Upgrading Our Van's Weight From 3500kg To 4230kg

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6 ай бұрын

After nearly 12 months of upgrading the van's full suspension and getting it fitted with new wheels, we finally are at the point where we have an upgraded weight from 3500kg to 4230kg this was a long process but we stuck in there and finally succeeded getting the maximum weight we could
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@UrbanVanlife 6 ай бұрын

If you have not seen our front suspension upgrade video watch it here kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hqhhesmZqLbHo6c.html

@TheCraftyBlindersvanlife 6 ай бұрын

Cracking video Emma and Neil thank for the plug hopefully see you two soon 😬👍

@UrbanVanlife 6 ай бұрын

You have a great technical video mate and any one thinking of doing this needs to watch it for sure

@happyglampers9053 Ай бұрын

Great vid Neil and Emma, thank you. We uplated ours a while back to 4050kg by fitting the air bags to the rear. Spoken to Sam at one of the events and he’s def the man for suspension mods. The guys at Rogue Alloys are experts and the best. 💯 customer focused family business. We let them know what we have and they recommended the 17’’ Warlord’s. The BFG tyres are rated at 1360kg too, so we have room to swap the front suspension over at a future point. As you’ve already said, the BFG tyres are fairly quiet on the road with no road noise, winner winner👌

@George_the_VW_Crafter 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for a great video, great info. Looking forward to seeing the next one. Thanks Drew

@UrbanVanlife 6 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it, thanks Drew 😃

@LeisureBit 6 ай бұрын

Pleased you got it sorted in the end - great advice to get the van weighed, on the to do list - Happy New Year to you both, all the best for 2024. David 👍

@UrbanVanlife 5 ай бұрын

Thanks, you too!

@neillh 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing another great video 👍

@UrbanVanlife 6 ай бұрын

Cheers buddy and happy new year to you

@neilchilds7555 13 күн бұрын

Hi guys I wondered have you thought about doing a video on what paper work you need and how to fill it out so others can plate up or plate down their vehicle keep up the good work

@UrbanVanlife 13 күн бұрын

Hi all the paper work was done by the engineer at the weight company which we then sent off to the DVLA

@vanlifeeats 6 ай бұрын

And yeah... the wheels are beauts!!! ❤

@UrbanVanlife 6 ай бұрын

They sure are sexy

@Ritarelay 6 ай бұрын

Yay finally sorted! So pleased for you. But what a ballache … hoping it feels better to drive now too.

@UrbanVanlife 6 ай бұрын

Yes there’s a definite noticeable improvement!

@BRM101 6 ай бұрын

Nicely done Neil 👍

@UrbanVanlife 6 ай бұрын

Thanks ☺️

@suepaulbrown9512 6 ай бұрын

Can't wait to see you two out on the road in 2024! 🥰

@UrbanVanlife 6 ай бұрын

It’s been a long time coming . We need sun with mr and mrs brown

@suepaulbrown9512 6 ай бұрын

@@UrbanVanlife we will make it happen xx

@johnhbuiltnotbought4924 6 ай бұрын

Hi all looking good 👍 best of luck

@UrbanVanlife 6 ай бұрын

Thank you so much 🙂

@markhughes1252 6 ай бұрын

Great job both as always, the hughesys ❤

@UrbanVanlife 6 ай бұрын

Thanks so much!

@magicalmartinable 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for the great end video, I’ve been following and done all the bits as you’ve done them (with about a 2 month lag) Had to pass my C1 in the process but 100% worth it now my new weight plate is heading back to me. Just for the info, I’ve used VWE and they have been amazing. I left my original MERC still rims on with the BFGS and they are okay for the upgrade. I’ve raptured mine in black (a good cost saving exercise) with a reasonable finish. For those wanting to try, I did this on my own with minimal help on the street out the front of my house. Steep learning curve but can be done with some patience and taking your time. Mines a 313 LWB sprinter and after conversion and a family of five in the weight change was 100% needed. No more stress about getting pulled! Thanks again!

@vanlifeeats 6 ай бұрын

Great video and legendary advice! I'm pretty sure we are overweight 🙈🙈 Our cupboards are overloaded with every flour, oil, sauce, ingredient you can imagine!

@UrbanVanlife 6 ай бұрын

Hahahaha but surly it’s all needed Tho . To be honest mate I thought we would be heavier . You may get a shock if you get weighed

@robertcanning1888 6 ай бұрын

Well done. Can a get a cutting off that money tree lol. Stunning selection of wheels in rogue.

@UrbanVanlife 5 ай бұрын

No money tree sorry, wish we did have just a lot of work to pay for things unfortunately!

@robertcanning1888 5 ай бұрын

@@UrbanVanlife A know mate just joking. If only youre trolls realised. Hope youre all well xx

@jeffshaw4553 6 ай бұрын

This is the thing with all the different weights when we was looking at different motor homes the ones under 3.5 tonne wasn’t giving us much pay load,so we went for the higher end of scale being a lorry driver for a living we wasn’t limited to weight, especially while we taking the 2 kids away with us thinking of down sizing in few years as not many more years kids are going to what to come away now as they 13 & 15 then we gonna get motor home just for me and wife we’ll done guys getting it updated sounds a headache but you done it 👍🏽👍🏽

@UrbanVanlife 5 ай бұрын

We got there in the end! Definitely a good idea going bigger for a family that’s for sure, we sometimes struggle in the van with just us two and the puppers!

@denisecafferky2248 6 ай бұрын

Great job. Those wheels tho, wow 🎉

@UrbanVanlife 6 ай бұрын

Thank you 🤗

@bettyourcampervan 6 ай бұрын

Another ace video sir 🎩

@UrbanVanlife 6 ай бұрын

Thanks 🤩

@campervancodgers124 6 ай бұрын

Fab video as per usual, easy to understand for noobs like us ❤

@UrbanVanlife 6 ай бұрын

Thanks guys hope you are both having lots of fun 🤩

@campervancodgers124 6 ай бұрын

@UrbanVanlife at home waiting now , MOT due next week and the clutch is playing up ,, oh the joys 😂

@denisscott3073 6 ай бұрын

Hi Emma and Neil 👋 just us 2saying hi 👋 great video update and information. 👍den and sue 👍 👍👍🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🚌🚌🚌

@UrbanVanlife 6 ай бұрын

Hi to both of you, hope you are both well 😃😃

@DestinationDestiny-ot5pc 6 ай бұрын

Great video guys and thanks for the info. I did all mine recently up to 3900kg unfortunately via VWE who were incredibly helpful and went beyond the call of duty to help. Unfortunately I now have to save for springs and further upgraded alloys ( I have the Warlords from Elite ) to get from 3900 - 4230kg. But great post nonetheless and much appreciated

@UrbanVanlife 5 ай бұрын

Know your pain on that one, that’s basically what happened to us! Good luck with your future upgrades!!

@marcusvarney4662 6 ай бұрын

Think of all those additional lights you can fit now 😂😂

@UrbanVanlife 6 ай бұрын

Ohhhh I’m allready thinking how to convince Emma we need them

@SH-vb5ph 6 ай бұрын

Or just buy a 4.6t / 5.0t / 5.5t van to start with (lots more payload even compared to the upgrade method and the floorpans are 50% thicker too). Getting stopped abroad is much more likely, on average our vans experience a control / stop check every fifth run out of the UK. It’s no big deal, usually a quick documents check. Don’t think you’ll never get stopped in the UK either, WIMs sensors in the road carriageways can individually weigh the six axles on a truck doing 56mph, plus DVSA have publicly stated they are focusing more on enforcement with vans and trailers.

@UrbanVanlife 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the info sure it will help someone out on here but for us this was the option we went with as we are happy with the size of the van we just went over on weight when building which can happen

@vandox21 6 ай бұрын

Great vlog as usual guys 👍🏻 when weighing the van does that include items that have been packed ie clothes, paddle boards, general stuff or is that the van minus the above with just the units and shower etc ?

@UrbanVanlife 6 ай бұрын

Yes the van was fully loaded when we had her weighed as we wanted to get a proper measurement for when we where on the road

@897aa33 6 ай бұрын

Correct me if I am wrong. For legality, the weight plate should be fitted into a none removable part of the van (side of the van pillar) and should be fitted by the certified garage so one of the screw comes with little red stamp. Otherwise police might question .... ? Great videos 👍👍👍

@UrbanVanlife 6 ай бұрын

I’d have to correct you here reguarding our van mate . We put the weight plate exactly where the old one use to be . As far as I know there are no laws specifying where . And I don’t think the police have a clue on laws even if there was one to be honest . Who knows but a garage can’t give you a weight plate it has to be a weight engineer company . I guess it’s like a mot as long as you have one then you’re covered . But good question tho man

@DestinationDestiny-ot5pc 6 ай бұрын

You are correct Neil. Just done mine to 3900 via VWE and plate just gets stuck over the existing one.

@charliegibbo 6 ай бұрын

nice wheels

@UrbanVanlife 5 ай бұрын

Thanks

@andrewlisajohn 6 ай бұрын

If you took all the lights of you would save 1000kg🤣

@UrbanVanlife 6 ай бұрын

But now we can fit more lights 🤪🤪

@rayletaxi 6 ай бұрын

I was going to say that, glad I'm not the only one 😂

@1980jamesm 5 ай бұрын

Where did you get the mercedes front sping?

@brianparker5228 6 ай бұрын

Funny you mentioned going on a diet I was thinking early in the video that Emma had lost weight, very noticeable in her face ???

@UrbanVanlife 5 ай бұрын

No weight loss as yet but it will happen

@grahamunderwood9353 6 ай бұрын

can fit bigger lights now 😂😂😂

@UrbanVanlife 6 ай бұрын

You = hero status

@raykeogh1972 6 ай бұрын

Great video , this is one of my biggest worries about my motorhome, `can I ask where you got it weighed was it in Liverpool? if so I will get my weight checked. Ive looked around Liverpool to see where I can get it done but must not be very good at research because I can't fine one. Ive wanted to up grade my motorhome for about 3 years now being scared to go abroad for the reasons you demonstrated. Thanks for sharing Ray K UK YNWA.

@UrbanVanlife 6 ай бұрын

We actually got the van weighed in Widnes, the place is called Calstat hope this helps!

@leonblanchflower5448 6 ай бұрын

Hi guys, great news about the van weight upgrade. Did you have to upgrade the brake components to compensate for the weight increase?

@UrbanVanlife 6 ай бұрын

Hi no we haven’t had to change the breaks, all the changes we had to do have been shown in the video, hope this helps

@mitch2k72k72k7 5 ай бұрын

I have a sprinter and looking to do these mods to it. Do you have to do the air upgrade? Also do you have any part numbers for the springs and dampers?

@UrbanVanlife 5 ай бұрын

The dampers are in previous videos . But for the right spring you’ll need to go watch sams video he will tell you all the changes and the exact new numbers you need

@ifell3 6 ай бұрын

At least the bolts where loose the second time around. 😅

@UrbanVanlife 6 ай бұрын

Yer that was a bonus . Altho if you follow Sam crafty blinders he had a lot of bolts snap when he took them back out the second time

@ifell3 6 ай бұрын

@@UrbanVanlife are they not torque to yield, replacement after each tightening. Been wanting to build a coil heating thing for ages.

@G-InThe-V 6 ай бұрын

Hi mate nice wheels ive just purchased some from rogue myself. Have you had your van mapped im starting to find mine a bit sluggish. Wondering if youve any vids on that. Cheers

@UrbanVanlife 6 ай бұрын

No sorry we haven’t had the van mapped, we know people who have but it’s worth looking into it properly before you do as it can have affects on your insurance if you don’t declare the change

@G-InThe-V 5 ай бұрын

@@UrbanVanlife cheers Neil I've already done it I couldn't handle the lag 😅. I got the chip that can be removed it took only 10 minutes to fit and it's made a nice difference I feel its back to where it was before I put a Ton of weight in it 😀

@ThomasDevOnline 6 ай бұрын

The problem I've been told that these type of tires are not made for vans though soley for off road 4X4 or Defenders etc.. I was speaking someone about putting Rogue Alloy on my crafter and they said they don't drive well in snow, they don't do well in the wet as they slip, they're loud when driving in the cab compared to other tired and large... As a VanLife Channel it would be good for you to give a full comprehensive review on the top 5 tires out there for people like myself struggling to decide. This way with your 43.9K subscribers you can not only offer this one manufacture, but many others that may suit other peoples budgets.

@UrbanVanlife 6 ай бұрын

Hi, thanks for your insight but to answer your comment we have chosen these tyres due their reliability in wet, snow, ice and mud conditions, we also do not need to do any more research as plenty of our friends have them fitted to their vehicles, one such example is Alex Frood from mispronounced adventures as he has taken his K02 tyres and rogue alloy wheels to the ultimate extreme in the Artic for the past two years, if you watch Alex’s videos you will see just how reliable these tyres are. The reason we stick with Rogue is firstly because they are a home grown family run business, secondly their service and knowledge base has always been second to none and thirdly in our opinion they are the UK’s leading wheel and tyre experts and to be completely frank they are also extremely hard working and lovely people. As stated in the video we were never actually interested in these tyres before as we previously had general grabbers on the van but after a lot of conversations with not only Rogue but also the engineer from the company we up plated with these came out as the best fit for our van. Everyone’s needs for their vans are different so research done needs to be specific to those needs.

@ThomasDevOnline 6 ай бұрын

The problem is, I'm hearing mixed reviews and with you guys being KZfaqrs it makes you think if you're getting a discount on the product so that's why you say nice things! (Not necessarily a sponsorship & may not be the case.) So I guess as part of my research this is why I'm watching your videos and speaking to many other people at the same time. The tires themselves are very off-road looking which makes you wonder how off-road are you going to go in a crafter panel van to weigh up the cost etc.. I've been told Michelin have some of the best all year round heavy duty tires too and I like many others on here really do appreciate the feedback you've given, like many it's a big expense. @@UrbanVanlife

@paulhamlet804 6 ай бұрын

I fitted Michelin Agilis Cross Climate’s to my 4080kg rated Sprinter. These are 3 mountain peaks mud and snow tyres that have better fuel economy and noise ratings than the K02’s. I got the 121R/119 XL rated tyres as according to the MB manual the 115/113’s were not a recommended option. I stuck with the steel wheels as I for sure could not afford the increase in insurance premium that they would bring. Yes, you do have to tell the insurance company. The uprated GVW also has to be declared to your insurance company but this was a no cost alteration for me.

@lushalija695 4 ай бұрын

why you change for the second time front leaf spring?? I was going to buy the first one for my 3.5t Sprinter because I have see the first video. can you give the part number of the second one?

@UrbanVanlife 4 ай бұрын

Watch Sam’s video mate he gives all the reasons why and he gives all the right specks and numbers you need .

@Doesnotcare12 6 ай бұрын

Also, remember you probably are as good a driver as you think and will never harm anyone. How many numpties a day do you see driving like idiots that could crash into you, and then the investigation comes back getting you into 💩💩💩. Good video, guys, and never call me a fat b'stard again please, it's Christmas pounds.

@johntindals9715 5 ай бұрын

You should have put that weight plate on a fixed metal part of the body not a panel that can be removed other than that good video

@froggie316 6 ай бұрын

evening young sir

@UrbanVanlife 6 ай бұрын

That’s defo not me

@froggie316 6 ай бұрын

Young Ish

@Beverretriver 5 ай бұрын

Hi. How does this work with licence requirements for those who passed after 2017? Would this upgrade be C1 catagory?

@UrbanVanlife 5 ай бұрын

It would yes . You would need to sit a c1 test

@mrsiborg 6 ай бұрын

New viewer and by no means a mechanic but how would the extra weight affect the chassis? Love the wheels btw.

@UrbanVanlife 6 ай бұрын

Hi and welcome, we too aren’t mechanics, but everything we have put in place will not affect the chassis, the service we used to get up plated went into everything in detail on our particular van.

@mrsiborg 6 ай бұрын

Oh cool, thanks for the answer. Looking forward to more videos 😀

@user-ot3ny9ig3h 6 ай бұрын

great video again, quick question with the new upgrades and over 3.5t do you have granda driving licence section C1

@UrbanVanlife 6 ай бұрын

Neil has a full class one and a PSV license

@user-ot3ny9ig3h 6 ай бұрын

thats great, its one of the items motorhome sellers fail to highlight like the mean looking wheels @@UrbanVanlife

@aberdeendeltaforce Ай бұрын

What if you do all that but don’t get the plate, then have a crash, get weighed over 3.5t but prove you have carried out the necessary upgrades would the insurance company still be able to invalidate it? Asking because I’ve done all these upgrades 2 years ago but never bothered getting the plate and registering it with the DVLA?

@UrbanVanlife Ай бұрын

As far as we are aware you have to notify your insurance of any changes you make or they can invalidate it anyway because they will have insured your vehicle as a 3.5 tonne so can use it against you

@SimonWatson-nx1kt 6 ай бұрын

German plod like to sit on the side of the autobahn and pull uk plated vehicles that are sitting low, if you are over, you get a fine and impounded until you get someone to come and remove some weight ... and you can't just take it out! .... don't ask me how I know!! 🤫

@UrbanVanlife 6 ай бұрын

You’re not the first to mention this . It’s easy money for them I guess . The are like vultures

@colino2025 6 ай бұрын

Can i ask where you weighed your van i am struggling to find a public weighbridge near me.

@UrbanVanlife 6 ай бұрын

We went to Widnes to weigh the van, google Calsat and you should find it

@colino2025 6 ай бұрын

That's great thanks not too fat away cheers

@sarabooth-kilby6457 2 ай бұрын

Did you say you can up plate to 4000 without changing suspension? We've just had a conversion and are almost at 3.5, we're gutted and dont know what to do, not sure we can afford to do all the spring at the moment. Advice will be greatly appreciated please😃

@UrbanVanlife 2 ай бұрын

Best thing to do is get in touch with the weight services people and see what they suggest to do as each van is different and they have a lot more knowledge than us.

@sarabooth-kilby6457 2 ай бұрын

Do you have an email or website for them please, we really didn't think of this even as an issue when we first bought it😢

@qwertyasdof25 5 ай бұрын

And now if you’re staying in the UK you’re going to need a commercial recovery policy because all the normal ones (AA, RAC, GF) only cover you up to 3,500kg 😂

@UrbanVanlife 5 ай бұрын

Thanks it’s not commercial it’s private heavy goods and we are already sorted

@qwertyasdof25 5 ай бұрын

@@UrbanVanlife ok I’ll rephrase it, if GF/AA/RAC turn up on a standard policy and see it weighs over 3,500kg they will just walk away and tell you that you aren’t covered. I’m not just telling you, I’m letting anyone else reading the comments know:

@chrissayers76 23 күн бұрын

Can you tell me are those wheels 16inch or 17inch. Just about to order some myself

@UrbanVanlife 22 күн бұрын

17’s buddy

@scottsparky1 5 ай бұрын

Do you not have to upgrade the breaks to stop the extra weight

@UrbanVanlife 5 ай бұрын

no mate the breaks on these van are well capable of hadeling the weight , also if it wasnt they would have not allowed it after engineers report

@mattdobson1984 6 ай бұрын

What size wheels are those? Still 16" or did you go bigger?

@UrbanVanlife 6 ай бұрын

17s mate

@mattdobson1984 6 ай бұрын

@@UrbanVanlife do they do them 16" they are nice and I have literally put brand new michelin cross climets on my van before Christmas

@UrbanVanlife 6 ай бұрын

I think they do have a 16 the best thing to do would be contact rogue . There just nice people and also will be the best people to get the best wheel info off

@nirwin 6 ай бұрын

What does this mean about travelling to Europe? I don't know the full facts - but heard 3.5T was a standardised limit for tolls, and being over this means paying more in tolls? I could be wrong here...

@UrbanVanlife 5 ай бұрын

We aren’t sure but we will find out when we get there, as far as we are aware it goes off amount of axels

@CarpyChris1964 6 ай бұрын

Has it been worth the hassle, and is it a better drive now 👍🏻

@UrbanVanlife 6 ай бұрын

Yes and yes on both counts definitely worth it in the end!

@CarpyChris1964 6 ай бұрын

@@UrbanVanlife happy days m8

@tonydean1262 6 ай бұрын

Instead of me searching the net IL ask here first Is there anything on your driving licence to stop you going up in weight mines a 1981 licence

@UrbanVanlife 6 ай бұрын

The best thing to do is just ring up the dvla and see what they say . Hope this helps hear is the number 0300 790 6802

@tonydean1262 6 ай бұрын

@@UrbanVanlife got the answer just incase anyone else asks If you passed your test before January 1st 1997 If you’ve had your driver’s licence for more than a couple of decades, you may fall under what’s sometimes known as ‘grandfather rights’. In practice, this means a different set of rules apply for those passing before 1st January 1997 - because they received a category C1 licence alongside the standard category B. If this applies to you, you’ll be legal to drive a van with a GVW of up to 7,500kg, or up to a combined weight of 8,250kg if a trailer is included

@Motormad196 6 ай бұрын

Are those upgraded wheels and tyres heavier than your original ones?

@UrbanVanlife 6 ай бұрын

Yep they are but not by much!!!

@clivemillington8452 6 ай бұрын

Emma is looking Gooooooood 👍👍👍👌👌👌

@Bigchaser01327 6 ай бұрын

No brake upgrade

@UrbanVanlife 6 ай бұрын

The brakes are more than sufficient to stop the vehicle, don’t forget the engineer went through all the specs of the vehicle so they know exactly what was needed to be done