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Uruguay's Forgotten Mauser - The Dovitiis

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Uruguay's Model 1871/94 Mauser conversions - known usually as either Daudetau or Dovitiis Mausers - are a really interesting story of arms history. It begins with Antonio Dovitiis, and Italian tailor and merchant of military supplies in Montevideo, who wound up with the job of procuring some new arms for the Uruguayan military, which was using single shot 11mm Mauser 1871 rifles - obsolescent by the 1890s.
Dovitiis made a deal with the St Denis arsenal outside Paris to convert 10,000 Mauser 71 rifles and carbines to the hot new French 6.5mm Daudetau #12 cartridge - a high velocity smallbore round. Much better than that old 11mm black powder round! Alas, it seems this isn't really what Uruguay wanted, and they were quickly scrapped after being received back home - Uruguay would end up buying fancy new 1895 pattern Mauser repeaters instead.
The Dovitiis conversion rifles can be found today every now and then, in both full length rifle and short carbine variants. The have a fantastic split personality going on, with German gothic markings on the receiver and French script on the barrel, along with Berthier-style sights and clearing rods.

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@falloutlover5443
@falloutlover5443 4 жыл бұрын
An Uruguayan rifle converted from a German model in France at the behest of an Italian that's often mistaken for a Greek. We don't get stuff like that anymore.
@brunoacosta8792
@brunoacosta8792 7 жыл бұрын
CAN'T BELIEVE MY COUNTRY HAVE A FORGOTTEN WEAPON!
@OlOleander
@OlOleander 6 жыл бұрын
Bruno Acosta Wooo! Welcome to the club, buddy! It's always exciting to see one's own country's flag show up, especially when we aren't expecting it to do so.
@petrsukenik9266
@petrsukenik9266 5 жыл бұрын
wel, small countries have more forgotten weapons, because if they create a gun, only small number will be build
@bennyjoe1990
@bennyjoe1990 4 жыл бұрын
@@petrsukenik9266 and they're usually used until they fall apart. Why spend money on new guns when the old ones still work right?
@juanhuber
@juanhuber 4 жыл бұрын
ya sabes aguante uruguay, le falta hacer un video igual, de un francotirador cal 50. q se hace aca tmb
@pescador-ti8sm
@pescador-ti8sm 3 жыл бұрын
me voy a la feria de tristan narvja, haber si encuentro una
@Luck-jl3hp
@Luck-jl3hp 7 жыл бұрын
Wow, I'm from Montevideo, Uruguay and I watch all your videos. It was a surprise you make a video of an uruguayan rifle.
@justacentrist4147
@justacentrist4147 3 ай бұрын
What are Uruguayan gun laws like today? Uroguayan mausers are very nice rifles when one can be found in good shape
@nanomontero6809
@nanomontero6809 Ай бұрын
​@@justacentrist4147 En Uruguay se pueden tener hasta 8 armas con el permiso " normal " , revólveres y escopetas en todos los calibres, pistolas hasta 9 mm y rifles hasta 6.5 mm. Si eres coleccionista la cantidad de armas que puedes adquirir aumenta mucho, también la variedad de calibres disponibles y algunas armas largas automáticas. Se necesita ser mayor de 18 años Un justificativo de ingresos económicos Certificado de antecedentes judiciales Obviamente el curso de tiro Exámen de vista y psicológico
@MidnaOfficial
@MidnaOfficial 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent Boone cosplay, Ian
@cult8625
@cult8625 7 жыл бұрын
FuryExtraLarge Boone doesn't have hair tho
@cult8625
@cult8625 7 жыл бұрын
Crammer Jack and Ian does
@Tobascodagama
@Tobascodagama 7 жыл бұрын
Which is funny, because I distinctly remember Ian saying that he's not much of a gamer when he did his BF1 review.
@teoesteves1432
@teoesteves1432 7 жыл бұрын
im argentinian, and i could shoot one of these in the Uruguay months ago.incredible to see the uruguay flag in your channel
@anhk_yt
@anhk_yt 7 жыл бұрын
Esteveskp you think Uruguay is in Argentina don't you, be honest ;)
@teoesteves1432
@teoesteves1432 7 жыл бұрын
Anhk94 ? i live in Argentina,and sometimes i go to Uruguay because my city is next to salto,one of the most important cities there. idk what is your problem with my comment.uruguay isn't part of Argentina,obvius
@anhk_yt
@anhk_yt 7 жыл бұрын
Esteveskp it's just a joke about Argentina because they think everything around them is a rightful part of Argentina haha
@teoesteves1432
@teoesteves1432 7 жыл бұрын
Anhk94 Ah,sorry i get angry easily
@F1delF1estasMC
@F1delF1estasMC 7 жыл бұрын
anh94 tiene razón una gran parte de los argentinos piensan en uruguay como provincia argentina e,e,
@MagicPortal
@MagicPortal 7 жыл бұрын
Uhhhh saludos desde Uruguay increible que estes analizando uno de nuestros rifles! Incredible ! Uhhhh we salute you from Uruguay with love, it´s incredible that you are reviewing one of our rifles. Your history was on point, your pronunciation was ok too jajaja. I have been folowing you since at least a month now. I couldn´t believe my country flag was in the thumbnail , i thought it was a mistake jaja. Congratulations for the work that you do in every video.
@RodrigoSilvaRocha
@RodrigoSilvaRocha 7 жыл бұрын
MagicPortal es mortal saber del rifle, pero como siempre, nada nos sirve y lo dejamos de usar por pelotudos.
@joaquinguelfi6682
@joaquinguelfi6682 7 жыл бұрын
Great work as always Ian. Greetings from Uruguay. ;)
@aleramone23
@aleramone23 7 жыл бұрын
I loved your video. im Uruguayan and i didnt knew about this interesting Rifle. Mausers were very popular and one of them gave the fatal shot that killed a famous "caudillo" of a civilian revolt called Aparicio Saravia in 1904, the shot was made at about 250 yards. Special thanks for talking about my little country on your videos Ian.
@rodrigoalonso5729
@rodrigoalonso5729 7 жыл бұрын
Uruguay gained its independence in 1825 from the Portuguese, known then as the Empire of Brazil
@victorbarcellos6445
@victorbarcellos6445 4 жыл бұрын
In 1825 Brazil was already independent...
@rodrigoalonso5729
@rodrigoalonso5729 4 жыл бұрын
@@victorbarcellos6445 oh so very independent! ruled by an Emperor designated by the Portuguese Monarchy... Yet, what I wrote was that Uruguay gained its independence from the Portuguese who ruled the Empire of Brasil, never did I say that the Empire of Brasil was still a part of the Portuguese Empire.
@MichaelJenkins910
@MichaelJenkins910 7 жыл бұрын
I have a hard enough time affording .45ACP for my range trips. I can't imagine what it costs to have an obsolete 19th century cartridge custom loaded. Regardless, that's a sweet looking little rifle. Thanks for making me aware of this unique piece of history.
@diktatoralexander88
@diktatoralexander88 7 жыл бұрын
As I always say:If it shoots obsolete ammo, it is fun! But another thing to add to what you're saying, when you're like me, my dad or my brother, who we all own guns that fire old obsolete cartridges, you know how it's always a rule to always check if your gun is loaded, right?Well if we ever found our gun loaded by some mysterious person, we would instead say "Wow, thanks for the ammo! I can finally go shoot this! "
@poppasquat8483
@poppasquat8483 7 жыл бұрын
Ian, great video! FINALLY someone made a video about these. I love shooting my 71/94 just a couple corrections: There is no ejector. The only Mauser 1871's that had ejectors were the Jagerbuchse rifles that were used in Africa. The ammunition problem Uruguay had was that they had the wrong cartridges shipped to them! There were several variants of the 6.5 Daudeteau and the correct cartridge was the 6.5 Daudeteau No.12 Uruguay went on to convert a very small quantity of Rolling Blocks as well, but this was done in country, I only know of 3 surviving examples.
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 7 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I must have said ejector when I meant extractor. Getting the wrong Daudetau cartridges would certainly explain the problems - thanks for that insight!
@ricardoM113
@ricardoM113 2 жыл бұрын
@@ForgottenWeapons Seguramente se refieren al Botador que es la pieza que golpea el culote cuando se acciona el cerrojo hacia atras con el cartucho enganchado en el extractor sacado de la recamara. Que lastima que esta presentado en ingles y creo que el cartucho es 6.5 x 53 Dodeteau. Alguien podría decir la procedencia solo se que se uso por muy pocos años en el Ejercito de Uruguay. Soy militar en retiro uruguayo nunca se menciono ese fusil durante los años en que preste servicios. Solo se que fue sustituido por el Mauser mod. Español Brasilero en cal. 7 x 57 y posteriormente entrado el siglo 20 sr adopto el Mauser mod. 1908 en cal. 7 x 57.Saludos a todos.
@tarmaque
@tarmaque Жыл бұрын
@@ricardoM113 Hi Ricardo, better late than never! If I understand it correctly the 6.5 x 53.5 Dodeteau is almost identical to the early 6.5 Carcano _rimmed_ cartridge. If it was based on the Carcano is unclear, and it would not be a good idea to shoot the Carcano in this Mauser. Since the rimmed Carcano cartridge is just as rare as the Dodeteau it also doesn't make sense to manufacture one from the other. However I understand that you can convert .303 British to either one by sizing, fire-forming, and trimming the case. (But my information is third hand so that may be incorrect.)
@ricardoM113
@ricardoM113 Ай бұрын
Te agradezco de verdad tus explicaciones. Resumiendo es 6.5 x 53.Por lo que decís es con reborde y no con yunque. Similar al 7.62 x 54R ruso o el 8 x 50R del LEVEL francés. Te mando un saludo. ​@@tarmaque
@anhk_yt
@anhk_yt 7 жыл бұрын
the full length rifle has a rod too, it's a longer rod. This is the kind of insight I come here for, thanks Ian.
@MrBioniclefan1
@MrBioniclefan1 7 жыл бұрын
yeah
@AxeGaijin
@AxeGaijin 7 жыл бұрын
Forgotten Weapons, one of those few channels that you go to the comment section to post; "Cool story bro" and not mean it sarcastically. ;)
@lakewooded4929
@lakewooded4929 7 жыл бұрын
Cool comment, bro. ;-)
@MilsurpMikeChannel
@MilsurpMikeChannel 6 жыл бұрын
Watching because there is a long rifle for sale locally... thanks for the information!
@williammichaelsexton
@williammichaelsexton 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing such an awesome piece, Ian. I was confident that this was an 1890 Berthier from the teaser clip you shared on facebook showing the clearing rod and berthier sights and such. I didn't even know this firearm existed.
@Fede_uyz
@Fede_uyz 7 жыл бұрын
i'm uruguayan, i looove guns, but never heared of this rifle... (btw, we gained independence from spain, never from argentina)
@rodrigoaoki9293
@rodrigoaoki9293 7 жыл бұрын
by the truth, uruguay fought against brazil in the independence war, uruguay was a brazilian state called cisplatina. Argentina helped then in the war.
@MundaneAxiom
@MundaneAxiom 7 жыл бұрын
You're talking about two different conflicts there, one against Spain and another later against Brazil
@Matias-nr6rm
@Matias-nr6rm 6 жыл бұрын
Uruguay is still an Argentine province papa ;D
@MrMaxiARG
@MrMaxiARG 6 жыл бұрын
Federico Olivares Implying americans know when they talk about our continent... Cool rifle btw, greetings from la concha de la lora!
@markosmark2336
@markosmark2336 5 жыл бұрын
ARMAS URUGUAYAS QUE CALIDAD TIENEN MISILES NUCLEARES TAMBIEN AHORA JAJAJA
@astridvallati4762
@astridvallati4762 3 жыл бұрын
The 6,5x53R No.12 D'audetau is based on the M1891 Mosin case, necked to 6,5, and the Rim turned down to all Semi-Rim dimension so the case is Not " Rimmed" DocAV
@astridvallati4762
@astridvallati4762 4 жыл бұрын
French ammo producers ( SFM) kept manufacturing 6,5 Daudetau ammo into the 1920s for sporting carbines on the Daudetau M1895 Navy rifle pattern. Catalogues of Manufrance ( at St.Etienne) show the Daudetau No.12 cartridge and the 6 shot sporter. DocAV
@miguelangelsimonfernandez5498
@miguelangelsimonfernandez5498 7 жыл бұрын
Nice gun. The Karl Gustav mauser is another great, great, 6.5mm rifle and cartridge combination. They shoot so well. It would be an intersting article
@Gazulolima
@Gazulolima 7 жыл бұрын
i like to see more latinoamerican history here. Very good.
@troy9477
@troy9477 7 жыл бұрын
I had watched,and enjoyed this video some months back. A few days ago, i was in a shop with my buddy, where he was doing a private party transfer (hey, it's Kalifornia). The shop owner was showing one of these, a full length rifle, to a regular customer, very cheap. The customer was a little hesitant because he wasn't sure of the chambering. I remembered some infobits of the story, and the fact it was in 6.5 Daudetau. The owner had printouts from C&Rsenal about it, as well as some other info. We also looked at COTW. I opined that brass could probably be made from various rimmed cartridges, and certainly any rimmed or semi-rimmed 6.5. I also suggested Huntington's for brass, or any of the custom loaders. (I was trying to help the shop owner sell it). The customer decided to wait to decide until he could do more research. I have since found that brass can be made from 7.62x54R without too much trouble. Don't know if other 6.5 dies can be used with the sizing die adjusted, or what (depends on body diameter and taper, of course). Anyway, it was a fun encounter and we had a nice chat. I'm sure it's fun to shoot. The ballistics are basically identical to .30-30 with a longer than 20" barrel. I may see if it's still there when my buddy goes back to pick up his gun....... . ☺ Great video as always. Thank you
@admiralpercy
@admiralpercy 7 жыл бұрын
It's not often you get to do a Forgotten Weapons episode on the range. I really like this format.
@lpanades
@lpanades 7 жыл бұрын
I fall in love. It is super slim, like I love in rifles.
@bakalitetrick968
@bakalitetrick968 7 жыл бұрын
me too.
@MrBioniclefan1
@MrBioniclefan1 7 жыл бұрын
Yep
@mikerutchka1836
@mikerutchka1836 7 жыл бұрын
Buffalo Arms sells loaded 6.5x53R (Daudetau) ammo!
@RodrigoSilvaRocha
@RodrigoSilvaRocha 7 жыл бұрын
What? Uruguay did a rifle? I'm a bit more proud of my country.
@facundoalonso213
@facundoalonso213 7 жыл бұрын
Rodrigo Silva Increíble no?
@RodrigoSilvaRocha
@RodrigoSilvaRocha 7 жыл бұрын
El Milico1943 la posta que sí, me sorprende. Igual eso es del año del loro, ahora tenemos armas de 50-70 años atras
@pweasel
@pweasel 7 жыл бұрын
El modelo rifle es el que usábamos para desfilar en el Liceo Militar General Artigas.
@RodrigoSilvaRocha
@RodrigoSilvaRocha 7 жыл бұрын
Marco Viggiano lo usaron o solo lo tiene para los desfiles?
@pweasel
@pweasel 7 жыл бұрын
Desfiles, se que tenían los cerrojos separados de los rifles (para que nosotros los niños no nos baleáramos por error, calculo... 100% probable que fuera a pasar :) ) y cuando salíamos de maniobras hacíamos tiro con FALs.
@georgesakellaropoulos8162
@georgesakellaropoulos8162 4 жыл бұрын
At first sight, that looks like a delightfully handy little carbine. Confirmed @4:00.
@SNOUPS4
@SNOUPS4 7 жыл бұрын
For some reason, I think this video is especially awesome, but I couldn't say why... Maybe it's because it's a cocktail of awesome french-german forgotten hybrid carabine, because of the beret, the pun, Ian's fascinating explanations, his gift with foreign languages and the actual shooting :) Anyways, thanks for having made this video!
@vincentmueller3717
@vincentmueller3717 4 ай бұрын
The carbine started out life as a "jägerbüchse", generally termed a short rifle. A carbine would have been marked "k71" or KAR71", and been stocked to the muzzle with a sightguard nosepiece.
@Matt_The_Hugenot
@Matt_The_Hugenot 7 жыл бұрын
Gorgeous carbine. How often have we seen countries' attempts at cut price rifle solutions turn round and bite them and end up costing them more money than if they had made the right decision in the first place?
@damiangrouse4564
@damiangrouse4564 7 жыл бұрын
Matthew Doye Politics/common sense =vinegar/oil.
@MrBioniclefan1
@MrBioniclefan1 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah good point
@ThePerfectRed
@ThePerfectRed 7 жыл бұрын
One reason for the small 6,5mm caliber might be that they needed a low recoil because of the weaker locking lug of the blackpowder m71 rifle.
@Ensign_Cthulhu
@Ensign_Cthulhu 7 жыл бұрын
The issue is not recoil; the issue is CHAMBER PRESSURE. You can have a heavy-recoiling cartridge that operates at lower pressure than a lighter-recoiling one - e.g. maximum heavy-bullet loads in .303 British are actually at lower-pressure than maximum loads in .223 Remington, but I can tell you from experience which I would rather fire ten of in rapid succession. The small calibre is a good way to increase the ballistic efficiency of a bullet of the same weight and the same nose shape, and it also improves penetration. Google ballistic coefficient and sectional density and you'll see what I mean. Various nations had varying ideas of what constituted the best set of ballistic compromises; the general split in the major powers seems to have been 6.5mm (0.264") vs somewhere just north of 0.300" (the various 30 cal, .303, 7.62, 7.7, 8mm). In the long run, it seems the 6.5 advocates may end up being right.
@ThePerfectRed
@ThePerfectRed 7 жыл бұрын
Well thats what I meant, the energy that the cartridge thrusts at the locking lug(s). The m71 has only one lug I think, whereas later designs were built much more sturdy for smokeless powder cartridges. The 6,5mm is a good alternative, it probably has an intermediate chamber pressure yet offers a good ballistic performance, at least at medium range.
@nicholaspatton5590
@nicholaspatton5590 2 жыл бұрын
That would be great to put a cartridge holding sleeve on the buttstock/comb
@pablofalcao1700
@pablofalcao1700 7 жыл бұрын
what a surprise to know a little more about my country. Thanks for your awesome and dedicated work
@flyingninja1234
@flyingninja1234 7 жыл бұрын
This is a very fascinating rifle/carbine & it has a great story to boot. Thank you for this.
@acedia_14
@acedia_14 7 жыл бұрын
"Let's give this a shot. Literally." - Gun Jesus 2016
@MortusArtis
@MortusArtis 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Ian, awesome rifle! I'm a big fan of single shots for some reason I was wondering what the parent case used for your custom ammo is from?
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 7 жыл бұрын
7.62x54R
@MortusArtis
@MortusArtis 7 жыл бұрын
Forgotten Weapons I was thinking that, I have a 1928 M91/30 myself, Thanks for the reply!
@Jesses001
@Jesses001 7 жыл бұрын
That makes sense. I have the specs for that round and I can see how a 7.62x54R could be reshaped.
@ricardoM113
@ricardoM113 2 жыл бұрын
@@ForgottenWeapons 7.62 x 54 R calibre ruso del Mossin Nagant no tiene nada que ver con el Dovitis que 6.5 x 53
@daveweller9579
@daveweller9579 5 жыл бұрын
Mausers always have the smoothest bolt action I've ever seen
@mannequinfukr
@mannequinfukr Жыл бұрын
Try a mannlicher-schönauer. Those are extremely smooth rifles
@Punisher9419
@Punisher9419 7 жыл бұрын
Fit an optic to the carbine and you have a very good marksman's rifle.
@Purpmaster
@Purpmaster 10 ай бұрын
I’ve had one of these things for almost a decade, saw a mint one at the last Tulsa show
@thegoldencaulk2742
@thegoldencaulk2742 7 жыл бұрын
What're the odds you post this and I find 2 Uruguayan Mausers on Proxibid?
@MrBioniclefan1
@MrBioniclefan1 7 жыл бұрын
I don't know
@justinliu7357
@justinliu7357 7 жыл бұрын
Ian is good at what he does.
@tomassilveira1987
@tomassilveira1987 Жыл бұрын
Finally I came across a video of a fire arm from my country
@olecanole8596
@olecanole8596 4 жыл бұрын
I had one of these some years back. The bolt head was missing & I couldn't locate another. So, I sold it.
@FrutillaitorX
@FrutillaitorX 7 жыл бұрын
Great video. Funny how I got the whole story from a rifle made in my country from you!
@millwaterpublishing1387
@millwaterpublishing1387 7 жыл бұрын
Curious as to what case is being resized for 6.5 Daudetau ammo.
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 7 жыл бұрын
7.62x54R
@Toolness1
@Toolness1 7 жыл бұрын
Us reloading nerds can't handle the mention of custom loaded ammo without that info :)
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 7 жыл бұрын
+Toolness1 just think- we could revive the cartridge and Re-barrel Mosins. The Mosins could probably handle far higher pressures and we'd end up with something like a rimmed 6.5 creedmoor. Hmmm...
@marcomartini9239
@marcomartini9239 7 жыл бұрын
Not everyone has a volume of "Cartridges of the World"
@somedude3766
@somedude3766 7 жыл бұрын
Jeremian go watch kittens videos and leave those who find history fun. Ian is a master at his job and vrings super historical perspective in his work. I am offended that you are offended, so should you be banned? See how that works? The fact that you are offended, does not make you right. This channel is a great source or historical information, there are kittens and flowers channels for you to enjoy. Just go look at that.
@420BulletSponge
@420BulletSponge 7 жыл бұрын
He wore a raspberry beret, the kind you find at your favorite gun store.........:) I couldn't resist, Ian. Keep up the good work!
@BigTuna69VCR
@BigTuna69VCR 7 жыл бұрын
Never have I been more proud to be Uruguayan.
@jamesreidtabo7803
@jamesreidtabo7803 7 жыл бұрын
its been a while since I've seen you shoot do this more often.
@neunurg2337
@neunurg2337 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video! Greatings from Uruguay!
@Aetherius74
@Aetherius74 7 жыл бұрын
they should have added a mannlicher enbloc magazine to that and you'd have a handle light recoiling repeater.
@slaughterhound8793
@slaughterhound8793 4 жыл бұрын
I thought the story was going to be that they somehow converted them into repeaters by machining some sort of Kropatschek style tubular magazine into the fore-stock.
@NanoManya8
@NanoManya8 7 жыл бұрын
Never thought I would see my country's flag in a thumbnail in one of your videos! Cool!
@patrickunite
@patrickunite 5 жыл бұрын
Anybody have reloading data for this bad boy? These actions were originally for 11mm Mauser black powder. I'm trying to go easy on the old girl
@genghiskhan6809
@genghiskhan6809 2 жыл бұрын
Now this is a forgotten weapon.
@bartsimpson6767
@bartsimpson6767 2 ай бұрын
Well I learned something new today, thanks.
@crazyfvck
@crazyfvck 7 жыл бұрын
Cool video dude :) Thanks for sharing some of your personal firearms with us!
@DinglePinky
@DinglePinky 7 жыл бұрын
That's a sexy rifle.
@lasegundaenmiendagmail8170
@lasegundaenmiendagmail8170 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Ian ! As you can see you have lots of suscribes from all over! Would be very cool to see more forgotten weapons from South America! tks
@Sprengi86
@Sprengi86 7 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering - Why are you wearing a T-shirt from KACO - a German company that makes solar-power inverters?
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 7 жыл бұрын
I used to work in the solar power industry, and Kaco was a partner in some big projects we did.
@qualquerdomundo
@qualquerdomundo 4 жыл бұрын
Because the t-shirt was free, i believe.
@VegasCyclingFreak
@VegasCyclingFreak 7 жыл бұрын
Interesting history on this rifle
@somedude3766
@somedude3766 7 жыл бұрын
Nice French accent, thank you for your efforts at pronunciating foreing words properly (or close!) in your videos!
@electriceye2108
@electriceye2108 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure this rifle takes a modified p53 enfield socket bayonet as well which is also pretty cool.
@lakewooded4929
@lakewooded4929 7 жыл бұрын
Nice looking weapon, slender and light.
@CaptainGrief66
@CaptainGrief66 7 жыл бұрын
_Italy,_ _Italy everywhere_
@Kevinkylekat
@Kevinkylekat 7 жыл бұрын
Nice to see you in the Az.
@joshsamuelson1793
@joshsamuelson1793 7 жыл бұрын
Cool gun. Totally wanted one just based off of the look of it until you mentioned the ammo issue.
@nickl7488
@nickl7488 7 жыл бұрын
ian, for someone who doesn't wear a beret all the time, yours doesn't look half bad! trust me a lot of people, scouts and the like, who wear berets with their uniform don't have theirs nearly as neat as yours... do be more careful tucking the string on the back under the beret though! or if the beret fits you without adjustment you can cut those strings off
@vinercent215
@vinercent215 7 жыл бұрын
Ian looks stunning with a beret, I love it!
@pikeywyatt
@pikeywyatt 6 жыл бұрын
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@JC622Kilo57J
@JC622Kilo57J 7 жыл бұрын
Just inherited one of the full-length rifle. It has been in the family (of gun-muggles) for decades and everyone else assumed that it was an Enfield, allegedly a WW1 bring back. Not so.
@alexisroy5667
@alexisroy5667 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your good videos ian!
@fucktardo8755
@fucktardo8755 7 жыл бұрын
You've gotta love that Kaiser Wilhelm II font!
@jackmcslay
@jackmcslay 7 жыл бұрын
Are these from your personal collection?
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 7 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@nickhilty4013
@nickhilty4013 7 жыл бұрын
the G 71 hey Ian I'm a huge fan youre great about your history
@Jesses001
@Jesses001 7 жыл бұрын
Neat rifle. The carbine would be a handy rifle to carry in the woods for some casual hunting...you know if the ammo was not nearly impossible to get.
@tacoman9876543211
@tacoman9876543211 7 жыл бұрын
whats the most expensive or favorite firearm that youve ever had? whether its personal collection or sold, by the way i love your channel though i may never be able to buy a $75k gun, its pretty cool to learn about all these rare weapons
@davidstegman8147
@davidstegman8147 7 жыл бұрын
May make a good hunting rifle or training rifle if you could find or make ammo.
@OrcActual
@OrcActual 7 жыл бұрын
$5 says it's pronounced "doh vee tee"
@OrcActual
@OrcActual 7 жыл бұрын
Doom ya
@Lihoratka
@Lihoratka 7 жыл бұрын
Well, knowing the origins of this weapon, it's probably pronounced "Dohveetchy"
@MrPanos2000
@MrPanos2000 6 жыл бұрын
Cand R arsenal Othias said he was Greek, which makes sense, since doveetis is a Greek name
@nicholaspatton5590
@nicholaspatton5590 6 жыл бұрын
Just hand gesture when you pronounce it for 50% more accuracy of pronunciation.
@dreamingflurry2729
@dreamingflurry2729 7 жыл бұрын
That the gun doesn't tear itself apart (France and Germany back then didn't really like each other) is a wounder, the parts should be pushing each other apart like magnets you try to force together with the wrong poles!
@andreweisen3314
@andreweisen3314 7 жыл бұрын
yay shooting
@rockyuruguay6672
@rockyuruguay6672 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Ian, we declared our independence from the Spanish, not the Argentinians. And we fought many wars. Our natural harbor was so good, since we are in the inside curve of the Rio de la Plata and Argentina get all the mud, that every single power at that time wanted this harbor and their lands. So, Portuguese founded the first city, they where kick out by the Spanish, the British try, twice, Argentinians and Brazilians try, being the Bazilians who retain half of the country. Actual Rio Grande do Sul use to be Banda Oriental (Uruguay). Anyway you can find a lot of mausers too here, three locking slugs, mostly germans, and two slugs from France and Belgium. Most of them had been rebarreled and still in use for hunting. Lots of Rolling Blocks 7mm mauser too.
@USSEnterpriseA1701
@USSEnterpriseA1701 7 жыл бұрын
You know, between the full length rifles rear sight and the shape of the barrel shank, at around 12:34 you could be forgiven for thinking you were looking at a very, very early Mosin rifle. Of course those of us that know about the very, very early Mosins know that Chatellerault was the first actual producer of Mosins before the Russians got Tula, Izhevsk, and Sestroyetsk up and running.
@coles201
@coles201 7 жыл бұрын
That carbine is a fine looking rifle indeed.
@tomaspabon2484
@tomaspabon2484 Жыл бұрын
I read about this thing, figured "There's just no way Gun Jesus has gotten his hands on this" and 10 seconds later here I am
@willskittles5544
@willskittles5544 7 жыл бұрын
I like any of the odd ball mausers. Well this is half mauser but you get my point. I would like to see a video on any of the Swedish mausers.
@VFRSTREETFIGHTER
@VFRSTREETFIGHTER 7 жыл бұрын
Ian has gone airborne.
@elkevdlt
@elkevdlt 2 жыл бұрын
Check the Sniper antimaterial Peregrino fs50 Made in Uruguay.
@TwentythreePER
@TwentythreePER 7 жыл бұрын
At 12:25 it looks like there is almost a clip guide on the receiver. Why is that if it's a single shot rifle?
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 7 жыл бұрын
It's not a clip guide, it's where the bolt retention screw and washer stop.
@RealLuckless
@RealLuckless 7 жыл бұрын
Didn't see anyone else asking about it, but I'm rather curious about the thinking behind the clearing rod. Is there anything about the design of it that would have made a slot for use as a cleaning rod somehow difficult? Just seems very odd to issue something like that for soldiers to lug around, but not have it designed such that it would serve far more use in the field.
@DennyCigano
@DennyCigano 7 жыл бұрын
Nice truck! Do a review on your track!)))
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 7 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rtSHft1oqNrMm58.html
@deadflowers7017
@deadflowers7017 4 жыл бұрын
@@ForgottenWeapons Nice
@TomaszWota
@TomaszWota 7 жыл бұрын
Ah, god damn, for a second there I hoped it was about the Polish anti-tank rifle Ur (codename "Uruguay", "Ur"), but then I finished reading the title... This one is cool, too, don't get me wrong, but I'd love to see you talk more about some Polish guns. :P I get it that it wouldn't be easy to lay your hands on them, though. Ur (kb ppanc wz. 35), for those still reading, was a Polish anti-tank rifle firing 7,92 × 107 mm DS ammo, developed in secrecy and capable of neutralizing pretty much every German tank in 1939, from under 100m, including Panzer IV (B, C, probably D, they started ramping up armor on them later on). The interesting part, apart from all the secrecy, was what happened with the bullet on impact. ...go and read about it. ;) If only you could get your hands on one... Or on Mors (would-be wz 39) machine pistol (nigh impossible).
@Foxtrop13
@Foxtrop13 7 жыл бұрын
in 1811 there was no argentina, the conflict that led to the uruguay independence was a war between the empire of brasil(brasil) and the united provinces of the south(argentina) for the territory of uruguay, in the ground argentina won most of the battles but in the sea brazil always come back with more ships, at last uruguay proclaim the independence, argentina and brazil get nothing from it and the british/french/german has a new port for introducing their products
@theol3199
@theol3199 7 жыл бұрын
Could you do a video on vetterli 6.5 conversations? I forget the actual model number and I know they aren't worth much, but the history would be incredible to hear.
@ScreamingSturmovik
@ScreamingSturmovik 7 жыл бұрын
speaking of advanced 19th century cartridges, why did many nations adopt 6.5mm only to adopt 7.5mm+ despite the advantages of the former? i think there is something to be said about the russians considering (even if briefly) to adopt 6.5 arisaka in order to make the fedorov avtomat a "practical" automatic rifle. Would this only be because they did not have the research of typical combat range and believed that if they had longer range they could out shoot the enemy even at 500m? i just find it odd that many nations like Italy, Japan, Austria and some others would go from 6.5mm to an entirely new cartridge only to have sub 7mm become a standard for most of the western world.
@Ghost_Of_SAS
@Ghost_Of_SAS 7 жыл бұрын
The correct italian pronunciation is "Doh-vee-zees", in case you're interested.
@sH0xXx89
@sH0xXx89 7 жыл бұрын
Ghost81 Fus-Roh-Dah!
@Ghost_Of_SAS
@Ghost_Of_SAS 7 жыл бұрын
sh0xXx89 I was wondering when someone would say it lol
@MrBioniclefan1
@MrBioniclefan1 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@flyingninja1234
@flyingninja1234 7 жыл бұрын
Ghost81 - Thank you.
@OlOleander
@OlOleander 6 жыл бұрын
Ghost81 Thanks. That's definitely not what I'd have guessed - Italian is not without its share of linguistic oddities.
@tylergordon696
@tylergordon696 7 жыл бұрын
In my search for load data, it appears buffalo arms still makes ammo. I was interested too see what tge parent case was.
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 7 жыл бұрын
My ammo was made from 7.62x54R cases.
@GadgetPonyGal
@GadgetPonyGal 7 жыл бұрын
That carbine is such a cute little rifle! I'd love to get to shoot something like that at some point. But then again, I'd love to get to shoot anything at some point. The trials and tribulations of being a 24-year-old gun enthusiast living in New York, I suppose. Everything's illegal here.
@richarddb1856
@richarddb1856 7 жыл бұрын
GadgetPonyGal I know you feel my friend, I live in Alberta Canada, and while we are in a better position then some people in New York ( we can get our License for firearms here but on,y for rifles, ) we're not allowed to own handguns and even smaller caliber rifles can be harder to get because in order to have your license it requires a completely clean record for the rest of your life or you will have your license taken away. I personally am more of a handgun enthusiast so it kind of sucks, but hey, I'm grateful I can at least still own hunting rifles :). You should consider moving somewhere some day that has less strict firearm laws. I know it's not worth the move just for that, but if your ever thinking of moving it might not be a bad idea. Anyways greetings from Calgary,, Alberta, CA
@Spearfisher1970
@Spearfisher1970 7 жыл бұрын
I'd love to have a rifle like that, but in some cartridge that I could easily find, or reload, ammo for.
@Spearfisher1970
@Spearfisher1970 7 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure what's up with KZfaq, but I just got an e-mail of a reply to my post (that I am now replying to) with what seemed to be a very interesting post, but that does not exist here: "4nuk8r If you decide you might enjoy lavishing time care and attention (and not so much money) on an orphan like this I will tell you what I have done to make ammunition where absolutely none was available. First realize that bottleneck cartridges fire normally at 30,000 to 40,000 psi and that the guns are usually tested with specially identified "blue pill" ammunition of 70,000 psi. Scared? Good. That is as it should be. Second realize that the breach of the gun and the locking bolt take all the stress..." .... I came back to the video to try to read all of it, but none of this reply seems to be here.
@Spearfisher1970
@Spearfisher1970 7 жыл бұрын
So in the in-youtube notifications, I found the rest of his very informative post: " Notifications Notification Details ... 4nuk8r6:24 PM+1 0 1 1 Reply If you decide you might enjoy lavishing time care and attention (and not so much money) on an orphan like this I will tell you what I have done to make ammunition where absolutely none was available. First realize that bottleneck cartridges fire normally at 30,000 to 40,000 psi and that the guns are usually tested with specially identified "blue pill" ammunition of 70,000 psi. Scared? Good. That is as it should be. Second realize that the breach of the gun and the locking bolt take all the stress of firing. In fact the only jobs of the cartridge are to hold the primer where the firing pin can reach it and seal the place where the bolt face goes in the firing chamber. Yes you literally could manually insert a bullet in the barrel and tap it into the rifling lightly to stay, pour in the powder charge, and insert a machined brass cup with a place step-bored into it to hold the primer - close it and fire it safely with a full powder charge. The cup must have some thickness in the "corner" (seen in profile) to seal the bolt. It must extend up into the firing chamber and fit snugly so gases will get inside and "inflate" it to seal tightly. After firing it will shrink enough to be removed easily. If you followed this - you might realize our cup needs a rim for the shell-extractor hook to catch on, and the rim should fit the bolt. Many times I have sprayed WD-40 in the breach of a weapon and poured molten sulphur in after it and made a casting of the firing chamber (including a little of the barrel - up to the rifling at least) so that I could easily take dimensions off of that. Usually you only have to go this far on totally unique "one-off" rifles where someone has taken a barrel and bored a firing chamber into it, threaded it and screwed it tightly into a bolt-action. Even then almost always there can be found some existing cartridges that fit the bolt face and are LONG ENOUGH to be made into a functioning cartridge. But several times in the last 55 years there were no such cartridges to begin with.and I had to begin with solid round bar stock. In a lathe I made straight-walled versions of the cartridge I needed and then replaced the cutter-tool with a small roller-tool and (the process is called "spinning") and reduced the diameter of the front of the cartridge to form the "bottleneck" and the neck where the bullet is held. I was always careful to make the front of the cartridge a little undersize, and also make sure that when the bullet was seated the outside of the neck was smaller than the chamber at that point so that it could not "wedge" and lock the bullet in place. The "forgiving" part of this process is that firing such a round instantly "inflates" the case inside and "form fits" it to the firing chamber (provided you weren't TOO far undersize and the metal stretched and tore !) and yet it will shrink in upon itself a little and will remove easily. Realize that this can be done on a very simple lathe. It does not need power feeding or thread-cutting capability. In the old days electric motor shops had these to smooth and true motor commutator bars and they were called "speed lathes". The cutter tools can be easily made out of $2 blanks of High Speed Steel with a bench grinder and a bucket of cooling water. 3 are needed - a "left hand cutter", a narrow "parting-off" tool, and a "boring tool (inside cutter". You only need to find an old "knurling tool" and make a smooth rounded steel wheel for it to have everything you need. You are Welcome, 4nuk8r Show less
@Spearfisher1970
@Spearfisher1970 7 жыл бұрын
***** Thank you for such an informative post. I'm not sure why it isn't showing under Ian's video, but seriously, thank you.
@Spearfisher1970
@Spearfisher1970 7 жыл бұрын
***** And again, I'm seeing your reply here in the side-bar (the notification 'bell' image in the top-right of the youtube channel while I'm watching a different video), but when I bring up the Forgotten Weapons video we are both writing in, your messages aren't showing. I'm not sure if this is a setting on my end, your end, Ian's end, or KZfaq in general. You changing your e-mail may have sort of disabled part of the 4nuk8r abilities on youtube or the account, or that somebody didn't like your user name and reported it? I really have no idea, but I appreciate your response and advice.
@Lichlord
@Lichlord 7 жыл бұрын
Uruguay es el mejor país! Excited to see this video Ian. Is there a reference you could recommend to learn more about Uruguayan arms?
@mattrodda1975
@mattrodda1975 7 жыл бұрын
How do you determine if an antique gun is safe to shoot?
@daveweller9579
@daveweller9579 5 жыл бұрын
Whats the diffrence between this 6.5 and the italian manlichet 6.5?
@Hdarg
@Hdarg 7 жыл бұрын
Ian, Actually Uruguay didn't gain their independece from Argentina, the country was created as a result of the war betwen Argentina and Brazil, which started when Argentina annexed the current Uruguayan territorio. The United Kindom acted as a mediator betwen Argentina and Brazil and created Uruguay as a buffer state.
@drmaudio
@drmaudio 7 жыл бұрын
Ian, do you do much reloading? I can imagine time might be an issue, but the reproduction of unavailable cartridges (for your own use) seem the sort of thing you might enjoy.
@SlavicCelery
@SlavicCelery 7 жыл бұрын
I don't believe he does, as he referenced someone else making the ammo for him. On the plus side, further down in the comments, he referenced the parent case as 7.62x 54r. That means, reloading that case, isn't that impossible.
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