Upper Body Setup for the Forehand
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Күн бұрынWelcome back to the Form the Forehand series where we teach you how to throw the forehand in disc golf.
Today we’re moving on to the upper body as a unit and preparing it for the throw.
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0:00 - Intro
0:20 - Clarifying the pop
3:10 - Upper body setup
3:47 - The Unit Turn
4:45 - Feet setup
5:25 - Review
5:56 - Power generation
7:46 - Example set
8:16 - Prevalent problem
8:45 - Examples
9:52 - Bring it home
11:11 - Next time
@homebrewguitardiscgolfgarden 6 ай бұрын
Awesome, love the demo throws at 9:00, so smooth and effortless just as you taught it.
@OverthrowDiscGolf 6 ай бұрын
Sweet! That’s the goal!
@Buxydiscgolf 4 күн бұрын
Thank you for simplifying this and actually going through repeatedly the steps. I cannot wait to apply this on my road to confidently throwing forehands!
@johandennefors 6 ай бұрын
This video should be nominated for 'Best disc golf instructional video of the millennium'
@TheDrakmannen 6 ай бұрын
This was a real eye opener. My forehand has come a long way since I started playing disc golf, but this I believe will make it so much more consistent. I can throw about 350 with my FH today, but its a literal luck fest if I put on more than 60% power into it. Both early and late releases if I notch the power up. I tried dry swinging in my living room and man it just felt so natural. I probably have a bit of the the "chest forward" syndrome you described, but I feel just working on the chest and arm positioning here will sort a lot of it out. Thanks man, you rock!
@jims7131 6 ай бұрын
😳 Dang I want my throw to look that easy and go that far!
@gwsmallwood 6 ай бұрын
Follow his advice and learn to hyzer flip less stable discs like Josh was doing the last few throws. There’s no such thing as an effortless forehand when you’re leaning on Cap Raps and Fireballs.
@BillFromAZ 6 ай бұрын
small bit of advice, when showing grip use a translucent disc. We can then see through it and see not only where the fingers are, but we can also see where the thumb is placed.
@putkipihvi324 6 ай бұрын
This!
@patricksullivan3562 6 ай бұрын
They did that on the forehand grip video. It was a big help for me.
@patrickflanigan951 6 ай бұрын
Maybe all training videos should use clear discs with no markings
@FuckGoogle2 6 ай бұрын
That's about the only use I see for translucent discs, teaching.
@Jason-Moon 6 ай бұрын
@@FuckGoogle2 I like em for putting putters. If I have a problem finding my putting putter because it's clear, I clearly have bigger problems. 😆
@sabrewolf479 6 ай бұрын
I've got a 400ft FH. I figured most of this out by trial and error and luck, and a lot of it I'm doing without ever having thought about it, but your recent videos on FH are the best I've ever seen. The only thing I'd add is the FH is a whip, and the disc is the tail of the whip. Throwing a FH is cracking the whip at the target, and I use my whole body to crack that whip. A loose wrist is everything. Your wrist will violently go through it's full range of motion in a FH. All I think about is having a completely relaxed wrist and a grip firm enough to hold unto the disc until the whip cracks and the disc rips free.
@gwsmallwood 6 ай бұрын
True, but I’ve also seen guys force the wrist pop at the end leading to early pronation and late releases. Most of them watched the Uli video where he talks about flicking the cr@p out of it.
@JohnDubU 6 ай бұрын
Exceptional. I'm going to beat up my net a bit. Wishing all of you a very Happy Thanksgiving.
@OverthrowDiscGolf 6 ай бұрын
Happy thanksgiving
@WestCoastFloridaFishing 6 ай бұрын
Holy smokes Josh! (Mikey too!) The production value has just increased every video you guys produce! The FX on the Forearm and Torso here 4:10 is amazing! What a brilliant way to highlight the important form setup with visual cues!!! Man I would love to know how that has been done in post for my own video content! Haha. Loving the content y’all! - Isaac @ West Coast Florida
@OverthrowDiscGolf 6 ай бұрын
Mikey here! DM us on instagram and I’ll show you how I do it! It’s super simple :)
@WestCoastFloridaFishing 6 ай бұрын
@@OverthrowDiscGolf you’re a legend! Thanks Mikey!
@johandennefors 6 ай бұрын
Wow, this forehand series has been AMAZING! Thank you for showing something that no one else has been able to do. I instantly went from having an unpredictable forehand to controlled yet powerful consistent shots. I'm baffled. Hats off!
@deepsender 6 ай бұрын
I'm following this and trying to get it, Josh. I tried this drill this afternoon and almost hit a guy who was 100-feet off my line. So I watched the video closer this time and I see many things that I was doing wrong. Will try it again tomorrow. Thanks.
@discsmd 6 ай бұрын
LOL! See Josh it's harder to be first with you! I gotta step up my game! It's like I just watched my next lesson! Can't wait!
@jhillyt 6 ай бұрын
Great stuff OT
@theOcean41 6 ай бұрын
Those special fx tho oooooooooooo aaaaaaaaahhhhh
@CentralOSurvival 6 ай бұрын
Good stuff as usual!
@zssaiyajin 6 ай бұрын
Excellent video! Clear explanation, and great editing! Thanks Josh and Mikey!
@mriforgiate 6 ай бұрын
Just what I needed to help develop a consistent FH throw!
@the-tee-less-traveled-discgolf 6 ай бұрын
great breakdown of the lag and hip snap!
@fredrikholm8262 6 ай бұрын
Can't wait to test this! I have struggle with my forehand body movement but this makes it look so easy
@markhumphrey8894 Ай бұрын
Wait a second! So you don't really throw your arm like a baseball throw? I just did a FH with your tip of torso turn and flick. It felt great and no OAT! For some reason years ago I remember a popular touring Pro say don't keep your arm near your body or you'll "T-Rex" it, so I've kept the arm away from the body and didn't even try to get it close to the chest and I've never improved. I just keep turning it over and quite wobbly. Thank you so much for this video. I feel more confident with the angle I throw it on now. Good for only 150ft at the moment with midranges and 7 speeds, but I'm excited with that. Sick throws! They had to be over 300ft with stand stills and you hardly turned your shoulders!!!!
@karma121983 6 ай бұрын
I would be so happy just to have an easy/consistent standstill forehand like you are showing here. Excited to get practicing.
@DeadphishyEP3 6 ай бұрын
First part of this video on grip clarified lot for me.
@dierkens 6 ай бұрын
Thank you. I’ve got some work to do.
@daverupes7022 6 ай бұрын
Great video ! Man you are looking great as well, we all probably won't look like Ezra Aderhold but at least we are trying to stay fit so we can play as long in life as we want ! Happy Thanksgiving and holidays 🎉
@rustyblair7515 6 ай бұрын
Great teaching Vid. That ANI toss at the end was a monster... maybe 400'
@OverthrowDiscGolf 6 ай бұрын
Doubt it was 400’ but it does have me thinking about working my standstills for a while
@LindaLouMercer 6 ай бұрын
This video was great from a beginner learning the forehand. I love your detail. I'm a details kinda girl 😊 Note...for me, watching your videos more than once (try it, watch again, try it) I always see one detail or something Iay have missed that makes a difference! Now! Talk is cheap😅 time to go practice! again and again 😂🤪🙃 Thanks OT always.
@drewdoering5077 6 ай бұрын
Awesome video! There are many players (myself included) who have tons of potential forehand power from playing baseball, but have serious problems with off-axis torque and wobble. For me, I think the "holy grail" video would be if you circled back at the end of this series to demonstrate all of the tips from this series using the TechDisc and on slow-mo video. Either way, keep up the great content!
@gwsmallwood 6 ай бұрын
I had the same problem for a while. Mine was caused by starting the disc too high (like a baseball throw) in the reach back. Do like Josh is showing here and keep it on roughly the same plane the entire time. Could help.
@kennetsrensen1664 6 ай бұрын
Practicing from a stand still is SO important. Weight shift/brace, hip/shoulder seperation and the right hinge in the wrist, getting that down in a stand still "should" give most people a serviceable FH - along with a reduced risk of getting an injury. Good atufd Josh!
@FiyaEmblem93 6 ай бұрын
Your forehand is so good! I cannot forehand at all, ive been trying to practice a little with my bros
@OverthrowDiscGolf 6 ай бұрын
Thank you. I hope this series can help you
@emilkristensen1535 6 ай бұрын
Regarding wrist range of motion. The angle of the lower arm changes a bit when the elbow comes through, which makes it more flexion, and less abduction/adduction. It just seems like ab-/adduction when you are only looking at wrist movement.
@Goldbond-nf2wk 6 ай бұрын
Pretty sure a few of those forehand drives are still flying. Noice!
@DustyBrushy 6 ай бұрын
Very similar to tennis form (as you mentioned). Wonder if there are are any pro tennis players who play disc golf and if there are any cross-training benefits for it from DG 🤔
@OverthrowDiscGolf 6 ай бұрын
Cross training benefits for sure. Not heard of any pro tennis players getting into it.
@anthony452 6 ай бұрын
I'm looking at the Patreon and wondering if the "form review submission" is a full review of a persons form.
@OverthrowDiscGolf 6 ай бұрын
If you go to our “live” tab on the KZfaq channel you’ll see the form review live streams
@natebell4764 6 ай бұрын
Ok. Cool. It's been a year since I was able to park a small forehand hole at my local. Last time I played it I channeled your teachings and was basically bullseye. Got a question, that may fit in your more advanced parts of the forehand. Why do the big pro arms end up lunging with there lower body. Is that some sort of follow threw thing?
@OverthrowDiscGolf 6 ай бұрын
That is an interesting one. They are able to still get the hip clear they need even with a bent leg. I think part of it has to do with how low they are, but I must admit it seems like to would be more optimal power wise to have the leg completely press out. So basically I’m unsure
@gwsmallwood 6 ай бұрын
@@OverthrowDiscGolf I assumed you might talk about it in some of the lower body videos. I find just like the backhand, you can get some extra power just by bending the knees a bit more and dropping / driving the trail knee behind, or at least nearly behind, the plant knee. Sort of like a bowler, but not quite so extreme.
@ththejackjumper 6 ай бұрын
Trying this, I'm having a hard time not severely turning over the disk. Any suggestions there?
@OverthrowDiscGolf 6 ай бұрын
How much bend at the waist do you have?
@ththejackjumper 6 ай бұрын
@@OverthrowDiscGolf I think enough? I was going for similar to the 'ASMR' section of this video. I'll have to try it again (assuming the snow melts)
@OverthrowDiscGolf 6 ай бұрын
@@ththejackjumper try more bend first and record if you need to
@blametheobserver 6 ай бұрын
Which grip will give me the most hyzer the easiest?
@OverthrowDiscGolf 6 ай бұрын
Tough question and not sure it has an answer can’t answer but I would guess the split lends to more hyzer than the others.
@gwsmallwood 6 ай бұрын
Depends a lot on thumb position too. I suspect for most people the power grip or the Sexton/McBeth/Stokely inverted stack.
@theargolfer2084 6 ай бұрын
How far were you throwing?
@OverthrowDiscGolf 6 ай бұрын
Unsure but probably in the 325 range
@mindful_minipods 6 ай бұрын
You said it fine. Some people don't know how joints work? O ok.
@arhshields 6 ай бұрын
The biggest tell that I'm "pushing"/"strong arming" is that understable discs turn and burn. This is the point where a lot of forehand throwers grab Firebirds instead of cleaning up their form. Not pointing any fingers, but you know who you are.
@inov8ve 6 ай бұрын
How can I tell if this is my issue? I had to switch from a destroyer to an xcal to stop throwing accidental rollers.
@arhshields 6 ай бұрын
@@inov8ve If a Destroyer turns into a roller at 600', it might just be flippy. If it turns over at 250', you're strong arming. I don't know how your body mechanics work, but I can see on slo-mo video that when I release a disc in line with my chest, it's a good shot. If it releases in front, it's a turnover. The overall difference in hand position is like 3-6", but it's a complete difference in how the disc flies and how far it goes.
@Rasanate 6 ай бұрын
*raises hand in corner* I'm one of those people... :)
@timhill1196 6 ай бұрын
Im guilty of the fire over form but this series is definitely fixing that. Firebirds are now even more useful 🤙
@benharrison5816 6 ай бұрын
I feel attacked. Lol. Nah I don't force overstable stuff, but I do have trouble forehanding anything slightly understable with power. The feeling of pulling the disc instead of pushing has really helped eliminate some wobble and get cleaner releases. Takes a lot of practice though.
@noahgregory9632 Ай бұрын
Buddy throwing darts
@murdoc4794 6 ай бұрын
After about four or five throws my elbow feels like it is exploding. What causes that?
@OverthrowDiscGolf 6 ай бұрын
Are you trying to lead with it?
@murdoc4794 6 ай бұрын
@@OverthrowDiscGolf I’ve tried to lead with it, and not. I’ve tried keeping it tucked to my body, and that sort of helps, but then I have no power. I can throw backhand all day with no pain, but after a few forehand throws it hurts so bad I have to quit the whole round.
@OverthrowDiscGolf 6 ай бұрын
@@murdoc4794 I would need to see it to know for sure. The only thing I can for sure say is that it happens a lot with people that try to lead with the elbow and get it too far out in front of their body
@johannorberg4174 6 ай бұрын
For me what helped is to kind of think of it as chucking a heavy sack. You would go slow to build momentum and the end increase the speed. You are most likely "chopping" the elbow forward too fast so the elbow bottoms out to fast. You want the elbow to go out in reach back come in and then back out again. So practice moving the elbow really slow and just pop the fingers. Also scott stoekelys windmill or pendulum vid is a really good place to build a proper reach back. Josh here kind of does something that you really should avoid and that is late cocking the elbow, meaning he waits until very late to get the elbow in front of the hand which more often lead to injury.
@OverthrowDiscGolf 6 ай бұрын
@@johannorberg4174 actually, In order to avoid injury you want the elbow to spend as little time in front of the hip as possible. Baseball discovered that
@Alluklappleiter 6 ай бұрын
second
@DylanK443 6 ай бұрын
First
@OverthrowDiscGolf 6 ай бұрын
Wait, how did you see this? It’s unlisted?
@discsmd 6 ай бұрын
@@OverthrowDiscGolf He cheated! I demand a recount!
@29Thrill 6 ай бұрын
9:13 I can watch this one all day. great shot and camera angle
@patrickflanigan951 6 ай бұрын
Interesting your “unit” does not visibly rotate back or load. You put your left arm up and it does not move back. When you actually throw, your trunk freezes and then rotates forward. No real loading that I can visibly see
@OverthrowDiscGolf 6 ай бұрын
Yep. It’s going to be more apparent when we do a full walkup but it’s more positional like you saw
@bobmcaleer573 6 ай бұрын
Are you using stable or under stable disc's in this video?
@OverthrowDiscGolf 6 ай бұрын
All
@gwsmallwood 6 ай бұрын
Watch how his release angles change to accommodate the different stabilities.
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