How do you see this, third DOJ lawsuit against Apple, play out?

Selling pro laptops with 8gb of base memory and charging $200 for memory upgrade is an absolute theft.

The memory upgrade price gouging needs addressing more than anything, it’s borderline criminal.

Apple about to drop a $500 million dollar donation to a special someone.

WE USED TO PRAY FOR TIMES LIKE THIS 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

after EU fighting Apple with Consumer, finally the US hops in

$200 memory upgrades is absurd.

Apple is the King of software restrictions.

Ticketmaster too please, need to be open that case again

The sideloading ban is such a copout. Imagine owning a computer and not being allowed to download stuff from the internet, unless it's on the inbuilt app store on the laptop. Apple does this to force developers into the 30% revenue split on the app store

I’m an Apple user, but I Love how all governments around the world are FINALLY attacking the monopoly! After Apple, take on Google with their Chrome browser and other stuff.

The turnaround time on this video is super impressive. Great job Alex and team!

The irony of this lawsuit ( that should have happened a long time ago.) is just how much Apple benefited from that Microsoft lawsuit.

Sue Comcast too

Apple doesn't allow the real Chrome or Firefox on the iPhone/iPad, which is crazy. Chrome uses the Chromium engine and Firefox uses the Gecko engine, but Apple won't allow them

The problem with Apple’s ecosystem isn’t that it’s seamless and vertically integrated, it’s that it’s a captive ecosystem. A massive one that now branches across most facets of people’s tech and monopolizes their options over time.

Gonna get a bucket load of popcorn for this

Ram and storage upgrade is a daylight robbery

It's about time. What took the DOJ so long?

I am gonna be very honest here…. The CLOUD GAMING issue is super BS from Apple. Xbox Gamepass needs to use the Browser to work on iOS cuz Apple has some idiotic rules over Cloud gaming. So I understand the MANY complaints against Apple. Some may be justified but others are straight up BS from Apple. I have an iPhone and iPad and they really need to low the gear on their strict rules. Like LITERALLY if the user wants to take the risk it should 100% be on the user’s decision. Not theirs.

Why now? This lawsuit is like ten years late!!

So, will they finally remove the need of a mac to develop apps for ios?

It's all comes from one word "greediness".

If android gets iMessage or compatibility with RCS, I'm dumping my 14 Pro for a Pixel 8 Pro.

This isn't about any single thing like green/blue bubbles. This is about the pattetn of hundreds anti-competitive tactics that apple uses. Hopefully this finally gets Apple to make some bigger changes and start playing more fair.

I like Apple products, but I have seen that they are really just trying for you to stay at Apple. “No don’t pay for prime video, instead pay for Apple TV+” “you don’t need google photos, just iCloud” this is less choice.

Apple’s known for years that iMessage locks users in and that texting with Android users is an awful, and sometimes, broken experience. If this forces them to fully embrace RCS then that would at least be a small step forward.

I like this short format for breaking stories! Keep them coming!

If this allows Firefox and other browsers to have their true rendering engines and add-on support like UBO in the USA, then I am all for this.

This is the last thing I expected, for the US government to sue one of its country’s companies… normally the EU sues Apple, but not the US

Call it a 'Anti-competitive' or 'innovation inspired' - love the spirit behind the motion. Every monopoly needs to be assessed and reviewed under each industry verticals every 3-5 years for potential collusion.

Are we seeing sunshine on the horizon?

This case just gave the W to Epic games who lost their cases. They lost the battle but they won the war.

They could easily get rid of the restrictions without losing the benefits of offering their users vertical integration.

As iOS dev, I hate app store fees, but they do the same thing when you want to sell stuff at walmart or any big chain store. Saying people have no choice but to pay them is wrong. You can choose to only distribute on other stores, like the Play Store. It’s not different from how some products can only be found at one store and not the other even though the store doesn’t make them. Some customers only shop at, let’s say Target, and you don’t have your goods on their shelves, that’s your choice, you won’t be able to access those people unless you pay them. Same thing happens here. What they’re saying is they want you to let other people set up their shop to sell the same stuff as you do in your sales area. If it ever happens, it should be your choice, not by law.

All monopolies need to be broken down - Apple, Amazon, Google, and Facebook.

I can’t seem to get Apple Wallet to work on my Galaxy S24.

Sue the Banks and Oil Companies

It's insane it even got halfway as far as this in the first place

So this is surely changing Friday's episode of Vergecast

Steve Jobs must be very proud.

If you don’t like it, don’t buy it… but clearly most people do…

I would have to agree with the government. iPhone 13 mini was the last iPhone I bought, or ever will buy again.

8gb ram 200$ 256gb storage 200$ That's apple inovation

Former Apple user here watching this on my Samsung Fold 5 😊

There needs to be more choices than just iPhones and Androids. A duopoly isn’t much better than a monopoly. It’s ALL duopolies.

Why should you have to pay less fees to use a platform that's generating you millions? WIthout the platform and it's users, how else would you make a sale? Develope your own platform and charge what you want. Just saying.

Finally, took them long enough. Compare Apple to Microsoft monopoly litigation... Mindblowing no one did much about it.

It’s absurd, why isn’t Microsoft being sued? we use their OS at work because there is literally no other option… THAT is a monopoly.

*Sony, Amazon, & Microsoft also take 30% cut.. this isn’t an unusual practice.*

One day I will be too a senior director of corporate communications. God I love those corporate titles. 😂

How does one create a monopoly with a product and service they developed and maintain in a market where there are clear alternatives (e.g., Android)?

Kind of a weird feeling I got from the omittance of "It would also set a dangerous precedent, empowering government to take a heavy hand in designing people's technology." I 100% agree with the idea that Apple has, in fact, created a monopoly of sorts in various ways, many of which are provided in this very video. However, it does call to question just how much power the government should have over this sort of thing. Is this truly the government protecting the people from Apple's "digital tax", or is it just the government wanting all of the "taxation" to itself? With how much the government has dropped the ball on technological issues in the past (see the entirety of the right to repair movement, it's a wonderful thing yet the government is big stupid), I hardly think the government is doing this simply to protect its people. When it comes to the government, there's always a price.

I don’t understand If people so upset with Apple why not use something else. Asus makes great windows laptops, Google and Samsung uses good phones and smart watches. There is bunch of choices outside Apple ecosystem.

What are all these 'cool apps that have been restricted on iOS but are just fine on android'?

The real fight is for access to your information… 😅

Meta needs to be sued too

It isn't a monopoly, the consumer is not locked in - even in the video it says Android is more compatible with more options (plays more video formats, has multiple wallets to choose from, etc). The Apple iPhones even cost more then the alternative Android flagship models (equivalent phones, some Androids like the Fold are of course more expensive for more tech); So there is no undercutting going on as the price is generally more for the iPhone than the equivalent Android. Seems like suing is a waste of time. People who always buy iPhone over an Android model mostly do it as that's what they like and are used to. Otherwise they can vote with their wallets and buy an Android, which means again, not a monopoly.

So what took them so long?

Yes it's two day's trying to move icloud data to google cloud and still can't complete it. No option to download a folder in i cloud web. If you have lot of files you need a Mac for that.

That 30% finally gets the karma.

Doesn’t bother me to pay an Apple tax, I know what I’m paying for and I like it. The very reason I don’t buy a low budget android phone or even a high budget Android phone for that matter. I appreciate the ecosystem and you can’t convince me otherwise. 🍎 everything.

The problem with this entire case is that Apple does NOT have a monopoly like Microsoft used to and these comparatives are just idiotic. Sure, there are things where Apple should become nicer like allowing other payment methods but this does not make it a a monopoly because it is very easy to switch to android, and in fact, Android has a far bigger market share.

I’ve seen videos talking about both sides, we’ll just have to wait and see what happens

What about Playstation and Xbox opening up and allowing side loading?

Remember when early iphones would turn off when battery charge got down to 30%? That was a software update planned attrition, was not battery issue.

No way! Finally the autorities are like it's unfair! Knowing our politician IQ and tech knowledge it ain't surprising that it took so long.

When you read apple’s response, you skipped a sentence. Purposely?? 🤔🤔

Sue em over the price of mac upgrades being 10 times more than standard parts.

Not defending Apple, but the US suing Apple for a monopoly is a terrible joke since our grid, medicine, and cable are through one supplier in over 90% of the country. But better go after the company you don’t NEED to buy a cell phone or laptop with. I just don’t see how it’s a monopoly when it’s a choice to purchase it and the market has other options. By this regard Samsung is a bigger monopoly since they make refrigerators, washers, cell phones, laptops, TVs, etc…

This is going to be very interesting!

It's interesting that I'm currently trying to decide between a new MacBook Air or a new iPad Pro. With similar specs, they're essentially the same price. There's much to love about the iPad. It's more portable and it has the pencil feature that I use occasionally. But the big problem is the closed iPad platform for software. And many of Apple's own Pro apps are crippled (dumbed down) on the iOS platform. Ironically, they're undermining their own product through a lack of choice.

This is the most absurd thing I have ever seen. Umm, they only have 25% market share or so, and you can do cloud streaming - I do it all the time. Does google let you use apple wallet on android? No. Ridiculous

I haven’t seen anything this bad since the Anita Bryant concert.

Just the pain to export photos from iCloud if want to backup or edit on another platform

How does this mean cheaper iPhones? Wouldn’t them losing revenue from the App Store lead to the opposite?

No one forces people to buy an Apple product. But the government, at least these nits, think they know whats best.

Maybe they can include a charger after this

So funny how CNET has the same quote from Apple verbatim. They just checked the "lawsuit" folder and sent out the response.

so US as a country can be anti competitive banning tiktok and huawei but Apple cant do same?

why did you read everything from the Apple comment except the line "It would also set a dangerous precedent, empowering the government to take a heavy hand in designing people's technology"? .. why not say the whole thing?

Yeah sorry, it’s not a monopoly. People choose Apple because we like the closed ecosystem, that’s why I switched. Concerning the 30% App store fee…that’s the same as other app stores. Google, Microsoft, Sony, Amazon….they all charge 30%.

You're the best Alex.

not ok

What phones are those people using?

Apple has absolutely been waiting for this moment, they are absolutely prepared I am sure

I DON’T WANT TO USE 3rd party digital wallets!!! 😡

the blue vs green bubbles is a problem only in America, because in the rest of the world we use whatsapp, even in iphones.

How can they be a monopoly when they aren’t the only phone manufacturer out there.

Apple has a monopoly on its own product line, like doesn’t that apply to every company’s product line?

Okay, but they are fine with Proctor & Gamble having a monopoly on every household cleaner we use. Probably cause they got stock in it. Made out like a bandit when Lysol was nigh impossible to obtain a few years ago…

This is nothing like internet explorer and the Netscape scandal. It’s perfect;y simple to switch to another smartphone if someone can be bothered. But most can’t.

...a day late and a dollar short... 🤑🤑🤑

Google: owns 70% market share DOJ: Apple’s a monopoly! Google: 👀

Love how she skips part of the comment Apple sent them that is probably the most important part of their message; "It would also set a dangerous precedent, empowering government to take a heavy hand in designing people's technology", if anyone has ever owned an iPhone, they know that privacy and security is the pinnacle of Apple's environment. I would hope people at least understand the value of your data to companies, and the US government wants in on your data.

Additionally, less payments for App developers getting paid yearly salary making apps for living. Wow.

They didnt sort Microsoft out though

Hmm… I don’t know where I stand regarding this ‘monopoly’ argument. Sure, freedom is good. But if you’re not happy with how Apple operates, maybe… I don’t know, don’t buy an iPhone in the first place? It’s like signing a 12 month tenancy agreement and then 2 months in complaining about the fact that you have to pay for the 12 months. Or moving into your new rental having signed the contract telling you you weren’t allowed pets, and then complaining about the fact that you’re not allowed pets a few days after. As long as you buy into Apple’s products willingly, I don’t see why you’d be complaining. If you’re unhappy, go somewhere else.

this is FAR overdue.

this video was so good that I got disappointed that didn't last longer