Update When? War Thunder's Success , Historical Match Making

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Dawg IV Life

Dawg IV Life

Күн бұрын

In this War Thunder Video we talk about the issues with War Thunder that have been brought up in the last month as we prepare for the upcoming update seek and destroy.
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About: Video about topics that the War Thunder community has been talking about.
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0:00 Where is the Update?
0:56 Why does Gaijin only focus on Top tier?
2:56 Why War Thunder is successful and other games aren't
6:55 Historical Match Making in War Thunder?
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@n1coR
@n1coR 9 күн бұрын
Why is Gaijin focusing more on Top Tier? -> more players -> more money -> more updates.
@JaronRoush
@JaronRoush 9 күн бұрын
Simple.
@ww2planes_810
@ww2planes_810 8 күн бұрын
Not as if there's an entire 3 major war eras before top tier that have been abandoned. That's not including naval, World War, etc
@Roguecjb
@Roguecjb 8 күн бұрын
The newer stuff is cooler for more people and we already spent a good portion of our time in the lower tiers just to get to the top, it's really not that complicated. I play mostly top tier now and I'll go back to 5.3-6.7 every now and then. They do also add lower tier stuff even though the updates tend not to focus on them so it's not like they're abandoned.
@ww2planes_810
@ww2planes_810 8 күн бұрын
@Roguecjb But not everyone is top tier nor does everyone have every tech tree up to top tier. If they're focusing just on the old timers (which they clearly aren't. They just keep adding top tier premiums), they wouldn't make any new players incentived to play. There's also a MASSIVE difference in quality between the old and new stuff, much less the maps and game modes. The game really needs an overhaul
@n1coR
@n1coR 8 күн бұрын
@@ww2planes_810 I think most of the players start playing to game to reach top tier, very few come to warthunder for the low/mid tier experience.
@House_of_Schmidt
@House_of_Schmidt 9 күн бұрын
The newer vehicles are just more relatable to people than the WW2 stuff. Also the WW2 stuff has been overplayed a lot. The unfortunately part is that the whole game is really designed around WW2 and Korean war vehicles. The game modes do not work well with newer vehicles at all. They're clearly trying to make a square peg fit in a round hole. I wish they would come up with some newer game modes for the newer vehicles.
@michaelvigil5321
@michaelvigil5321 2 күн бұрын
The WW2 stuff isn't overplayed tho... most vehicles like 10.0 and below are usually either completely new designs or major upgrades from their first designs. You know what's overplayed? The 10th abrams in the game which only slightly differs with each iteration. Not only that but the Abrams pretty much feels like every other country's top tier vehicle of which the only stand outs are T tanks, Chally 2, and Ariete. And how many T tanks are there now?😂 you get your pick of pretty much a T-64 (T-72's and T90's) or you get your T-80s all of which feel exactly the same. It's not even necessarily Gaijin being lazy, that's just what the modern battlefield looks like, every country made "the perfect tank" 40 years ago. Argument could be made that adding the sherman to every country and then some is why WW2 is overplayed but I WILL blame Gaijin's laziness on that because there are so many other vehicles they could add because it was such an experimental time before everyone knew how to make the perfect tank, it just costs more to add a new model so we don't get that, we get shermans and we get top tier clones.
@rodneycook3674
@rodneycook3674 9 күн бұрын
Appreciate you not uploading a video every five minutes like other creators. Good video. 👍
@Alextz_Gr
@Alextz_Gr 8 күн бұрын
Matawg is just uploading to upload, and hes just yapping and spreading misinformation
@vincea1830
@vincea1830 8 күн бұрын
Thing is, the game modes are playable in mid-low tier and are relatively balanced all things considered. At least player skill can carry the match regardless of how your team does. Top tier is straight up not fun for Air RB. This next update will make it even less fun. 16v16 matches take more time to takeoff and fly into combat than acrually playing the game. It has become a mindless point and click adventure game where 80% of your time is spent waiting for a new match, waiting to see anything and finally waiting for your missile to either hit/miss the target. Player skill ceiling is so damn low that if you're facing more than 3 people at once, you might as well land and leave or suicide. For ground RB, you just always have to expect your tank to explode to some guided bomb/missile and pray that hitting ammo on a T-series tank will actually explode like it does for every other MBT in game. My point is: i hope they redirect their focus towards making top tier fun to play, as opposed to releasing infinite BR's worth of new shit.
@PeekCandy
@PeekCandy 8 күн бұрын
Having just unlocked top tier Germany over the past couple months I can say that the game at 10.3 to 11.7 is almost entirely different from the earlier stuff. Especially 11.3 and up. It is far less forgiving and everything moves much much faster. You have to be much smarter. When I do go back and play say 3.3 to 6.7 I thoroughly enjoy myself but I go back to top tier and have a hard time. You get lazy in mid tier quickly.
@sgtj.peldridge4567
@sgtj.peldridge4567 9 күн бұрын
2:39 that made no sense 😂 "one day you have F-14 tomcats then the next you have fox 3s" the F-14 had fox 3s on realesse great video tho
@DawgIVLife
@DawgIVLife 9 күн бұрын
Yea I should have said you have Aim-120s. But the Aim-54 is still the first ones ever added.
@Lexus-fo3ey
@Lexus-fo3ey 9 күн бұрын
Phoenixes arent typical fox 3s as they are more for bomber intercept missions and not for killing fighter
@ICECAPPEDSKY
@ICECAPPEDSKY 8 күн бұрын
F14 aim-54A was never implemented realistically in game because it irl was a pseudo fox-3 If you lost lock before the missile was in pitbull range it would just stop tracking anything and die. The AIM-54C was the first Fox-3 in the sense you could immediately lose lock on launch and it would continue flying and lock anything it comes into range of. Gaijin made the AIM-54A act like the C either because they didn’t know or it would’ve been worthless.
@ExploringSitkaAlaskausin-wj4wu
@ExploringSitkaAlaskausin-wj4wu 9 күн бұрын
War Thunder needs a dedicated 1939-1945 WWII Historical tank mode.
@DawgIVLife
@DawgIVLife 9 күн бұрын
Soon as you can figure out where Sweden France China and Israel should slot into that time period maybe it could happen.
@nevik2506
@nevik2506 8 күн бұрын
What tanks did China have in ww2? How many tank battles did the engage in?
@robbie9763
@robbie9763 8 күн бұрын
​@@nevik2506hes talking tank wise
@odyssey3288
@odyssey3288 8 күн бұрын
@@DawgIVLife just dont put them in Historical tank mode. Or what they are doing in tank sim right now. but with human balance BR and match making.
@boat5138441
@boat5138441 8 күн бұрын
@@nevik2506 Panzer 1 during Battle of Nanking
@fredtehbinman
@fredtehbinman 8 күн бұрын
what sensetivity and dpi do you use, different for air and ground? your aim is amazing
@DawgIVLife
@DawgIVLife 8 күн бұрын
In game I haven’t touched any sensitivity settings but my mouse is set to 800dpi
@jthablaidd
@jthablaidd 8 күн бұрын
IMO BR matchmaking is far more balanced than year/era matchmaking Some tanks are gonna be objectively overpowered and some will be useless
@its-mikey3654
@its-mikey3654 9 күн бұрын
I don’t even think it has to be World War II versus Cold War just needs to be separated from conventional point and shoot versus ATGMs and laser Range Finder. This way Sweden doesn’t get screwed. And obviously discretion can be taken depending on vehicle.
@DawgIVLife
@DawgIVLife 9 күн бұрын
They pretty much already do that unless it’s something trash like a ratel 20 or a type 60ATM ATGM vehicles are mainly 8.3+
@its-mikey3654
@its-mikey3654 9 күн бұрын
@@DawgIVLife You are right. They do a pretty good job of that.
@raptorx3686
@raptorx3686 9 күн бұрын
What Do you use to record your videos man?
@DawgIVLife
@DawgIVLife 9 күн бұрын
Depends if I want to record live it’s OBS studios, if it’s like this video where it’s clips of kills it’s nvidia shadow play that automatically records gameplay and saves it.
@raptorx3686
@raptorx3686 9 күн бұрын
@@DawgIVLife ok thanks!
@mads.m1213
@mads.m1213 9 күн бұрын
Immersion in Wt when my Tiger II was hit by an ATGM Nuh. And bro that was originally a WW2 Game
@DawgIVLife
@DawgIVLife 9 күн бұрын
The mig 15 and Sabre were in the game already it was never just a WW2 game even in 2013
@TheToppestGee
@TheToppestGee 8 күн бұрын
@@DawgIVLifeyeah but still you shouldn’t have to fight Cold War vehicles in ww2 stuff
@theliteralworst9416
@theliteralworst9416 8 күн бұрын
@@TheToppestGeeliterally not true. If your argument is based on immersion Stuff like the t-34 85 jumbo 76 and is2 was seeing stuff like the m48 and t-54 in Korea, maybe Germany shouldn’t have lost a war and they’d be able to participate in the military industrial complex so they’d be able to fight in a conflict after ww2. And if it’s a balance argument then the “cold war” era vehicles you’re seeing play nothing like late Cold War era tanks and have more in common with ww2 gameplay. They just have shells that actually make fighting those heavy tanks bearable
@mads.m1213
@mads.m1213 8 күн бұрын
Its the Design idea. Is 3/4 ok m41 m109 or Wiesel not ok
@sinisterisrandom8537
@sinisterisrandom8537 8 күн бұрын
This is the problem. They pushed everyone who loved the older technology. To the point that most are suggesting mostly the new stuff. So we became the minority. While the modernists became the majority. Besides that, I would disagree with your statement about immersion. Immersion keeps you entranced and focused on the battle. It also makes you enjoy or get annoyed about it even more. Without immersion, battles become stale. Instead of being concerned about the tank and the crew, your mentality becomes "Doesn't matter if it dies or not" It had led to those players who left once they died. Now Semi-Historical is what Gaijin should focus more on for RB and AB. Just not in Sim too often. With dialogue invoking this confusion, concern, etc. Since they never fought it for the first time however over time they can identify it.
@SoullessNazzerin
@SoullessNazzerin 8 күн бұрын
The Ystervark is even 4.0 btw
@ILikeTuwtles
@ILikeTuwtles 7 күн бұрын
The problem is that Gaijin hasn’t found a medium between balance and realism. They won’t buff tanks that are outclassed at their BR because of lack of historical evidence for the buff but they won’t reduce the BRs either. Makes no sense.
@hav3nWT
@hav3nWT 6 күн бұрын
Rank 3,4 and 5 are the majority IMO. Or at least 40% of players at least. Queue times would show this. Top tier just has the most green fields for content.
@Superior-condor.
@Superior-condor. 8 күн бұрын
This was why I quit the game, after the couple of updates when Literally all the enemy teams were either captured tanks/lend leases vs super powers it made literally zero sense like I get that, lend leases was accurate it's WW2 BUT why do I have to have soviet's on my team while Sweden have the exact same tank with the exact sounding engine? Is beyond me💀
@thebeardedghostrider7127
@thebeardedghostrider7127 8 күн бұрын
The pbv 301 tank is at 2.3 br but it’s from the Cold War
@Vollpfosten
@Vollpfosten 8 күн бұрын
Phly said ww2 tech, not exact time
@LawAdNauseam
@LawAdNauseam 8 күн бұрын
It would probably take two seconds for gaijin to make a game mode that capped at 7.0 7-3 and maybe had a little bit wider of a range between BRs while staying under that 7 ish area. It wouldn’t be too hard to make a mostly wwII mode and it doesn’t have to be implemented into the normal ground RB. WWII RB
@samitcouldbe1681
@samitcouldbe1681 8 күн бұрын
Historical matchmaking should come for a limited time event so the playerbase could see for themselves how bland and unbalanced it would be. Such a gamemode would effectively remove most minor nations from the game, condemn the lower BR Cold War vehicles (like the M109) to uselessness, and make the apex WW2 heavies like the King Tiger even more dominant than they already are.
@milanvnuk
@milanvnuk 8 күн бұрын
I do not agree with you,what is a lot in your opinion? I am playing top tier and it is not like ,they addnew vehicle and at the same day half of the players in the team have it already and it is spaded. Nope I met maybe 2, they will start to show up in 3-4 days when people grind it. Most of the people grind or buy brand new vehicle just because Gajin add it i to game mostly in OP version or if it hassomething new people can not play against it and some players are using this fact and time to bully others. Itis similiar to sealclubing on low tiers. The fact is there is no other game on the market like this, players have no other option if they like games like WT. The fact is players who have spent some money in this game wont change it just because they have spent money on it and see it as investion. I hear stories about how the game is going to die for the last 12 years,and nothing. So no,adding new and new vehicles is not something what keeps the game alive, it is just a way how to get easy money out of the comunity. Gaijin can focus on repairing of the game. And if people want historical MM, ok give it to them but in separate mode, like event. Or with diferent rewards. Like now the events are about to score 35k, but there can also be option to play special historical mod to obtain the vehicle. But I do not think the game is ready for absolute historical accuracy, because of maps,mods and how the MM works. But maybe some semi historical could be fine,like to not play civil wars MM, or with Tiger 1 in 2003 Niederland.
@SoullessNazzerin
@SoullessNazzerin 8 күн бұрын
for me it's a bit of both worlds, when I play air realistic I prefer playing top tier and jets, but for ground realistic my prefered era is WW2. So in that sense I'm honestly excited to see vehicles of both eras, it's just unfortunate that older vehicles tend to be neglected
@Warthunderspecialist1
@Warthunderspecialist1 8 күн бұрын
Ive heard it most likely will come Wednesday
@eevew223
@eevew223 8 күн бұрын
They need a br cap at 6.7 or 7.0 because tanks like the tiger 2 isn't get shit on all the time but doesn't brake everything like a ww2 mode were its tiger 2 vs shermans or shrink br so instead of being like changing it from a 1.0 br difference to a .7 br difference
@thybonheng1485
@thybonheng1485 9 күн бұрын
Tiger 2 vs M48 is kinda fun 💀🤦
@DawgIVLife
@DawgIVLife 9 күн бұрын
The M48 is always a funny one since it technically has the same Cupola weak spot as M60s but sometimes will not fuse APHE like the M60s. I enjoy them sometimes.
@vincentnitzsche8074
@vincentnitzsche8074 8 күн бұрын
5euro low Tier 75euro high Tier planes idk why.
@redned7771
@redned7771 8 күн бұрын
player base > why can't gaijin take their time and make sure game breaking bugs, incorrect stats/models and wrong FM make it to live server. also player base > why is gaijin taking so long to update the game.
@DawgIVLife
@DawgIVLife 8 күн бұрын
It’s crazy redned after the dev stream was over I was already getting DMs asking what i think would come in the update after this one
@redned7771
@redned7771 8 күн бұрын
@@DawgIVLife I feel a large part of this games success is it's update cycle. regular hype train which creates a lot of talk around the game and entices many players back. they do really well at capturing the zeitgeist and keeping the game in the forefront of peoples lives. everyone is always hyped for the teasers and the trailer the second they see the first devblog.
@misterragnar2521
@misterragnar2521 8 күн бұрын
dog if we do historical matchmaking it fucks over minor nations. No
@ICECAPPEDSKY
@ICECAPPEDSKY 8 күн бұрын
Plus it would be T32E1, IS-3, Tiger II’s vs PzIV H, M4A3 (76) and T34-85 lmao
@ICECAPPEDSKY
@ICECAPPEDSKY 8 күн бұрын
Or Swedish 2.0’s vs M60’s, T55’s and Chieftains
@karsten1993
@karsten1993 9 күн бұрын
what di d you say at 7:26 something ......tanks ? Personally i want historical matchmaking. Maybe one weekend a month or every x days but not the default at all. It should be br or something based. Make it optinal and non-default or time based. If they do just exclude smaller nations if they don't have tanks of that era. You wanna play a historic ww2 match go play nation that existed/participated, easy. But i don't see this being needed to make it more playable. For me i just don't want to see ColdWar tanks when playing WW2 tanks (like the R3's that are 1972+ etc...). Yet i can live with tanks that are too bad to be 8+ or something. They may be fine at that BR but style/design wise it still annoys me a lot. (but please give them a WW2 camoflage or skin) Otherwise nowadays anything 7+ is just gets annoying for me. Only specialized/meme/quirky tanks are worth playing if it is 8.0+ (like Wiesel etc.) I would want them to lower the odds of PostWar/ColdWar tanks to be down tiered. Similair would want them to lower the odds of WW2 tanks to be uptiered. (i don't play planes outside of TankRB maybe it would make sensethier too) That way lets just say 8.0 and higher tanks will meet more often. And tanks that are below 8.0 will face their BR more often. That could create a soft "gap" between the eras. Or they could just add 0.5 BR points to any tanks above 8.0 (example: 8.0 > 8.5). Or add some weight to the tank BR's (like AirRb but only for ColdWar tanks or 8-9 Br) And the biggest and easiest solution that would satisfy a lot of people. Just give us fun game modes and maps that are built for their timeline. I want just Rush from BF or Territory from RO2. If i get it i don't care about the rest.
@DawgIVLife
@DawgIVLife 9 күн бұрын
He wanted Boss tanks like the IS4M or the T29 to only be playable if you got enough score like CAS, but it would only be limited to like 1-2 players per match
@SCRA-TIC
@SCRA-TIC 9 күн бұрын
I enjoyed this video 👍 War Thunder is a video game. If people want a historical game they should find it somewhere else
@Biznatski
@Biznatski 8 күн бұрын
Unpopular Opinion, but i like it, its so much more rational and logical. You're gonna get hate because you're telling the truth. 🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@hugo2171
@hugo2171 8 күн бұрын
Bro CANNOT say sussessfull
@babyboijeremy
@babyboijeremy 8 күн бұрын
IM ALL IN FOR WW2 MATCHMAKING! If they want to mish mash everything else after, thats fine. If it was designed and released during WW2 then they should face each other. Its not even about realism, its about reducing the annoyance and allowing the player to feel like its a fair fight. The current rabbit gaijin is chasing will eventually be caught, there are only so many new things in the world. This is unsustainable they should pivot to fostering better game modes and making the game more fun to play to promote longevity. World of tanks is dieing and in these final years they've only increased monitization. This is the future of warthunder if they don't foster longevity. You know the ww2 vets will stick around, most of them have grinded several nations up to high tier and the go to lower tiers for the fun. After the wales have died because there aren't any more shinies the ww2 vets will remain. They should seperate the ww2 equipment for future of the game.
@Lancia_loaf
@Lancia_loaf 8 күн бұрын
People who want historical match making are the ones with skill issues and cant face the facts that it would be a stupid idea especially for the minor nations.
@BedCat1432
@BedCat1432 8 күн бұрын
Ehhhhh i dont think its a skill issue i would like to see historical match makeing but I also don't mind mixed battles im not the best player I admit but I don't mind mixed battles it can be fun I think people just want historical match makeing because they want more immersion I feel like gaijin could add a option to join queues for historical match makeing only but people who want mixed battles can still have that win for both parties imo
@Lancia_loaf
@Lancia_loaf 8 күн бұрын
@@BedCat1432 it would be a nice gamemode. if they do it like naval endurence it would be chill. but you relise alot of usa would be cas based?
@BedCat1432
@BedCat1432 8 күн бұрын
@@Lancia_loaf oh im well aware of the cas issue but then again im also the player that just says fuck it and says if you can't beat em join em but on a serious note gaijin needs to find a way to better balance cas because a single cap qnd a scout and you can bring out cas is kinda stupid
@TeamValkyrie2023
@TeamValkyrie2023 7 күн бұрын
Being that someone on here thought something i said was bullying unsubscribed. ✌️
@johnwalker7592
@johnwalker7592 9 күн бұрын
Gaijin is cashing out... Its gonna happen, they'll promise an update one day, that wont ever come... people will keep asking when update... and it will be radio silence. the servers will run for awhile after... then one day, the announcement will come. servers shutting down forever. gaijins owners have been acting hella sketchy for the last 4 years... just uninstall now stop giving them money. and move on. as soon as warthunder is gone, it will open up a vacuum and something can come along and finally replace it.. probably for the better too.
@ICECAPPEDSKY
@ICECAPPEDSKY 8 күн бұрын
I don’t know about that, there are many many vehicles (prototype or production) to add to the game and they can revitalize the game with innovative game modes. What gaijin is doing right now is spamming modern vehicles because that’s the easy money for the game. Once that calms down other avenues for the game will open up. Plus I find it very unlikely a new game could be made to replace war thunder (not for a very long time and not without being as bad of a grind or worse). If it could be attempted someone would have. If warthunder were to go down a massive blow to the Military gaming niche would be dealt. Plus I doubt gaijin would just shut down the only really successful game they’ve ever published or made.
@quimble2177
@quimble2177 9 күн бұрын
I don’t necessarily think the game needs “historical” match making, but at the very least they need to separate WWII and Cold War properly.
@DawgIVLife
@DawgIVLife 9 күн бұрын
The problem is you have vehicles that where made in the 1960+ that have the same characteristics of a vehicle from 1940s
@quimble2177
@quimble2177 9 күн бұрын
@@DawgIVLife aye, and you could possibly make an argument for some things, like M109’s. I suppose it’s less a WWII and Cold War+ thing and more….”conventional” round firing tanks and HEATFS and onwards firing tanks.
@SVPER43
@SVPER43 9 күн бұрын
​@@quimble2177 So the PT-76 still needs to face Leopard 1s because it has HEAT-FS... right?
@quimble2177
@quimble2177 9 күн бұрын
@@SVPER43 having played the 76 I don’t see why that’d be an issue. It’s paper thin, isn’t fast, but it’d just mean people have to play slightly different.
@SVPER43
@SVPER43 8 күн бұрын
@@quimble2177 So screw trying to balance vehicles, let's just make some of them borderline useless. Interesting point...
@rstebnicki
@rstebnicki 9 күн бұрын
Separation should be made! World War II has different dynamics. And I'm often bothered by the fact that when driving the T34 I have to fight against some weak vehicle from the 1960s. AAs are also often so low that they act as tank destroyers. In addition, heavy tanks and their armor advantage are non-existent, reloading speed is worse... You're talking nonsense and you don't know what you're talking about.
@DawgIVLife
@DawgIVLife 9 күн бұрын
Ah yes someone who wants heavy tanks to be impenetrable. The classic
@rstebnicki
@rstebnicki 9 күн бұрын
@@DawgIVLife WT is a game about tanks, heavy tanks cannot be balanced the same way as light or medium tanks. Here, KD at level 1.0 should not be the main determinant.
@dylansedgwick2932
@dylansedgwick2932 9 күн бұрын
​@rstebnicki if you want to get into it, war thunder was originally just a plane game
@rstebnicki
@rstebnicki 9 күн бұрын
@@dylansedgwick2932 beed there, done that. Acc created 2012.
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