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Vars can only prolong his real Sion video for so long. He's running out of WNOP champs. He ended perfectly designed. The rework pool is dwindling. Our time nears. Edit: We have the twelve all together. The ring of power can be formed. If we all vote on the Vars community poll, our will shall be enacted. You know what to do, my friends.

Unrelated note: I REALLY think they can implement a star guardian Urgot, like he's not cutesy and anything, he's a star guardian MAFIA BOSS with a fedora that has star card, a scar from a distant battle from Zoe (he's the sole survivor of that conflict besides Zoe herself by using an elixir or something of that calibre) and losing his legs from that battle. He met the crew afterwards maybe and had a pajama guardian skin.

Vars didn't mention W targets the closest unit, however that hitting Q makes W lock on to the target hit even if there are other units closer. Like how acid rain allowed his ability to become point and click, his current Q allows his W to auto-aim at the champion hit.

Graves and Nidalee are also reworks that completely changed the roles they were designed for with their reworks So Urgot isn't alone on that front

I used to LOVE old urgot, it was my pocket pick mid, no one knew how he worked so I had my biggest successes with him, I could only play him for 3 weeks and then he got reworded. Little did I know, it would happen again and again, for instance, I love fizz’s non-reverted W the one you had to recast after the bleeding bar was full, I’ m sad that they both changed when I loved them..

im so torn on the Urgot rework because I mained old Urgot and miss his kit a lot but I still really enjoy playing new urgot for different reasons. i wish both could exist at the same time lol

Imo urgot is more terrifying as a character than fiddle even in game getting tagged and dragged by the meat grinder is cruel

I miss old urgot, he was one of the few adcs I was actually able to play without running it

Urgot is such a good champion right now. If you perform bad -> he feels very weak If you perform good -> he feels like a death mashine, born for battle and revived and rebuild just to battle more and bring everyone down in big fights. He truly feels like a Juggernaut. Aatrox heals feel cheap and Tahm tankiness + base dmg feel wrong. Darius can simply run you down once he gets a little ahead. But Urgot always feels fair. I really like facing urgot. He does not have "cheese" but just a very solid kit. Its fun to play against him.

Old urgot on URF was one of the most broken things I've ever seen.

You didn't touch on this in the video but I think another big flaw in Urgot's old kit was that it was very passive. Ideally Urgot would sit back spamming long range Qs at the enemy until the enemy was forced to make a move, which urgot would then punish by being unreasonably scrappy for an artillery character. (Even without landing the acid grenade Urgot's Q was able to out-poke most champions. Sure it got way better when you landed the acid, but his neutral didn't rely on it as much as the video suggests) You didn't want to use the acid bomb unless you can confirm a hit, which means you had to be close, you wanted to have the shield in case you get dove, and your ultimate was probably one of the best "fuck that play you want to make" abilities in the game. You couldn't really make plays with Urgot, only anti-plays. (Also I will never forget M5's 1v2 solo bot lane Urgot. It's easily the proudest moment for that champion, flexing not only his strength as a character but also completely casting aside the rigid metagame of League of Legends, even back then... IEM Hanover M5 vs Dignitas Game 1 for anyone whose interested.)

I miss the gameplay of the old Urgot, man. I had a lot of fun at the end of games where I would swap one of the enemies into the fountain to kill them. We really need another very slow but hard hitting artillery ADC.

You’re making Oldgot sound op. And maaaaannnnnnn do I miss him. I only started playing him when his rework was on the way (I was super new to the game). I immediately picked up jungling with him and loved it. Easy ganks and homing missiles, funnn

Old Urgot used to be my personal midlane pocket pick against assassins. Something you neglected to mention was that his lock on worked through enemy stealth, serving as a point and click Q even on invisible enemies. Combine that with his ad reduction and you could give assassins a really hard time. You also always built a black cleaver early, giving you some aditional tankiness to make an assassins job that much harder. And if you had teammates nearby while an assassin was attempting to kill you or one of your teammates, you could point and click lockdown that enemy with your ult, almost guaranteeing a kill.

He still is the red lobster of league of legends to me

i loooved the old urgot, he was a lane bully that noone knew how to play against. but his ult was really bad for him, most of the time you didnt want to use it unless you could get someone stuck under your tower

So I mained old urgot and absolutely loved how goofy his build was he was amazing to play and just launch chainsaws at people halfway across the screen let alone his ult that would confuse the hell outta everyone except the user

I made the most amazing outplay with old Urgot ult that I can still see in my mind. I was getting dove by 4 enemies under a turret and walked away after killing 2 of them Smilers.

Yes sir my boy urgot finally got the love he deserved

I liked that his rework was the first implementation of visual overlays to the HUD to convey gameplay info. I think that the success and positive reception paved the way to other cool overlays like PROJECT / Sentinel Vayne during ult or being Pyke executed. I remember how freaky it was to get ulted by him and have chains cover the edges of your screen right after the rework.

Back when I was in college me and the guys used to laugh at Old Urgot's Ult. "Hyper Kinetic Position Reverser" was such a hilariously long name for concept than can simply be called "Swap". The swap wasn't even long range it was exactly the same range as his auto-attack but the difference to DOTA 2 VS Swap was it gave you armor and MR.

One thing I really like about urgot that you didn't mention is his w auto rythm which basically let's a good urgot player do way more damage than you might expect purely through timing

i do think urgot gameplay is worth saving in some part , the spell pase sniper adc is cool idea to begin with ,but i do think some of his kit is kind of wired (his R key),but still good job on the video love 2 see more

SHOTGUN KNEES

Just sad that he has a thing for camille legs: 1000 modified true dmg Auto reset Mv speed boost 20 mana 4s cooldown Cho'gath ult I like it too, but i also fkin hate this sht Mean while Machine gun leg goes bbbbbbbbbbbbb

Urgot R and his music theme is so good man

He was alright in normal games, but where he truly shined was on URF. I remember having so much fun in URF with old Urgot. Not limited by his mana constraints, not encumbered by his long CDs, just focus building damage. Missed your E? It's okay, you can try again in just a few seconds. Landed your E? They are completely done for, as you spam the locked-on Q, slowing them with W, and as soon as the effect runs out you can almost immediately throw in another E. And since you could focus your build on pure damage, you would absolutely MELT your opponent. He was a whole artillery army all on his own. So much fun. So much pain and destruction. I miss the good times.

I played Urgot when he first came out and took him Mid or Top. With typical Frozen Heart and Manamune build bot lane was usually a no go. His kit was made to bully in lane with his range and engage, counter, and chase in team fights. I think with the rework it was a success. You still get to do those things but have less range now with no Q. That being said killing people as they ran away with a long range Q was so satisfying. Made a lot of people rage.

Just a kickass video. Really appreciated you voicing those criticisms of Aatrox's rework as its something I completely agree with.

I really miss old Urgot. I mained him in S5-6, was a good time.

I think it’s funny most people played the old him as a tank top laner rather than as an adc that worked out way better . His e letting you auto target his q even through bushes and invis was so fun

10:05 graves wants to know your location

"Urgot just couldn't cut it as a champion" footage playing of Gravity destroying TSM lol ahhh somethings never change

I learned how to play Ezreal just because I play old Urgot so I'm actually liking how you frequently compare them to each other

Urgots ult made me scared to not have passive on Anivia, still does to this day but not as much, the idea that it also makes the body disappear is even more so to add a sense of fear. He was the first to have this effect, you know, before they have it to Lissandra's passive and then to Bel'veth, though if the coral disappears the body returns so I guess just lissandra and urgot. I wonder why they decided to do that.

1:20 **looks at old poppy** "KILL IT WITH FIRE"

I think Urgot is THE forgotten champion, i can't remember seeing him except once 6 months ago, and yes, there are other champs like Ivern or Skarner, but they've got the reputation of not being picked, Urgot doesn't even has that, no one knows him, no one remembers the crab man. And for this very reason he's fucking fire lvl 1, shreds everything to tears.

Love the use of the old Lollipoppy skin to represent the old Poppy.

"raid bosses his way" goddamn that was so beautiful!

i miss old urgot so much. Hit D1 with him for the first time maining him

I hope they bring back Oldgot's playstyle. He was my second favorite champ to play. A fairly slow but tanky artillery piece that, if played properly, was so difficult to deal with. It was like playing a slightly more mobile bunker.

I played so many games of old urgot, every time i was vs Zed it was a instalock freewin😄

I really miss going full AP burst and one shotting with the old poppy. Her damage was crazy and it’s unfair that it got removed for what she is now. You could always go tank but ap and ad did insane damage and it was so fun to see people’s reaction to being one shot against a wall

i loved old urgot and miss him :( his ult was so crazy, hope they bring it back on someone else in a similar form, but I guess nowadays the ult wouldn´t only swap places but also give shields, ms, stun everyone arround him and give 100% bonus lifesteal or some stupid shit, so I don´t know if I really want it ^^´ but new champs are coming anyway then atleast bring this fun ability back

Vars missed the opportunity to mention the SHOTGUN KNEE for 17min.

near the end of the old versions life i played him top marumana into tank his old passive and his ult was the only way this was sorta good a 15% damage reduction to any target that you auto or Q was kind op

Old Urgots E into Q reminds me of modern Yoricks E, in the early game it has a 12 second cooldown, and it doesn't apply any pressure without graves nearby. If it does you can effectively out harass any champion except a fast autoattacker like irelia or warwick.

I used to main old Urgot, seeing other player having no clue against this champ was quite funny. Once they got hit by Urgot's E, and I have the BC and Manamune combo, their health bar would be gone so fast. And there's one time my team was doing Baron, enemy adc came interupting us, and the good ol' switcheroo got it gangbanged by my team, and I survived because the R gave tons of resistance when used.

His shotgun knees are really cool

Classic urgot with items today would be pretty wild

i did love old urgot. but new urgot is fun too.

Graves was complety removed from bot as well with his rework

I miss old urgot I used to play him in top or mid lane and destroy enemies with him! Ultimate was tricky but usually you were tanky enough with frozen heart and Black cleaver to Survive 😮‍💨

I LOVED prerework Urgot. He was a meme pick before certain changes went through, mainly the rework on his Shield, his Swapper and how his basic attacks worked. Before he was kinda of a trolly ranged bruiser that sometimes won through matchup knowledge and sometimes through actual counterpicking. Urgot on his first gameplay rework was a dedicated AntiMarksman and could be played either Mid, Top or Bottom Lane. He was really fun and had clear weaknesses and strengths that made him a realiable choice for many a teams. I guess his impopularity was because he was buttfreaking ugly, his fantasy of a zombiefied abomination wasn't that appealing on design and lore and his previous kit failures and low winrate users made it quite a troll pick until Competitive started picking him. When the rework was finally announced, a lot of people still played Urgot as an AntiCarry or SupportCarry that helped AD Centric teams progress. He was functional, but he also was balanced on a knife edge. I can see why Riot removed him. If he lands his skillshots, he is unstoppable and besides disengaging him, he just free damages you with zero problems until his mana bites him and if he doesn't, he kinda just wobbles about for a bit because unless he has his ultimate up, he isn't that great. I still think a champ like him can work. His Ultimate was freaking cool and the concept of a turret champ kinda still exists with Cassiopeia. If they ever return to the concept, I want them to remove the binary aspect of his lock on, but remove his innate tankiness and how invisible his statchecking really was. But to be honest, I just want another champ that has that Ult. Nothing felt better than just Ulting the ADC and having the enemy team panic into either leave him be, protect him with a cancel or try to fight their way to stop the poor thing from getting zeroed by your team. That was fun.

I miss old urgot, tbh I miss the Q+E mechanic, that felt good, having that heat seaking missile was so good, wish rito bring that mechanic back

Tbf, Zeri is(was) also a tanky artillery marksman, with the "charge into enemy team" prowess of a juggernaut

Old urgot: crab meme New urgot: Shotgun Knees meme

Graves had his role changed drastically with his rework 😁

One step closer to Sion.

urgot is one of the best if not the best reworks for me

Btw a fun fact Tyler1 didn't make use to execute people with the ultimate in teamfights but the fear of the ultimate( ult flash) as you said and I really like the rework

Old urgot was used in competitive. First worlds league ever held featured a meta where Urgot would dominate bot lane alone while a support would roam the river, ward, harass the jungler, gank lanes. With how weak the old supports were, Urgot could manage to bully in a 2v1. His main problem was.. there werent many items to support his playstyle. He wasn't an adc really, he was more of an ad caster like pantheon. I bet with the current muramana, and all the lethality items, ikd urgot could work well.

Idc wat anyone says i been playing this game since you had to buy runes and yoricks rework was the most felt its impressive how they changed that “thing” into what he is now

Ok old urgot main here- the vgu/rework was necessary as most of the kit can be adjusted to not make the kit redundant. I would have made the corrosive charge slow as well and adjust the w. I would make the new w either a damage ability or passive/steroid which would shield urgot upon activation and adjust the ult as well. I would make it the execute or something similar. I would adjust the passive to make it grant attack speed and damage reduction. Thats it. He just needed light adjustments and buffs. I would also buff the q's damage and do increased damage if you have hit them with consecutive qs in quick succession. This would stack 5 times, but only unlocks after reaching 6. This would make it so he can't steamroll you right away. I personally liked the idea of a ranged skirmisher/caster marksman

wish there could be more eldritch-/ Lovecraftian-themed skins like the crab god urgot or thousand-pierced volibear. what a masterpiece.

Looking a this make me want to play the old urgot so much :///

Aatrox was a diver and became a juggernaut with the rework, so he also changed class, althought it stayed in the fighter group.

Its funny because i feel like illaoi has the exact same gameplay loop as old urgot

Fiddlesticks vgu was also a favorite of mine

Current Urgor actually mantains a lot of old Urgot. I will argue that the only new thing is the passive: Q: is his old E even with the lock on mechanic W: they kept the shield while also giving him offensive capabilities like the old one, the shield was later moved to the E so it would be easier to balance E: old ult but weaker R: it's actually a mega powerful version of his old Q, locks on champions, straight line missile, makes him a threat even when he is not close, can be lethal in the right situation Played both and felt that they kept the opresive playstyle of the old one quite well

I always played old urgot as support, used ult to peel, and rushed black cleaver for the 45% armor shred and the passive reduction so my adc could kill any diver fast

old urgot was must try on urf very fun

"Meme Crab" I love you.

So no one is gonna talk about that sick lee play at 13:00

old ult was really cool

I mained urgot before his update and after.

The last point is why I feel like this is why Urgot's rework success does not invalidate Aatrox's rework failure. Old Urgot's style just wouldn't work and this new one fits him far better. Old Aatrox was a draintank juggernaut focused on Auto attacks and deciding which form of on-hit to use at each moment (extra damage vs extra sustain). I like new Aatrox, but it was not necessary to rework his playstyle away from auto attacks.

The days of Urgod is no more

I really REALLY enjoyed playing old urgot. It was a ton of fun to play and the rework made me quit the champ in it's entirety.

SICK INTRO

I loved old urgot

If you’re going to talk about sion please PLEASE bring up the interesting parts of his kit. For the biggest example he healed his teamates for half what he healed himself. I wish that was in the game on another champion.

Vars: he got moved from bot lane to top and beefed him up Me who plays Urgot as a support:

Just one thing SHOTGUN KNEEEES

I feel like they didn't quite from square one because the lock on mechanic is still present.

If I remember this right, I dont think Urgots Q was even a skillshot. I think it worked like how rumble flame thrower does, it just shoots straight in the direction he's standing.

"The only rework which changed the intended role" Gr... oh wait that wasn't the *plan*

Just remember: S H O T G U N. K N E E S.

Graves' role changed with his VGU :)

i miss this Urgot though :CC

6:41 "Weirdest ability in the game" It's just a Nether Swap.

even tho the new urgot is better. I miss the old one :/

Urgot was actually one of the better reworks in the sense that there really was no salvaging his old self. So he really needed a 100% re-imagining like this. And it worked amazingly well

Old Urgot main. 🎩

God i miss the old one so much

Graves also got reworked and moved out of not lane

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I do miss old Urgot's gameplay a bit. I think if they made a character with a different W and R it could work but it would probably be more effort than Riot wants to put into it.

ah yes urgot thechamp whos god in every phase