URSA Broadcast G2 vs URSA Mini G2: Blackmagic URSA Showdown

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URSA Showdown! In this video I do a side by side comparison of these two URSA G2s. From price and color science, down to dynamic range, codecs, and frame rate options, there is a lot to discuss! Blackmagic, keep these great URSAs coming!
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0:00 - Intro
1:58 - Codecs
3:28 - Frame Rates
4:58 - Picture Profiles
6:34 - Dynamic Range
7:38 - Low Light & Tungsten

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@alexshotthese Жыл бұрын

The Ursa Broadcast G2 is the BMPCC6K Pro sensor shoved into a Ursa Mini body with a couple different codecs added. It's funny too because the Broadcast G2 even comes with an EF mount to attach as well as a top handle and shoulder mount. It's seriously a really good deal with what you get.

@JohnCastillo Жыл бұрын

True. It also comes with the V-Mount battery plate in the back. A lot of these things are additional purchases with the URSA Mini.

@jimbawb 11 ай бұрын

I've searched the entire internet for this comparison! Thankyou for putting the time and effort in to creating this comparison video. Very insightful!

@JohnCastillo 11 ай бұрын

Me too before haha. Glad I was able to help 😜

@chikombechela2460 4 ай бұрын

Just excallent! Thankful too!

@AndrewZeletrainStudios Жыл бұрын

I'm getting the Broadcast G2 as my A cam to my pocket 4K since the dual native ISO on an Ursa was something I was looking for. the 4.6K G2 and 12K are straight up cine cameras which require much more light and for me, that becomes an issue when having to shoot events when I don't have control of the lighting setup. I think the Broadcast G2 is a camera that will be looked over mostly because of the name when it truly is a pretty great events, broadcast and cine camera unless you are someone that wants those high framrates which for me I never found myself severely needing.

@tklee9556 11 ай бұрын

Wow really helpful video!!! It explained a lot of my questions, thank you!

@route909 Жыл бұрын

Totally opposite to what I have experienced with the URSA cameras. I own a G2, a UMP and four pocket 4K Cinema cameras, as well as the older models. The 4k sensor is very close to the 6K sensor in terms of dynamic range. The UMP G2 and UMP definitely have an edge in the highlight department but mostly in the shadows comparing them at their base ISOs (800 for URSA cameras and 400 for Pockets). The G5 vs G4 color science is easily switchable in Resolve if you need to compare them and this review didn't take into account the difference in dynamic range when selecting G5 color science in Resolve with the URSA cameras in LOG.

@MrIanWebb 11 ай бұрын

I love my Broadcast G2, makes a great A Cam to my 6K Pro, also is an aesthetic client pleaser. I do notice the Broadcast G2 tends to be more green than my 6K Pro, in fact, I usually run the Broadcast G2 with an extra +10 tint when shooting in daylight. This matches the 6K Pro perfectly. It must have something to do with the different internal ND's in each camera body. Thanks for the video!

@carlroberge7535 Жыл бұрын

Everything in the background looks so much better on the left pic but you, on the right, so much brighter! I see your face clearly with so much light and details!

@JohnCastillo Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I was surprised! We already see how much heavy-lifting software does on phones these days. The argument can definitely be made that the URSA mini has a better sensor, but if they don’t update the firmware for their new colour science, it will definitely drag behind.

@NiVoMediaSolutions Ай бұрын

I guessed the right camera was the broadcast because a video i was watching earlier said it performs better in low light. I've used the mk 1 ursa mini and always found it to be a little tough in low light.

@aLgProduction Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing.

@pulpcitymusic5760 10 ай бұрын

Very cool, great job!

@JohnCastillo 10 ай бұрын

Thanks 😁

@mrkumaran 5 ай бұрын

oh also don't forget the dual native iso on the broadcast. It is great in lowlight

@DeanHarringtonimages 9 ай бұрын

It's always a strain to figure out what camera to spend your money on when buying. The versatility of the broadcast camera for ENG work is practical with its 'live streaming' capabilities. That to my mind brings added income even though I'm no fan of broadcast turn-arounds.

@mrkumaran 9 ай бұрын

Loving my Broadcast, just completed a feature film on it

@JohnCastillo 9 ай бұрын

Nice!!! Congrats man

@overdev1993 10 ай бұрын

what about the crop in the different recording resolutions?

@colemowery 7 ай бұрын

Is there a chance you can share a download link to these comparison clips? I'm very curious about the broadcast 6k, especially since its essentially the same as the pocket 6k

@JamesVibe 3 ай бұрын

Im looking to upgrade my multicam cameras... what lens are you using for the low light comparison ? Do you have any footage from a concert or panel discussion you can show using the Broadcast G2? Looks great of paper.....but.....

@ADEXTURE Жыл бұрын

Very useful

@JohnCastillo Жыл бұрын

Glad to help!

@corneliusdobeneck4081 11 ай бұрын

The broadcast tends to burn out the image in the test shoot as well as loosing a lot of contrast due to the lower dynamic range, which also results in a possible color shift. Your pants for example. In addition the light/shadows become less beautiful due to the flattened image onthe broadcast.

@CornOffTheCobb Ай бұрын

I would have sold my G2 years ago if I was locked in to gen 4 color science. I switch it to gen 5 in post every shoot to match my 6k pro.

@robinsmith1956 6 ай бұрын

HI John. I'm looking at the G2 Broadcast for wildlife video. Have you or any of your watchers used this cam with a zoom range of 40x-50x plus. Would be interested to see the results and hear the comments.

@JohnCastillo 6 ай бұрын

Hey! I’ve never personally used it with a lens of 40x+. The most I’ve used on it is a Fujinon UA22x8BERD (with a lens doubler, so I guess 44x equivalent). Great results! Despite using a smaller part of the sensor, AND less light (due to the doubler), the light and colour information still holds up well 👍

@dasmeisterlein Жыл бұрын

FIRST! Great Video! Thank you for the information! Does the Ursa G2 a variable zoom with that optics and the zoom demands?

@JohnCastillo Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Yes, with the right lens (for example both of these Canon CN-E). You'll need a Cine Servo lens that is powered through the EF Mount.

@dasmeisterlein Жыл бұрын

@@JohnCastillo So you can confirm, that both of the Canon Cine lenses have variable zoomspeeds with the BM Zoom demand?

@JohnCastillo Жыл бұрын

⁠@@dasmeisterleincan confirm! As long as there is no adaptor (for example, a Metabones Speedbooster for the Studio 4K) the zoom and focus demands will work. You can also zoom using ATEM software. If the zoom works with the ATEM software, in my experience, it also works with Zoom/Focus Demands.

@dasmeisterlein Жыл бұрын

@@JohnCastillo but does it work in slow and fast zooms? like slow push ins and fast pull outs?

@JohnCastillo Жыл бұрын

@@dasmeisterlein Yes, but those lenses are certainly not the fastest for this sort of thing (definitely not comparable to a Broadcast lens)

@filmcrewassemble5972 2 ай бұрын

Please correct me if I'm wrong... If you record in BRAW on the Ursa Mini G2, you can select Gen5 color in the Raw settings window on the color page. (Right?)

@JohnCastillo 2 ай бұрын

Yes! You can do that in post, within DaVinci. However, I do use these cameras within the context of live broadcast, with live edits as well - which then becomes very difficult within all the multiple edits and cameras. If you’re using the camera for single camera shooting though, it’s certainly possible to “transfer” the colour from Gen 4 to Gen 5.

@MartinYernazian 10 ай бұрын

hey bud, when you up[grade the software of the Ursa Mini Pro G2 you can actually do Gen 5 color science. To me the Broadcast seems like a great camera but far more tv oriented and also its rolling shutter can be pretty brutal. On the other hand the 4.6K G2 is a beast. Yes, it has a few shortcomings but it can take them like a champ

@JohnCastillo 10 ай бұрын

Great to know Martin! I’ll def be updating them, thanks 🙏

@bastienchill 9 ай бұрын

Where did you find this new firmware with Gen 5 color science for the URSA Mini Pro 4.6K G2 ? Waiting for it to be released since 4 years now.

@mrbankole Жыл бұрын

I appreciate the comparison, John, super useful. I was wondering if you’d be able to confirm if the Broadcast G2 has the same genlock function that the Ursa Mini does that makes virtual production workflows possible?

@JohnCastillo Жыл бұрын

I can confirm that it also has a Genlock in, yes!

@RolandoZavala120891 22 күн бұрын

i'm sorry, but whitch tripoide do u use with those cameras?

@JohnCastillo 22 күн бұрын

We have Manfrotto 504HD, Nitrotech N8, or CamGear V25

@dasmeisterlein Жыл бұрын

So I would have guessed the other way arround with the picure profiles. I would have guessed that the image would be flatter with the Mini than the G2. Hmmm

@JohnCastillo Жыл бұрын

I know! I found that very surprising as well. It goes to show how much influence the dynamic range profile has over the sensor output.

@dasmeisterlein Жыл бұрын

@@JohnCastillo what also would be interesting to see: the pocket 6k. Also on your "not pro enough" video you showed the studio 4k do you want to review the 6k studio too?

@JohnCastillo Жыл бұрын

@@dasmeisterlein Pocket 6K is defiinitely doable! I've been wanting to do the Studio 4K Pro G2 as well as the Studio 6K but I haven't been able to get my hands on them 😓Good idea for the Pocket 6K though, I'll put it on the list 🧐

@DANAMIONLINE Жыл бұрын

I was looking at the highlight roll-off. I was shocked by Broadcast G2's highlight performance. The 4.6K G2 in the test looks crunchy in the highlights, harsher. Now I'm considering the broadcast instead of the Mini Pro.

@JohnCastillo Жыл бұрын

Completely agree! The colour science really does a lot of heavy lifting, it’s quite remarkable!

@DANAMIONLINE Жыл бұрын

@@JohnCastilloI’m curious what the test would like after you changed the Ursa G2 to Gen 5 in post. Did you try that?

@philippkrebs2484 Жыл бұрын

today was published camera firmware 8.1.2 with enhanced gamma curve and highlight roll-off. let‘s see how it was enhanced…

@JohnCastillo Жыл бұрын

@@DANAMIONLINE I have tried it! It doesn't really work unfortunately. Because the "Film" profile is different between both generation's colour sciences, it's sort of like applying a conversion LUT to different log curves.

@ShazammtheProducer 3 ай бұрын

the Broadcast is 4k60p and its dual iso and better in lowlight

@JohnCastillo 3 ай бұрын

Hey Shazamm! The URSA 4.6K G2 can also do 2160p60. As far as lowlight with the Broadcast, that dual ISO is certainly preferable - though I will say that in most of the low light work I’ve had to do (which is primarily dark theatre scenes, concerts, etc), the URSA 4.6K G2 has handled it quite well! ☺️

@ShazammtheProducer 3 ай бұрын

broadcast looks better hands down

@JohnCastillo 3 ай бұрын

I have actually slowly come around to the Gen5 colour science on the broadcast camera. In my work, we tend to use our 1 Broadcast camera with a broadcast lens, which when combined with all of our Gen4 URSA 4.6Ks sticks out like a sore thumb! Haha. However when we’re actually able to make use of that full sensor with S35 lenses I totally get it. I think we’re just gna have to upgrade our URSA fleet! 😅😅

@DeanHarringtonimages 6 ай бұрын

Light in the face tells the 6K ... right side.

@carlroberge7535 Жыл бұрын

Buy nice or buy twice!

@philippkrebs2484 Жыл бұрын

h264 is natively a hd codec, h265 was developed for uhd flavours. this is not a blackmagic issue…

@JohnCastillo Жыл бұрын

Not a Blackmagic issue. Blackmagic has other devices which can encode H.264/H.265 in a variety of resolutions (for example, the Hyperdeck line). However, it is still a limitation to consider in this camera.