukes would be inoperable. It takes huge amounts of money and constant maintenance to keep nuclear weapons in working order. The propaganda value, though ...
@allydea
@allydea 25 күн бұрын
@@abrahamdozer6273 Sounds like you have an itch you really want to scratch. Curiosity had some negative influence on the cat from what I hear.
@canadiangemstones7636
@canadiangemstones7636 25 күн бұрын
@@allydeaMust be so embarrassing to be ruzzian, now that all your friends know you’re impotent.
@GaneshDevdas
@GaneshDevdas 24 күн бұрын
@@allydea nah! Just rusky's reallity😎
@klausberfelde-je2ye
@klausberfelde-je2ye 25 күн бұрын
Thank you for the update.
@spxram4793
@spxram4793 25 күн бұрын
6:20 if the floating crane intercepted an ATACMS as well, the harbour would be kind of reduced in capacity ...
@GlideYNRG
@GlideYNRG 24 күн бұрын
Those and more of their repair docks..
@daveroth1696
@daveroth1696 25 күн бұрын
I'm surprised Ukraine doesn’t have several drone boats outside the harbor when they do a missile strike like this to enable them to attack orher ships when the ATACMS strike flushes them from the harbor.
@allydea
@allydea 25 күн бұрын
They get gunned down by Russian Navy helicopters. Follow some other sources of info if you don't want to be half-stupid.
@andersjjensen
@andersjjensen 24 күн бұрын
They like to use drone boats at night, and Russia doesn't move the rest of the ships until the break of dawn.... probably for that very same reason.
@NAFO_Badger_Brigade
@NAFO_Badger_Brigade 23 күн бұрын
Virtually no ships in the once mighty Sevastapol! Great Work Ukraine!!!
@13699111
@13699111 25 күн бұрын
Thank you for posting this update
@jmcc5877
@jmcc5877 24 күн бұрын
I love your evidence based reporting.
@stianh6164
@stianh6164 25 күн бұрын
always happy to se a new upload 😊
@andyay9079
@andyay9079 25 күн бұрын
We might have to wait a little longer for conclusive proof, but I THINK THAT SHIP'S SOGGY TOAST.
@allydea
@allydea 25 күн бұрын
_Conclusive_ proof? How about _any_ proof? But don't worry, some people think the world is flat, so your unsubstantiated beliefs are not the worst in the world.
@davefave4351
@davefave4351 24 күн бұрын
​@@allydea How about you prove it to us with a positive sighting? I won't hold my breath....
@allydea
@allydea 24 күн бұрын
@@davefave4351 I'm not making any claims, therefore I don't need to provide anything.
@davefave4351
@davefave4351 24 күн бұрын
@@allydea You are claiming it's not been sunk. That IS the claim you are making, right?
@allydea
@allydea 24 күн бұрын
@@davefave4351 No, what I'm remarking is that no evidence has been provided in this video that the ship has been sunk.
@barbaramassey3787
@barbaramassey3787 25 күн бұрын
Thanks. 😊😊😊
@Nick-pq4ri
@Nick-pq4ri 25 күн бұрын
Great stuff 🇺🇦🇬🇧✌️
@friedrichjunzt
@friedrichjunzt 25 күн бұрын
**Undead Admiral Sokolov rubs his hands together with an evil grin**
@W_Bin
@W_Bin 24 күн бұрын
Stunningly clear satellite imagery! TY
@kevinp2593
@kevinp2593 24 күн бұрын
Morning Sucho 🌞 thanks for another uplifting video 😅 👍👍👍 Love your detective work, much appreciated
@AndyM_323YYY
@AndyM_323YYY 25 күн бұрын
Putler will throw a hissy fit if told the Russian Navy has accepted reality and abandoned Sevastopol.
@abrahamdozer6273
@abrahamdozer6273 25 күн бұрын
Somewhere, an Admiral is avoiding going upstairs in buildings.
@StillAliveAndKicking_
@StillAliveAndKicking_ 25 күн бұрын
They do as they are told.
@Hoaxer51
@Hoaxer51 25 күн бұрын
⁠@@abrahamdozer6273, He probably quit drinking tea as well!
@rocroc
@rocroc 25 күн бұрын
Thanks for the update!!!!
@magnum8264
@magnum8264 24 күн бұрын
Thanks for the accurate reporting!
@user-sc3nn1hf1o
@user-sc3nn1hf1o 24 күн бұрын
Excellent analysis as always. There were very big explosions in that location at the time, and muscovite milbloggers confirmed the sinking of the corvette, so that is pretty conclusive.
@philipmetcalfe4736
@philipmetcalfe4736 25 күн бұрын
LOL...at the " Grain Thief"......comment
@Cotictimmy
@Cotictimmy 25 күн бұрын
Go Ukraine!
@markmonaghan2309
@markmonaghan2309 25 күн бұрын
Fantastic thanks again
@lumax3009
@lumax3009 25 күн бұрын
Suchomimus is Top 💪👍🙏🤘
@OhYeah-qx9qn
@OhYeah-qx9qn 24 күн бұрын
Thanks for your always insightful analysis!
@UncleJoeLITE
@UncleJoeLITE 25 күн бұрын
Thanks Sucho. 💛⚓💙
@spxram4793
@spxram4793 25 күн бұрын
4:55 Hmmm. Can the ATACMS reach Novorossiysk? A nice collection of scrap metal, there.
@colbunkmust
@colbunkmust 25 күн бұрын
No, max range for the ATACMS is 190mi, from the front line to Novorossisk is about 250mi. Still in range of Storm-Shadow/ScalpEG though.
@spxram4793
@spxram4793 25 күн бұрын
@@colbunkmust ok, perfect. Neptune, the God of sea votes then for Storm Shadow 🤣
@benoithudson7235
@benoithudson7235 24 күн бұрын
More importantly is that the western powers are still pooping their pants about “escalation” and won’t let their weapons be used inside Russia.
@pierresaelen3097
@pierresaelen3097 24 күн бұрын
@@colbunkmust But once Crimea and the ban on the use of Western weapons on ruSSian territory will have fallen...
@colbunkmust
@colbunkmust 24 күн бұрын
@@pierresaelen3097 If Ukraine retakes Crimea, there likely won't be a need to strike targets in Russia. I can't imagine Putin's regime lasting long after if that happens.
@Sameoldsongdance
@Sameoldsongdance 25 күн бұрын
This may force Pootie into a old fashioned soviet style 'head rolling party' in his Grand Navy. Similar to what happened with recently at the 2nd (worst) army & all their generals being fired lately. You would think the Orcs could tolerate an amazing amount of incompetence. But it seems like even they have their limits.
@canadiangemstones7636
@canadiangemstones7636 25 күн бұрын
Remember how impenetrable the orc air defences were supposed to be? Those are the guys staying away from open windows, and not really enjoying their food anymore. 😂
@walsterdoomit
@walsterdoomit 25 күн бұрын
Cool TY 👍
@dsloop3907
@dsloop3907 25 күн бұрын
A tank turret might have sank it.
@toonverberg1313
@toonverberg1313 24 күн бұрын
Thanks for analyzing the pictures. Shows all signs russia's navy is enlarging it's submarine component on a steady pace.
@zzrider805
@zzrider805 25 күн бұрын
Suchomimus, if Tsiklon drowning gets confirmed and if you have the time, please update Bingo Card. Will this be enough to make a line? Thanks MUGA!!!
@Ayns.L14A
@Ayns.L14A 25 күн бұрын
Thanks Sucho.
@MattBellzminion
@MattBellzminion 25 күн бұрын
"Double your pleasure with double-tap fun!", to adapt an old Doublemint gum jingle.
@d.l.d.l.8140
@d.l.d.l.8140 24 күн бұрын
Great analysis. Thanks Sucho.
@suchomimus9921
@suchomimus9921 24 күн бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@rogerthorley2044
@rogerthorley2044 24 күн бұрын
Good work
@ronalddouglas7834
@ronalddouglas7834 25 күн бұрын
Thank heavens for nerds.
@sreed16
@sreed16 23 күн бұрын
Thanks for the video, good stuff.
@anzelmasmatutis2500
@anzelmasmatutis2500 25 күн бұрын
According Russians cruiser Moskva is still afloat :P
@karl0h580
@karl0h580 23 күн бұрын
I really enjoy these CSI: Miami kind of style videos
@JohnDoe-jd7oc
@JohnDoe-jd7oc 25 күн бұрын
Tks Cda.
@TheGrace020
@TheGrace020 25 күн бұрын
Badass 😎
@paulwood6729
@paulwood6729 24 күн бұрын
You've gotta love how Russia withdraws their air defences to protect them from air attack.
@paulyoung4422
@paulyoung4422 25 күн бұрын
A Brucie Bonus, for getting them all in order.
@anadin0612
@anadin0612 25 күн бұрын
Thank you good sir
@chrissheppard3023
@chrissheppard3023 25 күн бұрын
Sea trials could soon be sea bed trials 😂
@dianthus605
@dianthus605 25 күн бұрын
A bit unfortunate that a big white rectangle with the user name is plonked right on top of the only bit of sea we'd like to look at.
@jf7243
@jf7243 24 күн бұрын
Good old Davey Jones’ lockers; a happy place for the Black Sea fleet and her merry crew!
@williamjones9662
@williamjones9662 25 күн бұрын
The only problem with control freaks is they make errors in trust all the time.
@micahm5093
@micahm5093 24 күн бұрын
Boat width matters more than height, for submersion, as it's almost certain to roll to one side when it hits the bottom; Karakurt is 11m wide. Those depth values given on the page are shallower than quoted in the vid. Minimum depth (low tide) in the channel is 6.4 meters, not 7.6; minimum depth in the anchorage is 12.5 meters. At 11m wide and being taller than it is wide, if it's fully submerged in these waters it's because it's been completely destroyed (my hope, naturally).
@andersjjensen
@andersjjensen 24 күн бұрын
They only tend to roll over in deep water. Many ofl the ships at Perl Harbour were somewhat upright because they rolled back once they started touching the bottom. A ship has to go down pretty much perfectly sideways, or rolled further over than 90 degrees, for that not to happen to some extend. Since these were likely M58 ATACMS hits, I'd imagine the ship sunk somewhat straight, as they come down almost vertically, and have a penetrating warhead that can be set to delayed detonation. Modern corvettes are aluminium constructions, and the M58 warhead can penetrate several meters of concrete, so it's pretty likely they simply blew out the bottom of the ship.
@micahm5093
@micahm5093 24 күн бұрын
@@andersjjensen So they're taller than they are wide and wouldn't likely roll on sinking, making it even less likely that they're sitting there under water that shallow, unless they're completely destroyed (entirely possible, considering the cargo of the missile ship)... One hopes they're completely destroyed.
@Neklar
@Neklar 20 күн бұрын
Wither way it's constructively destroyed. If recovered it'll be over a year being rebuild or scrapped. Good job 😊
@skyhigh6
@skyhigh6 25 күн бұрын
Russia has admitted the ship was stunk
@hardtackbeans9790
@hardtackbeans9790 25 күн бұрын
There is a lack of an oil slick & turbidity. Flotsam will be coming up for days even with a small ship. I might suggest it was hit at mooring & managed to get underway after the attack. Sinking some place else. Or, it got underway just before the attack & the missiles guidance was altered to strike it.
@allydea
@allydea 25 күн бұрын
Or, and just hear me out, it wasn't hit at all. I know, it's crazy, but just consider it for 1 second.
@Sameoldsongdance
@Sameoldsongdance 25 күн бұрын
@@allydea That is a possibility. But then why the rescue ships & recovery crane? I think it is very likely something was hit. They rarely miss but a ship leaving just before the strike isn't impossible.
@tracboy80
@tracboy80 25 күн бұрын
​@@allydeathen why the rescue ships? Cope harder
@allydea
@allydea 25 күн бұрын
@@tracboy80 Because they are always there? That's like asking: _why does a doctor exist when there is no sick person near him at this exact time?_ I will cope harder when there is something to cope about. But you, you should fantasize less.
@allydea
@allydea 25 күн бұрын
@@Sameoldsongdance Who knows? There may be plenty of routine reasons. But I would entertain the idea that "something" was hit. Even that a ship was hit. But to conclude that this particular ship was SUNK based on this "evidence" is a clear example of biased reasoning.
@Grahamgusbull
@Grahamgusbull 25 күн бұрын
👍🇬🇧🇺🇦
@mike4480
@mike4480 25 күн бұрын
I can’t understand how clean com ments get , why ?
@henrywilliam8506
@henrywilliam8506 25 күн бұрын
You may find that the Tsiklon has been reassigned to the DJL flotilla.
@getrekt572
@getrekt572 25 күн бұрын
Russia's occupying Crimea for it's warm underwater port
@kaltesbier4846
@kaltesbier4846 25 күн бұрын
Maybe im crazy but, at 5:59 it looks like a small ship is on front of the damaged Building. The ground look´s wet and scratched.
@widowspankie
@widowspankie 25 күн бұрын
Perhaps it’s worth considering the nature of these rescue ships compared to the available targets? There’s several of them and would that number really be required if it wasn’t the Karakurt that’s at the bottom of the harbor?
@davidjones6389
@davidjones6389 25 күн бұрын
My Locker is Full!
@robertmoyse4414
@robertmoyse4414 25 күн бұрын
Good old octopus face - fine chap.
@jonathanwebb8307
@jonathanwebb8307 24 күн бұрын
Glory to Ukraine! Слава Україні!
@jonno27
@jonno27 24 күн бұрын
The actual depth of the harbour is probably a lot less than is shown on pre war maps due to the Black Sea ex fleet now filling it in.
@peterlaurie1247
@peterlaurie1247 24 күн бұрын
Have to wait for a new 'Drain the Ocean' series for confirmation.
@cyruslupercal9493
@cyruslupercal9493 25 күн бұрын
They hid it under water.
@sigorolo
@sigorolo 25 күн бұрын
CIT team claim that they have a closeup image which confirms that Tsiklon is sunk.
@suchomimus9921
@suchomimus9921 25 күн бұрын
CIT?
@DarkestAlice
@DarkestAlice 25 күн бұрын
@@suchomimus9921 Perhaps sigorolo means the Russian Conflict Intelligence Team (OSINT and HUMINT; an "undesirable organisation" founded by Ruslan Leviev, who for some time now has been given war update reports on Maxim Katz's YT channel on Sundays). CIT covered the Rostov-below-Don and other hits on the BS Fleet. Unfortunately, I have no Telegram - they have a channel there, I believe. 🇺🇦 Слава партизанам! 🇺🇦
@DarkestAlice
@DarkestAlice 25 күн бұрын
@@suchomimus9921 ...perhaps that was what sigorolo suggested.
@DarkestAlice
@DarkestAlice 25 күн бұрын
@@suchomimus9921 okay... last try, as my messages keep being converted into not being seen (just like they were trained by Monty P): onflict ntelligence eam.
@DarkestAlice
@DarkestAlice 25 күн бұрын
@@suchomimus9921 They worked together with Bellingcat on the MH17 and did a lot of good work in bringing war crimes and cancelled persons to the wider attention
@herbparker685
@herbparker685 25 күн бұрын
Only the Dolphins know
@davetweens7687
@davetweens7687 24 күн бұрын
Sevastopol is the first multistorey naval base
@Vaal12
@Vaal12 20 күн бұрын
👌👌👌
@alesmv
@alesmv 24 күн бұрын
👏👏👏
@soyyo85
@soyyo85 24 күн бұрын
Слава Україні та її воінам...
@paulneeds
@paulneeds 24 күн бұрын
Thanks for your update - always interesting! But on this one… why have you changed your pronunciation of ‘Sevastapol’? Is the new way more correct?
@kevinmullner4280
@kevinmullner4280 24 күн бұрын
Great coverage as always, Jack. Hopefully there will be a possibility mentioning the ruZZian Hit TV Show soon... ;-)
@mmmdesignllc
@mmmdesignllc 24 күн бұрын
in the sat. picture of the 88M rescue vessel. Is there a horizontal stream of "Oil" to the right?
@petermach8635
@petermach8635 25 күн бұрын
Not to forget that the boat might have sunk on it's beam, a measurement that's generally less than the height.
@bfs007a
@bfs007a 24 күн бұрын
Note that it might, and likely is, lying on its side, given its hull shape.
@nodularification
@nodularification 24 күн бұрын
The published harbor depth would be the minimum so it could be much deeper in some areas.
@joblo341
@joblo341 24 күн бұрын
Suggestion: when sharing pictures/maps all in russian/Ukrainian, please consider added a least a few translated text labels That is interesting, I thought the russians had moved the floating crane to Novorosysk. Or it was a different crane that they used to load cruise missiles into ships and subs. Keep up the good work.
@andersjjensen
@andersjjensen 24 күн бұрын
Every sizable harbour has multiple floating cranes.
@zahimiibrahim3602
@zahimiibrahim3602 24 күн бұрын
If it sank in shallow water I'd expect the outline of the ship should be visble even if completely submerged. Possible it was damaged but managed to relocate under its own power or towed.
@andersjjensen
@andersjjensen 24 күн бұрын
That water did look rather alge green. If the "soup" gets thick enough 1-2 meters is enough to reduce visibility to zero. I've had the displeasure of diving in such conditions.
@glennquagmire1747
@glennquagmire1747 24 күн бұрын
Dr Zoidberg says oh look im a home owner now 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@d.l.d.l.8140
@d.l.d.l.8140 24 күн бұрын
🇺🇦 Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦. ✌🏼
@SpencerCokely
@SpencerCokely 25 күн бұрын
Upgraded to submarine class.
@pburgvenom
@pburgvenom 25 күн бұрын
puck footin
@rbir2653
@rbir2653 25 күн бұрын
People saw it and reported more than likely
@albertroberts5929
@albertroberts5929 24 күн бұрын
Not possible the height to the top of the bow is around 10m and that doesn't include any of the superstructure it also has an 11m beam so even on its side it would stull be visible.
@NewMusicWeekly
@NewMusicWeekly 25 күн бұрын
Wow those satellite images at the start are the clearest I've ever seen. Pity the after-strike image at 0:28 has the watermark covering where the possibly-sunk ship was berthed.
@suchomimus9921
@suchomimus9921 25 күн бұрын
yes, the worst possible place for the watermark
@virtual2152
@virtual2152 24 күн бұрын
Ruzzia gained another Kilo sub at Novo, by painting it on the dock.
@Pandles639
@Pandles639 25 күн бұрын
I dare say it’s not at full height either, after being done by ATACMS. It’s probably burned to….. a state of melted.
@brucebaxter6923
@brucebaxter6923 25 күн бұрын
What’s the dark shadow near the break water?
@Van_frederick
@Van_frederick 24 күн бұрын
no more ships to launch cruise missiles from in black sea fleet
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