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Upgrading to 32GB RAM on a Dell XPS Special Edition - Saving Money

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Lloyd Summers

Lloyd Summers

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@erikksmith
@erikksmith 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. Great info, perfectly presented. Thanks!!
@jrwarner5465
@jrwarner5465 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks a lot!
@movdqa
@movdqa 4 жыл бұрын
I wish the XPS came in a Full Tower. This box seems a little tight for the best cooling.
@ComputerCurry
@ComputerCurry Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Going to help my dad upgrade his PC.
@postlucid
@postlucid 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your instructions! Helpful video and installed with no problems!
@mllestormmarvelicious3225
@mllestormmarvelicious3225 7 ай бұрын
I did it ! thanks to you !
@LordScrumpus
@LordScrumpus Жыл бұрын
I literally had a talk with a friend about this on discord, these recommendations are scaring me 😢
@LloydSummers
@LloydSummers Жыл бұрын
Ah don't let it scare you too much. If your important data is backed up - there is nothing you can break at that point you can't fix. Life is about exploration :) upgrading should be exciting and fun. And advice from friends is always a good idea. Ram is very easy to upgrade, hard drives are a bit harder as you need to copy the data over.
@georgehiotis
@georgehiotis 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. You helped me install some ram for my son. The only hitch we had was that we had to buy expensive DELL ram because we've heard stories where compatible non-Dell ram caused issues.
@RLAURENSHOP
@RLAURENSHOP 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same. So i got to buy the dell brand
@KeyBored101
@KeyBored101 2 жыл бұрын
This video is perfect for beginners
@foxxxxxi8814
@foxxxxxi8814 4 жыл бұрын
good info man , thanks!
@nathanfranks1476
@nathanfranks1476 3 ай бұрын
im finally upgrading the ram on my 8700 i bought in 2015 and I really appreciate the video. I also never noticed the watch battery sitting on the motherboard? (i think thats the motherboard - i know very little about computers). Does that ever need replace?
@williamjones4483
@williamjones4483 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a firm believer when upgrading memory to just buy NEW MATCHED memory modules from a single supplier such as Crucial or Samsung. I NEVER use the memory modules that came with the computer with any other modules, even if they have the same specs. I pull the old memory and store it somewhere for later use, making sure it is marked that it came out of that computer.
@terminatorsly
@terminatorsly 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the detailed breakdown. I'm not a computer whiz but your video made everything simple. One question for you, i have dell XPS 8930 and i'm thinking of upgrading to the new RTX 3080 and also getting a new power supply with 850 watts, my current card is RTX 2060. 3080 is longer and people pointed out that the top side exhaust fan will be obstructed by the swing out psu. It's a very compact case and i'm concerned about air circulation. Would it be too risky putting 3080 in this case and if i don't replace the fan will it over heat?
@RLAURENSHOP
@RLAURENSHOP 3 жыл бұрын
Brooo you are my salvation
@ScamSafeShiba
@ScamSafeShiba 6 ай бұрын
u have the inferior version of heatsink. we should do a handshake
@LloydSummers
@LloydSummers 6 ай бұрын
I'm hoping to replace it with water cooling over the next week or two :)
@LloydSummers
@LloydSummers 6 ай бұрын
The downside is I do find it gets too warm, and I strongly recommend upgrading the fan.
@janibeg3247
@janibeg3247 4 жыл бұрын
that does not look like the interior my xps 8930 but i wish i had watched this video before i added an additional 16 gb of ram
@nitram419
@nitram419 3 жыл бұрын
After you put the additional RAM in, did the reported speed stay at 2666MHz? Other people have tried putting additional 8MB RAM sticks into a Dell XPS desktop machine (to have 32MB in total) and they found that the speed would drop to around 2300MHz. What happened in your case?
@ItsRobert1
@ItsRobert1 3 жыл бұрын
By far the best installation videos. I have an old xps 8700 and would like to install to 32 GB. I just received 4 8GB sticks 1600. Do I have to install one at a time? Or can I just install them all at once?
@LloydSummers
@LloydSummers 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! You can do them all at once. If you have any problems turning the computer on after, then I try them one at a time :)
@ItsRobert1
@ItsRobert1 3 жыл бұрын
@@LloydSummers Ok thanks. I was wondering cause it’s an older system.
@Jay_Rule
@Jay_Rule 9 ай бұрын
Is there a RAM capacity per slot or can I put 32GB in DIMM 1 and 3 for a total of 64GB?
@LloydSummers
@LloydSummers 9 ай бұрын
Great question - I originally went with the i9-9900, which supports 4x32GB of RAM (yes two sticks would work great)
@Jay_Rule
@Jay_Rule 9 ай бұрын
Mine is Dell XPS 8930 i7-8700 so it's older tech@@LloydSummers
@rafaelguimaraes6797
@rafaelguimaraes6797 3 жыл бұрын
ADOREI SEU PAPEL EM: A BABÁ 2
@rfrancoi
@rfrancoi 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Sir, but how do you determine compatibility before you buy it?
@LloydSummers
@LloydSummers 2 жыл бұрын
The best way is the manufacturer will have specification sheets - they are determined primarily by the motherboard. In this case Dell reuses Asus motherboards and brands them as their own (I believe) so it is a tad harder to get the information on them If you aren't sure though, just copy the type of RAM the computer comes with!
@rfrancoi
@rfrancoi 2 жыл бұрын
@@LloydSummers Kewl, thank you.
@Jayman001
@Jayman001 4 жыл бұрын
I have XPS 8930 I ordered it with 16gb of ram then few months later ordered from Dell anothe16gb but I forgot to check if speeds were equal.
@BO_Riddle
@BO_Riddle 4 жыл бұрын
which is better 512 GB ssd or 256 GB ssd + 2 TB HHD assuming both are priced the same?
@dhoome1234ify
@dhoome1234ify 3 жыл бұрын
The ssd + hdd Because it gives you more storage.
@noobsaibot8199
@noobsaibot8199 3 жыл бұрын
Hey I just bought this exact computer except with an i7-6700k and a gtx 1080(super great tutorial by the way) I noticed you just have the default fan in there. Is that enough? Should there be any concern in my mind about overheating? The whole pc seems pretty restrictive for air flow.
@LloydSummers
@LloydSummers 3 жыл бұрын
It does! I just did another series of upgrades on it and cleaned out the fans, it’s holding up great, but I wouldn’t overclock it with the stock fan. I was super surprised to see they didn’t use a higher grade fan as I have an i9 in it,..
@noobsaibot8199
@noobsaibot8199 3 жыл бұрын
@@LloydSummers I hate to ask too many questions but I'm kinda new to building pcs. I got some good ram for a really good deal, but its actually clocked at 3200. I was hoping I could just stuff them all together to get 24 gigs total. Will I have to somehow down clock my ram if I want to do this ?
@LloydSummers
@LloydSummers 3 жыл бұрын
@@noobsaibot8199 it *may* work, it depends on the motherboard. It should downclock to the slowest ram chip you have. But today, anything above 2666, maaaay not work in a motherboard. But if it boots up & logs into windows, you should be good. RAM usually either works or doesn’t work. It sometimes fails intermittently but it’s rare
@paschoalt2964
@paschoalt2964 4 жыл бұрын
hi,i want to know the maximum size of a gpu that i can install on a xps 8930 and if i can replace the power supplie.can someone help me?
@robertclarkguitar
@robertclarkguitar 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Lloyd. I sold a brand new 8700 xps loaded in 2016 17....It was awesome but I wasnt using it so I sold it and the guy that bought it, gave me what I paid for it and gave me his XPS which looks identical but is older 2320 i5 with radeon 5760 I think OEM card...Anyway I've decided to start doing music production beginning i hope it will run the daw ok...Should it be ok? Also I'm not sure but i think its 8 gigs of ram 4 x 4 if I'm not mistaken so if that's how they came could I put 2 8s? Which I know may max it. Your help will be appreciated. I need this working in best shape before my Audio Interface comes next week. Thank you again.
@LloydSummers
@LloydSummers 4 жыл бұрын
Extra ram is definitely helpful with audio! Especially for really deep multi track stuff as it needs to hold high quality recordings in ram. The quantity and order of the ram is completely customizable, it’s more the total combined that matters (and their matching of types for speed). You should share some of the music :). Truth be told, I have seen my i5s struggle a bit with complex VSTis, so it can get a bit overwhelmed. But if that happens just kill Firefox / chrome and all that and give it less to think about on complex recordings.
@robertclarkguitar
@robertclarkguitar 4 жыл бұрын
@@LloydSummers Hello 👋 Thank you. I've uploaded a few little weird pieces. I'm quite to to the audio interface. Using reaper and so far the only VSt I use is Valhalla. Hahah. I sometimes use my moxf6 keys but I use its on board voices and effects on it until I buy a controller only. The moxf6 too much for what I seem to need. I hope to utilize omnisphere soon. So a controller would be easier to use and I'm using my little camper as a studio. Hahaha. I'm having a blast and I truly enjoyed this video of yours. I watched it a couple of times. Awesome skills my friend.
@John-ev3rm
@John-ev3rm 2 жыл бұрын
Which xps special edition model do you have, what type of dimm , udimm or rdimm is this
@arxsyn
@arxsyn 4 жыл бұрын
I am stumped. Should l get the Optane memory thing? It is slightly cheaper by $50 (up to 24Gb). The next option is conventional 16 GB RAM. If l get the Optane memory, can l add more conventional RAM later?
@kenfnord6553
@kenfnord6553 4 жыл бұрын
How often do bios patches help if your system doesn't allow more RAM?
@LloydSummers
@LloydSummers 4 жыл бұрын
Great question.., hmm this would be a good video topic too, so, bios patches can be beneficial. But, they usually aren’t. The bios really acts as a traffic controller - it checks some basic things and can modify some settings to the motherboard (including ram timing and stuff that can matter). But personally, I haven’t seen a bios update make any improvement in all my years except to allow for better hard drive compatibility (so you can use more types of hard drives down the road). It can improve USB speeds though for sure!!
@FrancoCalio
@FrancoCalio Жыл бұрын
I have the DELL XPS 8940 I'ii ask because when I plug the plug in the power the PC turns on for about 4 seconds and then turns off. While after I can turn it on regularly. So it is normal that it turns on by itself before being started: Thank you
@LloydSummers
@LloydSummers Жыл бұрын
That's interesting. If it turns on for 4 seconds, and back off, there is a problem. My best guess is it means it's either overheating, not enough power, or the ram is erroring during the initial startup.
@LloydSummers
@LloydSummers Жыл бұрын
Hard drives, if they fail, will still let the system start up and show an error. Most of the time bad ram will still let you startup and stay running. And overheating is usually only after running for a while. So my best guess would be the power supply isn't strong enough. But it is easier and quicker to remove the ram, insert only one, reboot, and see if the error occurs. Then switch them and try again. It should let you at least troubleshoot the ram sticks that way. But no-boot or intermittent boot problems are always difficult to identify
@FrancoCalio
@FrancoCalio Жыл бұрын
@@LloydSummers Ok. tanks so much. Bye bYe
@ScenicSouthNZ
@ScenicSouthNZ 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks very informative. If I already have 2 x 8GB RAM and want to add 2 more to make it 32GB, do I buy single and dual channel, what does this mean?
@LloydSummers
@LloydSummers 4 жыл бұрын
Chances are, the RAM you have is already dual channel. It makes the RAM run faster (instead of a single 64bit channel, it has 2x64 but channels, that it can send and receive data on). You can usually mix and match single and dual channel ram though, just remember to keep them in sets of two! So if your mother board has two white slots, and two blue slots, you want to put your 2 existing memory sticks in one colour, and your 2 new sticks in the other colour. They operate in pairs, so that should prevent it from having any compatibility issues. That said, the best way to be safe is to get 2 more that are identical. When they mismatch in timing or in single/dual - the motherboard needs to think more to make things compatible. It’s a tiny slow down but worth mentioning if it can be avoided :)
@ScenicSouthNZ
@ScenicSouthNZ 4 жыл бұрын
@@LloydSummers Ok, Thanks for your help!
@zigs9712
@zigs9712 Жыл бұрын
Am I able to get rid of my current 2x8gb 2666MHz ram out and put a random MHz 2x16gb in?
@LloydSummers
@LloydSummers Жыл бұрын
It depends a lot on the MHz and the XPS... The cheapest ram on eBay, for example, looks the same but only works in servers. And newer faster RAM (i e. The $300/stick type) might be too fast for the motherboard. But there will be a user manual for your specific XPS which will show what MHz are supported and the best slot to use if you only have one stick
@zigs9712
@zigs9712 Жыл бұрын
@@LloydSummers Okay, thank you
@markn0024
@markn0024 4 жыл бұрын
At about the 3:49 mark, just after you lifted up the power supply, there seems to be a free cable that isn't connected to anything. I'm hoping that's normal because I just upgraded my RAM and noticed a free cable that looks very similar to the one that appears in your video. Do you know what that is? Thanks!
@hulksmash8159
@hulksmash8159 3 жыл бұрын
That would hook into a graphics card and it comes from the power supply.
@hulksmash8159
@hulksmash8159 3 жыл бұрын
*Yes, you can have two matching graphics cards in the same pc.
@galacioramirez
@galacioramirez 3 жыл бұрын
Did the bios show 2666 as the speed of the RAM? I went with 4 sticks of the same vengeance 3200 and the bios had 2133 and couldn’t figure how to adjust in the Dell bios.
@zeroturn7091
@zeroturn7091 2 жыл бұрын
If it’s a locked Intel CPU the only solution is to get matching RAM. Speed, timing, and voltage.
@whatinthefudge5346
@whatinthefudge5346 3 жыл бұрын
Is this young Michael myers
@TryNotToHate1
@TryNotToHate1 3 жыл бұрын
If your watching this... MHz or not, different stop will run only as fast as it’s weakest component. Always. guarantee that Dell is only running at and utilizing the speed of those 2 slower ram sticks. Take them out and run only the 2 stick on the (white) slots and thank me later!
@Jimmytroller
@Jimmytroller 3 жыл бұрын
Ordered the XPS 8940 but a bit confused. So it says that the ram speed is 2933Mhz, but the i5-10400 can only run it at 2666Mhz, so should I just go ahead and buy 2x8gb of 2666Mhz of ram even though the max ram speed of the ram is 2933Mhz since the cpu in mine can only run at 2666Mhz? And for compatibility is the "CT2K8G4DFRA266" one fine (crucial RAM 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 2666Mhz CL19) Also do the ram timings matter that much?
@LloydSummers
@LloydSummers 3 жыл бұрын
Great questions - Ram timing is one of those things that has a very small impact. I think it is overrated, but technically the computer has to match the RAM when the sequences are off - sort of like a caching. I haven’t tested it but I suspect it has no practical slow downs and is mostly a theoretical slowdown. I agree - the CPU side will slow the RAM down for you. The nice thing about having the faster sticks is if you do update the CPU down the road, it will just work faster. There is also a chance the CPU gets patched later and can support faster RAM. But the price difference can be quite big.
@Jimmytroller
@Jimmytroller 3 жыл бұрын
​@@LloydSummers Thanks for the opinion on the ram timings, I won't worry too much about that if I decide to get some more ram. Also I didn't think of that point of if I decide to upgrade to a new cpu I wouldn't need to upgrade the ram again if I already bought faster speed ram (assuming that's what you meant by update).
@keshavsfunactivities
@keshavsfunactivities 4 жыл бұрын
What’s the difference between the dell xps silver Version and the Black XPS??
@ralphcopas
@ralphcopas 3 жыл бұрын
silver xps 8930 has been refered to as special edition with better cooling fan and i9-9900k that what is in mine though it was stripped and sold
@EuromanMovieReport
@EuromanMovieReport 4 жыл бұрын
What runs best on dual channel motherboard? 4 × 8 GB or 2 x 16 GB? Your thoughts?
@LloydSummers
@LloydSummers 4 жыл бұрын
Theoretically speaking, if it is random small apps running, 4x8GB as it gives 8 channels of data access. But if you use only a few large programs, the RAM will be read in sequence, so 2x16GB would be better. It would only be 4 channels but could read a full 16GB of data in a single attempt. I honestly would go 2x16, just so you have room to add 2 more down the road though... I’d love to see a benchmark testing this theory, hmm,m,,
@johndickinson7269
@johndickinson7269 4 жыл бұрын
Do you have an RTX 2060 card with that power supply ?
@NicheXCC
@NicheXCC 4 жыл бұрын
Why you changed the order of the RAMs?
@LloydSummers
@LloydSummers 4 жыл бұрын
Good question, Ram alternates in most motherboards. So you want identical ram in slot 1 & 3 (painted white) and another identical set in 2 & 4 (painted black). It is just a manufacturer recommendation - it doesn’t make as much of a difference as they suggest it does but it’s the guidelines for ram installs.
@NicheXCC
@NicheXCC 4 жыл бұрын
@@LloydSummers So, if its only one, you can put it anywhere you want? And if you put 2 of them, you place them on the same color ports for dual channel compatibility? In other words, make them work properly?
@LloydSummers
@LloydSummers 4 жыл бұрын
@@NicheXCC the only catch is that motherboards like to have only 1 or 2 sticks in a very specific spot. Usually they are the two white channels, or will be labelled. It will be in the user guide for the motherboard or PC. But in practice I haven't ever seen it make a difference if you ignore the recommendation
@larryraigrodski5381
@larryraigrodski5381 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, I’m going to upgrade power supply, is it the big box?
@LloydSummers
@LloydSummers 4 жыл бұрын
Good question, it sits at the bottom of the body, and in a kind of cubby area. It fits in very tight. I will try and remember to measure the existing PSU when I open one up next to do some hard drive upgrades
@larryraigrodski5381
@larryraigrodski5381 4 жыл бұрын
Lloyd Summers Hello I sent the pc to Best Buy and hopefully they will be able to install it. If not I don’t know what I’m going to do.
@LloydSummers
@LloydSummers 4 жыл бұрын
Larry Raigrodski yeah! Their geek squad is pretty good and usually reliable.
@larryraigrodski5381
@larryraigrodski5381 4 жыл бұрын
Lloyd Summers so I went to Best Buy they were able to install everything expect the optical drive.
@LloydSummers
@LloydSummers 4 жыл бұрын
Larry Raigrodski awesome, was the pricing decent? I feel like they have good support!
@r9robins
@r9robins 2 жыл бұрын
Man, what's that black thing on the table? Your socks or what? Hope you didn't get them off your feet...
@LloydSummers
@LloydSummers 2 жыл бұрын
It's called a cleaning cloth. The computer is sitting on it so metal isn't banging against the table whenever I'm opening or moving it around on camera to spare people's ears. :)
@r9robins
@r9robins 2 жыл бұрын
@@LloydSummers Ufff... what a relief :):):)
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